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16hypen3sp
04-02-2014, 08:59 PM
Any know make/model?

Must be a new project for the guy hauling it. Should be quite the cool looking car when its all said and done.
I wish I had a pic of the rear end tho. Very unique looking thing.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/manandmachinex411/photo_zps2303836f.jpg

AndyL
04-02-2014, 09:07 PM
gah... what is it... Not opel gt... but along those lines...

SpeedyZ
04-02-2014, 09:08 PM
lotus europa maybe, looks heavily modified if thats what it was

AndyL
04-02-2014, 09:11 PM
no... europa's totally different front and back

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_46

spikerS
04-02-2014, 09:12 PM
fuck, something about that car screams at me like I should know what it is.

I see the late 70's stingray in it, Alpha Romeo, the headlights scream porsche...

I give up, but I swear to god I know it, I just can't fucking recall it.

BMDUBS
04-02-2014, 09:13 PM
Judging from the wheels it is a VW based kit car...?

AndyL
04-02-2014, 09:16 PM
like spikers - I know this car - just can't place the name... pretty sure it's a production model.

spikerS
04-02-2014, 09:24 PM
I really want to say it is a GSM Flamingo, but it is not quite there, I wish I was more familiar with the car, or we had more pics of the back...

http://www.muamat.com/adpics/512ee7d38a08642fa412e7ffe.jpg

It really does look like one that they tried to make into a shooting brake.

rob the knob
04-02-2014, 09:28 PM
GP? not GP CENTRON, maybe similar model

Graham_A_M
04-02-2014, 09:34 PM
Wow, good luck finding after market rims for that thing, Odd bolt pattern is in fact odd. :nut:

spikerS
04-02-2014, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Graham_A_M
Wow, good luck finding after market rims for that thing, Odd bolt pattern is in fact odd. :nut:

I know, I have been staring at that too.

Rat Fink
04-02-2014, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by BMDUBS
Judging from the wheels it is a VW based kit car...?

I really think BMDUBS is right....those seem like vintage VW wheels.

Look up "VW bus wheels" on google images and you'll see the same wheels.

BMDUBS
04-02-2014, 09:39 PM
Invader GT kit car variant?

I give up, Its ugly as fuck though hahaha

Graham_A_M
04-02-2014, 09:40 PM
Word, Ive never seen that before, asides from some of the abominations to come out of Russia or the like....
Originally posted by spikers
I really want to say it is a GSM Flamingo, but it is not quite there, I wish I was more familiar with the car, or we had more pics of the back...

http://www.muamat.com/adpics/512ee7d38a08642fa412e7ffe.jpg

It really does look like one that they tried to make into a shooting brake.

No, none of the lines match up, its all the small things, it couldnt of been that to start with, you may as well just make a whole new car for how much shit is different between the two. Interesting, Im quite curious as to what this thing really is. That hub bolt pattern tells me its very much eastern European, but where and what exactly is beyond me.

rob the knob
04-02-2014, 09:47 PM
similar to DEVID D?



as other say, yes VW wheel pattern

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/plugins/PostviaEmail/images/1960_Devin_D_Porsche_356_For_Sale_Front_resize.jpg

jacx
04-02-2014, 09:55 PM
pretty sure it is an Invader GT5 kit car built on a 70's VW Beetle chassis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc8ljIfi1WU

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2166868

rob the knob
04-02-2014, 09:57 PM
time for work. maybe some one post answer when back.

rob knows car, not this car.

kit, yes.

round window in c pillar is unique.
plus ttops, one wiper, odd doors - two piece?, and is that towing light on back panel of auto or something attached to car permanent?

spikerS
04-02-2014, 09:57 PM
yeah, after searching more, my vote is that it is a Vokaro.

http://vwnettet.dk/bb-media/pictures/6/8/85886/vokaro.jpg

and if it is, then I had no idea, and retract my previous statements.

AndyL
04-02-2014, 10:15 PM
front end is definitely invader GT...

I know this car - it was in the back lot at the MG shop forever... It's killing me...

thrasher22
04-02-2014, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Rat Fink


I really think BMDUBS is right....those seem like vintage VW wheels.

Look up "VW bus wheels" on google images and you'll see the same wheels.

That got me thinking (I have a bus), and those look more like beetle rims to me, so 100% a kit car IMO.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=545978

DeeK
04-03-2014, 01:06 AM
Top gear does a little bit in one of their shows about this car.... season 5 or something. I can't remember the name of it for the life of me....

93VR6
04-03-2014, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by DeeK
Top gear does a little bit in one of their shows about this car.... season 5 or something. I can't remember the name of it for the life of me....

That's a Probe 16 from the movie clockwork orange, follow this link.

http://jalopnik.com/5670683/probe-16-from-a-clockwork-orange-restored-to-horrorshow-new/all

I have been looking around for a while now and still have no idea what this car could be, it seems to share some characteristics with Devin sports cars but that porthole window isn't on any of them.

max_boost
04-03-2014, 06:13 AM
Lol what is this????

16hypen3sp
04-03-2014, 07:18 AM
I guess my girlfriend got a pic of the rear end of this thing:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/manandmachinex411/photo_zps297a42a2.jpg

ExtraSlow
04-03-2014, 07:55 AM
I like the poster above who says it's a beetle kit car.
Some kind of craptastic fibreglass body over a homebuilt tube frame. Probably very unsafe, and super fun.

Mista Bob
04-03-2014, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by max_boost
Lol what is this????

