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Tik-Tok
02-07-2013, 10:56 AM
I've never had an urge to go there, even before they started hitting news in a negative way, but jesus, imagine this being your vacation???

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/02/07/acapulco-tourists-raped-mexico-spain_n_2637383.html


ACAPULCO, Mexico - Armed, masked men who raped six Spanish tourists in the Mexican resort of Acapulco spared the lone Mexican woman in the group because of her nationality, adding yet another macabre twist to the case that has further hurt the resort's already battered reputation.

It was unclear whether the group of 12 Spaniards who fell prey to the attack had been targeted because of their nationality in the three-hour ordeal at a rented house on a tranquil beach dotted with restaurants, small hotels and rental homes. Most of the six men and six women live in Mexico City and were vacationing in Acapulco.

The five attackers burst into the house and held the group at gunpoint, said Acapulco Mayor Luis Walton. They tied up the six men with phone cords and bathing suit straps and then raped the six Spanish women.

Walton said the Spaniards had been "escorted," apparently under police protection, out of Acapulco on Tuesday.

Guerrero state Attorney General Martha Garzon told local media that the attackers' motive was "robbery, and to have fun," and they drank mescal they found at the house after committing the rapes. The lone Mexican woman, who's married to one of the Spaniards, "was saved by the fact that she is Mexican."

"She says she identified herself to the (attackers) and asked not to be raped, and they told her that she had passed the test by being Mexican and they didn't touch her," Garzon told Radio Formula. While some Mexicans harbour resentment against Spaniards dating to colonial times, the Spaniards may have been targeted for other reasons, like their appearance or possessions.

r3ccOs
02-07-2013, 11:00 AM
oh plus mexico is somewhat saying that they purchased drugs from the attackers blah blah blah

yah... mexico is a shithole

only place in the carribbean that i've got violently sick... every time (4 times)

I've been to the bahamas, bermuda, antigua, st. kitts and cuba without ever any health or safety issues

Lex350
02-07-2013, 11:09 AM
here we go again....scary Mexico.

spikerS
02-07-2013, 11:10 AM
yeah, mexico has gotten pretty sketchy over the years. even 3 or 4 years ago, I would go without question, but I won't even consider it anymore. Almost all of my friends that have gone on vacation there, come back with varying degrees of weird and concerning shit. None have come to harm, but one did say he got held up 150 feet outside of the resort.

A790
02-07-2013, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by r3ccOs
oh plus mexico is somewhat saying that they purchased drugs from the attackers blah blah blah

yah... mexico is a shithole

only place in the carribbean that i've got violently sick... every time (4 times)

I've been to the bahamas, bermuda, antigua, st. kitts and cuba without ever any health or safety issues
I've been to Mexico (albeit at 5 star resorts) at least 10 times and have never had an issue. I've never felt unsafe, and I've never been accosted/assaulted/etc.

I am planning my wedding there in May of next year and don't have any qualms about choosing Cancun as our destination.

Thaco
02-07-2013, 11:11 AM
of the billions of people who go to mexico, .001% of people have an issue, and 100% of those make headlines, it's just media fear mongering.

GS430
02-07-2013, 11:22 AM
I'm with OP, FUCK Mexico.

Why would I go vacation to a country where I can barely leave a resort because it's not safe?

I don't want to put a single penny into a mexican economy that is so corrupt.

Tik-Tok
02-07-2013, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Thaco
of the billions of people who go to mexico, .001% of people have an issue, and 100% of those make headlines, it's just media fear mongering.

The media does like to fear monger, however Mexico is just fucked. I mean the VICTIMS had to be escorted by police out of the city :nut:

Canada has plenty of crime too, but I'm pretty sure there's no fear of further danger to any victims, that they need a police escort to leave a major city.

woodywoodford
02-07-2013, 11:29 AM
I'm with Thaco on this one. We only hear the horror stories.

Not saying the place isn't sketchy though. My brothers firm just opened up an office an hour or two out of mexico city. They have somebody who's official job is some secretary or something, but actually all she does is keep the peace with the cartel. I'd be lying if I said I didn't get a little nervous every time he goes down there to train the guys. They have a list of approved drivers to use, restaurants to eat at, all that stuff, and the office is inside a walled compound. A little too hot for my blood.

