View Full Version : My trip to LA and AEM....
It was fun. Went down to attend the AEM Tuner Training program for their EMS engine management system. Had a blast, met some guys off other forums that were attending the seminar, got to cruise Susnet Boulevard, and watch some nice sunsets.... In all, a pretty cool place. Here are some pictures.... Aem runs a Mustang 1750 dyno....
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/aem.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/aemdyno.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/aemdyno2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/aemdyno3.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/aemdyno4.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/ferrari.jpg
AEM bought out DC sports....
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/dccivic.jpg
Went to this "church" in hopes of seeing Travolta or Cruise ;) lol
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/scientology.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/scientology2.jpg
YOu can live right on the beach overlooking the pacific for $2500 per month....
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/la2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/la3.jpg
Fuck, don't even TRY and drive down Sunset Boulevard after about 10:00 pm even on a weekday. Bumper to bumper crawling traffic for miles besiode the clubs. Kinda like Electric AVE in Calgary a few eyars ago, but about 100 times longer....
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/sunsetbl.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/innout.jpg
Wicked Sunsets....
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/sunset.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/sunset2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/fast-times/pacificsunset.jpg
JAYMEZ
02-15-2004, 01:09 PM
Nice pisc! post more , i wish i could go there now
Oh, and by the way.... that AEM system is VERY cool..... has a few problems and limitations, but for the money, it is awesome.
Automapping, boost control, boost compensation, wide band control, pc and internal data logging, traction control, anti lag, 2 step rev limiter, nitrous control (activation, retard, fueling etc...)...
very neat.
ninspeed
02-15-2004, 02:12 PM
cool... now all you gotta do is find a place for you dyno and open up again.... we are wating :D...
Nice picts man
EK 2.0
02-15-2004, 02:57 PM
Sweet pics man thanks for sharing them Toma...
And what *looking closer*...is that...nooooo, it cant be...yes it is a DSM on the dyno...WHOO HOO....
googe
02-15-2004, 03:34 PM
what does the aem have on the e-manage+profec e01 just out of curiosity?
ecstasy_civic
02-15-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by googe
what does the aem have on the e-manage+profec e01 just out of curiosity?
Id like to know the same thing
googe
02-15-2004, 04:10 PM
nm, i forgot that aem ems is standalone. big difference.
Yep, stand alone with only plug and play applications available currently.
They have a "race box" coming out for generic use (you wire it).
A2VR6
02-15-2004, 07:33 PM
Great pics man... by looking at them im wishing i could go back down there.
legendboy
02-15-2004, 07:41 PM
Nice Toma, now i have someone here in town to answer my ems questions :thumbsup:
Originally posted by googe
what does the aem have on the e-manage+profec e01 just out of curiosity?
Why would someone even ask that question lol
redline
02-17-2004, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by legendboy
Nice Toma, now i have someone here in town to answer my ems questions :thumbsup:
:werd:
Why would someone even ask that question lol
:werd:
redline
02-17-2004, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Toma
Oh, and by the way.... that AEM system is VERY cool..... has a few problems and limitations, but for the money, it is awesome.
Automapping, boost control, boost compensation, wide band control, pc and internal data logging, traction control, anti lag, 2 step rev limiter, nitrous control (activation, retard, fueling etc...)...
very neat.
in your opinion what are some of the problems and limitations?
googe
02-17-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by legendboy
Why would someone even ask that question lol
obviously because not everyone has looked at the specs on every engine management system available, and i forgot AEM's was standalone (hence the correction minutes later). youre not too bright are you?
can you tell me off the top of your head the difference in resolution between the ems and the motec m48? how many load points do you get? which let you have non-linear maps?
probably not, 'lol'
legendboy
02-17-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by googe
obviously because not everyone has looked at the specs on every engine management system available, and i forgot AEM's was standalone (hence the correction minutes later). youre not too bright are you?
can you tell me off the top of your head the difference in resolution between the ems and the motec m48? how many load points do you get? which let you have non-linear maps?
probably not, 'lol'
Your an idoit dude. You go from *forgetting*:rolleyes: that an AEM EMS is a standalone to knowing the difference in resoloution to a motec. Your just another uninformed person who posts before they think. (or search hehe) what the fuck do i care, I was just trying to make you feel stupid. But it looks like you do a good enough job at that on your own :rofl:
:whocares:
EK 2.0
02-17-2004, 04:10 PM
Toma, do we remember what that DSM put down in terms of numbers??...I know its not a huge deal, but just wondering...
Originally posted by redline
in your opinion what are some of the problems and limitations?
Stuff that came from the factory with ignitors (Supra) need a aftermarket ignition system since the wasted spark of the AEM (only 5 ignition outputs), would cut the factory dwell in half. They are working to resolve this in the nest year with a 12 channel ignition output.
Complex software and algorhythms.... quite complex implimentation of even some of the seemingly simplest stuff....gives more control, and you would probably never use even 50% of what the AEM is capable of.
High impedence injector drivers only ... require a ballast resistor or converion box to run low impedence. Not a huge deal with AEM since they flow test common injectors and have appropriate Injector voltage compensation built right in the software.
