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colinxx235

11-08-2012, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by holden
man, do the lakers suck... their offense is mediocre at best and nobody but dwight is playing defense...

there doesn't seem to be a dominant team yet.. all the powerhouses have struggled, Miami, OKC, San Antonio and Boston...

Miami...?

They are 4-1 and have won the last two games by 55 points. The loss to the knicks was just a melo show.

I'm impressed how the bulls are doing without my #1 Deeee Rose. I want him back :(

holden

11-08-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by colinxx235

Miami...?

They are 4-1 and have won the last two games by 55 points. The loss to the knicks was just a melo show.

I'm impressed how the bulls are doing without my #1 Deeee Rose. I want him back :(

Maybe struggle wasn't the right word, but they were a play away from losing to Denver and starting the season 1-2. Also, until last night's win over BK, they were letting opponents score well over 100 points per game.

Miami has changed from slower pace, half court team to an up-tempo, run and gun team.

4doorj

11-08-2012, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by holden
man, do the lakers suck... their offense is mediocre at best and nobody but dwight is playing defense...

This:werd:
They really need to fire mike brown.
Also their bench blows. They need to keep jamison and jordan hill, and get rid of the rest of the bench.

Again this is just my opinion.

ajooo

11-08-2012, 01:17 PM

hmm.. coming from a big lakers fan i wouldnt say they completely suck.

its 5 games in the season, with half of the team being new faces and a new offense. i personally think the offense isnt the problem, but defensive consistency is definitely top of the list.

also, i dont know what to think about mike brown, but he needs to step it up.. especially with rumors of Jerry Sloan wanting the job haha

LongCity

11-08-2012, 01:23 PM

Spurs got spanked last night but other than that I would rank Spurs 1 and Miami 2. Minnesota and Chicago are big surprises so far and as for Brooklyn... They are the Brooklyn Nots. The Lakers... Not much else to say for the moment as the season is still young but they have a Kobe and with that, anything is possible.

4doorj

11-08-2012, 01:36 PM

I know I won't hear the end of it but I'm a big raptors fan even though they suck.

It was awesome having lowry. Now that he's injured it looks like the old raptors again.

I'm a huge bargnani fan but I think it's time to change things up. They should trade away bargnani and calderon while they are worth something. They just signed derozen so they will be keeping him.

4doorj

11-08-2012, 01:42 PM

Oh and forgot to mention. Harden is killing it!!!! I knew he was good but didnt know he could pull numbers like that.

Impreza

11-09-2012, 12:10 PM

Laker's fans prayers have been answered:

Mike Brown fired (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8610888/los-angeles-lakers-fired-coach-mike-brown-source-says)

4doorj

11-09-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Impreza
Laker's fans prayers have been answered:

Mike Brown fired (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8610888/los-angeles-lakers-fired-coach-mike-brown-source-says) :thumbsup: Horray!

max_boost

11-09-2012, 12:18 PM

Who is next? Bring back Phillip!

ajooo

11-09-2012, 01:35 PM

jerry sloan, phil, or brian shaw would be nice

403ep3

11-09-2012, 02:10 PM

I haven't watched this much basketball for years, stupid hockey!

I do enjoy keeping up with basketball now, mainly because of a friends fantasy league.

I'm not surprised MB finally got fired. Hopefully Nash can orchestrate that offence when he gets back. I don't like the lakers but I have Nash and Kobe in my pool :poosie:

sexualbanana

11-10-2012, 02:24 PM

Minnesota's been a really fun team to watch this year

pyroza

11-12-2012, 02:20 AM

Mike D'Antoni is the new Lakers head coach. Hahahahahaha

sexualbanana

11-12-2012, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by pyroza
Mike D'Antoni is the new Lakers head coach. Hahahahahaha

Stan Van Gundy would've been way funnier.

ajooo

11-12-2012, 08:23 AM

sigh, i would've loved to see phil back on the team. but d'antoni is an upgrade either way.

sexualbanana

11-12-2012, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by ajooo
sigh, i would've loved to see phil back on the team. but d'antoni is an upgrade either way.

