Top Gear Season 21

[n1zm0]

Starts Feb 2!

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[KRyn]

:thumbsup:

[schocker]

Awesome, can't wait, have to watch superbowl first though
Looking forward to the 6X6 though :drool:

[flipstah]

:drool: :drool:

[klumsy_tumbler]

Cannot wait for this.... Looks like the boys are all in top form yet again! :thumbsup:

[pheoxs]

I got to see a longer trailer at the top gear live in Scotland last weekend and was so stoked to see the new season. They had a few bits that weren't in the trailers but I was too slow to get my phone out and catch any of it. Gonna be another awesome season

[civic_stylez]

STOKED!!:clap:

[woodywoodford]

With the time change and all that....what time is the torrent usually uploaded on Sundays?

[cet]

Final Gear usually has it listed about 2 or 3 pm

[pheoxs]

Originally posted by woodywoodford
With the time change and all that....what time is the torrent usually uploaded on Sundays?

Sickbeard usually finds and grabs it around 1pm the last couple seasons. Usually pops up on torrents around 2-3pm

[K3RMiTdot]

woo cant wait

[MGCM]

bout friggin time lol

[flipstah]

What a bunch of yobbos. :rofl:

[Hakkola]

Not the best episode...

[K3RMiTdot]

Originally posted by Hakkola
Not the best episode...

i hear ya, im about half way through... next week is the P1...

[Bladeh]

Yeah not great, I had an 1983 Ford Escort XR3i MKIII so I guess I was the yob at that time :poosie:

[MalibuStacy]

I dunno, I actually liked it

[benyl]

While hot hatches are cool, the whole show was about them. Sure there was the news and the star in reasonably priced car, but isn't there usually a car review with a lap by the stig?

[englishbob]

Originally posted by Bladeh
Yeah not great, I had an 1983 Ford Escort XR3i MKIII so I guess I was the yob at that time :poosie:


I picked up a brand spanking new 1984 and was definitely a yob...loved it.

[busdepot]

Last night's episode seemed way too scripted. I know that the show is pretty heavily scripted, but last night's episode was as if they were reading lines or something. Hope the rest of the season brings back some the random banter and actual fuck ups that make the show so fun to watch. Come on, vinyling the keys? Give me a break.

[MGCM]

so who wants to try the driver switch while driving? over the roof and back in the other side, its easy cmon if Clarkson can do it we can too rite? lol:thumbsup:

[woodywoodford]

Originally posted by busdepot
Last night's episode seemed way too scripted. I know that the show is pretty heavily scripted, but last night's episode was as if they were reading lines or something. Hope the rest of the season brings back some the random banter and actual fuck ups that make the show so fun to watch. Come on, vinyling the keys? Give me a break.

Definitely agree with this, it was pretty disappointing how obviously staged everything was. Even the explosions parts...pretty funny, but not true to the TG spirit, or whatever.

[xnvy]

Can't wait for the Porshuh vs Macca episode!

[flipstah]

That P1... :love:

Also, way to ruin the 4C test with a 'race' and forced drivel.

[KuruptEX]

That P1 did you look amazing.

[Bladeh]

Now thats what were talking about! great show!

[MalibuStacy]

Episode two... awesome

[K3RMiTdot]

Originally posted by xnvy
Can't wait for the Porshuh vs Macca episode!

[MGCM]

great representation of how wide that 4C is, just think, with some healthy upgrades that may well be a spectacular car around a track.

[Mibz]

If it doesn't start out as a spectacular car around a track then it's missed the mark. You can get a Cayman or an Elise for the same money. One is a better GT/daily car and the other is obviously an amazing track car. I feel like the Alfa might be the worst of both worlds, for the same price.

[woodywoodford]

2 weeks in a row I was kinda disappointed. That alfa/quad race was pretty disappointing. but holy balls that P1 is nice.

Something tells me they may have brought on a new producer....?

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

So who saw the Peter Parker lookalike on tonight's episode :P

[MalibuStacy]

Still loved tonight's episode

[pheoxs]

How can you have that much power and be so ridiculously slow...?

[K3RMiTdot]

Originally posted by pheoxs
How can you have that much power and be so ridiculously slow...?

thats what i was thinking.. pos. i always loved the way it looked though... but not in orange

[EF9 Sedan]

I wonder how fast the Zenvo would be on a dry track.

[firebane]

Originally posted by K3RMiTdot


thats what i was thinking.. pos. i always loved the way it looked though... but not in orange



Originally posted by EF9 Sedan
I wonder how fast the Zenvo would be on a dry track.

