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Abeo
09-13-2012, 11:57 AM
Aside from the usual tirebob, costco, tirerack and discounttiredirect... I'm wondering if there are other places to get tires. I'm not up to speed on 4wd suppliers here.

I am looking for 32/11.5R15 tires, that are good at McLean but also good on the highway (but more aggressive than BFG A/T's). Goodyear MTR's seem interesting, but are on backorder everywhere and are pretty pricey locally.

WBB6
09-13-2012, 01:42 PM
feel free to give us a shout. we have great pricing on tires, we are also a Toyo Tires dealer!

[email protected]

Boosted131
09-13-2012, 10:51 PM
I have 31 inch bfg all terrain ko on my zr2 and they do good at McLean

CelicaST-162
09-13-2012, 11:01 PM
What kind of driving do you do? A lot of highway? A little bit of off roading? Is it going to be used all season?

One tire is always going to be better than the other in one aspect to another. Here's a few examples of the tires I have experienced...

AT BFG T/A KO: Good on road, slightly noisy, performs well off road in dry areas. Mud, not so much. Tread voids fill with mud fast.

In Between: A lot of guys I know run this, I run it myself:Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac- Great AT/MT Hybrid, tight center tread section simillar to AT Characteristics, and a MT like outer tread pattern. Snowflake rating. This tire out performs BFG T/A KO in every aspect, quiet as well on the highway!

MT: Goodyear Wrangler MT/R w/Kevlar, A truly epic tire. I run this for summer, and when aired down to 10 psi. It's an absolute weapon is how I can describe it! Anywhere I would have to engage the ARB Air Locker with the Duratrac...MT/R would crawl it w/o locker. Cons, not an ideal tire for icey winter driving...Little to no siping!

Abeo
09-14-2012, 12:14 AM
The truck is going to have dedicated studded winters, so I think I can go more aggressive on the summer tires.

Truck is going to be wheeled fairly often, and there is a trip being planned to MOAB next year... but its going to be my daily driver, and you can't avoid highways around here. Truck will be driven to the mountains for camping, hiking, biking, dirt biking, etc.

I've had BFG AT's before, and liked them till I got in mud. They rode pretty rough too. I have Toyo AT's on my other truck, and they are great on the street and dirt, but don't do well when it gets soft. Toyo MT's look neat, but aren't available in 32 inch sizes (neither is the duratrac). I have an idea of what sort of tire I want, its more of where to buy...

Offroad
09-14-2012, 12:33 AM
I recommend the Goodyear MTR's.....had them on my Suburban and worked awesome. Also got my sister to get them on her Tahoe so far great she reports.

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HuMz
09-14-2012, 04:47 AM
Just out of curosity why none of the 3 above when they are probably gonna be your best deal.

Im running bfg m/t km2 which are alright on the road but they get a bit loud at low speeds.

Masked Bandit
09-14-2012, 07:54 AM
All the Fountain Tire places should be running their 4 for 3 sales starting next week I think. That should help with the pricing for Goodyear stuff.

SKR
09-14-2012, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by HuMz
Im running bfg m/t km2 which are alright on the road but they get a bit loud at low speeds.

I'll put in another vote for KM2s. I have ran them year round with no problems. They're probably not as loud as some of the other mud terrain tires. Definitely not as loud as the Intercos I'm running now.

I can't tell you how much I don't like the AT KO's. Of all the tires I've ever had on my trucks, aside from the stockers they come with, they've been the worst as far as off-highway performance goes. I can see where they would probably be good in dry sand, but that's the only situation where I haven't seen them outperformed by any other mud terrain.

r3ccOs
09-14-2012, 08:12 AM
if you're doing a mix of driving/wheeling... the BFG AT & the Grabber AT2 are great, especially for winter

I had MTRs and they are awesome in deep anything, better than other MTs on the road (like mud rovers or interco) but still not great on icy winter conditions

I have used my buddy's hunting trucks, which have the Cooper S/T's on them and I really like them for those off/road winter conditions

Icy rocks, driving in deep brush with lots of snow, they're perfect

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Cos
09-14-2012, 08:15 AM
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Abeo
09-14-2012, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by HuMz
Just out of curosity why none of the 3 above when they are probably gonna be your best deal.

Im running bfg m/t km2 which are alright on the road but they get a bit loud at low speeds.

BFG A/T's: Want something that does better in mud
Duratrac: don't make them in 32's (otherwise I'd look harder at them)
MTR's: on the short list, looking for other options before I decide

Cooper SST's also kind of fit the bill, but my perception of Cooper comes from when they were a garbage cheapo tire.