I don't really think so because the offense wasn't really the problem. Sure their pace is going to pick up and they're sure to run more transition. But defensively they've just been playing terribly, and d'Antoni isn't exactly known for his defensive prowess.

Their problem has been a lack of perimeter defense.
- Nash is like a rotating door
- Kobe's job is more tailored for the offensive end so he can't play too hard on defense and risk getting into foul trouble.
- MWP is probably the only good perimeter defender, but he's still too slow to guard anyone in the backcourt.

Interior defense hasn't been that good either. Dwight's rotation's have been a step late (which is probably attributable to his still recovering back). Pau is getting drawn out farther into the mid-range and guys are taking advantage of his inability to move with them when they face up.

Defensive rebounding has also been an issue. It's hard to believe that with a front court of Dwight, Pau, and Metta that anyone can get an offensive board, but they've shown an inability lately to keep guys out. Isiah Thomas last night managed to get in their for some short rebounds, and there really isn't any excuse for a point guard to be able to grab a rebound anywhere near the hoop with those 3 on the floor.

gyu

11-12-2012, 12:08 PM

And yet Kobe still makes all defensive teams year after year :rofl: :facepalm:

sexualbanana

11-12-2012, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by gyu
And yet Kobe still makes all defensive teams year after year :rofl: :facepalm:

I'm not saying he's a bad defender, but I think he's an average defender (during the season) who gets voted onto the first-team all defense because he's Kobe. He can be a phenomenal defender when he doesn't have to worry about playing offense. My example would be his place on the last two Olympic teams. He's happily (as happy as you can expect Kobe to be) passed off the offensive load to guys like Lebron, Dwyane, and Chris Paul, while he locks down his assignment.

At the end of the day, Kobe's value to the Lakers falls in his offensive abilities and, even now, the Lakers would rather he plays soft positional defense than risk getting him into foul trouble and not have him on the offensive end. Even with the likes of Nash and Howard on the team, the offense still runs through him. And the majority of looks they'll get will be the result of the double- and triple-teams that he draws.

ajooo

11-12-2012, 12:40 PM

i agree with some of your points, however teams havent been double/triple teaming kobe, just because of everyone else on the floor.

D'antoni isnt known for his defense, but his last year with the Knicks they were top 10, and thats with Chandler. Howard is 10x better of a defensive player then Chandler so we'll see what they can do. Plus, theres talk of Mike going after Nate McMillan for defensive assistant so that will be a a boost as well.

sexualbanana

11-12-2012, 12:55 PM

MWP got a lot of good looks at the 3-point line last night against Sac because of Kobe's penetration though.

But again, it's not the offense that poses the biggest problem for the Lakers. It's on the defensive end. Rebounding and perimeter defense needs to improve. They're not as athletic as the Heat are, so they need to rely on forcing outside shots, grabbing the miss, and making the quick outlet pass (like the Suns with Amare, Marion, and Nash. Not to say Amare was ever a good defender, but he could rebound). They're not really doing that right now, and they're allowing smaller guards to get rebounds and allow for second-chance points.

sexualbanana

11-12-2012, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by ajooo
i agree with some of your points, however teams havent been double/triple teaming kobe, just because of everyone else on the floor.

D'antoni isnt known for his defense, but his last year with the Knicks they were top 10, and thats with Chandler. Howard is 10x better of a defensive player then Chandler so we'll see what they can do. Plus, theres talk of Mike going after Nate McMillan for defensive assistant so that will be a a boost as well.

Interesting stat I found on Twitter:

Traditionally, d'Antoni defenses have had an average rank of 20th.

MacMillan defenses: 19th.

gyu

11-12-2012, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by sexualbanana

I'm not saying he's a bad defender, but I think he's an average defender (during the season) who gets voted onto the first-team all defense because he's Kobe. He can be a phenomenal defender when he doesn't have to worry about playing offense. My example would be his place on the last two Olympic teams. He's happily (as happy as you can expect Kobe to be) passed off the offensive load to guys like Lebron, Dwyane, and Chris Paul, while he locks down his assignment.

