just blew my engine

[silverEL]

im goin on glenmore just after crowchild , before the resevoir last nite at like 1:30am
and i hear a boom, i pull over (thank god theres a merge lane from earl grey area)
and then i see steam or smoke (lifting the hood)
i lift the hood and i see oil everywhere
and i didnt wanna try and start it
so i think i need a swap

any ideas??
b18???

what are the prices??

[buh_buh]

warranty?
is your car stock?

[silverEL]

ya basically stock
ill try for warrenty i have 400km left

[buh_buh]

if you still have 400kms left i would DEFINATELY warranty.
Take advantage of it.

[silverEL]

its sitting at silverhill now, ill talk to them tommorrow

[illeagle]

shitty...
B18? sure if you have the cash...UPGRADE!!!

[silverEL]

could they just give me money towards a swap??
like give me the price of a new one so i could go get a swap??

[illeagle]

i highly doubt it.. They might even give you a hard time for your current problem..

[szw]

haha unlikely

[silverEL]

the car has 99,6xxx kms on it
so its not that old
ive had soo many problems with the car
i just wanna get rid of it

[silverEL]

so does anyone have a prognosis on the problem?

[buh_buh]

not based on what you said.
heard a boom and oil all over the place.

Based on what you said you couldve hit a barrel of oil without seeing it and just pulled over for all we know. Maybe you should try something a little more descriptive.

[hjr]

dude it your engine blew at 99k km's it had a problem. get it replaced. Engines should not do that. even cavaliers dont do that. faawk, if i was you i would be highly pissed!

[silverEL]

ok
the engine started to have a funny like vibration noise, (it sounded like a deeper version of vtec) so i kept driving and didnt think of it
and i heard a boom and saw smoke from the tail pipe in the rear mirror and pulled over and saw oil on the underbody of the hood and everywhere on the engine

[rice_eater]

well maybe you just blew your headgasket man :dunno: That's still shitty but better than the alternative :dunno:

[illeagle]

well boom is bad... then there's the oil.. were you at High RPM's? The motor died after the boom right? either way look for a hole in your block and ask, why you do this to me timmy?,, why?...

[illeagle]

no, a blown head gasket will have white smoke, and a shitty running car... no oil puking.. Your timing belt probably snapped sending your internals into each other...

[GT2NV]

Originally posted by buh_buh

Based on what you said you couldve hit a barrel of oil without seeing it and just pulled over for all we know. :rofl: :rofl:

[rice_eater]

Originally posted by illeagle
no, a blown head gasket will have white smoke, and a shitty running car... no oil puking.. Your timing belt probably snapped sending your internals into each other...

EDIT: internals smacking and timing belt wouldn't do that

[buh_buh]

yeah a headgasket would involve a lot of coolant everywhere too.

[5.9 R/T]

Originally posted by illeagle
no, a blown head gasket will have white smoke, and a shitty running car... no oil puking.. Your timing belt probably snapped sending your internals into each other...

I'm pretty sure the 1.6 or the new 1.7's which ever version EL he had were non interference engines. There's any number of possibilites, but a head gasket or timing belt failure are probably not one of them.

[silverEL]

but oil being spit out everywhere?????
everything else looked fine

[rice_eater]

Originally posted by buh_buh
yeah a headgasket would involve a lot of coolant everywhere too.

figured that could be making the steam and the smoke from the oil...oh well :dunno:

[rice_eater]

Originally posted by silverEL
but oil being spit out everywhere?????
everything else looked fine
tell us more about how you were driving the car at the time :nut:

[silverEL]

i was driving at like 100km/h - jammin to the Eagles
shifting into third
and BOOOM

[finboy]

Originally posted by rice_eater


wow :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: don't talk anymore what would be incorect about that statement?

headgasket failure would lead to running like a bag and white smoke (coolant burning off).

if it was an interferance engine internals would colide.

[silverEL]

BTW its a 1.6 sohc vtec

[rice_eater]

Originally posted by finboy
what would be incorect about that statement?

headgasket failure would lead to running like a bag and white smoke (coolant burning off).

if it was an interferance engine internals would colide.

it was more an inference to the internals coliding...

[silverEL]

anyone wanna take it to msn
mine is :
[email protected]

[finboy]

Originally posted by rice_eater


it was more an inference to the internals coliding...

without more info given, internal colission could have been a viable option.

with oil all over the engine bay, nuked head gasket probably wouldn't be the issue either ;)

my guess, cracked piston, massive blow bye, oil coming out of the pcv system and dipstick tube, etc.

[SpoonEK9@STRD]

Originally posted by silverEL
i was driving at like 100km/h - jammin to the Eagles
shifting into third
and BOOOM

from what gear? lol

[silverEL]

from sorry out of third to forth

[silverEL]

i guess we will see what silverhill says
and go from there
thanx guys

[R-Audi]

Originally posted by buh_buh
.Based on what you said you couldve hit a barrel of oil without seeing it and just pulled over for all we know. Maybe you should try something a little more descriptive.

