Finding out how "rare" a vehicle is.

[spikerS]

Ok, so I keep seeing people say things like:

"it is only 1 of 8 in canada in blue with a manual transmission and 4 wheel disk brakes"

or

"it is only 1 of 18 built, and only 4 of them came to North America"

Now people can say this about civics to lamboghinis.

so, I am wondering, How do people find out this kind of information. I mean, getting it from a salesperson for a rare vehicle is easy, but what about more common vehicles, like for example my truck?

I mean, being able to narrow down on a vehicle as common as an F-150 has got to be an arduous task no? What resources are available to find this kind of info out?

How "Rare" is your car?

[That.Guy.S30]

Mines pretty rare, only considering its age. Rust free to boot!

Edit: I am the only factory lime green paint in Calgary maybe Alberta.

[spikerS]

Originally posted by That.Guy.S30
Mines pretty rare, only considering its age. Rust free to boot!

Edit: I am the only factory lime green paint in Calgary maybe Alberta.

But see, my question is, how can you substantiate that claim? Do you have something to back it up?

Or could I make the claim that I am 1 of 4 Race Red supercrew F-150s with the ecoboost in alberta?

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by spikers


But see, my question is, how can you substantiate that claim? Do you have something to back it up?

Or could I make the claim that I am 1 of 4 Race Red supercrew F-150s with the ecoboost in alberta?

That's quite easy for me. There's only a handful of these Datsuns left in Calgary. I know most of them from the Z club and none of them are lime green.

Unless there is a unicorn in calgary somewhere.

Edit: sometimes you get a "special" car that come with a cerificate to back that claim. Example porsche 964 roadster America's. only 400 made and come with certificates.

[FraserB]

I own one of very few modified (to the extent mine is) Grand Cherokees in town.

Mostly this translates to me being one of the few people dumb enough to dump thousands into a 15 year old SUV.

[Tik-Tok]

Marti Report. I think Ford also provides this information for a fee.

[m10-power]

For my lotus esprit I contacted the factory, confirmed only 6 were made in my colour. Three being rhd and three being lhd, I found one lhd in Europe for sale a few years ago and knew mine was the only Canadian car. Very likely only one in NA, although I couldn't confirm that. Best bet is to contact the manufacturer they will know the records, might have some issue getting that info from them, depends on the manufacturer.

I know it's easy to figure out from Porsche or Ferrari, and obviously Lotus. Unsure of the rest.

[ercchry]

email ford canada... ask them how many units in your configuration sold in 2012

they do publicly release numbers... but that would be something like "total f-series sold in 2012"

considering you own the #1 selling pickup... i doubt it is very rare

[Sugarphreak]

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[spikerS]

I am using my truck as an example of a fairly common vehicle to spark the question.

But this is just something that always made me wonder when I hear this type of claim. just how do you know?

[ercchry]

the manufacturers know what they have created and sold... its just a matter of someone getting that info from them and publicizing it

if you look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobile_sales_by_model#F

you will see there is not just one source... obviously the more rare and collectible, the more info you will find on individual models

[95EagleAWD]

Mine is 1 of 14 built in Silver/Black with no sunroof. Of the 690 total built.

[corsvette]

I find whenever there is an enthusiast following there will be a numbers geek who will seek out exact production numbers. Usually through the manufactures archives somehow.

[Darkane]

Can't you use vin, and look up forums?

For example like 3% of white GTRs are ivory or some shit in 2009. White = x% of total vehicles making them like 1-2% rare etc. that's how I thought I'd work.

[asp integra]

for my mk4 R32, there were only 5000 made, only 750 in Black Magic Pearl, so I am 1 of 750.
That being said there are only a handful of R32s in Canada since they were all made for the states making it far more rare. I know most of the R owners in town and there are only 2 or 3 other black Rs in town. (also only one with white BBS! hehe)

obligatory car pic!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/11494_591984174732_821481486_n.jpg

[eglove]

Haven't seen very many other ST's on the road

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by eglove
Haven't seen very many other ST's on the road

That's because they are still on the lots!:rofl:

Just joking!

