Any other places besides JDM source that sells 2JZ's & 6 speed getrag's?

[Graham_A_M]

Hey guys, Im looking for a turn-key complete 2JZ out of a MKIV Supra, preferably with the 6 speed manual getrag. On JDM sources' web page, its only $2400 for EVERYTHING, but they only come with the auto tranny. I'd really really prefer the 6 speed manual, as that is an absolutely bulletproof, amazing tranny.

Problem is, when I called JDMsource, a full engine/tranny package with that said transmission is now $7400, as they said that tranny is worth about $5k. :( Also, I'd really need the engine & tranny mounts. JDM source said they couldn't get any at all. Without them, I'd go through hell trying to mount it, having to fab up my own engine mounts & brackets. If I can avoid that, I'd much rather go that route.

Just wondering if anybody knows of any other ways of locating one? I searched on ebay, and just the tranny's alone go for $4500-$6k, and an engine paired to one is $8300 or so.



ALSO: does anybody know what the HP/TQ limits of the auto tranny, or even the 5speed manual for that car?

IIRC, the auto tops off at around 500hp or so, the 5 speed at about 800, the 6speed at about 1500. Its been more then a few LONG years since I heard the numbers, but I think their limits are in and around that range... can anyone clarify?

Thanks again guys, I really appreciate your help.

[slinkie]

jza80 is the chassis code for the mk4. you're thinking 2jz-gte for the engine name.

you could try jdm tuners by the casino on blackfoot, i have never had a problem with either shop, never bought a whole engine from tuners though...just smaller parts

edit, maybe if you shared more info about your project, some people could give some better solutions regarding the mounts, someone might have done something similar?

edit, you could look into the r154 trans if you haven't already, they're a lot cheaper and pretty strong

[Graham_A_M]

^ Thanks. :facepalm: Yes thats what I meant... holy fuck I must be tired.

Originally, I wanted to put an LS(X) & T56 borg warner 6speed for two of my trucks, but Fuel economy means a LOT to me (I do a shit ton of driving) and thats a wicked engine & tranny combo. Its not that fuel economy is the reason for this as choices, its mainly that it can put out ridonkulous HP/TQ without needing to build the engine. So, Im just exploring this route. As well as $2400 for a complete turn key engine & tranny is a lot more attractive then $6k, as I can get two of these 2JZ's for the same price as one LS2 & T56.
I think most people would agree, that that 2JZ is a phenomenal engine.

The complete engine/tranny would be going in my '38 Chevy. Once thats done, and I can see what to expect, and I'll possibly put one in my S10 too. (Go ahead and shake your head at something as blasphemous as putting a toyota engine in a Chevy truck, but its getting quite hard to ignore the HP & TQ and ease of installing a TT straight 6 3.0L rather then a NA V8.)


So yeah, I can build additional mounts and so forth, but I would like the elephant ears attached to the block & tranny already so I have something to work with.

[amear]

Buy a supra with a 6speed tranny and swap out the manual tranny for a auto and call it a day(obv it requires alot more work to swap a tranny as you need a tcu and what not), way cheaper than 5k and you may lose 1500-2000$ on the sale of a auto supra.

[DeleriousZ]

I can't help you but this sounds like a very intriguing project!!

[Graham_A_M]

^ It will be, no doubt, a HUGE project. I think I'll start looking for crashed Supra's on ebay and insurance write-off websites.
Im sure I'll be the only guy in Canada with anything of this sort of build.

IDK, Its interesting. Under the hood of that truck is a blank canvas, there is nothing. No Rad, no engine, tranny, mounts or absolutely anything. So Im just contemplating a myriad of different engine & tranny combo's to use. This to me seems like a brilliant idea, for cheap big HP, install and ease of maintenance.

[sr20s14zenki]

Have you considered throwing a chevy automatic tranny behind it?

if so, there is this kit: http://www.atfspeed.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=244

The stock auto tranny is good for around 400 whp, and thats it. It is also electronic so you will need an ecu that can control it, which limits your choices.

The r154 is a great alternative if you can find one. It can do 700 whp as a limit, and they are quite robust. That transmission comes out of supra turbo 1988.5-1992. Dont confuse it with a w58, it has to come from a TURBO supra. Other cars that have that transmission, is basically anything with a 1jz 5 speed behind it. Soarer turbo, jdm supra turbo, etc.....

To make the r154 work, all you need is a 1jz bell housing, 1jz flywheel, and all of the clutch components for r154.