CapnCrunch
02-07-2013, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Thaco
of the billions of people who go to mexico, .001% of people have an issue, and 100% of those make headlines, it's just media fear mongering.


Billions? Lol.

Mexico is a shithole for poor tourists.

Spend the extra $50 and go somewhere nicer.

A790
02-07-2013, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by CapnCrunch



Billions? Lol.

Mexico is a shithole for poor tourists.

Spend the extra $50 and go somewhere nicer.
lol what a ridiculous statement.

Seth1968
02-07-2013, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by GS430
I'm with OP, FUCK Mexico.

Why would I go vacation to a country where I can barely leave a resort because it's not safe?

I don't want to put a single penny into a mexican economy that is so corrupt.

Given your 100,000 Peso "contribution", we'll put this "corrupt" nonsense to rest ;)

r3ccOs
02-07-2013, 12:08 PM
I'll put it this way, and I've been at nice resorts in Cancun/Mazatlan

Mexico vacation destinations is like going to Vegas... its a crapshoot, its fun and your experience can range depending on what you pay and are looking to do.

but if you're looking for trouble, its much easier to find

Using the analogy of Vegas, you can go to there to catch shows, dinners and gamble... OR you could go to Monaco to do the same

just the latter is not the same, its much better, alot classier, but an expensive experience.

Now I get it that not everyone can afford to go to Bora Bora, Maldives, Dalmation Coast... and the Carribbean is seriously jsut as awesome
BUT to to me, Mexico does not do a good job of repsrenting how amazing the region is...

I'd rather go to a eastern carribbean island, heck even the florida keys, than go to Mexico

but I'm not in for the partying... I'd rather go sailing, diving/snorkeling, and eating carribbean food than get shitfaced, and sick within 72 hours of landing, as most my friends do..

I don't get it WHY so many people go on vacation, to in turn need a vacation from the week of debauchery that is a typical all inclusive mexican vacation.

I've rented large beachfront villa's in these carribbean area's, and even with flight & food, hasn't set me back much more than would it cost me for 2 x a week at Sandals

Seth1968
02-07-2013, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by A790

lol what a ridiculous statement.

How so?

lasimmon
02-07-2013, 12:15 PM
I'd also point out 98% of the people in these stories did something like but drugs to be on the end of an attack.

Been to Mexico 7 times. 0 incidents.

Sugarphreak
02-07-2013, 12:23 PM
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r3ccOs
02-07-2013, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by lasimmon
I'd also point out 98% of the people in these stories did something like but drugs to be on the end of an attack.

Been to Mexico 7 times. 0 incidents.

because the Mexican authorities say so?
but I agree... look for trouble, it'll come your way

cherpintow
02-07-2013, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Seth1968


How so?

Because first of all it's a massive generalization. There are hundreds of tourist destinations in Mexico and you're combining all of those into one place called 'Mexico'.

I've been to cancun, puerto vallarta twice, and cabo. All have been great vacations and there has been no danger. Yep, we just hung out with all of the 'poor' tourists and shared campfire stories about what it was like being homeless.

Seth1968
02-07-2013, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by cherpintow


Because first of all it's a massive generalization. There are hundreds of tourist destinations in Mexico and you're combining all of those into one place called 'Mexico'.

I've been to cancun, puerto vallarta twice, and cabo. All have been great vacations and there has been no danger. Yep, we just hung out with all of the 'poor' tourists and shared campfire stories about what it was like being homeless.

You go girl:guns:

e31
02-07-2013, 12:59 PM
This guy felt totally safe in Mexico, till he was found hanging in a tree. However, the article states that "At least three Canadians have died in the country this year" out of 1.5 million visits. So statistically the odds of you dieing there are very low, but if you do, murder is the most likely culprit.

Canadian found dead in Mexico, reportedly tied to tree ;Nov 8, 2012


A Canadian retiree has been found dead on Mexico’s southwest coast, with local media reports suggesting that he was the victim of a grisly murder.

The body of Ron Lloyd Mackintosh, a 64-year-old man from Vancouver Island, was discovered on Tuesday in Barra de Navidad, a small beach town north of Manzanillo.

Local media reports indicate Mackintosh was found tied to a tree, but investigators in Mexico have not corroborated this and have not elaborated on the cause of death.