At the end of the day, Kobe's value to the Lakers falls in his offensive abilities and, even now, the Lakers would rather he plays soft positional defense than risk getting him into foul trouble and not have him on the offensive end. Even with the likes of Nash and Howard on the team, the offense still runs through him. And the majority of looks they'll get will be the result of the double- and triple-teams that he draws.

I agree with you, I just find it ridiculous he always makes the all defensive teams when there are defensive specialists who are much more worthy.

ajooo

11-12-2012, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by sexualbanana

Interesting stat I found on Twitter:

Traditionally, d'Antoni defenses have had an average rank of 20th.

MacMillan defenses: 19th.

lol awesome. either way i believe in this lakers team. plus they've never had a dwight howard

colinxx235

11-12-2012, 04:04 PM

^

they just had a shaq instead.....

brucebanner

11-12-2012, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by colinxx235
^

they just had a shaq instead.....

:rofl: :rofl:

Guess the Lakers never had a dominate center before Howard.

beyond_ban

11-12-2012, 09:42 PM

Ya, Kareem wasn't very good either.

ajooo

11-12-2012, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by colinxx235
^

they just had a shaq instead.....

sorry not what i meant. i meant Nate or Mike never had a dominant center like dwight on their teams.

colinxx235

11-12-2012, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by beyond_ban
Ya, Kareem wasn't very good either.

there was some random guy named wilt there a long time ago too... I hear he was ok :dunno:

:rofl:

also mike did briefly have chandler... not too bad in my books as a center

ajooo

11-12-2012, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by colinxx235

there was some random guy named wilt there a long time ago too... I hear he was ok :dunno:

:rofl:

also mike did briefly have chandler... not too bad in my books as a center

i've stated my thoughts on chandler already. if mike went to a top 10 defensive team with chandler. the lakers wont have a problem defensively with a a way better defensive presence in howard.

sexualbanana

11-13-2012, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by ajooo

i've stated my thoughts on chandler already. if mike went to a top 10 defensive team with chandler. the lakers wont have a problem defensively with a a way better defensive presence in howard.

I don't think Howard is any better than Chandler, defensively. The difference with Howard is he shows up on a lot more highlight reels because of alley-oops and those monster help-side blocks that always show up on the highlight reel.

Discipline and focus-wise, Chandler is a better player. Dwight's happy go-lucky attitude is a double-edged sword. Especially in a market like LA, and especially when you're on the same team as Kobe.

Offensively, Dwight is better. He's virtually unstoppable on those dives to the low post. And he's absolutely quicker when he can face up from in close. Back to the basket, he has trouble, and doesn't have too many moves.

Chandler doesn't have much of an offensive game outside of putbacks from offensive boards.

So, imo, the biggest difference between Chandler and Howard is on the offensive end.

sexualbanana

11-13-2012, 12:17 AM

Where I question Mike Brown's firing is the timing. While I don't think he's a good coach, I don't think he's a bad one either. And firing him right before a 6-game homestand still leaves a lot of variables on the table that would effect the outcomes of the games.

The teams they play, especially at the beginning, are questionable. Golden State and Sacramento. The Spurs would be a serious test, and Phoenix and Houston would the games where you could get an accurate gauge of where the Lakers are offensively and defensively. Brooklyn is questionable because they look to be kind of a mess right now, despite winning games.

If they finished the home stand 3-3 or better (with a win over at least HOU or PHX), then I would say Brown stays. Any worse (or they lose to both HOU or PHX), then I would say the Mike Brown Experiment didn't work.

Otherwise, if by some chance the Lakers go 6-0 on this homestand, what do you attribute the wins to? Spending 10 days at home with no travel? Player chemistry finally mixing? The temporary assignment of Bickerstaff? Or, re-hiring Phil (let's face it, that's where everyone thought that was going)?

ajooo

11-13-2012, 10:24 AM

who's your team ^^

if i knew there were this many nba fans on beyond, i would've wanted to try out a fantasy league or something

colinxx235

11-13-2012, 10:34 AM

I'm really surprised with Jackson in the mix they didn't hire him unless something was hindering that. He was probably salivating at the starters he would get to work with.

Bulls fan over here, all part of growing up loving MJ. I really hope rose is back soon... makes the games so much better to watch.