No OEM o2 sensor control. Kinda major, but their wide band is only $600 or so..... or you can run no 02 and just tune it on a wideband you borrow, and then get rid of it... I found this kinda major since most guys would want that, but I guess the AEM is more tailored for more "serious" cars.
That's all that comes to mind at the moment....
2000impreza
02-17-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by googe
obviously because not everyone has looked at the specs on every engine management system available, and i forgot AEM's was standalone (hence the correction minutes later). youre not too bright are you?
can you tell me off the top of your head the difference in resolution between the ems and the motec m48? how many load points do you get? which let you have non-linear maps?
probably not, 'lol'
haha. i got a good laugh out of this post. do you realize what you are comparing here?
BTW. the motec m48 has 8 fuel injector outputs, it is meant for 6-8 cylinder applications. not to mention the price these things go for compared to the aem.
heres the resolution of the motec:
Fuel:
Main Table (3D) 40 RPM sites x 21 Load sites (840 points)
End of Injection (3D) 20 RPM sites x 11 Load sites
Individual Cylinder Tables (3D) 20 RPM sites x 11 Load sites
Hi/Lo Injector Balance (3D) 20 RPM sites x 11 Load sites
Hi/Lo End of Injection (3D) 20 RPM sites x 11 Load sites
Ignition:
Individual Cylinder Tables (3D) 20 RPM sites x 11 Load sites
Rotary Split 20 RPM x 11 Load sites
Dwell Time 20 RPM x 11 Battery sites
as far as i know the AEM EMS has 17 Load x 21 RPM points on the fuel and ignition maps.
googe
02-17-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by legendboy
Your an idoit dude.
Originally posted by legendboy
Your just another uninformed person...
Originally posted by legendboy
I was just trying to make you feel stupid. But it looks like you do a good enough job at that on your own :rofl:
oh, the irony... :)
forgive me for not memorizing the specs on every engine management solution out there. youre obviously far from that point yourself, though, hence the backpeddling.
thats cool though, go out of your way to flame people on forums for asking questions. you really have something to be proud of :thumbsup:
fwiw, i dont know the differences off hand, id have to look them up, same as anyone else. the point i was trying to get across.
Weapon_R
02-17-2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by googe
oh, the irony... :)
:rofl:
ICEBERG
02-17-2004, 05:54 PM
Went to this "church" in hopes of seeing Travolta or Cruise
Did you join. :D I thought you would go to places to meet HOT Chicks not Male stars. You Bumm. :D
;)
Also is that the ferrari you RENTED while you where staying there?:bigpimp:
Originally posted by ICEBERG
Went to this "church" in hopes of seeing Travolta or Cruise
Did you join. :D I thought you would go to places to meet HOT Chicks not Male stars. You Bumm. :D
;)
Also is that the ferrari you RENTED while you where staying there?:bigpimp:
No, that was the Ferrari the lesbian twins that I met at the church drove me around in ;) ;)
redline
02-17-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Toma
Stuff that came from the factory with ignitors (Supra) need a aftermarket ignition system since the wasted spark of the AEM (only 5 ignition outputs), would cut the factory dwell in half. They are working to resolve this in the nest year with a 12 channel ignition output.
Complex software and algorhythms.... quite complex implimentation of even some of the seemingly simplest stuff....gives more control, and you would probably never use even 50% of what the AEM is capable of.
High impedence injector drivers only ... require a ballast resistor or converion box to run low impedence. Not a huge deal with AEM since they flow test common injectors and have appropriate Injector voltage compensation built right in the software.
No OEM o2 sensor control. Kinda major, but their wide band is only $600 or so..... or you can run no 02 and just tune it on a wideband you borrow, and then get rid of it... I found this kinda major since most guys would want that, but I guess the AEM is more tailored for more "serious" cars.
That's all that comes to mind at the moment....
thanks, i did not know about the oem o2 thing, that is kinda of a PITA.
Weapon_R
02-17-2004, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Toma
No, that was the Ferrari the lesbian twins that I met at the church drove me around in ;) ;)
Don't lie Toma. Everyone knows there's only room for 2 people in a ferrari...2 Twins + you = 3 people.
:rofl:
Originally posted by Weapon_R
Don't lie Toma. Everyone knows there's only room for 2 people in a ferrari...2 Twins + you = 3 people.
:rofl:
They took turns ;)
Ok, Ok, so I am full of shit :poosie:
cappachihngo
02-17-2004, 10:40 PM
wow, some very complex stuff here, but great pics:thumbsup:
Weapon_R
02-17-2004, 10:44 PM
Does AEM pay you guys to go out and learn their systems or is it the opposite?
Loose
02-17-2004, 10:47 PM
ha ha, if AEM is like any other buisness, they charge for a course.
Toma, does this mean you are a dealer for AEM now?
Not a dealer yet. I hope to be later when I re-open. And it will only be their electronics that I will have access to.
legendboy
02-18-2004, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by googe
oh, the irony... :)
forgive me for not blah blah fuckin blah point i was trying to get across.
Ok i guess i mis understood you a bit. Sorry about that.
But I think one fact remains.
Originally posted byLegendboy
Your just another uninformed person who posts before they think
please forgive me for not extending you enough e-courtesy :drama:
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