Smart Roadster.

quick_scar
04-03-2014, 08:16 AM
^^Mista bob beat me to it.

n1zm0
04-03-2014, 08:44 AM
DeathBy240 made a post about this thing on the Elan forum (I was following his Elan build thread) last year, definitely a kit car but probably a modification of a kit, an extensive modification I guess or just a more rare of a kit:


Someone tipped me off that there was a Lotus Europa for sale, sitting oddly on top of an old shipping container in Calgary, Canada - Stu Gilmour's neck of the woods. The guy who told me about it didn't know anything about the car other than that he spotted it when he was in the industrial area. I used my detective skills and based on Google Street View, tracked the owner of the car down. He doesn't actually know much about the car, other than it doesn't run. He said he didn't know what a Lotus Europa was, but the car he had was in fact a Volkswagen Manta kit car. I looked up the Manta and it looks nothing like this car.

He said the body is totally fiberglass and the underside of the car has also been entirely glassed in. He also said a previous owner had tried, unsuccessfully, to make the doors open gullwing style. To me, that front looks very Europa-like. The rear wheel arches definitely don't look like a regular Europa though.

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/9530/c4ip.png

Did someone make a Europa knock off based on a VW platform? Any other theories?

Maybe I'll have to ask Stu if he'll go on a mission for me, as I'm a three-hour drive away.

http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/free-parking-f45/europa-kit-car-t29614.html


Here's where it used to live. (http://goo.gl/maps/TjHxW)

16hypen3sp
04-03-2014, 09:09 AM
^ hahaha. wow. so is that car still there or did I spot it on a trailer in Red Deer?

n1zm0
04-03-2014, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by 16hypen3sp
^ hahaha. wow. so is that car still there or did I spot it on a trailer in Red Deer?

streetview pic was taken in June 2012, so safe to assume someone bought it and it was on that trailer.

16hypen3sp
04-03-2014, 11:42 AM
So this is a VW kit car then. Any particular model name with it or is it just like a "Frankenstein car"?

I have to say, if it indeed is for restoration, that car would look pretty cool after.

Tik-Tok
04-03-2014, 11:48 AM
Maybe it's a custom one-off, built by Arash's dad?

DeeK
04-03-2014, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by 93VR6


That's a Probe 16 from the movie clockwork orange, follow this link.

http://jalopnik.com/5670683/probe-16-from-a-clockwork-orange-restored-to-horrorshow-new/all

I have been looking around for a while now and still have no idea what this car could be, it seems to share some characteristics with Devin sports cars but that porthole window isn't on any of them.

No, not the clockwork orange car. :banghead:

The one I was thinking of was a Lotus 62 prototype europa. But it's still not right.


http://www.lotuseuropa.org/LotusForum/index.php?topic=458.0

Seems we're not the only ones trying to figure out this car.

ercchry
04-03-2014, 02:48 PM
i knew surfing kijiji would come in handy one day :rofl:

http://i.imgur.com/R0UTbsI.png

wow, 6 made in total, in lethbridge of all places

http://priceofhistoys.com/category/sportee-monno-gt/

01RedDX
04-03-2014, 03:01 PM
^ BINGO http://www.allcarindex.com/auto-car-model/Canada-Sportee-Monno-GT/

ercchry
04-03-2014, 03:11 PM
more info:


Tonight as I cruised Kijiji I found an ad that offered $1000 bucks for info on a kit car made here in Alberta. Race car? Alberta? Wha? So I started digging. Picture dump of car at end.

The car in question is a Monno Sportee Gt kit car made by Silverstar Industries during the 60's. The design is Lotus Europa-esque based and was powered by a VW motor. The thing is that it was produced (1964) before the first Europa in 1966. There was only 5 (possibly 6) produced and a prototype that has also apparently vanished. The car was designed for ice/road racing and it also won a scca road race championship in Montana being driven by Ted Mrochen. Lethbridge Sports Car Club's Facebook had a post from someone who looked like they may be selling one but I am not yet able to track down that person. The most info I could find on it was a Lotus Europa fan club blog that someone has seen one in Streetview and ended up going to purchase it.

Now for the possible 6 cars some can be accounted for but the molds were sold off when the company folded and apparently they were used in another VW kit car. After more searching it appears that Beaujangle Industries imported a car from the US to England that is almost identical to the Monno Sportee that also only had a short production run. This only adds to the mystery.

Any Oppo's know more info on this? There was a forum post of someone in Edmonton who seemed to think it could be one under a tarp at a rental property.


http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-tale-of-the-lethbridge-alberta-canada-kit-car-1557302299

Graham_A_M
04-03-2014, 06:04 PM
Wow, SUCH a rare car just sitting on top of a sea can in the industrial district. Nuts really. :eek:

Quite the find.

Penguin_Racecar
04-03-2014, 08:18 PM
So it's been tracked down! Someone from NASCC was looking for this exact car - I have a feeling he's the one towing the car. Someone in AB used to campaign this for road racing if I recall the history correctly - pretty sure the car I'm talking about is the one used for the Kijiji wanted ad.

16hypen3sp
04-04-2014, 09:52 AM
Hahaha... wow! This is so cool! I guess I laid my eyes on a piece of Alberta automotive history. I'm happy I got pics and posted them.

Like Graham said... I can't believe it's that rare and it was just sitting up on a sea can.

Rat Fink
04-04-2014, 08:34 PM
DAMN! I just saw the Kijiji ad and came running to this thread to post about it! haha