[e31]

If fuel economy is a major factor, I'd put a ZF 8hp transmission behind your engine of choice. I know ZF ships a ton of industrial equipment thru Calgary.

[carson blocks]

For cheap and reasonably economical have you thought of a GM 4.8 or 5.3? Good fuel mileage in a light vehicle, good power, cheap, and reliable. You can get 5.3/4L60 pullouts for $1500 or less, I've seen 4.8/4L60 setups for $800-$1000, and very occasionally a 4.8/5spd setup of which I'll be buying the next one I find.

Your LS2 idea kicks ass, but their truck engine brethren shouldn't be overlooked when it comes to cheap powertrains. You'll keep the nice V8 sound and the power curves will be well suited to a daily driver truck.

[Graham_A_M]

^ I love the LS2 idea, to me that makes a ton of sense, as with minor bolt ons that engine can put out some decent numbers. That T56 is an amazing tranny, as it can handle 700hp/tq bone stock. So with a moderate SC, I'd still be within the limits of that tranny and engine. Its just that, when you want more then just bolt ons, and are shooting for more then 600hp, FI needs to happen, unless I was running an LS7 or LS9, but those engines go for a mint on ebay, and rightfully so. With an LS(X) that shit can get costly fast. Most Prochargers for it are $3k. So I'd be paying $6k for the LS2/T56 engine/tranny combo, then $3k on top of that... So now we're at $9k, Or closer to $10k when the engine is retrofitted to properly handle that SC. Hence the fact Im looking at this whole 2JZ route... IDK, If I can rock an 800hp (or thereabouts) 2JZ with a tranny for under $6-7k, that to me makes the most sense.

The 4.8 or 5.3? I've heard more then a few bad things about the 5.3. Apparently, burning oil since new is quite common. A friend of my bro's LOVES them, although I dont know why. IDK, anything LS to me makes the most sense, as their just about bulletproof. Perhaps I have some more research to do on both the 4.8 and the 5.3.


Originally posted by sr20s14zenki
Have you considered throwing a chevy automatic tranny behind it?

if so, there is this kit: http://www.atfspeed.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=244

The stock auto tranny is good for around 400 whp, and thats it. It is also electronic so you will need an ecu that can control it, which limits your choices.

The r154 is a great alternative if you can find one. It can do 700 whp as a limit, and they are quite robust. That transmission comes out of supra turbo 1988.5-1992. Dont confuse it with a w58, it has to come from a TURBO supra. Other cars that have that transmission, is basically anything with a 1jz 5 speed behind it. Soarer turbo, jdm supra turbo, etc.....

To make the r154 work, all you need is a 1jz bell housing, 1jz flywheel, and all of the clutch components for r154.
Yeah, thanks for the link, thats most helpful. Im surprised to see an old ass tranny like the TH350/400 made to work for a high RPM engine such as the 2JZ. The TH350's/400's are brilliant trannies, as their used heavily with other hot rodders, just because their cheap and their bulletproof. But my biggest bitch with them, is that their only 3 speeds. So unless you wanted the worlds highest RPM's at 120kph, you'd need a low ratio rear end, which can cut into performance a fair share. Cool that they top off at 1000hp though, 800hp I can live with, thats fast enough LOL.
Too bad they didn't offer built 700R4's or 4L80E's. Frick, its such a toss up at this point... rock the TH tranny, or take my chances with the 5speed that they came with. I need to do some more research as to what the 5 speed can handle. I just completely forget, as its been 6 years or more since I looked much into the JZA80 Supra's in any fashion.

For the ZF 8HP tranny, I cant find any place that sells them, leave alone any mounting kits to pair that up with any engine its not currently offered with. The trannies 800hp TQ limits, thats fine with me. 800TQ is enough for me at least.

[MrSector9]

For huge hp I would go the chev auto route, can get a th400 built up with all the goodies to handle that hp for $2-3000...

They do offer built 4l80e's

Supra install specific

http://www.spracingonline.com/store/SP_4L80E_Built_Transmission_Kit_Supra/3620


ur Street/Strip series 4L80E is a great choice for combinations producing up to 850 flywheel horsepower. We offer an upgraded Heavy Duty Street/Strip series 4L80E that is capable of withstanding 1,000+ flywheel horsepower. Finally, we also offer our max upgraded Extreme Duty Street/Strip series 4L80E that is rated for use with 1,500+ flywheel horsepower.

http://www.hughesperformance.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=63