[GTS4tw]

I think most of these guys who think they know because "they are the only one in town/alberta/canada" are out to lunch. Or who say they "know everyone with this kind of car". There are a shit ton of cars hidden in garages, or are driven without regard for "rareness". There are a lot of people with rare cars that are not on forums, not in car clubs, dont go to shows. I have seen cars on beyond that say the only one in Canada, or say they are one of 4, when I know of a few just in BC. I find it very common to lie about it with JDM cars - "first one imported to canada!!!!!" just pure BS, they have no way to know.

[GTS4tw]

Originally posted by FraserB
I own one of very few modified (to the extent mine is) Grand Cherokees in town.

Mostly this translates to me being one of the few people dumb enough to dump thousands into a 15 year old SUV.

going by this though, everyone on an enthusiast site will have a "rare" car because they have done their own thing to it. Still doesnt make it a rare car.

[CanmoreOrLess]

2011 Acura RL. Rare. 56 sold in Canada. You could break it down into colours (non silver/black), rarer still.

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[Graham_A_M]

Wow this thread is all over the place :nut:
Yeah like Errchy, said, contact Ford Canada. They'll give you a complete break down for your year, along with specific numbers for what options you have (etc).

[sillysod]

Originally posted by asp integra
know most of the R owners in town and there are only 2 or 3 other black Rs in town. (also only one with white BBS! hehe)


Also the only one I see by Alberta Boot. :D

[FraserB]

Originally posted by GTS4tw


going by this though, everyone on an enthusiast site will have a "rare" car because they have done their own thing to it. Still doesnt make it a rare car.

Ok, not rare production wise. But very unique based on work done. Put it this way, I don't worry about it being stolen becuase it would be found in less than a day.

[GS430]

lol I knew exactly where this thread was heading.. :poosie:

[blitz]

If you email Audi, they email back with statistics for number sold, and will even break it down into option groups for you (i.e. 2006 S4 Avant, 6 spd with grey/black interior)

[Neil4Speed]

Wouldn't an insurance company have those numbers. Ie. Getting collectors insurance if a car was ultra rare?

Might as well throw my ring in the hat. Wasn't sold in Canada, one of 1,243 sold.

Also, "rarity" should be considered to be in factory form. If you have a silver 1999 Civic DX with a specific type of aftermarket HID, doesn't make it rare.

[asp integra]

Originally posted by sillysod


Also the only one I see by Alberta Boot. :D

Haha thats me!

[Sentry]

Only around 9500 made from 84-86, only around 300 sold in Canada. :P

And that's SVOs, period. Not "with this colour and these options blah blah blah".

[rage2]

Some manufacturers refuse to release that information. I know with Mercedes, it was really tough to get accurate numbers on how many Black Series cars were coming, and we ended up getting that information through dealers that poked through the ordering system to manually count how many orders there were. There's a dealer that figured out color breakdown in the US, but nobody did it in Canada.

1 of 30 in Canada, 1 of 120 in North America, entire production run. More rare if I can figure out color breakdown. :poosie:

http://www.beyond.ca/wp-content/uploads/adv1-c63-black-series-1.jpg

edit - 1 of 1 with ADV.1 5.1's in Matte black! :rofl:

[DEATH2000]

They made 3,042,396 E36's between 1991-1999. Of those, 515,897 came to North America.

Of the 3 million manufactured: 1,552,663 were Sedans (Saloon), and 487,249 were Coupe's.

180,302 were 328i.

The 316i was the most manufactured with 648,182 being made.


Mine is so far the last one in Alberta, and possibly western Canada in this color. The only other 328i in the same color combo that I have ever seen, got written off on June 5th when he was t-boned.

[Alak]

I wouldn't call my car rare, as I see them all the time. But they only made 1500 1988 10th Anniversary RX-7's. I know the VIN Number before mine is in Montreal, originally sold there, and the VIN Number after mine is in Texas with its second owner. Originally a Texas car. I only know this through the registry of 10AE's on Rx-7club.