Owned! Hopefully this works out better then the tranny problem little bro!!
Or you could talk M&D into gettng my car....


:rolleyes:

[Seanith]

yeah tell us more. were you bouncing off the rev limiter or something? let us know what happened :nut:

oh and the dealership will DEFINITELY not give you credit for a new engine.. who knows they might allow you to "upgrade" to a b18 if you front up teh cash though. Giving you money for the engine would take away from their discount they could get the engine for. Like they'll say your engine is like $4000 to fix, but it will cost them $1500 or something right?

[angierideswitme]

doesn't matter exavtly what happend, but BOOM, oil all over and car dies, Always means New Motor, lol:banghead: :banghead:

could of blown a rod too. busting a hole in the block!

[rice_eater]

Originally posted by finboy


without more info given, internal colission could have been a viable option.




i dont know man... i just had my timing belt fly off a few months ago and i remember how the engine just stopped and that's it. Then when i ripped the engine apart in my garage the only damage was bent valves and little nicks in the pistons (read nothing like in this situation) But let's just drop it and help the guy out instead :)

[88CRX]

Originally posted by angierideswitme
doesn't matter exavtly what happend, but BOOM, oil all over and car dies, Always means New Motor, lol:banghead: :banghead:

could of blown a rod too. busting a hole in the block!

boom does not equal a new engine :thumbsdow

[angierideswitme]

in this situation it does.:D

[silverEL]

Originally posted by R-Audi


Owned! Hopefully this works out better then the tranny problem little bro!!
Or you could talk M&D into gettng my car....


:rolleyes:

i do like red cars :rolleyes:

[illeagle]

Well, hopefully Silverhill is filled with nice, monday morning people.. Is there a chance they'll make you pay for something? like a service fee? :dunno:
Good luck!... let us know how it goes:thumbsup:

[silverEL]

i hope not
i dont have any cash


ill post what silverhill says
(100% BULLSHIT) as always

[88CRX]

Originally posted by silverEL
i hope not
i dont have any cash


ill post what silverhill says
(100% BULLSHIT) as always

you know there gonna try and fuck you over :nut:

good luck :D

[illeagle]

I've never delt with them.. they do give alot of cars to us for repairs though. (A-1 autobody) I'm not sure about mechanical..
but we get the cars people smash during test drives.. And the RSX type S that had the front clip smashed off by a 18 wheeler, while pulling out of silverhill's lot. Guy JUST bought it and is leaving for the first time.. haha.. luck strikes silverhill customers again..

[silverEL]

the service sucks ass too
ill never buy another acura again

[illeagle]

yah Acura's suck, get a honda... hehe j/k

[silverEL]

lol er not

[illeagle]

clear out your PM box...

[silverEL]

done

[core_upt]

Todd, if it happened just before 100,000KM it could very well be realted to your timing belt. I snapped the second belt in my CRX at 200,400KM while driving at around 60KM/H and the engine was turning fast enough to smash the first and third cylinder pistons into the valves above them. If you were going 100KM/H it could very well have blown out the block (its an aluminum block is it not??)

In any event, your warranty should cover it. Best of luck, if not, get your bro's car and sell me your engineless 1.6 dirt cheap so I can upgrade my winter beater!!

[xkon]

get a new one, ill swap it in for you :D

seriously, its a non interference engine, and oil everwhere is a baaad sign... what was the noise like? did you hear parts coming loose?

[Mahk Uno]

SOUNDS awful similar to my little event a month ago...for me its a connecting rod through my oil pan...but yeah the just about shift then boom sounds like mine....did you feel a rattleing on or hear a rattleing coming from your engine before hand...plus try and start your car if it does then you havent blown your timing.

[rice_eater]

or he could just look at the belt :angel:

[t3rry]

first thing you should do is pick the piston up off the ground from under your car... then buy a chevy :D

[ZorroAMG]

Why? so he can have an even worse experience?

[silverEL]

i blew the rod out the engine
so im now looking for a swap
what would be the easiest swap to do??
b18? or what

[gpomp]

Why don't you have them fix it with warranty?

[silverEL]

apparently its not covered on warrenty:dunno:

[t3rry]

the nitrous kit probably voided the warrenty :dunno: :dunno:

[2000impreza]

what was their reason? if your car is stock they would have to have a pretty good reason to not cover that.

[silverEL]

they said that ware and tear is not covered on warrenty, and that it was my fault due to over revving??? but i wasnt bagging on it when i blew it :dunno:

[silverEL]

Originally posted by t3rry
the nitrous kit probably voided the warrenty :dunno: :dunno:
good call except my car is basically stock (intake, exhaust)
but ya, thanx for the useless post

[buh_buh]

if you werent bagging on it then you should try to fight it.
They're obviously trying to squirm their way out of a warranty fix.

[rage2]

If all you've modded is an intake and exhaust, there is no reason for them to void your warranty. Hell, even if dust got in their because of the intake won't snap a rod.