A car having 1000ft/lb of torque in a mid-engine style car on a wet track? You will never have traction.

Even on a dry road I would say the only possible way of getting any traction would perhaps be with DOT slick tires.

The car is too light and has to much power to be decent without traction control.

[MGCM]

now picture this, a fiesta hatch with the 1.0L ecoboost lightly tuned/modded, 200hp/200tq, getting 40-50MPG, all for around $15K........

[btimbit]

Great episode, didn't feel as scripted. That Fiesta :eek: Would like to see the Zenvo on a dry track too

[pheoxs]

I still don't get why none of these companies try out a 1L 3cyl turbo here in North America in a bit bigger (non smart car type) sized car like the fiesta or up. 65mpg for 15-20k would sell great

[btimbit]

You can get that engine in Canada. Only gets around 40mpg I think though

[schocker]

Originally posted by btimbit
You can get that engine in Canada. Only gets around 40mpg I think though
There is imperial vs usmpg. That is the reason for the difference and minor equipment differences.

[btimbit]

the 40 is usmpg I believe

[flipstah]

I liked this episode a lot! :thumbsup:

So eerie...

[pheoxs]

Originally posted by schocker

There is imperial vs usmpg. That is the reason for the difference and minor equipment differences.

65 imperial mpg = 51 usmpg = 4.3 L/100kms

Still way better than pretty much anything offered here.

[Bladeh]

Liked the Chernobyl part, but they have day trips to that area so not such a big deal like they made out. (Although I don't advise visit right at this moment)

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by pheoxs
I still don't get why none of these companies try out a 1L 3cyl turbo here in North America in a bit bigger (non smart car type) sized car like the fiesta or up. 65mpg for 15-20k would sell great

It was available more or less once upon a time here, it worked out I think judging by the # of these things we used to see on the road, just that the styling and appeal was something only certain people could endure :rofl:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Chevrolet_Sprint_Turbo.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f269/Swipester/IMG_0181.jpg

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New episode is up on final gear

[firebane]

Dear god that 6x6 is just insane! If I could I'd own one in a heartbeat lol.

I'm curious how they did the refilling of the tires onboard the truck tho.

[schocker]

Three cool segments imo, loved the caterham, touring and amg. :burnout:

[MGCM]

Originally posted by pheoxs
I still don't get why none of these companies try out a 1L 3cyl turbo here in North America in a bit bigger (non smart car type) sized car like the fiesta or up. 65mpg for 15-20k would sell great

sometimes good things happen :)

http://m.autoblog.com/2014/02/23/ford-focus-1-liter-ecoboost-only-manual-trans-us/?post=1&icid=autoblog_river_article

[Redlined_8000]

Originally posted by firebane
Dear god that 6x6 is just insane! If I could I'd own one in a heartbeat lol.

I'm curious how they did the refilling of the tires onboard the truck tho.

Its got an on board air compressor.

[firebane]

Originally posted by Redlined_8000


Its got an on board air compressor.

Yes thank you I know that much.

Explain how they filled the tires while he remained in the cab? Most onboard air compressors require you to hook up a hose to the tire.

[Redlined_8000]

Originally posted by firebane


Yes thank you I know that much.

Explain how they filled the tires while he remained in the cab? Most onboard air compressors require you to hook up a hose to the tire.

Its got a air line connected to the hub with a valve??

[firebane]

Originally posted by Redlined_8000


Its got a air line connected to the hub with a valve??

And how the does airline not get tangled up?

[Cos]

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[Redlined_8000]

Originally posted by firebane


And how the does airline not get tangled up?

Could be many ways to do this. Id imagine air pressures up through the wheel hub itself which is built into the wheel.... Few automatic shut off and bleed down valves. piece of cake... :dunno:


edit: or that ^^^

[firebane]

Its called CTIS: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/self-inflating-tire2.htm

[klumsy_tumbler]

That Caterham was gorgeous... REALLY dislike the new one though. It looked like a bar of soap IMO :dunno:

[xnvy]

Tonight's episode was nice. Didn't understand the point of the bicycle section but it was pretty entertaining nonetheless.

[pheoxs]

Yeah, just annoyed still no porsche vs p1, I thought on the P1 episode they said when they ran the porsche they'd compare them but I guess just building more suspense. They've probably already done both laps but just waiting to toss it into the last ep of this series.

[flipstah]

Originally posted by xnvy
Tonight's episode was nice. Didn't understand the point of the bicycle section but it was pretty entertaining nonetheless.

+1. I especially thought the hot hatchback segment was neat to see.