Hankook dynapro MT's have good reviews and seem inexpensive



Originally posted by Masked Bandit
All the Fountain Tire places should be running their 4 for 3 sales starting next week I think. That should help with the pricing for Goodyear stuff.

"Buy Four Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor, Assurance Tripletred All-Season Or Ultra Grip Ice WRT Tires For The Price Of Three From September 17 - October 13, 2012. "
Neither the duratracs or the MTR's are listed. I should drop in to see if they will be doing anything with the MTR's

CelicaST-162
09-14-2012, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Cos


How was the noise on the MT/R's. I was asking on albertaoffroad and that and the NEW Toyo AT2's are the only two tires that were recommended to me.

Probably going to pick them up come spring.

The noise is quite minimal for such an agressive-sick tread pattern I was quite impressed with! However, you do hear a slight hum but it's negligable!

Cos
09-14-2012, 10:40 AM
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Abeo
09-14-2012, 07:16 PM
Huge brainfart by me. For whatever reason, I didn't consider that I could upsize the rim diameter when buying tires and rims. 265/75R16 has way more selection than 32x11.5R15, downside is that its an effective 10.5" section.

So now duratracs and Toyo MT's are back in consideration, along with the MTR's

Cos: I'm surprised to hear that, are the Toyo's really that bad?

HuMz
09-14-2012, 07:24 PM
Hankook dynapro's are great for the price. Something you may want to consider, Discount tire offers free shipping in the US. Add $80 bucks in taxes and a storage fee + $80 bucks in gas and its probably cheaper then anything you will find in the city or shipped to your door.

FraserB
09-14-2012, 07:27 PM
Any mud tire is going to get louder as they wear down. Cos's are about the point where they get nice and loud driving around.

Take a look at the Nitto Terra Grappler or Trail Grappler, probably going to run one of those next. I'll never run a Duratrac on something that gets offroaded just because of the flimsy sidewalls.

syritis
09-14-2012, 07:54 PM
I buy from 1010tires, picked up some duratrac's. happy with their performance but they are a little louder than i expected for an AT tire. i'm looking forward to how they do in winter.

I was looking into the grapplers as well. turns out they are amazingly bad in wet weather. kinda scary thought for our climate however i know guys that trail ride with them in summer without issue.

big A
09-14-2012, 08:04 PM
I had bf goodrich km2s and toyo open country on two seperate vehicles that I owned at the same time and I by far liked the Toyos better for traction on the trails and in the winter.

nixon45
09-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by WBB6
feel free to give us a shout. we have great pricing on tires, we are also a Toyo Tires dealer!

[email protected]

Do you guys stock Nitto tires by any chance?

I have been looking for a set of Trail Grapplers

Cos
09-14-2012, 09:47 PM
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CelicaST-162
09-14-2012, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by FraserB
Any mud tire is going to get louder as they wear down. Cos's are about the point where they get nice and loud driving around.

Take a look at the Nitto Terra Grappler or Trail Grappler, probably going to run one of those next. I'll never run a Duratrac on something that gets offroaded just because of the flimsy sidewalls.

The Duratrac could have a better sidewall I whole heartedly agree. With that being said, I would not hesitate to use them with confidence off road. I ran them for 1.5 years, and they offered outstanding traction. Assuming you're running the Trail Grappler on your ZJ... Cool. Terra Grappler on your ZJ? That'll be a severe downgrade IMO. Terra Grapper is not even an AT Tire IMO, just a slightly more agressive street tire. The Duratrac is almost like any tire, the sidewall is just as vulnerable to any tire! When you're wheelin' anything can happen so be prepared for it. I will be rocking the Duratrac's again this winter, the guys in MT's don't stand a chance against these tires on the slick hills on the Waiparous winter trails.

WBB6
09-15-2012, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by nixon45


Do you guys stock Nitto tires by any chance?

I have been looking for a set of Trail Grapplers

Yes we do!

email us your inquiry and we will get you pricing: [email protected]

nixon45
09-15-2012, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by WBB6


Yes we do!

email us your inquiry and we will get you pricing: [email protected]

Thank you.

Email sent!

jonnycat
09-18-2012, 08:37 AM
I thought Kal Tire was the sole supplier of Nitto's? (in Canada)

I bought some Trail Grapplers for my Titan. They are great on everything other than ice. On Ice, you need to be careful, but they have made it through 2 winters now.