Mackintosh was reported missing by his common-law wife on Oct. 22. He was last seen a day earlier dropping a friend off in the coastal town of Melaque, accompanied by his dog.

The retiree’s black Jeep Patriot, which had British Columbia licence plates, has not been found. The dog has not been located either, according to Mexican police investigator Rosario Moran.

A friend of Mackintosh posted a message to an online forum Tuesday indicating that police had arrested three people in connection to the death and are looking for another.

Mackintosh moved to Mexico two years ago after retiring as an inspector with an engineering firm in the Vancouver Island city of Parksville, B.C., northwest of Nanaimo.

Friend Wendy Klettke said Mackintosh had spent more than two decades travelling back and forth from Mexico and was well acquainted with many people in the country.

“He made all kinds of friends down there. He knew lots of people and he felt really safe,” she told CTV British Columbia in an interview from Nanaimo.

Mackintosh had applied for Mexican citizenship hoping to live there permanently, friends said.

His death marks the second time this year a Canadian has died in southwest Mexico. At least three Canadians have died in the country this year.

Last January, Robin Wood was shot dead during a confrontation with intruders in a friend’s Melaque-area home. The 67-year-old auto mechanic was from B.C.’s Salt Spring Island.

Friends say Mackintosh used to live a few houses away from Wood’s Mexican vacation home, and knew him before the murder. They said Wood’s death had inspired Mackintosh to move to the retirement community of Barra de Navidad, where he believed he’d be safer.

Foreign Affairs Canada says the department is aware of the death and is providing consular services to Mackintosh’s friends and family in both Canada and Mexico.

More than 1.5 million Canadians travel to Mexico each year.

r3ccOs
02-07-2013, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by cherpintow


Because first of all it's a massive generalization. There are hundreds of tourist destinations in Mexico and you're combining all of those into one place called 'Mexico'.

I've been to cancun, puerto vallarta twice, and cabo. All have been great vacations and there has been no danger. Yep, we just hung out with all of the 'poor' tourists and shared campfire stories about what it was like being homeless.

life is tough sometimes...

eblend
02-07-2013, 02:12 PM
As an avid traveller and been to a ton of places around the world, Mexico is great. Been to Mexico twice last year, any anyone who believes the negative shit is an idiot. Just like anywhere else, don't be stupid and you will be fine. Every time I went to Mexico I did a ton of activities from Snorkling, river floats, buggy rides, ziplines ect, and was never any issues.

I used to have a very negative opinion of Mexico myself, until I went and experienced it. I am guessing everyone who is bitching about Mexico has never been and only listen to the shit in the media or has the stereotype of "dirty mexicans". It is not to say that it's the safest place in the world, by far it is not, but unless your a complete tool, you will be fine.

As for getting violently sick...maybe law off the alcohold for 7 days straight? I have a super weak stomach and never had any issues in Mexico, and ate like a pig every time.

Would go back to Mexico any day of the week.

Only reason I am not going back this year is because I want to try out some other countries in the carribian, think Jamaica for me this year. Going to the Keys in 2 days, so that will tie me down for a warm climate until a little later in the year :D

r3ccOs
02-07-2013, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by eblend
As an avid traveller and been to a ton of places around the world, Mexico is great. Been to Mexico twice last year, any anyone who believes the negative shit is an idiot. Just like anywhere else, don't be stupid and you will be fine. Every time I went to Mexico I did a ton of activities from Snorkling, river floats, buggy rides, ziplines ect, and was never any issues.

I used to have a very negative opinion of Mexico myself, until I went and experienced it. I am guessing everyone who is bitching about Mexico has never been and only listen to the shit in the media or has the stereotype of "dirty mexicans". It is not to say that it's the safest place in the world, by far it is not, but unless your a complete tool, you will be fine.

As for getting violently sick...maybe law off the alcohold for 7 days straight? I have a super weak stomach and never had any issues in Mexico, and ate like a pig every time.

Would go back to Mexico any day of the week.

Only reason I am not going back this year is because I want to try out some other countries in the carribian, think Jamaica for me this year. Going to the Keys in 2 days, so that will tie me down for a warm climate until a little later in the year :D

I'm an idiot who has never travelled and am the first person who has gotten sick without the aide of alcohol in Mexico

have fun in the cays

Darkane
02-07-2013, 02:23 PM
I went in November. It was great. Cancun side.

