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flipstah
09-30-2013, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


Probably. Keep in mind that "fill power" only measures how much down it takes to fill a given volume, it's not a measure of warmth. In general, high loft/thickness = warm jacket, high fill power = light jacket. 625 fill is typical for a mid-quality duck down, but as long as the jacket has thick down chambers you're in good shape. I've made gear using 700FP duck down before and it's excellent if you don't have a need for the $$$ high-fill goose down.

That's great advice. I've only naively looked at the numbers and went '800 down. That's good' until I read your post.

Turns out the ones I've been looking at are FP so I'll be more attentive to the design now.

I've come between two jackets:

http://www.golite.com/Mens-Demaree-800-Fill-Down-Hooded-Jacket-P47036.aspx

GoLite in Smoke

http://www.patagonia.com/ca/product/mens-wanaka-down-jacket?p=28471-0-961

Patagonia in Grey

Leaning towards the GoLite because of the unbeatable price but let's see how the fitting goes.

Thanks for the help! :thumbsup:

aln
09-30-2013, 02:35 PM
the cg lodge hoody isn't warm enough when its -30. you'll need to layer with a long sleeve and sweater. i have the one in black and on the cg website, it only states 0/-15. just a heads up!

BerserkerCatSplat
09-30-2013, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by flipstah


That's great advice. I've only naively looked at the numbers and went '800 down. That's good' until I read your post.

Turns out the ones I've been looking at are FP so I'll be more attentive to the design now.

I've come between two jackets:

http://www.golite.com/Mens-Demaree-800-Fill-Down-Hooded-Jacket-P47036.aspx

GoLite in Smoke

http://www.patagonia.com/ca/product/mens-wanaka-down-jacket?p=28471-0-961

Patagonia in Grey

Leaning towards the GoLite because of the unbeatable price but let's see how the fitting goes.

Thanks for the help! :thumbsup:



Glad to help! While you're at GoLite, check out the Bitterroot - it's more $$$ but it's got the Quantam GL fabric and water-resistant down.

Tram Common
09-30-2013, 05:25 PM
I still laugh at people who sport Canada Goose in Calgary... maybe that's just me, though.

... the only jackets they make that are remotely worth the amount of coin they charge for them are the arctic program collection jackets...

... and the only city you'll get away with wearing those in on a regular basis is Whitehorse or Yellowknife... even then...

:nut:

Sugarphreak
09-30-2013, 06:40 PM
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xnvy
09-30-2013, 08:44 PM
I'm in the market for a jacket. Nothing too expensive as I'm on a student budget. Priority-wise I'm most interested in warmth, followed by (lack of) bulk, and then style. The jacket will be used everyday from now until spring.

I really like the 800-fill GoLite that Flipstah posted, I like it's pricetag even more. My question is, would that jacket be warm enough for 30 minutes of standing at a bus stop in -30 with only a dress shirt and sweater for layering? 30 minutes being the longest I've ever had to wait for the bus.

Also, what type of sizing would you guys recommend? My chest size is 31-32 but seeing as I'll have a couple layers underneath I'm thinking a 34 is best? Apologies for my noobish questions. All help is appreciated! :D

flipstah
10-01-2013, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by xnvy
I'm in the market for a jacket. Nothing too expensive as I'm on a student budget. Priority-wise I'm most interested in warmth, followed by (lack of) bulk, and then style. The jacket will be used everyday from now until spring.

I really like the 800-fill GoLite that Flipstah posted, I like it's pricetag even more. My question is, would that jacket be warm enough for 30 minutes of standing at a bus stop in -30 with only a dress shirt and sweater for layering? 30 minutes being the longest I've ever had to wait for the bus.

Also, what type of sizing would you guys recommend? My chest size is 31-32 but seeing as I'll have a couple layers underneath I'm thinking a 34 is best? Apologies for my noobish questions. All help is appreciated! :D

Theoretically, it should be the warmest jacket to have because of the fill power.


Down Fill Powers
Fill power is perhaps the most commonly misunderstood thing when choosing a down jacket. Usually a manufacturer will advertise a “fill power” of 650, 700, 850 etc. These numbers are a reference to the quality of the down insulation used. The number is actually a volume – the amount of cubic inches one ounce of down occupies. For example, one ounce of 800 fill power down will occupy 800 cubic inches when compressed by a standardized weight. If you use two ounces of 800 fill on jacket A, and two ounces of 700 fill on jacket B, jacket A –with the 800 fill down - will be warmer because it has more loft. However, a jacket may have eight ounces of 850 fill down and yet be of similar warmth to a jacket with twelve ounces of 650 fill down. The jacket featuring 850 fill down has similar warmth but will weigh less, and be more compressible, since it has less down in it. In other words, higher fill power down allows for better warmth-to-weight ratios.

http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Down-Jacket-Reviews/buying-advice

Sizing is different for all jackets. GoLite looks to be slim-fit but have no idea since I have to try them on yet.

Tram Common
10-01-2013, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by xnvy
I'm in the market for a jacket. Nothing too expensive as I'm on a student budget. Priority-wise I'm most interested in warmth, followed by (lack of) bulk, and then style. The jacket will be used everyday from now until spring.