Alak
09-18-2012, 10:40 AM
We ran Duratracs on our service trucks (GVW Loaded 1 Ton's) and they worked well. The tread wear on a truck that heavy left alot to be desired. We've since switched two of our trucks over to one a BFG T/A (which I swear by except in thick mud) and Nitto something (the tread looks like the duratracs). We are looking to see how the treadwear does. Noise levels are hard to tell as the truck is generally noisy anyways (2011 F-350).

I run BFG MT KM2's on my truck and I love the aggressive look, and I have no complaints with traction (they are siped for winter as well). Currently has 35x12.50's on it. They HOWL going down the highway. I can hear the tires over the engine, and 6.0L's are probably the loudest diesel out there.

In the spring when Im looking for replacement tires, I MAY be looking at the new BFG Rugged Trail T/A. Kind of a duratrac style tire. They say it provides excellent traction and its quiet.

I hope they have them in 37's or 38's!

SKR
09-18-2012, 09:22 PM
It looks like they may have changed the tread pattern on the Rugged Trails, but the ones that came stock on my 05 and 11 Dodges were not anything close to what I'd call "excellent traction". I got stuck once on level ground, on wet grass.

I'm surprised that the BFG AT's are getting any respect in this thread. I have ran, in the last 8 years:

- Whatever all season came stock on 2004 Chevy half tons, probably Bridgestones (265/70R17)
- BFG Rugged Trail (265/70R17 - Stock 2005 Dodge 2500)
- BFG All Terrain (265/75R16 - 2005 GMC 2500)
- Toyo M55 (265/75R16 - 2005 GMC 2500)
- Goodyear MTR (305/70R17 - 2005 Dodge 2500)
- Cooper STT (33/12.50R17 - 2008 Ford F-250)
- Cooper ST (33/12.50R17 - 2008 Ford F-250)
- BFG Mud Terrain KM2 (305/65R17 - 2008 Ford F-250)
- BFG All Terrain (285/65R18 - 2008 Ford F-350)
- Nitto Trail Grappler (305/65R18 - 2008 Ford F-350)
- Interco TrXus STS (33/12.50R17 - 2005 Dodge 2500)
- Bridgestone M700 (265/70R17 - Stock 2010 GMC 2500)
- BFG All Terrain (305/65R17 - 2008 GMC 2500)
- BFG Mud Terrain KM2 (305/65R17 - 2008 GMC 2500)
- Toyo MT (35/12.50R20 - 2010 GMC 2500)
- BFG Rugged Trail (265/70R17 - Stock 2011 Dodge 2500)
- BFG Mud Terrain KM2 (305/70R17 - 2011 Dodge 2500)
- Interco SS-M16 (33/10.50R17 - 2011 Dodge 2500)

In chronological order. Not bad, hey? Too bad it doesn't impress the women.

Other than the stocker Bridgestones and BFG Rugged Trails, every tire on that list has outperformed the BFG All Terrains in mud, gravel, and snow, and none are any worse on ice or wet pavement. I wish I could remember the total mileage I put on all those tires. It's probably 300,000+km, and not once have I either been happy I had them, or wished that I had them. They might be better on pure dirt or sand, but I might give that to the Intercos. Whether the BFGs are better than the TrXus' or not, they're not good enough that I'd put up with poor performance everywhere else.

The Toyo M55s were insanely loud, but wore like iron. Rode like it, too. The MTR's were awesome. The Coopers wore funny and didn't last very long. The Nittos were really squirmy, to the point where it felt like the lug nuts were missing. The TrXus STSs were the best of the bunch on dirt and sand, but were loud, awful in mud and snow, and would go square overnight. The Toyo MTs haven't really seen anything other than dry pavement and gravel. The newest ones, the M16s, are loud and squirmy, but look mean as hell aside from how skinny they are. I shouldn't have went 10.5 wide.

Overall, I've found the BFG KM2s to be the best. They chew through mud and snow, they don't throw rocks, they don't get shredded by gravel, they drive good, they don't squirm or go square, they wear good, and for a mud terrain they're not too noisy (in the 33-ish inch sizes I've tried so far). The only reason I didn't get another set on my '11 Dodge is I wanted to try the M16s.

HuMz
09-18-2012, 09:41 PM
How were the km2's for winter driving? I have a set of wrangler territories I was gonna put on for the winter (Canadian tire version of duratrac) only because I figured my km2's would struggle with any kind of ice.

SKR
09-18-2012, 11:46 PM
I've gone 2 winters with them. I almost always drive in 4x4 in town and I manage. I'm not Ken Blocking around town, but I can get around without much drama. I did have the Cooper STs studded for one winter. They worked perfect. I'm sure you could do better than KM2s in the winter, but they're not bad. At -30 I think most tires are going to turn into rocks anyway.

heavyfuel
09-19-2012, 04:15 PM
Hands down, Urban X South.