Grabbed a collectivo on the side of the highway too. In to town no worries. Basically we did everything you can do there.

Just be prepared and don't do anything stupid. Don't buy drugs. Don't ever ask How much for the drugs either if you're curious.

One thing that got sketchy was we took off the main tourist street in Playa Del Carmen and went walking along. Lots of Mexicans were eyeing my woman and her camera but I didn't feel they would do anything.

Poor third world people, what do you expect seriously?

JRSC00LUDE
02-07-2013, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by eblend
I used to have a very negative opinion of Mexico myself, until I went and experienced it. I am guessing everyone who is bitching about Mexico has never been and only listen to the shit in the media or has the stereotype of "dirty mexicans".

Not me! :)

Been to Mexico, hated it. No desire to go back. If I got a last minute deal to go for less than it would cost me to enjoy a week at home then I might consider it but otherwise, fuck that place.

GS430
02-07-2013, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE


Not me! :)

Been to Mexico, hated it. No desire to go back. If I got a last minute deal to go for less than it would cost me to enjoy a week at home then I might consider it but otherwise, fuck that place.

That's exactly my opinion too.

I'd rather go to Vancouver or something instead.

eblend
02-07-2013, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by GS430


That's exactly my opinion too.

I'd rather go to Vancouver or something instead.

And swim in the freezing pacific?

People who go to these places usually go there for the beach and the nice warm ocean to relax, at least thats the reason I go. Different people have difference preferences, but at the end of the day, the price is usually pretty good, and makes for an easy week away to relax where you don't really have to worry about anything, food is taken care of, transit ect, so people go. I try to take a big trip every year and have been all over the world, and I enjoy it immensely, but every once in a while, there is nothing better than just going to the beach and bumming around all day. First time I went to Mexico I was trully relaxed and it was one of my best vacations ever, and was just as good the second time around (different resort). In addition, the fact that one can take a direct flight to Mexico is also what makes for a better experience than some of the other carribian destinations, as you don't have to worry about transfers ect. I feel like I could go to Mexico this weekend and woudln't have to plan anything, whereas with some of my other trips you got to worry about everything, where to stay, how to get there, where to go and eat, what activities to do, pretty much have to do everything yourself (just went through all this for my Florida trip). I haven't been to much of the carribiean yet, but I imaging it is pretty similar experience there as well, but usually a little harded to get to.

Maybe I just got lucky with Mexico so far, but I do my due diligence and read a few quick reviews before booking, and don't book the $199 7 night special that came to me via email.

Lex350
02-07-2013, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by eblend
As an avid traveller and been to a ton of places around the world, Mexico is great. Been to Mexico twice last year, any anyone who believes the negative shit is an idiot. Just like anywhere else, don't be stupid and you will be fine. Every time I went to Mexico I did a ton of activities from Snorkling, river floats, buggy rides, ziplines ect, and was never any issues.

I used to have a very negative opinion of Mexico myself, until I went and experienced it. I am guessing everyone who is bitching about Mexico has never been and only listen to the shit in the media or has the stereotype of "dirty mexicans". It is not to say that it's the safest place in the world, by far it is not, but unless your a complete tool, you will be fine.

As for getting violently sick...maybe law off the alcohold for 7 days straight? I have a super weak stomach and never had any issues in Mexico, and ate like a pig every time.

Would go back to Mexico any day of the week.

Only reason I am not going back this year is because I want to try out some other countries in the carribian, think Jamaica for me this year. Going to the Keys in 2 days, so that will tie me down for a warm climate until a little later in the year :D


This...I've been going there every year since 2002. Never had a problem. Every second year I bring my kids down with me. We usually stay in Nuevo Vallarta but have done other destinations too. Like stated if you don't act like an idiot and travel with a good head on your shoulders you won't have a problem. I also go to Jamaica each year and I would say you are in a greater risk of random violence there than in most places in Mexico.

It is also important to know where to go in a country. I like Negril but would not go to Kingston. In Mexico it's best to avoid towns and cities near the borders.

Lex350
02-07-2013, 03:30 PM
Not a shit hole.

http://www.grandluxxe.com/nuevo-vallarta

max_boost
02-07-2013, 03:30 PM
Don't know the full details but that's terrible and no one really deserves to be subjected to such a thing.