Did you ask them WHY the warranty wasn't covering an engine failure?

[ryder_23]

I'd get someone to try and help you with this, cause like buh_buh said, theyre just trying to get you to admit to something, so they dont have to pay for repairs for it...were you overreving it?

[2000impreza]

a busted rod isn't your average "wear and tear". obviously there was something that caused the rod to break. if they refuse you warranty you may want to seek some legal advice.

[silverEL]

no i was shifting from 3rd to 4th goin like 100km/h
so i wasnt revving high at all
they said i was over revving it or i missed a downshift
like 5th-2nd
which i didnt

[buh_buh]

so go and argue.
This could cost you either $0 or it could cost you like $2g+

[rc2002]

What does your ECU say? It will usually tell what speed the engine was moving at before it blew. Some guy on here blew his si-R and the dealer found out that it revved to something ridiculous like 14000rpm.

[Mahk Uno]

i knew it was a con rod.....all you can do now is watch your car bleed lol...make sure your oil distribution is ok cause they could screw with something while your not looking and blame the blow on lack of lube or some gay ass shit like that...but seriously for me to blow mine i was at like 9000 rpm fully opened up, and my rods are drag ready and tough as hell, so i can see how your motor could have blown....just wondering, do you redline every gear every time you shift a gear, if so that would have a hand in your problem as well what is your compression ratio maybe you just somehow packed to much punch for your car to handle.

[88CRX]

holy fuckn' pushover.... so what happened... they told you it wasnt covered under warantee an you replied "ok" and left :dunno:


make a fuckin scene and tell them there fixing it.

[Mahk Uno]

Just curious...im not to crazidly inclined when it comes to imports but as for the dealer telling you that you missed a shifty from 5 to 2 i think thats shit...cause i drive my aunts honda lots and when im going for a down shift from 5 and try and put it into 2 it wont let me until the speed comes down same with reverse it will not allow the shifter into the gear period...just wondering if this would be the same for you as well as others a "safety device" to prevent missed gears like that.

[jdmsource]

Originally posted by 88CRX
holy fuckn' pushover.... so what happened... they told you it wasnt covered under warantee an you replied "ok" and left :dunno:


make a fuckin scene and tell them there fixing it. :werd: :werd: :werd:

[Weapon_R]

I've never heard of a Honda engine that blew with under 100k, so fight this and don't leave until you get the right answer. Better yet, take someone with you because it sounds as though they aren't taking you seriously.

[t3rry]

ALERT THE MEDIA!!!!




no seriously, call the sun, the herals all the news channels and the BBB, that'll get yer car fixed right quick... the news will just eat your story up if they're refusing to repair a it even thoiught it is under warrenty.

[buh_buh]

like the newspaper would give a shit if you blew your motor.
If it was a case of blatant bad business on their part (ie they were the ones that blew your engine up and refused to fix it) then maybe the newspapers would even think twice about giving you any coverage.
The truth is this happens all the time. You just gotta bitch until you get your way otherwise they'll just scam you.

[Hakkola]

:werd:

Get a Lawyer, or someone knowledgeable to come with you when you complain.

[Khyron]

Stomp around and make THEM prove you missed a shift or whatever. It's part of the powertrain - don't let them bully you.

100K kms is only like 60K miles - that's a baby in Honda terms.

But if you want to be a wimp and just roll over, then so be it.

But even if you are doing a swap, get them to replace the engine then sell the car or sell the new engine and get your swap.

Khyron

[AutodreamMarvin]

I know the d16y8's had bad rod bearings.
The noise you were speaking of, did it sound more like knock knock?

Oh yeah, all Honda engines(that I know of anyway, including this one) is an interference design. But I highly doubt that a timing belt snapping will spill a rod out of the block. if anything, it'll probably bend the valve to shit. valve vs. piston, the valve always loses.

[illeagle]

FUCK!!! I knew they would do that to you...I doubt Silvehill would say that if you were 60 years old... GET A LAWER, or at least seek leagal advise.. Better buisness burough? (fuck my eyes are dry and i can't spell) Man, try to speak to the sales rep Manager... That's bullshit... if you know you weren't doing anything damaging to the motor AT THE TIME, fight it...

Or drop thousands for a new motor, ECU, Trans, CV axles, Mounts, labor, and More gas!!! ...$3,000+?
But if you have to get a new motor, go B18..

[sputnik]

"here is a chunk of block... heres another chunk of block..."

hopefully everything gets worked out...

[roopi]

Definately not wear and tear. Take your ass back there and this time don't say 'OK' it was my fault.

Did you try calling Honda/Acura Canada or whatever they are called to see if this falls under warranty?

[rage2]

Either you're a pushover, or there's something you're not telling us...

I can't see a warranty denial here in this case.

[Redlyne_mr2]

It's not like the dealer looses money on warranty anyways, it's an extra job for them, so there's not much reason for them to deny you unless theres a something that was an obvious fault on your part

[Khyron]

Did you maybe over-rev it before it blew? Like last week, or last month?

Khyron