I really like the 800-fill GoLite that Flipstah posted, I like it's pricetag even more. My question is, would that jacket be warm enough for 30 minutes of standing at a bus stop in -30 with only a dress shirt and sweater for layering? 30 minutes being the longest I've ever had to wait for the bus.

Also, what type of sizing would you guys recommend? My chest size is 31-32 but seeing as I'll have a couple layers underneath I'm thinking a 34 is best? Apologies for my noobish questions. All help is appreciated! :D

Go to MEC and look and talk to a rep. about what they have on-sale in winter jackets.

Contrary to what most weekend warriors on Beyond will tell you... you do live in Calgary, not Yellowknife... there's no need for extreme winter wear. On those rare colder days where it does dip to -30 degrees, put on an extra layer... don't waste your money buying something that will be super effective for that one colder week and overkill the rest of winter.

I'd even recommend The Bay... I was given a cheap HBC winter jacket as a souvenir for an event I covered one winter. I would wear it whenever it was -30 degrees out and with proper layering it was toasty as hell.

xnvy
10-01-2013, 09:42 PM
^Completely forgot about MEC! I bought my backpack from there an it's one of the best purchases I've ever made so I'm sure they will have something nice. Hopefully I'll get to check 'em out this weekend.

Thanks for all the suggestions Beyond.

msommers
10-01-2013, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Tram Common


Go to MEC and look and talk to a rep. about what they have on-sale in winter jackets.

Contrary to what most weekend warriors on Beyond will tell you... you do live in Calgary, not Yellowknife... there's no need for extreme winter wear. On those rare colder days where it does dip to -30 degrees, put on an extra layer... don't waste your money buying something that will be super effective for that one colder week and overkill the rest of winter.

I'd even recommend The Bay... I was given a cheap HBC winter jacket as a souvenir for an event I covered one winter. I would wear it whenever it was -30 degrees out and with proper layering it was toasty as hell.

While I won't disagree with the rare/few -30 days, most of the time it's at least -15 or colder with the windchill, even colder in the mornings with no sun out yet. I remember waiting for the bus during school and fuck, it sucked. Then you get to school and have to take off so many layers, got old quick. Unless you're walking to work, it's pretty hard to be standing outside and be too warm. I did end up sweating my balls off once I was on the bus though :rofl: Call me spoiled or whatever, but layering going to work or school is a giant pain in the ass. Going to the mountains is a completely different story.

My biggest advice is honestly to get a sweet pair of mittens, a nice scarf and some warm shoes or wear some wigwam/equivalent hiking socks. I never really found my core to be super cold, always my damn toes and tips of my ears.

Just buy this - maybe it'll come with the jacket too.

http://www.mec.ca/product/5029-783/mec-co-opted-jacket-womens/?f=10+50800

JLau
10-02-2013, 07:13 PM
This is the one I ended up getting last year (navy green color), very warm and stylish jacket. The coyote fur hood is awesome when it is snowing. Absolutely love moncler quality, probably gonna get one for my wife this yearhttp://store.moncler.com/it/giubbotto_cod41236416kj.html

The_Rural_Juror
10-02-2013, 07:37 PM
Altitude sports has a trade in your old jacket for $75 off a new one (min purchase required).

http://www.altitude-sports.com/en/one-jacket-two-stories

McMurdo was pretty popular a couple of years ago. Decently priced and warm. http://www.altitude-sports.com/en/the-north-face-mens-mcmurdo-parka-22283

flipstah
10-12-2013, 09:08 PM
So I went to Patagonia in Portland and tried on the 3 in 1 Parka. It was a great fit but at $500+USD, I couldn't snipe it.

I went the GoLite route and with the recommendation of the salesman, I bought the Roan Plateau instead of the Bitterroot.

The salesman said that the Roan Plateau was more suitable for the dry, windy Calgary climate so at $150, I bought it.

It has less fill power at 800 vs the Bitterroot's 850 but the Roan Plateau has more fill weight at 165g vs. 150g.

http://gearpatrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/golite-roan-plateau-hoodie.jpg

msommers
10-12-2013, 09:22 PM
Wow what a price difference! Yeah no brainer there. I like the look of this one a lot more than the other. The culfs are an interesting cut.

At any rate, let us know how it holds up this winter!

flipstah
10-12-2013, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by msommers
Wow what a price difference! Yeah no brainer there. I like the look of this one a lot more than the other. The culfs are an interesting cut.

At any rate, let us know how it holds up this winter!

Apparently, the cuff is cut like that for heat retention. Have no idea.

Will definitely be posting a video when the mercury drops again! :thumbsup:

jwslam
10-13-2013, 03:28 AM
Getting one of these from the company

Apparently I'm only 4/20 people who opted to get my name on it. I didn't like the big buttons at first but they grew on me, and definitely made sure the fur was removable

http://www.stormtech.ca/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/d/gd-1_black.jpg

BerserkerCatSplat
10-13-2013, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by flipstah
So I went to Patagonia in Portland and tried on the 3 in 1 Parka. It was a great fit but at $500+USD, I couldn't snipe it.