4doorj

11-13-2012, 10:43 AM

Man that raps jazz game last night was crazy. Triple overtime Out of all people to tie the game, al jefferson from 3 point! WTF hahahha

sexualbanana

11-13-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by ajooo
who's your team ^^

if i knew there were this many nba fans on beyond, i would've wanted to try out a fantasy league or something

I like the Lakers and the Raps. For the most part, I just cheer for entertaining games, though. And as a basketball coach, I like to watch the really well-coached teams like the Spurs, who I think are one of the most underrated teams in recent memory.

sexualbanana

11-13-2012, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by colinxx235
I'm really surprised with Jackson in the mix they didn't hire him unless something was hindering that. He was probably salivating at the starters he would get to work with.

Bulls fan over here, all part of growing up loving MJ. I really hope rose is back soon... makes the games so much better to watch.

Apparently Jackson was asking for a lot. Like a stake in team ownership, and a (somehow) easier travel schedule.

4doorj

11-13-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by sexualbanana

I like the Lakers and the Raps.
haha Man I thought I was alone for cheering for the raps haha. I'm the only one in my family and the only one out of my friends haha.

colinxx235

11-13-2012, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by sexualbanana

Apparently Jackson was asking for a lot. Like a stake in team ownership, and a (somehow) easier travel schedule.

That's what I was assuming in terms of hindering. He probably laughed at the chaos going on and was going to ask for insane amounts of money/ownership stakes.

Well hopefully D'antoni works fast, otherwise PJ might just wait and come in.

sexualbanana

11-13-2012, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by colinxx235

That's what I was assuming in terms of hindering. He probably laughed at the chaos going on and was going to ask for insane amounts of money/ownership stakes.

He's already got the owner's sister. :bigpimp:

ajooo

11-13-2012, 11:29 AM

crazy how the Knicks are both #1 in off/def efficiency

4doorj

11-13-2012, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by ajooo
crazy how the Knicks are both #1 in off/def efficiency
Watching them play is awesome. So much chemistry. Wonder if stoudamire will throw that off.

4doorj

11-13-2012, 02:12 PM

high five the air
:rofl:
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/611/427/HardenFAIL_original.gif
:rofl:

Impreza

11-13-2012, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by sexualbanana

He's already got the owner's sister. :bigpimp:

Isn't Jeanie Buss the daughter? :dunno:

sexualbanana

11-13-2012, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Impreza

Isn't Jeanie Buss the daughter? :dunno:

Oops. Got it twisted around.

He's got the owner's daughter, and the GM's sister.

LongCity

11-14-2012, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by 4doorj
high five the air
:rofl:
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/611/427/HardenFAIL_original.gif
:rofl:

Don't wanna change up your routine. Pretty funny, though.

ajooo

11-15-2012, 11:58 PM

knicks are for real!!!

but is anyone watching the mia/den game? pretty intense

colinxx235

11-16-2012, 09:17 AM

^

I think those guys have a real hard time playing in Denver. Going from Miami to that altitude really starts to show up in the 4th quarter.

Some really good games last night though.

sexualbanana

11-16-2012, 02:45 PM

All the games were pretty good last night.

DEN-MIA is always fun to watch because both teams are basically designed for transition basketball.

The Knicks coming back to win was surprising. I haven't watched the game yet, but they showed a bit of the game last night when they Spurs were up 8-10 points with a few minutes left. Too bad they switched it back to the Celtics-Nets game, though.

One thing that bugged me last night, and I didn't realize how much I didn't like it until last last, was the inbounding rule.

If the NBA is going to allow that amount of timeouts per team, then they have to eliminate the ability to inbound the ball into the backcourt (when inbounding from the front court). With all those timeouts, the coaches better be able to draw something up to get someone open, rather than rely on the ability to play the angles and chuck the ball into the backcourt.

4doorj

12-04-2012, 09:51 PM

- Wow! wizards with only 1 win beat the miami heat!

-new orleans hornets might change their name to new orleans pelicans... wtf

brucebanner

12-04-2012, 10:23 PM

Wiz with a big win, the Heat have to actually start playing at least 3 quarters of ball. Lakers let another one go. Zbo had a huge game.