Who knows how many are left as I see them now and then being crushed, or parted out.

[JordanLotoski]

My car is pretty rare.

"Gallardo Superleggera has slipped quietly into the night. Its truncated production run yielded just 172 examples – 10 in white, 34 in gray, 37 in black, 45 in yellow and 46 in orange "

There was a white Superleggera written off a few years back, so mines 1 of now 9 produced.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422097_10151642435678384_2073588234_n.jpg

[mgwatson]

Mine is 1 in 1687 :)

[ddduke]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Mine is 1 of 14 built in Silver/Black with no sunroof. Of the 690 total built.

This isn't directed to you personally. But being rare isn't always a good thing and people try to make that claim like it's a huge selling feature.

Not having a sunroof makes this car more rare, but it's not exactly a good thing. Who doesn't want a sunroof? It's a luxury and a good selling feature.

[Rat Fink]

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[Maxt]

I have an RX-7 that runs.. Thats pretty rare.

[Graham_A_M]

^ lmao. I wholly agree.

I used to have a 1990 trans am GTA. It was 1 of 100, with the 5L 5 speed combo.

[89s1]

Originally posted by ddduke


This isn't directed to you personally. But being rare isn't always a good thing and people try to make that claim like it's a huge selling feature.

Not having a sunroof makes this car more rare, but it's not exactly a good thing. Who doesn't want a sunroof? It's a luxury and a good selling feature.

I have some tall friends that would rather buy the non sunroof version of the car for more headroom.

Also, no sunroof lowers the center of gravity, improving handling.

Just sayin'

[Graham_A_M]

You know, its really funny. Back when I was 12, I remember seeing an ad in a classic car auto trader for a '70 Cuda Convertible. Those are stupidly rare, they only made 73 of them in grand total for all the years. Now? Who knows, but I'd be surprised if 60 of them are around today.
It was a full rotisserie restoration, numbers matching and all. Guess how much they wanted for it? $18,500. That was seriously it.
I begged and begged and begged my dad to buy it, since I knew that was an incredible investment, but he didn't since it was yellow, and he hates cars in that color.

Fast forward till three years ago, I was watching Barret Jackson on TV, I saw the same car (may have even been it actually) same options and everything. 440 six pack, manual (yadda yadda yadda).

Selling price? $2.3 million. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I just utterly knew this would happen.:barf: I just fucking knew it.....
Its like, good job dad! That was a small investment 15 years ago that would have paid idiotic dividends today. :nut:

[Cos]

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[rage2]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M
Its like, good job dad! That was a small investment 15 years ago that would have paid idiotic dividends today. :nut:
No capital gains tax either on selling cars! :rofl:

[rp_guy]

Lotus provides a service called the Certificate of Provenance (40 GBP) where they will tell you how many were produced, and imported.

My car is 1/4 Canadian cars (as the elise/exige cannot be imported into Canada), and the only one imported for 2009 (the other 3 are 2010 cars). Of the whole Sport 260 range in North America, it's the only one made in that colour.

And as was said earlier in the thread, there's always going to be somebody who will find the production numbers on the cars. Here's the one that someone did for my Exige:

http://www.britishspeed.com/forum/showthread.php?671-The-comprehensive-Exige-260-Registry


And my Acura CL is also 'rare' as well. While the CL had about 30000 vehicles produced, the manual transmission only accounted for 3500 of the total production. Again, on the acurazine forums, someone has found the exact production of interior/exterior colours and combinations.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

My car is not rare at all, plenty of Lemans Blue 135i with M-sport and other options.

My mom's car, as far as we know, is a bit of a unicorn. From 2010 onwards you could not order a 135i in Bluewater Metallic with the M-Sport pack in Canada, and my parents put the order in before the dealers knew what was available to be built and spec'd but they built it for us anyway.

