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oz388
01-11-2013, 12:53 PM
Oh well, gas price is at the lowest level now which can be bought for under $0.90/L. I'm almost sure the price will shot up to above $1.3/L in summer. It sounds dangerous but I'm still wondering if anyone has been storing large amount gasoline in garage for rainy days?

Boosted131
01-11-2013, 12:56 PM
Don't store any gasoline in your garage... Keep it in a shed or something

heavyfuel
01-11-2013, 01:38 PM
90 cents/L x (avg) 50L tank = $45.

$1.03 L x 50L tank = $51.50

Difference is $6.50 per tank. Even if it skyrockets to $1.50 L cut corners elsewhere, figure out how to make fuel a tax writeoff, or get a bus pass if you don't like it. It's not gonna change anytime soon.

One less big mac meal. One less latte. One less beer after work. To me that seems like a hell of a safer bet than to store fuel in your garage.

KAVIE
01-11-2013, 01:40 PM
RVP is very different in summer vs winter, roughly 20 kPa. I don't think storing gas for auto use is a good idea....

bjstare
01-11-2013, 01:42 PM
Better store all the gas you can IMO. Use plastic bags and milk jugs if you have to. No way am I gonna spend an extra 6 bucks per tank every refill!! :eek:

Canmorite
01-11-2013, 01:45 PM
Holy anti-opportunists :rofl:

I've thought about this as well, but the amount you'd have to store to make it worthwhile is probably over a few thousand liters, when you include the cost of a proper storage tank/facility, delivery, carrying costs, financing, etc. Not to mention the pain-in-the-ass factor.

Worth it to hedge if you have large trucking operations and 10,000 litre tanks to store it in. Otherwise, not so much...

Xtrema
01-11-2013, 01:48 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121365158178678861.html

Boosted131
01-11-2013, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by cjblair
Better store all the gas you can IMO. Use plastic bags and milk jugs if you have to. No way am I gonna spend an extra 6 bucks per tank every refill!! :eek: I lol'd, just pictured the op with a clothesline with bags of gas hanging from it

rage2
01-11-2013, 01:57 PM
Garbage bags is definately the way to go.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-02EXdCrGWYg/UDDU4lFuBrI/AAAAAAAACe0/j9f-8SiQI6k/s320/gasbag.jpg

http://mattalltrades.blogspot.ca/2012/08/man-puts-gas-in-garbage-bags-to-save.html

oz388
01-11-2013, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by heavyfuel
90 cents/L x (avg) 50L tank = $45.

$1.03 L x 50L tank = $51.50



The peak of our gas price in summer should be around $1.3/L, not $1.03/L. So it's $20 saving per tank of gas.

kvg
01-11-2013, 02:01 PM
Doesn't doing that void your home insurance in the event of a fire? Also its illegal to have over a certain volume with out a extinguisher system and permit I believe.

max_boost
01-11-2013, 02:05 PM
It just doesn't seem like a good idea. if you want to save money, do so in other areas of your life i.e. go extreme coupon-ing mode lol

kvg
01-11-2013, 02:07 PM
Plus it sounds like work:rofl:. Go buy containers, then fill them, then bring them home, so how much will you really save for all that effort:dunno:

oz388
01-11-2013, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by kvg
Plus it sounds like work:rofl:. Go buy containers, then fill them, then bring them home, so how much will you really save for all that effort:dunno:

I know a lot ppl pay $40 - $60 a month to just lift metal plates at the gym...:poosie:

Tik-Tok
01-11-2013, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Canmorite
Holy anti-opportunists :rofl:

I've thought about this as well, but the amount you'd have to store to make it worthwhile is probably over a few thousand liters, when you include the cost of a proper storage tank/facility, delivery, carrying costs, financing, etc. Not to mention the pain-in-the-ass factor.

Worth it to hedge if you have large trucking operations and 10,000 litre tanks to store it in. Otherwise, not so much...

:werd:

The cost of jerry cans or a proper storage container for large amounts of gas, would completely offset your savings (at least for the first usage), and is also dangerous.

90 cents/L x (avg) 25L jerry can = + $20 for can = $42.5

$42.5 / 25L = $1.70 per Litre before it's worth it. Unless you have a use for lots of jerry cans after that, lol.