I went to Cancun for my sister's wedding last May and had a good time on the resort. Only time we left the area was when we went to see the Mayans. I have no real desire to go back. Things can happen anywhere but you just play it safe and go with the odds when in a foreign country. I never questioned my safety and I don't spend time thinking about what might happen because that would just ruin things. I guess if shit hits the fan, deal with it then. It's unfortunate the few ruin it for the many.

heavyfuel
02-07-2013, 03:57 PM
Never been yet, and I am very much looking for forward to it without hesitation. All these Mexico beat down stories all seem to lack one critical element- the victim's behavior prior to the assault. It's amazing how much trouble you can avoid when you're NOT looking for drugs. Anywhere in the world.

r3ccOs
02-07-2013, 04:30 PM
http://www.atlantis.com/default.aspx bahamas

4bier
02-07-2013, 04:49 PM
same shit happens in mexico that happens here.:eek:
no one gets raped in canada
beaten
assulted
molested
theres no gangs here...

se7en
02-08-2013, 02:07 AM
I like it there...but they cross the street when I walk down it lol.

se7en
02-08-2013, 02:17 AM
In all seriousness though, I've only had great experiences there. All nice people, and good food. I'm heading there in a week or so, here's hoping it's just as nice!

cancer man
02-08-2013, 06:51 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/

But i still go there.(I love the culture)

canadian_hustla
02-08-2013, 07:29 PM
IMO Mexico is sketchy as shit.... i remember one time when I was vacationing in Cancun and we had to get a cab. Damn driver took us to the middle of Cancun City (although that was not our destination) and threatened us to buy a timeshare. We paid the fare, got out of the cab and it was a very long walk back.

Also imo you shouldn't drink the milk, one of my family members had a glass of milk on the plane ride home and was sick for 1+ years.

eblend
02-08-2013, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by canadian_hustla
IMO Mexico is sketchy as shit.... i remember one time when I was vacationing in Cancun and we had to get a cab. Damn driver took us to the middle of Cancun City (although that was not our destination) and threatened us to buy a timeshare. We paid the fare, got out of the cab and it was a very long walk back.

Also imo you shouldn't drink the milk, one of my family members had a glass of milk on the plane ride home and was sick for 1+ years.

The cab thing doesn't sound that dangerous...sketchy yes, but you walked away, so no biggie. Shit happens in many third world countries. In Thailand they will almost certainly take you to a jewelry shop if you bum a tuk tuk.

The milk thing is pretty much anywhere, or milk related products. I was in China for 3 weeks 2 years ago, and for the first 2 weeks was perfectly fine, then had some super delicious yogurt at a market.....and my life was not the same for the next couple of weeks haha. I kind of expected it as I knew not to have milk products, but we were at an open night market, tons of food, so had to try it :D

Hi-Psi
02-08-2013, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by r3ccOs
http://www.atlantis.com/default.aspx bahamas

I've had a bunch of friends go to Atlantis and almost every single one came back wishing they hadn't. The idea was cool and all but they said for the cost, it was def not worth it.

bignerd
02-08-2013, 11:28 PM
Plus that canadian women that was found naked with her head beat in, plus wasn't there some couple that had their throats slashed down there in their hotel room? There have been a few other notable crimes against tourists there...

We went to Playa Del Carmen in December. First and Last time we ever go there (and by "there" I mean Mexico)

I was also very ill 5 out of the 7 days we were there. My husband said it was like being on vacation in Texas-humid, and Mexicans everywhere.

I am not a world traveller by any means, but definitely think I will skip developing nations in the future...

themack89
02-09-2013, 02:50 AM
If there is no danger where is the excitement??

Benny
02-09-2013, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by bignerd
My husband said it was like being on vacation in Texas-humid, and Mexicans everywhere.


Mexicans? In Mexico?

http://i.imgur.com/6VeXdT2.gif

heavyfuel
02-09-2013, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by bignerd
Plus that canadian women that was found naked with her head beat in

I happen to have credible information that she was doing something she shouldn't have been doing, when she got beat up. I'd like to hear her insurance company's take on it after paying for a 30k+ med-evac flight home. Plus all the media sympathy she got, is just sickening. Man if we got the full story every time, the "victim" would be to blame 99% of the time.