As far as we know my dad's Caterham is the only R400 model in Canada, all of the others are CSR260S, Hyabusas and slower models.

[Neil4Speed]

Originally posted by rp_guy

And my Acura CL is also 'rare' as well. While the CL had about 30000 vehicles produced, the manual transmission only accounted for 3500 of the total production. Again, on the acurazine forums, someone has found the exact production of interior/exterior colours and combinations.

That is a decently rare car, only made in 2003. I have heard they are pretty good too!

[clem24]

I think the distinction needs to be made between an actual rare car vs. one that just has a rare color and tranny/options combo. Rare car is pretty cool. Rare tranny and options is interesting (but only if it adds to performance but there are times when rare is NOT better, such as the BMW 325i SMG hahaha). Rare color I could care less about.

And Spikers, serious question: why do you care about how rare your truck is? You've got an F150, the best selling car in North America. Literally millions upon millions on the road. It's about as interesting as a Celica Panasonic edition.

[dirtsniffer]

Haha. Ya. And when people say. 1/xxxx produced they should say for the model year. It should be for total production. . Or for certain small options. 'But mine is one of twelve with the grey trunk mat.'

Now if you have a Dakar yellow e92 m3 then I would consider that rare.

[GTS4tw]

Originally posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo

As far as we know my dad's Caterham is the only R400 model in Canada, all of the others are CSR260S, Hyabusas and slower models.

Is it lime green?

[spikerS]

Originally posted by clem24


And Spikers, serious question: why do you care about how rare your truck is? You've got an F150, the best selling car in North America. Literally millions upon millions on the road. It's about as interesting as a Celica Panasonic edition.

LOL, I honestly don't.

It has just come up in so many conversations with car guys how they list how rare their vehicle is, or that they are the only one in YYC etc. I just wondered how they are able to come up with statements like that.

As for my truck? pfft, i know when I bought mine there were 4 more tucks exactly kitted out like mine on the one lot, just different colors. I know my truck is not rare. well, it might be in 50 years...:dunno:

[G-ZUS]

My '95 E320 cabriolet is 1/6140 imported into N/A over 3 years

[Kramerica]

The numbers I've dug up for the SVX tend to hover ~1000 brought into Canada over its production run. For my model year I've seen numbers around 60-80 for Canada.

Like Spikers said I don't really get how people get away with saying they have the only one of a car in Calgary without some documentation. I ended up seeing an SVX sitting on a lawn down the street of where I park mine in winter so I can't even claim to be the only one of those cars on that street.

[R-Audi]

My Audi (2007 Audi S4 Avant Auto) is 1/150 of the entire model for that year.. and thats ignoring color and options.

[soccernut]

I know there are at least 3 more 1st gen Celica coupes in alberta. All Pre 1975.

I am the only one that I know of with 75 GT. I have been searching for more but this is all I have found so far.

[dirtsniffer]

Originally posted by R-Audi
My Audi (2007 Audi S4 Avant Auto) is 1/150 of the entire model for that year.. and thats ignoring color and options.

Is that 150 including manuals? It's true though, not many of those around.
On auto trader people with carbon blak m3s are calling it a rare color. Haha, ya right. It is one of the most common colors. Way more common than jet black.

[speedog]

Rare would be the 1957 Studebaker Commander (with the Safety-Eye magnifying speedometer) sitting in my uncle's garage - most have been long gone crushed and recycled by now.

Rare would be my Mom's 1980 gold turbo Pontiac Trans Am with no t-top sun roof panels - almost all were ordered with the t-top option.

Rare means nothing for most cars unless they become old or if they were rare from the start.

The late 70's red and white Chev half ton that sits in the driveway on the south side of 24th Ave NW just west of 14th Street - tons of them were around back then. Now it's rare as can be and that one is done up as classically can be done for it's era with the hood mounted red plexiglass bug deflector, gun rack, roof mounted chrome horns and the wood-grain vinyl sided topper out back - you most definitely won't see one of these driving around Calgary on a regular basis.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Originally posted by GTS4tw


Is it lime green?