[K3RMiTdot]

tonights episode was fantastic. i want that 918... gawdd so awesome

[firebane]

Originally posted by xnvy
Tonight's episode was nice. Didn't understand the point of the bicycle section but it was pretty entertaining nonetheless.

LOL Jeremy has been on a bicycle kick the entire show. Not sure why either myself but it does make for some good entertainment.

And that Porsche .. holy crap.. 500ft/lb of torque at 800rpm? :nut:

[woodywoodford]

Originally posted by pheoxs
Yeah, just annoyed still no porsche vs p1, I thought on the P1 episode they said when they ran the porsche they'd compare them but I guess just building more suspense. They've probably already done both laps but just waiting to toss it into the last ep of this series.

But then they specified june/july.... I'm guessing they couldn't get the porsche to their test track (hence filming that bit in abu dabi or wherever that was)

[dino_martini]

If money was no object I'd buy a Porsche 918. I'd probably also make a trip to Abu Dhabi it seems.

[klumsy_tumbler]

I quite enjoyed tonight's episode. I'm a little disappointed that they didn't test the A45 though... I realize that's because it was out of the price-range of the others, but could they not have just tested it against a Golf R instead of the GTI? (Also, price-range has never seemed to stop them before...)

Also, I thouroughly enjoyed Jeremy's digs at Piers Morgan (does everybody remember that hilarious twitter fight?) :poosie:

[benyl]

I know it is an entertainment show, but the hot hatchback section was dumb.

Discount the A45 because it is too expensive? Yet they tested the Zenvo a few weeks ago.

Jeremy spins because the rears are all worn out from all the dorifto he was doing with the car. Of course it is going to hydroplane out of control. That segment shows why getting a flat / losing control of the rear at speed is more dangerous than losing the front.

So Jeremy spins, because his rears are worn out so that automatically makes the M135 worse than the GTI?

[rage2]

Originally posted by pheoxs
Yeah, just annoyed still no porsche vs p1, I thought on the P1 episode they said when they ran the porsche they'd compare them but I guess just building more suspense. They've probably already done both laps but just waiting to toss it into the last ep of this series.
They're just waiting for Porsche to sell all 918 copies of the 918 before allowing a comparison. If they aired a comparo last night, they'd be stuck with a lot of orders lol.

Seriously tho, it sounded like the P1 vs 918 is going to be more than a stig hot lap. Sounds like a full on special.

[beyond_ban]

Originally posted by woodywoodford


But then they specified june/july.... I'm guessing they couldn't get the porsche to their test track (hence filming that bit in abu dabi or wherever that was)

Didn't they have a 918 in the studio? I can't remember for sure, but I thought they had one sitting inside.

But like Rage said, looks like they want to do a special based entirely on the 918 and P1. If only they could get a LaFerrari involved too.

[rage2]

The LaFerrari hasn't even started production, it's been delayed over a year already. My guess is all the powertrain engineers have been reassigned to the F1 power unit project.

Now that the F1 PUs are locked down on specs, we should hear news of resumed work on the LaFerrari shortly.

[flipstah]

Originally posted by rage2
Seriously tho, it sounded like the P1 vs 918 is going to be more than a stig hot lap. Sounds like a full on special.

I got the same vibe too. Probably have reps talk about the technology and then have a cruise somewhere to showcase the cars. Then do the hot lap with the Stig behind the wheel.

:thumbsup: :bigpimp:

[beyond_ban]

I wonder what's powering the LaFerrari's that have been spotted cruising around Monte Carlo. They are aiming for a hybrid power plant as well, right?

[b_t]

Originally posted by beyond_ban
I wonder what's powering the LaFerrari's that have been spotted cruising around Monte Carlo. They are aiming for a hybrid power plant as well, right?

not the same as the others though. The LaFerrari motor will never shut off because the V12 is so key to the Ferrari experience.

[Bladeh]

Probably waiting for better weather to run a ahead to ahead comparison of the P1 v 918, personally I like the back end of the 918 and the front of the P1.....

Like others mentioned why rule out a car because of price? must be some other reason like MB don't want Jennifer driving it.

[pheoxs]

I'm assuming it was just CG and the 918 doesn't actually shoot blue flames out its exhausts (even if it doesn't that exhaust setup is gorgeous)

[962 kid]

Originally posted by pheoxs
I'm assuming it was just CG and the 918 doesn't actually shoot blue flames out its exhausts (even if it doesn't that exhaust setup is gorgeous)

Why wouldn't it?

[MGCM]

lets take a vote, which one will perform the fastest lap time on top gears track? 918? or the P1?

[benyl]

Originally posted by 962 kid


Why wouldn't it?