4bier
02-09-2013, 08:19 AM
price you pay going to another country and acting like a retard
same shit all over the world

FixedGear
02-09-2013, 08:42 AM
I've been to Mexico several times, and while yes one can find trouble there, it's not as dangerous as some here are making it out to be. Of course you can find trouble if you're looking for it, but the same can said about canadian cities too. Actually, of all the places i've ever been, id have to say my scariest experiences were in central/eastern europe.

a lot of the comments above are like "my brother was held up 150 feet outside his hotel in [insert name of giant americanized party resort city]." the problem is that many people are travelling down for a piss up in a party town, and are out getting shitfaced and being rowdy, and then blaming Mexico when they get in some kind of trouble.

Go4Long
02-09-2013, 09:44 AM
My wife and I walked up and down the main drag in downtown cabo with a bag each and a camera, both wearing our wedding rings and the whole nine yards, didn't even get looked at twice.

I agree with what everyone else is saying, if you go looking for trouble in mexico it's easy to find, walk a couple blocks off the beaten path and you'll find it. But if you're there to relax on the beach, or chill out at the swim up bar you'll never have an issue.

The best quarter pounder with cheese I've ever had was at the McDonalds in downtown Cabo...I don't know if that should be viewed as sad or not. When we were done there walked all the way back down the main street stopping in various shops, vendord, etc...no problems.

People are talking like this kind of thing never happens in Canada. Fuck, go walk around down by the drop in center in the middle of the night with a camera and let me know how you make out. Or if you're really adventurous head on down to the the east end in Vancouver...let me know how you make out.

eblend
02-09-2013, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Go4Long
My wife and I walked up and down the main drag in downtown cabo with a bag each and a camera, both wearing our wedding rings and the whole nine yards, didn't even get looked at twice.

I agree with what everyone else is saying, if you go looking for trouble in mexico it's easy to find, walk a couple blocks off the beaten path and you'll find it. But if you're there to relax on the beach, or chill out at the swim up bar you'll never have an issue.

The best quarter pounder with cheese I've ever had was at the McDonalds in downtown Cabo...I don't know if that should be viewed as sad or not. When we were done there walked all the way back down the main street stopping in various shops, vendord, etc...no problems.

People are talking like this kind of thing never happens in Canada. Fuck, go walk around down by the drop in center in the middle of the night with a camera and let me know how you make out. Or if you're really adventurous head on down to the the east end in Vancouver...let me know how you make out.

this...people act like their own shit don't stink

Everyone better evacuate Calgary, hell while we are at it lets generalize all of Canada, cuz people get killed here too. Maybe we should all move somewhere where crime never happens..like...ohh shit there isn't a place

heavyfuel
02-09-2013, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Go4Long
Fuck, go walk around down by the drop in center in the middle of the night with a camera and let me know how you make out. Or if you're really adventurous head on down to the the east end in Vancouver...let me know how you make out.

Wouldn't worry too much about anything anytime here in Calgary, but East Van is definitely a cause for concern.

jdmakkord
02-09-2013, 11:59 AM
I've made 3 trips to Mexico in the past 4 years, Ixtapa once and Cancun/ Mayan twice. I never felt in danger once and enjoyed each trip immensely. I travel a lot, and don't have anything bad to say about Mexico. In the last 6 years I've been to Nassau Bahamas 3 times, Negril Jamaica twice, 3 trips to Mexico and a handful of times to Vegas. When travelling to tourist destinations I believe any incidents that occur are totally avoidable. If you party like a rock star and get white girl drunk, expect trouble. Go looking for drugs expect trouble, and fuck with the locals..... People need to remember you are visiting these countries as tourists, don't act like you are better than the locals.

Tik-Tok
02-09-2013, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by eblend


this...people act like their own shit don't stink

Everyone better evacuate Calgary, hell while we are at it lets generalize all of Canada, cuz people get killed here too. Maybe we should all move somewhere where crime never happens..like...ohh shit there isn't a place

Sooo, lets see a source of an incident here in Canada where 6 women were brtually raped in front of their spouses, and then required police protection just to leave the city...