I went the GoLite route and with the recommendation of the salesman, I bought the Roan Plateau instead of the Bitterroot.

The salesman said that the Roan Plateau was more suitable for the dry, windy Calgary climate so at $150, I bought it.

It has less fill power at 800 vs the Bitterroot's 850 but the Roan Plateau has more fill weight at 165g vs. 150g.


:thumbsup: Good-looking coat, that definitely oughta keep you nice and warm.

The_Rural_Juror
10-14-2013, 09:46 AM
Looks like one of the CR parkas. Banff I think.

Weapon_R
10-14-2013, 10:01 AM
Mcmurdo and stone sentinel north face parkas are $200 at winners.

flipstah
10-15-2013, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Weapon_R
Mcmurdo and stone sentinel north face parkas are $200 at winners.

CHEAP. :thumbsup:

Oliver009
10-17-2013, 03:30 AM
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JordanEG6
12-09-2013, 03:07 PM
Picked this up last night. Loving it so far.

http://a2.zassets.com/images/z/2/2/8/6/5/4/2286540-1-MULTIVIEW.jpg

flipstah
12-09-2013, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by flipstah
So I went to Patagonia in Portland and tried on the 3 in 1 Parka. It was a great fit but at $500+USD, I couldn't snipe it.

I went the GoLite route and with the recommendation of the salesman, I bought the Roan Plateau instead of the Bitterroot.

The salesman said that the Roan Plateau was more suitable for the dry, windy Calgary climate so at $150, I bought it.

It has less fill power at 800 vs the Bitterroot's 850 but the Roan Plateau has more fill weight at 165g vs. 150g.

http://gearpatrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/golite-roan-plateau-hoodie.jpg



Originally posted by msommers
Wow what a price difference! Yeah no brainer there. I like the look of this one a lot more than the other. The culfs are an interesting cut.

At any rate, let us know how it holds up this winter!

After this recent snowfall, I like how the jacket was designed but its' quality control is lackluster.

There are cold spots especially near the armpit where the wind is biting through (possibly not enough or no fill at all). I will hold it up against the light and confirm.

The down-filled hood with the shock cord is fantastic but since it has no fur flap, I have to get a balaclava to protect the face from the wind but unlike my North Face McMurdo, the hood isn't acting like a parachute this time around. :rofl:

The cuff design is nice because it's elastic and it's not letting air through the sleeve.

Overall, I would say it's alright (I'm surviving with just a dress shirt on) but definitely needs more fill and some outer access pockets on the sleeve.

BananaFob
12-09-2013, 03:38 PM
Just bought this as it's my coworker's brother in law's company. They've been featured in GQ for the past little while now. SUPER WARM but not big and puffy.

http://www.aetherapparel.com/shop/mens/insulated/cloud/

flipstah
12-09-2013, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by BananaFob
Just bought this as it's my coworker's brother in law's company. They've been featured in GQ for the past little while now. SUPER WARM but not big and puffy.

http://www.aetherapparel.com/shop/mens/insulated/cloud/

From what I've read, synthetic Primaloft sucks when it's wet but with a waterproof layer, this may be a goodie.

it's odd that their warmest jacket, the Highline (http://www.aetherapparel.com/shop/mens/insulated/highline/), is only water resistant. :confused:

bjstare
12-09-2013, 03:58 PM
Bought one of these online, came in Friday before last - perfect timing. Called the CMFR Gormley. Reviews I've read say similar quality to CG (slightly lower fill power and Coyote on hood is nicer with the CMFR)... but bottom line, is I'd just rather have this one. I'm really happy with it so far. And I paid <$450.
http://cdn.ssense.com/photos/men/01/2/2/12369M029005_4_2.jpg

flipstah
12-09-2013, 04:11 PM
Wow, the GoLite guys are quick to respond:




Don,

I would agree with our salesperson in our Woodburn, OR store that the Roan Plateau is our warmest jacket. However, down jackets are not windproof by any means, there is nothing wrong with your jacket, however I would recommend better layering under the jacket and if there is a cold wind then some type of wind shell over the Roan. Down needs to breath, and is not designed to be windproof. If you need wind protection from cold wind than you need a windproof and/or a waterproof shell.

Thank you for inquiring with GoLite,

Jim Lewis
Customer Service Representative
GoLite, LLC

6325 Gunpark Drive, Suite 102
Boulder, CO 80301
www.golite.com

888 / 546-5483, option #2

BananaFob
12-09-2013, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by flipstah


From what I've read, synthetic Primaloft sucks when it's wet but with a waterproof layer, this may be a goodie.

it's odd that their warmest jacket, the Highline (http://www.aetherapparel.com/shop/mens/insulated/highline/), is only water resistant. :confused:

??? I thought primaloft was designed as an alternative to down as a material that would retain heat while wet?

http://www.primaloft.com/en/performance/community/blog/primaloft-down-comparison.html

flipstah
12-09-2013, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by BananaFob


??? I thought primaloft was designed as an alternative to down as a material that would retain heat while wet?

http://www.primaloft.com/en/performance/community/blog/primaloft-down-comparison.html

Sorry. Had it backwards.