It's Triumph Roulette Green yes.

[mr2mike]

Saw you guys driving up 19th St NW. Excellent car.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Originally posted by mr2mike
Saw you guys driving up 19th St NW. Excellent car.

Haha thanks.

[R-Audi]

Originally posted by dirtsniffer


Is that 150 including manuals? It's true though, not many of those around.


150 Auto, 138 Auto in 2007.

From Audi:

Year Model Sold Units
2006 Canada S4 4.2 AVANT 4-DR 6-SPD QUATTRO 227
2006 Canada S4 4.2 AVANT 4-DR AUTO QUATTRO 200

2007 Canada S4 4.2 AVANT 4-DR 6-SPD QUATTRO 138
2007 Canada S4 4.2 AVANT 4-DR AUTO QUATTRO 150

2008 Canada S4 4.2 AVANT 4-DR 6-SPD QUATTRO 15
2008 Canada S4 4.2 AVANT 4-DR AUTO QUATTRO 8

[clem24]

There were something like 4,500 B7 S4 Avants worldwide. To me though, the problem with a rare trim is that it's just a trim. According to my chart, it's just 'interesting' because as cool as an S4 is, there are also a whole swack of S4 sedans, and then if you look at the how many total B7s (all A4 variants) were built, it's suddenly meh.

So I am with Speedog - rare has to be something that is truly rare.

So on that note, most 'rare' cars referred to in this thread are simply cars that are unwanted by most people.. They sold in small numbers, hence the rarity hahaha. I mean really, only one rare car (in terms of trim) that was mentioned and is truly rare is the C63 BS, where demand outstripped supply. I'll bet many of those S4s sat on dealer lots for a long time.

My Civic63 is 'rare' since it's one of the few 2011s ordered with the AMG pack but to me, it's nothing special since W204 C classes are EVERYWHERE!!! Well that and the fact that everyone on Beyond drives one.

[m10-power]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0h0b8wUIlUs/SSMWgS0IHNI/AAAAAAAAAg8/H6SEzrNiB3Q/s1600/rooseveltA00828crop.jpg

Here's rare, my grandfather's, (now my fathers and mine) before he owned it, 1936 McLaughlin(Canadian made) Buick Special (one of 6 made that year - three for the Dunsmuir Family and three King Edward VIII of England.

With US president Franklin Delano Roosevelt riding in the back on his only visit to Victoria and his first visit to Canada

Most famous Canadian made car (http://www.driving.ca/story.html?id=3fe29444-f10b-4358-9516-378cc957228e)

Probably not many of those around still. Buick doesn't even have official record of this car and they were very interested in the details and vin.

[Redlyne_mr2]

2011 1m, only produced for 3 months, mine is number 66 IIRC. 170 black sapphire 1m's were brought into NA. The cars are still selling for above MSRP years later with mileage on them. I knew it was going to be a good buy when bmw announced the car. I've modded it slightly but I still have all the original parts if I ever decide to make it a concourse car years down the road.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8178/7978067253_8228a5b613_o.jpg

[Sugarphreak]

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[speedog]

170 black sapphire 1m's were brought into NA - does that make it rare?

Yeah, it's a low number but to me it's just another run of the mill BMW - rarity is in the eye of the beholder and if there's someone out there on Kijiji or a forum that can convince others that their supposed "rare" car is such and can sell it at an elevated price because of it's supposed scarceness, then kudos to that vehicle's owner.

Please note that I'm not knocking Redlyne_mr2's BMW but in reality, it only has value to those who desire such a vehicle. m10-power's 1936 McLaughlin - now that I can recognize as rare no less than my Mom's 1980 Trans Am and my Mom's car is rare only due to the fact that it's now 30+ years old and in almost like new condition and the fact that most of those late70's-early80's Firebirds have long since rusted to death or have been crushed. Would I have my Mom's car - no way, it's a brutal car but I can recognize that you will not see one like it anywhere anymore - time has seen to that and time will see a car like Redlyne_mr2's become rare too, even more rarer than it is now. Try to find a 1983 BMW 320i is great condition or even good condition - tons of them made and sold and yet now they're pretty much non-existent.