If the whole post is a facade, and you're actually a doomsday prepper, get a old <1985 diesel (VW, or any domestic truck), rip out the cat, and mix jet A1 fuel with oil. There'll be a ton of jet fuel around after the apocalypse.

ExtraSlow
01-11-2013, 02:15 PM
Plus, winter gas is awful.

CanmoreOrLess
01-11-2013, 02:18 PM
Buy gas futures as a hedge or make friends with a farmer/rancher. A Prius might make you not give a shit what the price of fuel is period.

kaput
01-11-2013, 04:53 PM
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thrasher22
01-11-2013, 05:01 PM
And don't forget gasoline doesn't have in infinite shelf life. Without adding a stabilizer gasoline starts to go bad after a few months, and buying that stabilizer would even out much of the cost savings.

Hell, if anyone is that cheap I have 10-15L of old gasoline I drained out of my project car sitting in the garage I'd like to get rid of. :dunno:

btimbit
01-11-2013, 05:01 PM
Well, if half the people that store their cars for the winter are to believed, this wouldn't work because apparently gas goes bad after 2 months:whipped:

Sugarphreak
01-11-2013, 05:36 PM
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btimbit
01-11-2013, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Usually takes gas about a year to go bad, but you can put a stabilizer in it to make it last a lot longer.

http://reviews.canadiantire.ca/9045/0380909P/motomaster-motomaster-fuel-stabilizer-reviews/reviews.htm

I know, just a jab at the people who make a big deal out of it when storing a car for a few weeks

CompletelyNumb
01-11-2013, 06:10 PM
I know plenty of guys that fill large slip tanks and then pump them off into barrels at home. Throw in some stabilizer and its fine. Shed is better than a garage though. Of course they do it off gas cards, but the savings would be worth it if you drive often enough.

heavyfuel
01-11-2013, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by oz388


The peak of our gas price in summer should be around $1.3/L, not $1.03/L. So it's $20 saving per tank of gas.

Ya, so 1 case of beer less per week. Big deal. I couldn't imagine budgeting for fuel (or anything else for that matter lol)

black13
01-11-2013, 07:52 PM
Jeese if your that concerned with gas prices then you should be driving a 4cyc eco box. I don't get people who buy gas guzzler's and complain about gas prices.

ZenOps
01-11-2013, 10:08 PM
The cost to safely store it would probably outweigh any savings.

Besides, how do you know for sure it will not go lower?

The US has a strategic petroleum reserve for emergencies, not really for moneysaving. It actually costs more to pump in into the abandoned salt mines, have security guards, and then pull it out again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve_(United_States)

M.alex
01-12-2013, 01:17 AM
Pretty sure most homeowners policies are void if you're storing more than X gallons of gas in your garage.

CompletelyNumb
01-12-2013, 01:27 AM
What if you go through 2000 litres of fuel a month? Seems like the savings would be more than enough to justify storing it.

Masked Bandit
01-12-2013, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by M.alex
Pretty sure most homeowners policies are void if you're storing more than X gallons of gas in your garage.

There's actually nothing in any of the policy wordings that specifically talk about fuel storage limits or anything like that. What is excluded though is any damage resulting from illegal activity. I'm guessing it's unlawful to store over a certain amount of fuel at your residence. That's where the hole would be.

heavyfuel
01-12-2013, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by CompletelyNumb
What if you go through 2000 litres of fuel a month? Seems like the savings would be more than enough to justify storing it.

If you go through that much then chances are it's not for personal use hence a partial if not total write-off, so no sense in worrying about the cost, the more you pay now, the less you pay later. I go through about 1000L/mth in the busy season. Couldn't give a fuck if it was $3/L when I can write it off.

C_Dave45
01-12-2013, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Masked Bandit


There's actually nothing in any of the policy wordings that specifically talk about fuel storage limits or anything like that. What is excluded though is any damage resulting from illegal activity. I'm guessing it's unlawful to store over a certain amount of fuel at your residence. That's where the hole would be.

So....you're saying I can't store that 1,000 lbs of Ammonian Nitrate in my garage? Bummer....

:D

Masked Bandit
01-12-2013, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by C_Dave45


So....you're saying I can't store that 1,000 lbs of Ammonian Nitrate in my garage? Bummer....