Benny
02-09-2013, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by heavyfuel


Wouldn't worry too much about anything anytime here in Calgary, but East Van is definitely a cause for concern.

No, it's really not. I've spent a ton of time in downtown Vancouver and the DTES isn't a dangerous place if you just keep to yourself. Very few places in the world are all that dangerous if you're not a retard.

Feruk
02-09-2013, 04:47 PM
I'm neutral. A Mexico vacation is cheap, warm, and the food's OK. Nothing memorable about it but it's OK for a quick get away. If that's what you're looking for, then go to Mexico. If you have other expectations, I see disappointment in your future. All these media stories about how dangerous it is are a bunch of horseshit unless you go looking for trouble.

A790
02-09-2013, 04:55 PM
It's a moot point. Some are going to argue how "dangerous" Mexico is, and others will defend it. Neither side will change their opinions.

Do what makes you happy. Perhaps I'll go pull reports of farmers killing Canadian RCMP officers, people being murdered and dismembered and then scattered around the country via mail, etc... but it won't change anything.

Who's to say people in Mexico aren't saying "AH CANADA IS SO DANGEROUS! THIS GUY MURDERED THIS CHINESE IMMIGRANT AND SENT HER BODY PARTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY", or "HOLY SHIT, CANADA IS SO MESSED UP... THEY ATTACK EACH OTHER WITH PICK AXES!"

... or did y'all forget about that? ;)

Benny
02-09-2013, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Feruk
I'm neutral. A Mexico vacation is cheap, warm, and the food's OK. Nothing memorable about it but it's OK for a quick get away. If that's what you're looking for, then go to Mexico. If you have other expectations, I see disappointment in your future. All these media stories about how dangerous it is are a bunch of horseshit unless you go looking for trouble.

That's my beef with Mexico. Mexico is perfect for people who just want the run of the mill, bring the kids, all inclusive, sit on a beach, cheap resort vacation. I don't travel for that sort of experience though, so I'd probably look elsewhere.

msouther
02-09-2013, 05:00 PM
Go4long, funny but the best quarter pounder with cheese I ever ate was in Acapulco. My wife is from Mexico City. Been there tons, Acapulco 5 times, Ixtapa, Cancun, Huatulco and Puerto Vallarta a couple of times. Always feel safe. If you look for trouble and act like an idiot, you will find it. The quality of the food in Mexico is better than here by far. Way fresher. Viva Mexico cabrones!

FixedGear
02-09-2013, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Sooo, lets see a source of an incident here in Canada where 6 women were brtually raped in front of their spouses, and then required police protection just to leave the city...

say that to the parents of Jun Lin :facepalm:

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2012/07/16/ip-junlin-02906164.jpg

http://www.straight.com/files/styles/popup/public/files/images/wide/luka-magnotta.jpg

EDIT: or, the Brazillian guy who was shot blind in downtown YYC :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2010/05/11/tp-cgy-jose-neto.jpg

ddduke
02-09-2013, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Sooo, lets see a source of an incident here in Canada where 6 women were brtually raped in front of their spouses, and then required police protection just to leave the city...

Such a stupid argument. If you take a bus across mexico do you have to worry about some crazy fucker cutting your head off? Pretty sure that happened in Canada.

Seth1968
02-09-2013, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by ddduke


Such a stupid argument. If you take a bus across mexico do you have to worry about some crazy fucker cutting your head off? Pretty sure that happened in Canada.


Tik-Tok,

I'm looking forward to your debate with this idiot.

Tik-Tok
02-09-2013, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by FixedGear


say that to the parents of Jun Lin :facepalm:



Originally posted by ddduke


Such a stupid argument. If you take a bus across mexico do you have to worry about some crazy fucker cutting your head off? Pretty sure that happened in Canada.

You guys are so right, I totally concede my point that the victims HAD TO BE ESCORTED OUT OF THE CITY BY POLICE, BECAUSE THE CHANCES OF BEING RE-VICTIMIZED WERE THAT HIGH.

You guys are right, I'm totally wrong.

FixedGear
02-09-2013, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok




You guys are so right, I totally concede my point that the victims HAD TO BE ESCORTED OUT OF THE CITY BY POLICE, BECAUSE THE CHANCES OF BEING RE-VICTIMIZED WERE THAT HIGH.


LMFAO, what tabloid did you read that in?

Yea, mexico is so bad that you need a police escort so you don't get group-raped twice in a row :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

max_boost
02-09-2013, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok




You guys are so right, I totally concede my point that the victims HAD TO BE ESCORTED OUT OF THE CITY BY POLICE, BECAUSE THE CHANCES OF BEING RE-VICTIMIZED WERE THAT HIGH.

You guys are right, I'm totally wrong.

I doubt it was for the reason of being re-victimized but it was nice and probably re-assuring to the victims. I can't even fathom the range of emotions they are going through right now.

Graham_A_M
02-09-2013, 10:17 PM
I was talking to my boss a few days ago. He was telling me about a past job whereas he`d travel all over the world checking up on certain oil fields to do maintenance on the equipment etc.

ANYWAY. He was telling me 10 years ago, when down in Mexico he was pulled over by a few people, and robbed at gunpoint of his wallet and all his valuable possessions. Now that is what it is (a serious crime), but the people who robbed him were the police. :nut: Being white driving a nice car down there? Youve basically written your death sentence. The police can just make bodies disappear as if nothing ever happened. You dont really have any voice down there. A lot of gangs have the police paid off so they both dont have to worry.


sooooo...... .WTF do you supposed to do in that case? who do you complain to?
Then he mentioned the security issues in the small non-touristy areas. Basically he was held prisoner in the hotel. White people arent allowed out unless your `transportation` is out side waiting for you.

Thats one of many, many stories Ive heard from there. The corruption is just beyond any words. Its way worse then anything we`ll likely ever see here in Canada, to any degree.


Mexico has always been one of the last places in the world Id ever want to visit. This whole thread just re-affirms that.

FixedGear
02-09-2013, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Graham_A_M
I was talking to my boss a few days ago. He was telling me about a past job whereas he`d travel all over the world checking up on certain oil fields to do maintenance on the equipment etc.

ANYWAY. He was telling me 10 years ago, when down in Mexico he was pulled over by a few people, and robbed at gunpoint of his wallet and all his valuable possessions. Now that is what it is (a serious crime), but the people who robbed him were the police. :nut: Being white driving a nice car down there? Youve basically written your death sentence. The police can just make bodies disappear as if nothing ever happened. You dont really have any voice down there. A lot of gangs have the police paid off so they both dont have to worry.


sooooo...... .WTF do you supposed to do in that case? who do you complain to?
Then he mentioned the security issues in the small non-touristy areas. Basically he was held prisoner in the hotel. White people arent allowed out unless your `transportation` is out side waiting for you.

Thats one of many, many stories Ive heard from there. The corruption is just beyond any words. Its way worse then anything we`ll likely ever see here in Canada, to any degree.


Mexico has always been one of the last places in the world Id ever want to visit. This whole thread just re-affirms that.

Basically none of what you said is true. I live less than an hour from Mexico and have driven there a number of times. Some (white) office mates were just camping there 2 weekends ago. Your boss is pulling your leg, or trying to impress you, or something.

Disoblige
02-09-2013, 10:45 PM
Haha, his boss lied about the story?

FixedGear
02-09-2013, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Disoblige
Haha, his boss lied about the story?

I don't know, but being white and driving a car doesn't mean you're going to die. :rolleyes: and you're not locked in your hotel room, give me a break. Someone is clearly exaggerating here because those things are not true.

gatorade
02-11-2013, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by heavyfuel


I happen to have credible information that she was doing something she shouldn't have been doing, when she got beat up. I'd like to hear her insurance company's take on it after paying for a 30k+ med-evac flight home. Plus all the media sympathy she got, is just sickening. Man if we got the full story every time, the "victim" would be to blame 99% of the time.

We probably know a lot of the same people and this has been implied at the very least. While I specifically did not hear she was doing something she shouldn't have, I've heard so many shady things about the girl and her husband to doubt the media characterization of this incident, specifically that there is far more to it than her just getting beat down from some random Mexican (if that is even what happened).

spikerS
02-11-2013, 03:31 AM
i dont doubt the story.

I went down in 2001 to Juarez to build some homes on a church mission. I wandered off to get some bottled water, and got stopped by 2 cops in a beetle. I had to give them $50 or I was going to be arrested for loitering. I was able to talk em down to $20.