[gamman]

#41/136 evar made in the world, for three years (whole production run) in the B6 2.8 series.

http://www.virgeweb.com/rage2/images/2013-bmw-spring-meet-calgary-6.jpg

It was more than just an appearance package, with engine, trans, diff, suspension, interior tons of stuff, bodywork and wheels

Web info on model (http://www.alpina-archive.com/?page_id=56)
B6 2.8 /2
Produced
Coupe 42
Limousine 184
Touring 136


B6 prod numbers (http://www.alpina-archive.com/?cat=449&nmt=alpina-b6-28-2)

However if you add up the different engines types then it creeps up to about 250 in all years and engine trans and colour options, But wagon style. If you add up coupe, saloon, and touring, then it creeps up more.

Edit, it's almost up to 1700 e36 alpinas.

Some pretty cool cars in calgary from everyone else!

[danno]

Originally posted by speedog
170 black sapphire 1m's were brought into NA - does that make it rare?

Yeah, it's a low number but to me it's just another run of the mill BMW - rarity is in the eye of the beholder and if there's someone out there on Kijiji or a forum that can convince others that their supposed "rare" car is such and can sell it at an elevated price because of it's supposed scarceness, then kudos to that vehicle's owner.

Please note that I'm not knocking Redlyne_mr2's BMW but in reality, it only has value to those who desire such a vehicle. m10-power's 1936 McLaughlin - now that I can recognize as rare no less than my Mom's 1980 Trans Am and my Mom's car is rare only due to the fact that it's now 30+ years old and in almost like new condition and the fact that most of those late70's-early80's Firebirds have long since rusted to death or have been crushed. Would I have my Mom's car - no way, it's a brutal car but I can recognize that you will not see one like it anywhere anymore - time has seen to that and time will see a car like Redlyne_mr2's become rare too, even more rarer than it is now. Try to find a 1983 BMW 320i is great condition or even good condition - tons of them made and sold and yet now they're pretty much non-existent.
I'm not trying to argue your point but I've never seen a 1m on the road in Calgary and for my job I'm on the streets for about 7hrs a day. My car is 1/2500 for all colors in North America yet I see at least 2-5 different cars a week. Mine car is a 07 rs4.

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by danno

I'm not trying to argue your point but I've never seen a 1m on the road in Calgary and for my job I'm on the streets for about 7hrs a day. My car is 1/2500 for all colors in North America yet I see at least 2-5 different cars a week. Mine car is a 07 rs4.

That's weird. I've seen at least 6-7 different 1Ms up here in Edmonton. They are rare, though!

[GTS4tw]

Originally posted by danno

I'm not trying to argue your point but I've never seen a 1m on the road in Calgary and for my job I'm on the streets for about 7hrs a day. My car is 1/2500 for all colors in North America yet I see at least 2-5 different cars a week. Mine car is a 07 rs4.

As an electrician you spend 7 hours a day driving??

[CTSV]

Friend of mine is working on a 1953 Italian car. (do not know if he would like it spread around so I won't include the make) 1 of 1. He has original pictures from Italian auto shows etc. He bought the shell in the USA a while ago.
He will have it at the July 20 Stanley park show. Unfinished.

For that matter I have a 1 of 1 as well. A 1997 BMW 368i.
It was a little known program with GM and BMW. GM provided a prototype LS engine to BMW for experimentation.
I found it in Texas and am rebuilding it. I might have it at the Stanley Park show as well. If I decide I can afford a trailer to get it there.

[danno]

Originally posted by GTS4tw


As an electrician you spend 7 hours a day driving??

A electrician for the city does. I do maintance on traffic signals and lrt signals.

