Mercedes reveals 2014 Formula 1 engine

[syritis]

125 000rpm :eek:


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+Mercedes-Benz has unveiled the first images of the 2014 Formula 1 power unit that it believes will put the 'motor back in motorsport'.

As dyno testing of its new V6 1.6-litre turbo charged unit continues at its Brixworth facility, Mercedes says early indications from its work are pointing towards an exciting era for grand prix racing once the 2014 rules come into force.

Andy Cowell, managing director of Mercedes-Benz High Performance Engines, dismissed fears that the new power units would not deliver as exciting a sound as the current V8 engines, and predicted thrills for fans and challenges for drivers.

Andy Cowell : "The engines are going to be loud, but I think sweet sounding. The frequency will be higher and, with the turbocharger running at 125,000rpm, they will be loud. When you are stood next to it on the dyno it is not quiet and you need ear defenders. There will be a new quality to the racing too. It will edge towards a thinking drivers' formula to get the most from the car and the available fuel energy. The engines will also deliver much more torque - especially on the exit of the corners. Cars with more power than grip coming out of the corners - that is something that we all enjoy. They will also put F1 back at the cutting edge of new technology - which is what the fans want."

+Red Bull Racing chief technical officer Adrian Newey suggested last year that the power units would become the critical factor in deciding the outcome of the 2014 championship.

Cowell believed it was too early to be specific about the impact the engines will have, but was confident that the importance of the engine manufacturer would be greater than it was now, a move he welcomed.

"We are putting the motor back in motorsport, but to what extent we will only know in 2014," he said. "It will definitely have more of an influence."

The new power units will produce the same 750hp figure of the current engines but a larger percentage of that will come from Energy Recovery Systems.

The current KERS currently produces 80hp for 6.7 seconds per lap, while the new ERS will deliver 161 hp for 33.3 seconds per lap.

Cowell said: "Today it is difficult to be quick with KERS – for 2014 it will be impossible to go racing without ERS."

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[s dime]

looks amazing, I love F1 for always pushing the limit. :burnout:

[Redlined_8000]

I thought most turbos spool around that rpm anyway?

But ya looks awesome.

[s dime]

Originally posted by Redlined_8000
I thought most turbos spool around that rpm anyway?

But ya looks awesome.

Yep, thats average turbo RPM.

[btimbit]

Pretty excited, should be great to watch! Wonder what advancements they'll come up with

[e31]

Originally posted by s dime
looks amazing, I love F1 for always pushing the limit. :burnout:

Originally posted by btimbit
Pretty excited, should be great to watch! Wonder what advancements they'll come up with
Some quick figures I pulled off the net from Honda's F1 program during the turbo era.

Type: RA163E
Year: 1983
Number of cylinders: 6
Configuration: 80° vee, DOCH 4-valve, KKK twin turbo/IHI twin turbo
Capacity: 1494
RPM: 11000
Power: 600 bhp

Type: RA167E
Year: 1987
Number of cylinders: 6
Configuration: 80° vee, turbo
Capacity: 1494
RPM: 13000-14000
Power: 870-1050 bhp

Aside from the latest Aero, KERS, and a video-game steering wheel; we have simply come full circle in 30 years. The 80's cars were designed by Engineers probably using basic calculators & a sliderule. Somebody better impress me with a fancy computer model simulation quick or I may become quite ornery.

[rage2]

The turbo motors of 2014 is completely different than the old turbo era. Back then, they run potent and toxic fuels that allow the engines to run something like 70psi of boost. The upcoming engines run pump gas lol. There are other limitations that we have today too, boost limits, rev limits, longevity, all to ensure we don't get the insane power from the last few decades. The quali spec motors back then ran 1600hp and lasted 5 laps before grenadine haha.

Not really fair to say we've come full circle.

[e31]

Originally posted by rage2
Not really fair to say we've come full circle.

You're right, 2011 & 2012 can hardly compare to the races of yesteryear. The last few years of Red Bull Pole-to-Flag finishes have probably been the least exciting racing in a long time. But I digress...

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by e31


You're right, 2011 & 2012 can hardly compare to the races of yesteryear. The last few years of Red Bull Pole-to-Flag finishes have probably been the least exciting racing in a long time. But I digress...

you must have missed F1 in the early to mid 2000s

[btimbit]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren


you must have missed F1 in the early to mid 2000s

I thought 2009 was a blast as well

[syritis]

I've always been under the impression that a turbo running 70% efficiency is generally 60k rpm.
Anyways the most exciting part I read is that the cars will finally have enough torque to spin tires.

[Kramerica]

The increased reliability is supposed to allow the manufacturers to take the engines to Le Mans. I'm kind of disappointed that all these restrictions have been imposed to limit power to the point where they're now going to be just barely faster than other forms of motorsports.

It would've been more exciting and better off if they said "Here's the displacement, here's the number of races the engine has to last, good luck"

[rage2]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
you must have missed F1 in the early to mid 2000s
Or late 80's and early 90's with McLaren and Williams dominance lol.

I dunno, I thought 2012 was one of the better years of F1.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Kramerica
The increased reliability is supposed to allow the manufacturers to take the engines to Le Mans. I'm kind of disappointed that all these restrictions have been imposed to limit power to the point where they're now going to be just barely faster than other forms of motorsports.
It's not going to work for Le Mans. The distance required isn't nearly enough. Also, development freeze doesn't happen in Le Mans, so those engines would get old quick.

The whole Le Mans thing was just a marketing gimmick.


Originally posted by Kramerica
It would've been more exciting and better off if they said "Here's the displacement, here's the number of races the engine has to last, good luck"
Problem is that you get crazy power (FIA trying to curb power for safety), and you get into engine spend wars so the biggest spenders win a few then quit the sport cuz it's unsustainable.

Gone are the days of $1B+ F1 budgets haha.

[ryanallan]

Holy mother, the air box it huge. Longer intake runners, result of lower engine speeds? I wonder what it looks like on the inside.

[DJ Lazy]

Originally posted by e31


You're right, 2011 & 2012 can hardly compare to the races of yesteryear. The last few years of Red Bull Pole-to-Flag finishes have probably been the least exciting racing in a long time. But I digress...

We must have been watching 2 different 2012 championships... Red Bull hardly had it all their own way this year.

[btimbit]

Originally posted by DJ Lazy


We must have been watching 2 different 2012 championships... Red Bull hardly had it all their own way this year.

:werd: 2012 was a good watch, between the close finish between ferrari and red bull, and the return of the iceman, it was a fun one.