09-24-2012, 10:43 AM
New Toyo A/T II out in the wild! Amazing grip, wear, longevity and toughness out of this tire. Canadian warehouses will start shipping certain sizes Dec/Jan.

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FraserB
09-24-2012, 10:54 AM
Got sizes and price for those yet?:drool:

Boosted131
10-01-2012, 09:20 PM
How are the general grabber at2's?

Cos
10-01-2012, 10:04 PM
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FraserB
10-01-2012, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Cos


No, I emailed J for prices today. He did say it shouldnt be much different than the current AT though.

Looks like they ship just in time for a set to find their way onto a truck lol.

MacgyverWelds
11-16-2012, 02:37 PM
I just picked up a set of those new Toyo Open Country AT-2, sized 305/50R22 from Gary @ Urban X South. Got a better price than 1010tire as well once shipping and install were factored in.

Really impressed with them so far, got through last weeks dump of snow without touching the 4WD selector. They look pretty bad ass too. Much more aggressive than the original OC A/T.

Considered the Grabber AT2 as well, because it's Mountain/ Snowflake rated, but happy I went with the Toyos.

Abeo
11-16-2012, 03:04 PM
I suppose I should update this thread

I was about to place an order for MT/R's when I had a tire go on me (belt shifted), and needed tires in a hurry. Got a set of Hankook Dynapro MT's from Tirebob.

I was/am kind of disappointed that I didn't get the MT/R's, but I've been thrilled with the performance of the Dynapros.

Cos
11-16-2012, 04:03 PM
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MacgyverWelds
11-16-2012, 04:16 PM
I don't find them much noiser than the Pirelli's that came on the truck, I drive about 1,500 kms a week so if they were bad I'd notice.

Much better than the Nitto's I had on my 3500 Laramie or the Rover's from my 350 King Ranch

MacgyverWelds
11-16-2012, 04:17 PM
Here's one

MacgyverWelds
11-16-2012, 04:19 PM
Close up

They're obviously not as meaty as the Toyo MT, but that's the whole point, I wanted a hybrid tire, MT's don't do so well on ice

MacgyverWelds
11-16-2012, 04:30 PM
Here's one in the snow

nagooro
12-06-2012, 12:48 AM
Any recommendations for winter tires that will see a lot of highway driving?

I work up north on the rigs and my current tires aren't working out that well so looking to pick up some winters.

I drive a 2011 ford f150.

Cos
12-06-2012, 10:06 AM
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ExtraSlow
12-06-2012, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by nagooro
Any recommendations for winter tires that will see a lot of highway driving?

I work up north on the rigs and my current tires aren't working out that well so looking to pick up some winters.

I drive a 2011 ford f150.
I run the Goodyear Wrngler SilentArmor and I thnk it's great for winter highway driving.

If it was for 100% winter duty, I'd get the Duratraks and stud them, but I run mine year round, and I didn't want studs.

I have heard good things about the Revo2's, but never used them.

WBB6
12-06-2012, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by nagooro
Any recommendations for winter tires that will see a lot of highway driving?

I work up north on the rigs and my current tires aren't working out that well so looking to pick up some winters.

I drive a 2011 ford f150.

we can help you out!

email us and we will forward you pricing: [email protected]

MacgyverWelds
12-06-2012, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Cos
Wicked thanks boss! I like them.

About a month in to them now, extremely happy with them so far, almost forgot where my 4x4 selector is. :)

Nagooro - Looking for a dedicated winter tire? I think Nokian has one, I know they have an "SUV" Haakapelitta for the Expedition Max with 20's, I don't know about the load rating but the Expedition is a pretty heavy vehicle itself. Somebody with more tire knowledge might be able to say otherwise.

Abeo
12-07-2012, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by nagooro
Any recommendations for winter tires that will see a lot of highway driving?

I work up north on the rigs and my current tires aren't working out that well so looking to pick up some winters.

I drive a 2011 ford f150.

I have some studded Hankook RW11's on my truck, they work well on ice and hardpack. You don't hear the studs at highway speeds. So far, I'm happy with them.

heavyfuel
12-07-2012, 08:20 AM
I used to bolt down a 500lb steel plate in the box of my Dodge each winter. Ever since I switched to Pro-Comp Xtreme AT's I haven't had to use any extra weight in the back despite almost 900ft lbs of torque. I've tried Toyos, BFG's, Hankooks, Nothing comes close to these for bigger vehicles.