[m10-power]

Originally posted by CTSV
Friend of mine is working on a 1953 Italian car. (do not know if he would like it spread around so I won't include the make) 1 of 1. He has original pictures from Italian auto shows etc. He bought the shell in the USA a while ago.
He will have it at the July 20 Stanley park show. Unfinished.

For that matter I have a 1 of 1 as well. A 1997 BMW 368i.
It was a little known program with GM and BMW. GM provided a prototype LS engine to BMW for experimentation.
I found it in Texas and am rebuilding it. I might have it at the Stanley Park show as well. If I decide I can afford a trailer to get it there.

You'll be 4th of 4 in Calgary

[DEATH2000]

Originally posted by gamman
#41/136 evar made in the world, for three years (whole production run) in the B6 2.8 series.

http://www.virgeweb.com/rage2/images/2013-bmw-spring-meet-calgary-6.jpg

It was more than just an appearance package, with engine, trans, diff, suspension, interior tons of stuff, bodywork and wheels

Web info on model (http://www.alpina-archive.com/?page_id=56)
B6 2.8 /2
Produced
Coupe 42
Limousine 184
Touring 136


B6 prod numbers (http://www.alpina-archive.com/?cat=449&nmt=alpina-b6-28-2)

However if you add up the different engines types then it creeps up to about 250 in all years and engine trans and colour options, But wagon style. If you add up coupe, saloon, and touring, then it creeps up more.

Edit, it's almost up to 1700 e36 alpinas.

Some pretty cool cars in calgary from everyone else!

Whats different engine and transmission wise?

[CTSV]

Originally posted by m10-power


You'll be 4th of 4 in Calgary

I know the owner of the one done by tunerworks. Then someone else did one on the cheap don't know about another one though. Actually, probably more that we do not know of either. Mine is 4 door though. Most everyone else but me likes coupes.

[m10-power]

Originally posted by CTSV


I know the owner of the one done by tunerworks. Then someone else did one on the cheap don't know about another one though. Actually, probably more that we do not know of either. Mine is 4 door though. Most everyone else but me likes coupes.

We built three cars including the conversion for Rob at Tunerworks, which is now with a new owner who is a friend of mine.

Rob's was a two door and the other two were four doors. Not sure of any other builds, never seen one.

Mines currently getting some major upgrades in the power department.

The combination is amazing, hard to believe it been almost 8 years since I build mine.

When you get yours here pm me I would like to see it. Im assuming its a Vorshlag car.

[CTSV]

I'm working on mine here in Calgary. Engine is Texas Speed LSX 418ci. Spec twin disk clutch and reworked T56. M3 suspension with 7 series dif 3.64:1 LSD. AST coil overs. Goes on and on. Pretty much only wiring to do. I have Speartech custom wiring harness. I did pick the car up in Houston so no rust. I have another 97 from Houston again no rust. That one is a M3 sedan. Both are silver.

Is the car we are talking about the one with the blown apart engine?

[OmgSC400]

Here goes!
I Drive a 1997 SC400 ( 1 of 2261 produced ) and was never sold in Canada .

[haggis88]

Originally posted by gamman
#41/136 evar made in the world, for three years (whole production run) in the B6 2.8 series.

http://www.virgeweb.com/rage2/images/2013-bmw-spring-meet-calgary-6.jpg

It was more than just an appearance package, with engine, trans, diff, suspension, interior tons of stuff, bodywork and wheels

Web info on model (http://www.alpina-archive.com/?page_id=56)
B6 2.8 /2
Produced
Coupe 42
Limousine 184
Touring 136


B6 prod numbers (http://www.alpina-archive.com/?cat=449&nmt=alpina-b6-28-2)

However if you add up the different engines types then it creeps up to about 250 in all years and engine trans and colour options, But wagon style. If you add up coupe, saloon, and touring, then it creeps up more.

Edit, it's almost up to 1700 e36 alpinas.

Some pretty cool cars in calgary from everyone else!

holy shit...i know someone who crashed one of those back home...had no idea they were rare, i thought someone had just spec'd it out of the factory like that