So much ball to watch today. Court cuts were sick as always!

ajooo

12-04-2012, 10:57 PM

sigh... its tough being a lakers fan right now.

but miami has been playing pretty poorly. way to many games they've had to come back and win (except tonight losing to the WIZARDS) haha

and Z-Bo is just a beast. a memphis - okc playoff series would be pretty exciting

LongCity

12-05-2012, 12:36 AM

Miami should be embarrassed, even though any team can beat any team at any given time. Within the span of a week you almost lost to the San Antonio B squad then go and lose against Washington despite LBJ's triple double.

brucebanner

12-05-2012, 01:01 AM

I agree with you LongCity, they definitely should be embarrassed. Losing to one of the worst teams in the league, when you're a top tier team shouldn't really happen. A lot of people have been talking about how the Heat have been basically gliding by until the forth and then pulling out the W. Maybe this will be a wake-up call for them.

Raptors almost come back today, although they played some extremely sloppy ball in the first half. If they had it somewhat together in the first half, maybe they would have pulled out a W against a very good Nuggets team.

I think the Raptors have to get rid of Bargs while he still has decent value, he has been there long enough to show he isn't the player they thought he was going to be. Not sure who I would rather than him, in a fair value trade though.

ajooo

12-05-2012, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by bruceod
I agree with you LongCity, they definitely should be embarrassed. Losing to one of the worst teams in the league, when you're a top tier team shouldn't really happen. A lot of people have been talking about how the Heat have been basically gliding by until the forth and then pulling out the W. Maybe this will be a wake-up call for them.

Raptors almost come back today, although they played some extremely sloppy ball in the first half. If they had it somewhat together in the first half, maybe they would have pulled out a W against a very good Nuggets team.

I think the Raptors have to get rid of Bargs while he still has decent value, he has been there long enough to show he isn't the player they thought he was going to be. Not sure who I would rather than him, in a fair value trade though.

bargs for pau gasol haha (exactly like my nba 2k13 myplayer)

403ep3

12-05-2012, 01:42 AM

I'm hoping nash comes back soon so he can dish some assists for my fantasy team, hah!

Zbo and P.George with big nights! Anyone think Larry Sanders will keep blocking the #$%& out of everyone?

sexualbanana

12-05-2012, 12:35 PM

DENZILDON

12-05-2012, 03:11 PM

going to watch Kings and Knicks on the 28th! So Excited! :clap:

LongCity

12-06-2012, 09:48 PM

If they weren't embarrassed before, the Heat should be now. A Carmeloless NYK... C'mon now, you'd think they'd wanna redeem themselves after the Wizards loss. Different story if they lost to the same Carmelo from last year but he's been playing really well.

4doorj

12-11-2012, 08:48 AM

Raptor's 4th quarters :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

J.M.

12-11-2012, 02:40 PM

Raptors :rofl:

Amir throws his mouthpiece at a ref hahaha

LongCity

12-13-2012, 03:53 AM

God dammit, Maurice! What a heartbreaker.

ajooo

12-20-2012, 11:40 PM

lol.... oh man, nuggets with 1 FG outside of the paint.

tomt64

12-23-2012, 12:15 AM

Lal vs Gs what a game tonight. 4th and ot was intense!

403ep3

12-23-2012, 12:40 AM

kobe sure had a shooting workout today lol

403ep3

12-23-2012, 07:00 PM

Nash is back... now Nowitzki played tonight.

Soon Wall, Stoudemire, gordon, and eventually... ROSE!

B-ball just got better :poosie:

J.M.

02-01-2013, 03:09 AM

Rudy Gay to Toronto for Ed Davis and Calderon.

4doorj

02-01-2013, 08:52 PM

Sad to see Ed Davis go, but the trade is awesome!
They killed it today. Gay scored game high 20 for the raptors.

I know its impossible but imagine they were able to somehow get josh smith.

J.M.

02-01-2013, 09:56 PM

Definitely sad to see Ed Davis leave as well as Calderon, especially for how long he's stuck with the team. Calderon getting traded was no surprise to me though, he had already been "traded" to Charlotte back in 2010 but I think the Bobcats owners didn't approve the deal or something.

