Car Proof WTF!?

[Cueman]

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So I'm planning on picking a truck up tomorrow. It's an 05 Power Wagon. I did a Car Proof, which came up with 2 liens.

The first is attached to the current owner. He was upfront and told me that it might be there, but had just paid the truck off in full this Thursday. I asked for a letter from his bank to confirm, and he supplied that today.

The second lien is a surprise though... especially because it supposedly belongs to a Chevrolet Avalanche with the same VIN. It's impossible that they have the same VIN though... so WTF. The VIN I have is a good VIN confirmed with various sources as belonging to a Dodge Power Wagon... not a Chevrolet Avalanche...

I called ATB FWIW and they wouldn't tell me shit.

[Cueman]

Double post WTF!

[16hypen3sp]

:rofl:

What a joke those things are. I gave up on those a long time ago.

Maybe somebody input the wrong number or something... god only knows.

[spikerS]

or possibly this is a swapped VIN.

I know some theft rings will swap VINs around from one vehicle to another to make a stolen vehicle appear legit.

Could just be clerical error though.

[Masked Bandit]

I don't think it will move anything further but I can also verify that the VIN listed is 100% for a 2005 Dodge Ram 2500. If you get this figured out let us know.

[Cueman]

Originally posted by Masked Bandit
I don't think it will move anything further but I can also verify that the VIN listed is 100% for a 2005 Dodge Ram 2500. If you get this figured out let us know.

Thanks. I pulled shoot on the deal, not being able to sort it out on the weekend. Hopefully will figure it out on Monday, and purchase the truck without any concerns.

[pheoxs]

If I'm reading it correctly it means this:

He (or a previous owner) used the vehicle you are buying AS collateral to buy the Chevrolet avalanche. (Or maybe vice versa the Avalanche was used to buy this thing)



I had a similar thing with my FD, the guy had temporarily used his cars as collateral to consolidate his mortgage into a LoC or something and they hadn't fully removed the notice off the vehicles. I contacted him, he contacted his bank and sorted it out, they removed it and sent a letter saying it was cleared up 3 years prior and now removed from the history.

[Kloubek]

Originally posted by pheoxs
If I'm reading it correctly it means this:

He (or a previous owner) used the vehicle you are buying AS collateral to buy the Chevrolet avalanche. (Or maybe vice versa the Avalanche was used to buy this thing)


I agree. That's what it looks like to me too.

[googe]

How do you even verify those letters? Anyone who wanted to scam you that way could easily fake a letter.

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by googe
How do you even verify those letters? Anyone who wanted to scam you that way could easily fake a letter.

With the last two used cars I purchased that had a lien, I went with the seller to his bank and they paid out the loan with my money order first before he got the remainder. They provided a letter on the spot. This would be pain to do if there's more than one lien.

[Cueman]

The mystery will never be solved as I abandoned the deal and bought another truck today.

I did have someone else mention to me in person that the Dodge was being used as collateral for the Avalanche. The wording doesn't make a lot of sense to me... :dunno: ... but whatever.

The truck I bought is 3 years newer, in better shape and only 5% more expensive. Win.