Cause that would mean the car is either running without cats or running super rich. Both are bad for emissions.

But you should know that.

I am sure the flames are real.

[rage2]

Originally posted by benyl
Cause that would mean the car is either running without cats or running super rich. Both are bad for emissions.

But you should know that.

I am sure the flames are real.
Rear/mid engine cars burn off fuel more often than front engines cars, short exhaust lengths leads to much higher outlet temps. That and Abu Dhabi at night really exaggerates the effect. Flames that you don't see in the day show up at night. Really obvious in F1 races.

[962 kid]

Originally posted by benyl


Cause that would mean the car is either running without cats or running super rich. Both are bad for emissions.

But you should know that.

I am sure the flames are real.

The flames are the result of a fueling strategy employed to keep the catalyst safe from elevated EGTs combined with a very short exhaust system. I do know that. I was just curious why he thought the 918 wouldn't shoot flames when the P1 and Aventador do...

[J-D]

:rofl: @ the Bicycle stuff.

I didn't even skip the star in a reasonably priced car this week.

[firebane]

Originally posted by J-D
:rofl: @ the Bicycle stuff.

I didn't even skip the star in a reasonably priced car this week.

LOL and what car do you drive.

"1965 Shelby Cobra"

... studio is silent ...

[MGCM]

anyone watch tonights episode yet?

[Mibz]

They're all tweeting that Part 1 is okay, but Part 2 is possibly the best TG they've ever done.

Poor form elevating expectations like that :P

[firebane]

Ahh so many laughs and facepalm moments tonight.

Those boys are definitely crazy and it probably is but sometimes things just feel far too overscripted.

[asp integra]

Originally posted by MGCM
lets take a vote, which one will perform the fastest lap time on top gears track? 918? or the P1?


P1 all the way

[flipstah]

Originally posted by MGCM
lets take a vote, which one will perform the fastest lap time on top gears track? 918? or the P1?

That much power on two wheels is definitely going to be a handful but the Huayra is RWD and it's up the top of the leaderboard. I'm leaning towards the P1 because two cars (including the Huayra; other is the MP4-12C) in the top 5 are RWD with the Aventador (AWD) placing 5th.*

*Didn't count the BAC Mono and the Atom V8.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Top_Gear_test_track_Power_Lap_Times

[rage2]

Originally posted by flipstah
That much power on two wheels is definitely going to be a handful[/url]
With how much downforce the P1 makes, I'll bet it'll be relatively easy to drive.

[K3RMiTdot]

i really want the 918 to win, but i know the P1 will most likely win

[firebane]

Originally posted by flipstah


That much power on two wheels is definitely going to be a handful but the Huayra is RWD and it's up the top of the leaderboard. I'm leaning towards the P1 because two cars (including the Huayra; other is the MP4-12C) in the top 5 are RWD with the Aventador (AWD) placing 5th.*

*Didn't count the BAC Mono and the Atom V8.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Top_Gear_test_track_Power_Lap_Times

They were saying that with the amount of downforce the car has it would rip its back end apart if the rear wing didn't adjust.

2 wheels with that much power? No problemo.

[Redlined_8000]

I think P1 for sure will win. The only advantage the porsche has is the AWD. If the P1 can get the power down it will do it. Also the P1 looks WAY better than the porsche so im rooting for it.

[flipstah]

Originally posted by rage2

With how much downforce the P1 makes, I'll bet it'll be relatively easy to drive.



Originally posted by firebane


They were saying that with the amount of downforce the car has it would rip its back end apart if the rear wing didn't adjust.

2 wheels with that much power? No problemo.

Koeingsegg made a huge difference on the lap once the Top Gear wing was added so I have no doubt the P1 can do it.

[b_t]

both the 918 and P1 will set new lap records but P1 is going to take it overall

[MGCM]

reviews on tonights episode?

[firebane]

Originally posted by MGCM
reviews on tonights episode?

Mostly comedic fill but still good.

[Bladeh]

Black Cock with Red Cock and some White Spirit thrown in!

[klumsy_tumbler]

I was actually REALLY impressed with the bridge they built. James must've been in heaven with a task like that haha

[schocker]

The best part for me was whenever they went in the river, the camera would turn around and they had been swept super far away :rofl:

[n1zm0]

Northern Burma seems like really beautiful place for sure. Loved them partying with the Shan State Army, even if it was with the United Wa State or Kachin Armies, BBC would make them look good anyways since no one cares for the new Burmese government even if they are a little more lax now.

I'm surprised that Hino broke down so much, those things are usually tough as bricks in my experience, the ones sold here and in Asia.