:D

Doesn't matter to me what you do at your personal residence. Just don't try to claim any damage resulting from said illegal....ummm....non-traditional activity.

:D

ZenOps
01-12-2013, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by C_Dave45


So....you're saying I can't store that 1,000 lbs of Ammonian Nitrate in my garage? Bummer....

:D

Lets see...

Ammonium nitrate @ 1.725 grams per cubic centimeter = 3,800 pounds per cubic meter. A footstool should be able to just fit 1,000 lbs.

This is a hard one: What takes up more space, three $100 bills or one nickel?

amDgel074c0

And the Ultimate test: How many Belarusian rubles does it take to buy 48 bottles of root beer?

bjstare
01-12-2013, 04:46 PM
^ :nut:

ThePenIsMightier
06-20-2019, 07:37 AM
Necromancer BUMP!
This is mildly related. I have zero interest in storing large volumes because the marth shows it doesn't save any money.
I'm just interested in storing a regular jerry can in my garage without it stinking up the place so badly.
What's your advice?
So far, I've given it a pretty good squeeze while it was at a somewhat neutral temperature and closed both lids tight. The temp swings in my garage are not small, but I'm hoping (keeping it out of the sun from windows) that as it heats up there will be room for expansion without venting and as it cools down, it will cave in a little more but not virtually implode and tip over.
In other words, I've tried to find the sweet spot where there is room for the vapour to expand and contract without the need for venting.

ExtraSlow
06-20-2019, 07:40 AM
Garages get really hot in summer. I've tried this and never been able to avoid strong gasoline odor. Better to store outdoors in a shady space IMO, although not storing is even better.

rx7boi
06-20-2019, 08:31 AM
I keep a jerry can half full of gas in my garage mostly for the lawnmower. Definitely don't use it all and not sure if it's damaging my mower.

Nothing has broken so until then......WEEEEEEEEEE.

roopi
06-20-2019, 09:32 AM
I leave a jerry can in my garage as well all year (heated in winters) and 3-4 days out of a year I can smell it.

mr2mike
06-20-2019, 02:25 PM
Garages get really hot in summer. I've tried this and never been able to avoid strong gasoline odor. Better to store outdoors in a shady space IMO, although not storing is even better.
I thought Beyonders get A/C in their humidity and temp controlled car holes?

ExtraSlow
06-20-2019, 02:26 PM
I thought Beyonders get A/C in their humidity and temp controlled car holes?

I don't think those beyonders even care, since the butler parks the car when they are done driving.

CLiVE
06-20-2019, 02:44 PM
I store almost 400L of gasoline in my garage.......(in the 5 vehicles I don't drive, while I bike to work.) :rofl:

legendboy
06-22-2019, 12:25 PM
Garbage bags is definately the way to go.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-02EXdCrGWYg/UDDU4lFuBrI/AAAAAAAACe0/j9f-8SiQI6k/s320/gasbag.jpg

http://mattalltrades.blogspot.ca/2012/08/man-puts-gas-in-garbage-bags-to-save.html

says the guy who use to have 50g drums of VP in his garage haha

suntan
06-22-2019, 03:08 PM
I thought Beyonders get A/C in their humidity and temp controlled car holes?

True baller beyonders keep their gas at a gas station.

eblend
07-01-2019, 06:21 PM
I have a funny story from Soviet Russia...

Back in the day my dad worked at an oil company in various divisions, be it roads or pipelines etc. Dad was a welder and did a solid for some big cheese our in Siberia, as a repayment for a favour, the big cheese offered my dad 20,000L of gasoline...for free, got to love corruption.

Using additional connections my dad was able to secure a 20,000L tank which they were able to bury in the woods, with a little shed out on top with a hand pump. My dad split the gasoline with the guy who helped him bury the tank My dad didn't need to pay for gas for 5 years! We always had a 50 gallon barrel with a hand pump in our garage which my dad would refill every few months. The top of the line Lada 3 Series had no issues with that gas for all that time :D

rage2
07-01-2019, 08:16 PM
says the guy who use to have 50g drums of VP in his garage haha
Don’t forget the multiple tins of methanol as well. :rofl: