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Gripenfelter
05-28-2013, 10:38 AM
So I've had this phone for about 5 days now and I have very mixed feelings about it. Previous to this I owned an iPhone 3 and iPhone 4 so my review is going to be based on my experience with Apple products. I played with my S4 phone and an iPhone 5 in store.

Construction: The iPhone 4 and 5 feel SOLID. Aluminum chassis and glass on the front and back make it feel very durable. You feel more confident handing it. The Samsung has a flimsy plastic backing held on with tabs and feels VERY fragile. I'm afraid to even put it in my pant pocket for fear that it would break. Taking the back cover off, the battery just falls out.

Screen:
The screen seems dull almost like it's a demo phone with a fake pic instead of a screen. But this is mostly because I'm spoiled by my iPhone 4's screen which is very high contrast and punchy. I should have uploaded the pic before I left but when you lay the iPhone 4 beside the S4 the screen of the iPhone just makes the S4 look dull. When you are watching videos or looking at pics they look more realistic on the S4 but looking at the same pics on the iPhone 4 makes you say "wow". The iPhone 5 is even better because there is no pixilation. The iPhone 4's resolution is noticeably lower than the iPhone 5 and S4. My kids much prefer the look of the iPhone 4 over the S4 because of its contrast.

Network and Browsing:
My iPhone 4 was on the 3G network which was painfully slow for me. Even loading pages on Wi-Fi was slow. The S4 by comparison is lightning fast but when compared to an iPhone 5 it seemed like the iPhone 5 was about 1/2 a second faster despite having a slower processor.

Special apps:
Siri on iPhone5 lags way behind the S4 here. The S-voice on the S4 is deadly accurate for voice/speech recognition. I can say "Text Sandra, I'm going to be a few minutes late because Titan ate the neighbour's dog and I'm waiting for him to poop him out" and it will get every word correct and it will text Sandra with that message. The iPhone5's Siri is good as well but seems like it can't do as much as the S4 can when it comes to voice control.

The S4 has face recognition which allows you to unlock your phone with your face, scroll up and down in web pages by tilting your head up or down, and pause video when you look away from the phone. None of these work reliably in anything but a brightly lit room and even then it's not very reliable. I'd rather leave these features turned off. The hand gesture thing where you wave your hand over the phone to answer or flip pages works again only in a brightly lit room and only if your hand goes directly over the sensor at the top of the phone at the right speed; another feature to leave off.

Video chat is very annoying. On my iPhone 4 I simply click CONTACTS, then click on the person's name I want to Facetime with, and then click FACETIME. It connects and works almost flawlessly as long as you have a good Wi-Fi signal. With the Samsung you have to download Hangouts or some other video chatting program first. My wife has an S4 as well so we tried Chat On and Hangouts (by Google). In order to video chat through Hangouts, which was the most recommended program for video chatting by users, you must first setup a Gmail account and make sure the other person has one as well. I tried 16 times in a row to video chat with my wife before it successfully connected. It kept giving me or my wife errors saying the other person didn't have Hangouts or wasn't available when we were sitting next to one another. We found what worked was DISABLING or DELETING your Hotmail email address from Hangouts and only leaving Gmail there. When you look at the people that are allowed to video chat with through Hangouts it only shows people from my Gmail whom I've ever emailed. NO ONE from my phone contact list which is the opposite of iPhone which allows you to facetime with any other iPhone user regardless of what generation phone he/she has.

Screen mirroring or displaying media from your phone to a smart TV is annoying, slow, buggy, and unpolished. It seems like Samsung just made this feature available because they figured out how to do it without really perfecting it. Apple on the other hand, in my opinion, only offers services like this when they can perfect them and make them bug free. Apple isn't perfect either though. The Apple maps thing is still atrocious.

When I want to save and email a pic from Facebook on the Samsung I must sync it to galleries first and then download it and then use another program to email it. If I want to rotate the pic first I must use a fourth program. With the iPhone 4 (again this is last generation's phone), I simply hold my finger on the pic, download it, then open it up in gallery, click edit, click rotate, click save, click email, done. All using 2 programs and it takes about half as much time on this 4 yr. old phone than the Samsung.

Navigation/GPS:
Samsung definitely has this in spades. GPS navigation/maps, and Google Now...very impressive. Apple isn't even in the game when it comes to these services. I'm really happy with Samsung for these. Works flawlessly and effortlessly.

Bloatware:
This Samsung Galaxy S4 is a 16 GB phone. Out of the 16 GB I have less than 9 GB for myself. So the system and bloatware take up 7 GB??? WTF?? On the iPhone 4 the system and bloatware take up maybe 3 GB. The 32 GB one isn't available yet. I have a 64 GB SD card on the S4 which is nice but on the 32 GB iPhone 4 I never felt a need for an SD card. Never ran out of space despite my kids taking THOUSANDS of pics with it.

So over the weekend I rooted the Samsung which was VERY easy. A lot less complicated than the iPhones. Took me all of 4 minutes as a newbie. mV1csPi8CeA&hl

I deleted all the Samsung and Rogers (my phone service provider) apps. Big mistake. It's too early on and there aren't any programs that work better than what Samsung or Rogers offers in regards to S-Voice, voicemail, and speech to text. I ended up loading a lot of them back in...ugh.

Battery life:
The Samsung Galaxy S4 has a 2600 mAh battery. My old iPhone 4 has a 1420 mAh battery. I'm a heavy cell phone user and by the end of the work day my iPhone 4 will still have 30-40% power. With BARELY using the Samsung S4 the battery was at 15% within 7 hrs. If I don't touch my iPhone 4, after 8 hrs. it shows 99% battery life. Now people will say, well turn off this and that. But why should I have to when I don't on the iPhone?? Forget about tethering or using it as a Wi-Fi hotspot or Bluetoothing. HUGE drain on the Samsung's battery. Bluetoothing or Wi-Fi hotspotting with the iPhone will leave me with 20-30% power at the end of the day (8 hrs.) while Samsung will be long dead before 5 hrs. are up. I've turned off all the Wi-Fi, sync, and other services on my Samsung while employing battery saving techniques and it still sucks way more juice than the iPhone 4 where I do nothing to save battery power.

Overall:
I like the customization aspect of the S4. I like the widgets, live wallpaper, and different home screens. I'm a big Google fan but I don't appreciate it being rammed down my throat. People bitch about iTunes but Google/Android isn't any better. I would even say they are WORSE. The reason I bought the S4 was because I think it has the perfect sized screen, and has lots of neat customization features. I still very much like the phone. I just wish it had a better battery, less bloatware, more storage space, and a more complete OS that handled everything for you so you didn't have to open and close multiple programs to do the same action on an iPhone. I really wish Apple had come out with a better phone to battle with the Samsung S4. The iPhone 5 wasn't really leaps and bounds ahead of the iPhone 4S in my opinion which is why I went to Android. Plus the bigger screen is much nicer on the Samsung. The iPhone 5's screen looks weird and videos playing on it have a strange border on the side because of the off ratio. I don't regret buying the Samsung. Just wish Apple had a better product. Maybe in 2-3 years.

One more thing I forgot to mention...

Samsung Kies Sync/Recovery tool for the PC. The Phone suggests you use Samsung Kies to download new firmware, backup your apps, etc.

WORST PROGRAM EVER.

Tried it some 10-12 times last night. NEVER WORKED ONCE at ANYTHING. Sometimes doesn't recognize the phone even though the PC does. I'm running Windows 7 with the correct drivers. PC always says my phone's name etc. Kies is clueless. Can't sync, can't see the phone, etc. When it does see the phone it crashes during back up.

GARBAGE.

I ended up using Odin. Click, click, done.

faiz999
05-28-2013, 11:17 AM
i completely disagree with ure assessment of the s4 screen. its far from dull and probably the best screen on a phone ever.

everything else is debatable, but i havent handled the s4 enough to agree or disagree.

Gripenfelter
05-28-2013, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by faiz999
i completely disagree with ure assessment of the s4 screen. its far from dull and probably the best screen on a phone ever.

everything else is debatable, but i havent handled the s4 enough to agree or disagree.

I'll post a pic tonight of the iPhone 4 (not 5) sitting next to the S4. Both set on max brightness and auto brightness off.

z2two
05-28-2013, 11:51 AM
s4 screen dull compared to the iphone 4? lol.... stopped reading there. Your vision is obviously off.

jsn
05-28-2013, 12:00 PM
I also disagree. I had the iphone 4s and even my samsung galaxy s3's screen is noticeably sharper with better colour. I can't imagine the s4 having a worse screen. I don`t have a picture of it, but I did a side by side comparison between my dad`s girlfriend`s iphone 4s, and my sisters nexus 4, and the S3 was noticeably better with richer colours.

I completely agree with kies though. I don't understand how they can release such a piece of shit. With Itunes, you were able to do a full phone back up as soon as the iphone came out. Samsung has had quite a few years to work on it, and you still can't do a full phone back up. You can back up some contacts and random stuff like that, but still not a full back up with all your settings. It's stupid little OS difficulties like this that makes me consider going back to iOS. If only the iphone 5 wasn't so damn small compared to even the S3.

And yes, I know you can do a full back up if you root your phone, but you shouldn`t have to resort to essentially hacking your phone just to do a full back up.

RawB8figure
05-28-2013, 12:11 PM
same boat as OP. Galaxy note 2, screen is great, but when I take a picture and send it, it shows up as video and you cant zoom. also tons of apps download themselves, and gmail emails remove themselves after viewing.

I am looking for trade to iphone 5 for my mint note2 with extra battery.

Gripenfelter
05-28-2013, 12:45 PM
The resolution and sharpness of the S4 is better but the overall look of the screen looks dull and the colours look placid. The iPhone's sharpness and resolution is meh but when you look at the screen it jumps out at you and looks punchy. You guys will see later when I post the pic. Give me 4 hrs.

BigMass
05-28-2013, 01:05 PM
never understood the "plastic" feel thing. I want my phone to be as light and "plasticy" as possible. I don't know anybody that doesn't put a cover on their phone anyway. Sleek aluminum just makes the phone slippery and easy to drop. That's about the last thing i'm looking for in a phone. The most important things are specs (CPU, GPU, RAM), connectivity (usb, hdmi etc.) , removable battery, support for microsd and size of screen depending on what I need to use the device (laptop replacement, media player, internet surfing, etc.). Plus the customizability of the OS and Apps. Big strike against Apple is being locked into their ecosystem. I'm not buying anything that doesn't give me the freedom to do what I want after I own it with maximum compatibly with other devices that are not of the same brand

supe
05-28-2013, 01:13 PM
When it comes to mobile screens, it must come down to user preference. I've heard the gamut of responses when comparing the iphone to amoled screens.

Although I too dislike the cheap plastic construction of the galaxy line, let me ask you this which would you feel more confident dropping onto a hard surface? While running across a street my phone jumped out of my pocket and literally bounced and slit across half the street, the damage, only some minor smudges on two corners, I was astonished.

The one thing to keep in mind (which the OP sounds like he knows) is this is iphone comparison vs Samsung, not necessarily Android. Most of the complaints are legitimately valid but they are mostly in regard to the bloatware that Samsung loads onto its phones. My recommendation is to just flash a stock ROM (CM10) which will also solve your battery problems.

rage2
05-28-2013, 01:14 PM
You just have to get used to the Samsung screens (I'm comparing to S3, haven't seen the S4). The Samsung screens differ quite a bit in color temp to the Apple screens. If you're used to Samsung screens, Apple screens look like shit too. Apple's color calibrations (from the iPhone 4 and up) are more accurate. This is comparing to my color calibrated monitors. I routinely use the iPad as a reference device for color previews on edited photos.

Surprised nobody's asked yet, pics of Sandra?

spikerS
05-28-2013, 01:19 PM
I handle all these phones all day, it's my job. I test them till the cows come home trying to find flaws, and work with product development and vendors to solve the issues.

The S4 is a lot of hype, but the screen is pretty amazing on it, and while not leaps and bounds better than the S3 or Note 2, it is a pretty nice improvement, and IMO far better than the iPhone 4s.

mr2mike
05-28-2013, 01:41 PM
What about airdroid to manage your files and stuff on the Galaxy S4?

firebane
05-28-2013, 02:05 PM
1) Apple has patents out the ass for their phones and Samsung can't do anything in regards to styling without being sued by Apple

2) Rooted phones and Kies do not play well together whatsoever! So that could have been your frustrations there. If you need to remove software or restore it invest in Titanium Backup

3) If you are using a Android phone you should have a Gmail account regardless and if your trying to use Hangouts your using a gmail email account anyway. Hangouts was just released to the masses during the Google I/O and much like the new G+ page layout things are going to be buggy for a bit.

4) Being that you got the phone through Rogers they are one of the worst Telcos for dumping crap onto your phone. Check out XDA and you can probably find a good ROM that is very minimal with little crap on it. Just make sure to backup the programs you absolutely want first.

firebane
05-28-2013, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by spikers
I handle all these phones all day, it's my job. I test them till the cows come home trying to find flaws, and work with product development and vendors to solve the issues.

The S4 is a lot of hype, but the screen is pretty amazing on it, and while not leaps and bounds better than the S3 or Note 2, it is a pretty nice improvement, and IMO far better than the iPhone 4s.

The S4 was never really intended for people who had a S3. There are some changes but not enough to warrant it. I have a S2 and when I have the change to upgrade I will be doing so to the S4 because that will be the best bang for my buck.

But at the same time I am waiting because I know there are a few variations of the S4 coming down the line which I am interested in.

Gripenfelter
05-28-2013, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by rage2
Surprised nobody's asked yet, pics of Sandra?

She's my boss. I like my job. Nuff said. :p


Originally posted by firebane
1) Apple has patents out the ass for their phones and Samsung can't do anything in regards to styling without being sued by Apple

2) Rooted phones and Kies do not play well together whatsoever! So that could have been your frustrations there. If you need to remove software or restore it invest in Titanium Backup

3) If you are using a Android phone you should have a Gmail account regardless and if your trying to use Hangouts your using a gmail email account anyway. Hangouts was just released to the masses during the Google I/O and much like the new G+ page layout things are going to be buggy for a bit.

4) Being that you got the phone through Rogers they are one of the worst Telcos for dumping crap onto your phone. Check out XDA and you can probably find a good ROM that is very minimal with little crap on it. Just make sure to backup the programs you absolutely want first.

Tried rooted and unrooted. Kies is crap. Even the Rogers tech guy said to me in a sarcastic voice "Isn't it just wonderful??".

I tried Titanium backup. The free version not the $4.99 version. The free version refused to restore S-voice after I backed it up. Said the operation was unsuccessful. Meh...I'm going to stop messing with it and just use a file manager program like Gemini or Astro to move my apps to the SD card.

Xtrema
05-28-2013, 08:14 PM
The Nexus experience is more cohesive.

The One is way better built.

Samsung AMOLED seems to have saturated look to them.

There seems to be a stock Android S4 coming. There is also a rumored stock Android One. Good sign if you don't like bloat ware.

Battery consumption has been always weak with Android. You either need some apps to control your radio or make sure you don't have too many chatty apps and services.

Disoblige
05-28-2013, 09:04 PM
In Android, if you have the Google Location services on, it will drain your battery much quicker. With it off, I can last 1.5 days on one charge.

Unfortunately, the location services add so much to the phone that I don't want to turn off location services.

K3RMiTdot
05-28-2013, 09:27 PM
i 2nd that kies sucks ass.

however my S4 battery life has been nothing but stellar for me, when i had the iphone 4 it wouldnt even last a day, id have to charge through out .

Gripenfelter
05-29-2013, 08:16 AM
Wife's S4 sucks the battery down as fast as mine.

My brother in law suggested that the S4's battery life actually improves after a few battery cycles and also learns your habits so that's why I'm seeing slightly better performance this week.

Also learned from him that if the phone is on auto brightness it doesn't matter what brightness level you put the phone and the sliding tool is for changing the sensitivity of the sensor. I played with it a bit last night and it looks better than it did before by turning the sensitivity to 50%. It still doesn't look good in bright daylight though but the iPhone 4 has this issue as well and the iPhone 5 isn't much better.

Mitsu3000gt
05-29-2013, 09:22 AM
I have an iPhone 4S and the screen is not impressive at all IMO compared to something like a Nexus 4. Can't comment on the SGS4. I am, however, a believer in IPS > AMOLED at least with the phones I've owned.

Also the iPhone 4, 4S, and 5 all have the same ppi so I don't know how you can say the 5 has less pixelation and noticably more resolution? The horizontal pixels are the same, they just made the phone physically longer.

Xtrema
05-29-2013, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Disoblige
In Android, if you have the Google Location services on, it will drain your battery much quicker. With it off, I can last 1.5 days on one charge.

Unfortunately, the location services add so much to the phone that I don't want to turn off location services.

For me it's Exchange service, it counts as 30% of draw when it's good and 60% when it's bad. It seems to get worse the longer I left the account setup. If I blow the setting away and redo the account, it's good again.

Are there any good app based Active Sync alternatives?

rage2
05-29-2013, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Also the iPhone 4, 4S, and 5 all have the same ppi so I don't know how you can say the 5 has less pixelation and noticably more resolution? The horizontal pixels are the same, they just made the phone physically longer.
I think it's an illusion, and has to do with the slightly warmer color temp of the iPhone 5. When color temps are warmer, you see more detail in shadows, resulting in more "punch" to the picture.

The iPhone 4 is slightly cooler in terms of color temp, so it's a less pleasing picture to look at. When you look at text tho, it looks the same. Just whites are bluer on the 4, and yellower on the 5.

The 3g and 3gs has similar color temp as the iPhone 5, but with less resolution. I was a little annoyed when the iPhone 4 came out and the color temps were dialed on the cooler side, got used to it then, which is fine. But for travelling, I use my iPhone 4 still (hard to get nano sims on the road for the 5) and it's really annoying switching back and forth between the 4 and 5.

Gripenfelter
05-29-2013, 03:29 PM
So I'm at the end of my work day today and my battery life is at 65%. Used it as much as last week when I first got the phone when my battery life was 15% when I left work.

It seems that it's getting drastically better.

As for the screen resolution goes, The iPhone 5 just seems nicer to look at than the iPhone 4 which looks more cartoony and fuzzier. As Rage2 mentioned, might have something to do with the color temps.

I didn't employ any battery saving techniques today either.

Kaos
05-30-2013, 03:10 PM
I agree with you Gripenfelter.

I went from an iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5. From that jump, there was a noticeable difference between the two phones (other than the slightly larger screen). The only gripe I had with the iPhone was the battery life. Other than that the simplicity of the iPhone was on point. It did what it was supposed to do but I wanted more customization so I went with the S4.

This was my first Android mobile phone I have purchased. After playing with the S4 for a couple days I noticed the battery life was absolutely horrible. It prompted me to download an app (Juice Defender) to take care of this issue. I highly recommend downloading it as I'm getting 13 hours of typical use vs. the 7-8 hours I would get from my iPhone 5.

The two problems I have with the S4 is:

1) The screen is harder to see when outdoors
2) The camera's shutter is slow

These two issues are nothing major but to a picky guy like me, it makes me cringe. HA!

JordanLotoski
05-30-2013, 03:23 PM
I just picked up the S4 yesterday, I think its pretty awesome. Very quick in comparison to my S3. Screen, functions ...everything works for me:thumbsup:

R!zz0
06-01-2013, 10:49 AM
Sorry OP not HJ:

Do live wallpapers on android (S4) use data?
I know it drains your battery.

Khyron
06-01-2013, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Gripenfelter

When I want to save and email a pic from Facebook on the Samsung I must sync it to galleries first and then download it and then use another program to email it. If I want to rotate the pic first I must use a fourth program. With the iPhone 4 (again this is last generation's phone), I simply hold my finger on the pic, download it, then open it up in gallery, click edit, click rotate, click save, click email, done. All using 2 programs and it takes about half as much time on this 4 yr. old phone than the Samsung.


I just did this on mine, clicked the picture in facebook, hit menu -> share -> gmail and it was attached and ready to be sent?

I'm an apple hater and I still agree with a lot of your other posts. Apple can get the front end but sucks on the back, where google is the opposite. I went from S2 to S4 only because my Aux jack broke. I miss my S2.

Battery life annoys me - when I sleep the damn thing it shouldn't drain as much as it does. And I haven't found a car charger that will charge the thing. I have a .5, 1 and 2amp charger but apparently the S4 needs to see a certain chip in the charger or it drops for .5 amps. The charger that came with the phone does the job via wall in an hour or so.

My office has i4s, i5s, s3s and my s4 - I like the s4 screen best. I think it has the highest pix density.

Kies does suck balls. Apple cloud backup/restore is painless IF you don't use it to backup all your media. Doing it via Itunes is painful and several people managed to lose apps or media that way.

If it wasn't for Google nav and the media content, I'd probably just go back to a BB. :P

Tej.S
06-01-2013, 01:07 PM
I agree with OP. My GF has the S4 and when I first looked at it, the phone looked fake. It's still a nice phone, but like OP said, I don't like the plastic feel to it. I've dropped my iPhone hundreds of times(srs) and it's lived through each drop without any damage to the screen. I feel as though if I ever dropped the S4, it would shatter without hesitation lol. The UI for the iPhone is extremely user friendly(IMO), and that's what I like a lot about it. The S4 has much more functionality though. Then again, a jailbroken iPhone has endless possibilities. Good review Grip!

shakalaka
06-01-2013, 01:15 PM
I had the S4 for a few days before I left it in a cab and lost it. I've got to say that I did like it quite a bit. Had the iPhone 5 and S3 before that and have been using the Z10 at the same time. It was definitely better than all of those. But I've got to say that I hated the way it looked/felt.

I just picked up the HTC One a couple days ago and I've got to say I like it better than all the other phone's put together. It's super snappy and looks awesome to the boot. S4 had a lot of gimmicky features like the eye scroll but that rarely worked properly. One lacks those things, but I wouldn't have used any of those features anyway. My plan was to get rid of the S4 and get the One all along, of course I didn't want to lose it to do that but it is what it is.

heavyD
06-10-2013, 12:54 PM
The S4 feels like a kids toy. I realize that doesn't mean it's going to break easily but it feels like cheap hardware.

supe
06-10-2013, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Tej.S
I don't like the plastic feel to it. I've dropped my iPhone hundreds of times(srs) and it's lived through each drop without any damage to the screen. I feel as though if I ever dropped the S4, it would shatter without hesitation lol.

I thought this was the complete opposite?!?!




Originally posted by shakalaka
I had the S4 for a few days before I left it in a cab and lost it. I've got to say that I did like it quite a bit. Had the iPhone 5 and S3 before that and have been using the Z10 at the same time. It was definitely better than all of those. But I've got to say that I hated the way it looked/felt.



I would love to hear why you think its better than the iphone and z10. Totally agree with you about the One, its an amazing phone.

shakalaka
06-10-2013, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by supe


I thought this was the complete opposite?!?!





I would love to hear why you think its better than the iphone and z10. Totally agree with you about the One, its an amazing phone.

Well with iPhone we all know the drawbacks of the limits the iOS puts. So as much as I like iPhone's and have had all of them, Android wins on the whole UI thing right away. That being said, when I was able to jailbreak the iPhone's, I did enjoy them quite a bit. S4 just had a lot of functionality right out of the box. I do like the feel and look of the iPhone 5 better though, which for me was the biggest negative of the S4.

Z10 is a great phone for what it is. I still have it actually, but mainly because I haven't been able to sell it. So it's just sitting there. I love the whole swipe gestures and everything to do with the z10. The only negative I have against that one is the limited number of apps in it. It had no RBC or Netflix apps when I was still using it. Again, I guess it boils down to the fact that when using the S4 and now the One, I find there are more things to 'do' on the phone. I am sure z10 will catch up in the apps departments soon enough though. I loved the keyboard on z10, one of the best I've ever used. But at the same time I use the Swype thing on Android's so that's pretty good too. In terms of the looks, z10 feels and looks (IMO) better than the S4.

Finally, S4 had a sick camera. Even though I never really got to see the pictures it took in too much details before I lost it. But I am very impressed with the One's camera as well. I just got back from Sushwap Lake and it took some brilliant pictures, everyone was super impressed. Overall, the only thing I hated about the S4 was the fact that it felt really cheap and plasticy. Also that it looked very similar to the S3 I had.

Tej.S
06-10-2013, 07:15 PM
Pretty much agree with shaka above. IMO, a jailbroken iphone > any other phone.

Gripenfelter
06-14-2013, 08:49 AM
Just an update...

Battery now lasts me 30 hrs of normal use...wow. I use it normally from 8 am to 6 pm. Then use it very lightly in the evening. Don't charge it over night. Use it till about noon the next day.

Video chat still doesn't work reliably and takes 10-12 tries to get it to connect. Other options and features are still glitchy.

Khyron
06-14-2013, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Gripenfelter
Just an update...

Battery now lasts me 30 hrs of normal use...wow. I use it normally from 8 am to 6 pm. Then use it very lightly in the evening. Don't charge it over night. Use it till about noon the next day.

Video chat still doesn't work reliably and takes 10-12 tries to get it to connect. Other options and features are still glitchy.

Mine seems better too but it's still barely making a day with normal usage. You didn't use any 3rd party bat apps?