Raptors should have just drafted Gay instead of Bargnani from the beginning :rofl: Gay had a great debut, hefty contract but you gotta pay to play I guess..

Josh Smith for Bargnani, Fields, + others?? We can only dream lol but the Raps would definitely be a much powerful team if BC managed to pull that off.

403ep3

02-01-2013, 10:10 PM

Man I feel bad for Davis. He was looking real promising and getting a chance to show what he has. Now he sits on the bench and plays for 5 minutes and takes 1 shot.

brucebanner

02-01-2013, 10:39 PM

Butler at the end of the game? Thought that was real amusing. :rofl:

Manhattan

02-11-2013, 02:44 PM

http://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/301030700281368576/photo/1

NBA introducing new compression sleeve jerseys. Marginally better for the players but what the average fan thinks about fitting into a skin tight compression jersey.

LongCity

02-11-2013, 02:52 PM

Ugly. This isn't soocer (football).

In other news, Spurs still beasting even without Tim and Manu. First to 40 wins.

ajooo

02-11-2013, 03:22 PM

those jerseys are so ugly... reminds me of volleyball jerseys

who else thinks the east is definitely taking the all-star dunk contest haha

403ep3

02-11-2013, 03:48 PM

any chance you can post a picture on here? my work blocks twitter

ajooo

02-11-2013, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by 403ep3
any chance you can post a picture on here? my work blocks twitter

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/720/483/warriors2_original_original_original.jpg?1360612797

403ep3

02-11-2013, 03:58 PM

WOW those are horrible :nut:

4doorj

02-12-2013, 08:33 PM

Rudy gay the finisher!!!

RY213

02-19-2013, 10:33 PM

Anyone see the exchange tonight between Matt Devlin and the rapper Wale? Devlin was joking around on air saying Drake was a better rapper and called him Walleye. Wale then tweeted him telling him to watch his mouth and went up to the commentators booth. :rofl:

4doorj

02-19-2013, 10:35 PM

Hahav they showed a little. But they didn't explain. Funny.

403ep3

02-21-2013, 01:12 PM

Sebastian Telfair - G - Suns The Raptors have reportedly acquired Sebastian Telfair from the Suns, in exchange for Hamed Haddadi.
Related: Hamed Haddadi
Feb 21 - 2:08 PM

Jordan Crawford will be traded to the Celtics, according to David Aldridge.
The Celtics are looking for backcourt help with Leandro Barbosa (knee) now done for the season, so Crawford will bring exactly that. The sight of Kevin Garnett and Crawford in practice together will be something special, but it's uncertain how Crawford will fit into the Celtics rotation upon joining the team. Related: Celtics
Source: David Aldridge on Twitter Feb 21 - 1:49 PM

sexualbanana

02-21-2013, 05:36 PM

Telfair doesn't really provide much to any team except a handful of respectable offensive games. His defence is still atrocious. With Calderon gone, Telfair basically just replaces Lucas' role as the 3rd string point guard.

JJ Redick going to the Bucks is a little weird though, but not surprising. It's probably a sign that they don't think Jennings is going to re-sign (or that Ellis isnt going to use his option) which means they'll keep JJ at the 2 for next year. It's just a weird fit now because they've added a great utility player in Reddick who will be taking minutes (for better or worse) from the trigger happy Ellis and Jennings.

J.M.

02-21-2013, 05:56 PM

Didn't Barbosa just get traded by the Celtics?

4doorj

02-21-2013, 06:10 PM

That was the most boring trade deadline ever

sexualbanana

02-21-2013, 06:11 PM

I don't think he got traded, but he injured his ACL and is out for the year, which is why the Celtics traded for Jordan Crawford

4doorj

02-21-2013, 06:18 PM

He's right be was traded. Just for his expiring contact.

sexualbanana

02-21-2013, 06:21 PM

Ha. Same trade. Oops.

Anyways, I'm reading that the deadline was mostly quiet because teams didn't want to screw themselves when the new luxury tax rules kick in next year.

Where the previous CBA's luxury tax was dollar for dollar over the cap (ie. $4M over the cap meant a $4M luxury tax), the new one starts at $1.50 per dollar and increases from there.