Anyone delt with " International Motor Cars"

[Blue]

Looking to purchase this

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2008-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-evo-mr-blow-out-pricing/588375597?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

But I was told to stay away from them because of shady business.

Any thoughts?

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Stay far far far away.

[A790]

Originally posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo
Stay far far far away.
Can you elaborate on that?

[georgemagana]

Google south deerfoot suzuki reviews.

[roll_over]

Originally posted by A790

Can you elaborate on that?

Isn't this South Deerfoot Suzuki? I'm not sure

[A790]

Oh shit, if this is SDS then nevermind...

Stay away. lol

[guessboi]

^ Yes and stay far away.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Avoid at all costs. That is SDS.

http://www.internationalmotorcars.ca/dealership/history.htm

I also see they keep all their "Sold" cars up on the website and change the price to "Please Call" haha. "We don't actually have this car, but please call me about it".

[Blue]

k thanks guys, I guess ill look for a new one
and I doubt theres over $20k worth of mod on that evo was going to go in and look at it tomorrow but I guess that wont be needed

[KRyn]

Blow Out Pricing!? More like, this car will shortly Blow Up after you purchase it pricing.

[btimbit]

Run. Run far far away.

[rob the knob]

http://pictures.dealer.com/ddc/resize/250x/quality/72/sharpen/1/ddc//s/southdeerfootsuzukitc/1380/abfea4f94046387201d6c3363ae23db8.jpg

[corsvette]

Going out of business? Ad looks desperate to liquidate 1 mill worth of inventory ASAP, I get the vibe they are closing out for good. :dunno:

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by corsvette
Going out of business? Ad looks desperate to liquidate 1 mill worth of inventory ASAP, I get the vibe they are closing out for good. :dunno:

Remember that store "San Fransisco Gifts"? They had a "store closing BLOW OUT SALE" 6 times a year :rofl:

[corsvette]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Remember that store "San Fransisco Gifts"? They had a "store closing BLOW OUT SALE" 6 times a year :rofl:


I remember them lol! They finally did go under. It's a poor strategy for a car dealer peddling higher end cars. Gives the impression they're going tits up. I don't want to plunk down big $$ for a car from a here today gone tomorrow dealership. No chance of ANY after sale service or support.

[Freebs]

Originally posted by Blue
Looking to purchase this

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2008-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-evo-mr-blow-out-pricing/588375597?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

But I was told to stay away from them because of shady business.

Any thoughts?

This is my old Evo. I traded it in for a GTR. I did take very good care of it and can tell you the KMs are a bit on the higher side because I went to school in West Palm Beach Florida and took it down with me. And while I was there I did a lot of road trips around the southern states and than a big 15,000km road trip home.

It was tuned by one of the best Evo tuners around and a few of us flew him up from California to be tuned here by him. The power band was incredibly smooth on it and had on-the-fly map switching from 91 -> 94 octane.

If you do have any questions about the car let me know. I have no problems answering any questions.

Also I don't work for international motor cars, a friend just mentioned this thread to me so I thought I would pop in and say hi

[Freebs]

I do have pictures to prove this was my old car and I am not just on here trying to sell this car. As I don't benefit at all if it sells or not. Just would be nice if it went to another car guy that would take care of it like I did.

[Mitsu3000gt]

I'd be much more worried about what has happened to your car AFTER it went into the hands of SDS.

[A790]

I bought a 2004 SRT-4 from SDS years ago. It was in great shape mechanically and aesthetically. It drove well, had no issues, no accidents, etc.

When getting the car detailed, Renee (inline6turbo) found that the seats were raised using washers and that only 1/8 of the thread from the bolt was actually securing it to the floor. In an accident that could have been pretty severe...

[Tik-Tok]

That sounds more like the previous owner though. There'd be no reason SDS would have raised the seats, or have had any requirement to look at them really.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by A790
I bought a 2004 SRT-4 from SDS years ago. It was in great shape mechanically and aesthetically. It drove well, had no issues, no accidents, etc.

When getting the car detailed, Renee (inline6turbo) found that the seats were raised using washers and that only 1/8 of the thread from the bolt was actually securing it to the floor. In an accident that could have been pretty severe...

The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me. What owner in his right mind would do that thinking it was a good idea?

[A790]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok
That sounds more like the previous owner though. There'd be no reason SDS would have raised the seats, or have had any requirement to look at them really.
I would think that when the car is being detailed it'd be pretty obvious. However, the impression I got from them was that they disclosed things... when asked the right questions. You know?

[4runneron36s]

wrong thread

[Freebs]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I'd be much more worried about what has happened to your car AFTER it went into the hands of SDS.

Yea I can't say for sure after I traded it into them.. it ran smooth as butter, quite with no ticking or knocking and never once had an engine or turbo issue in the 116,021kms and zero check engine lights.

The ONLY 2 issues the car ever had was the tranny was replaced at 24,000km due to a leak and they apparently just replace the entire unit (or did back in 2010) and the AWD pump which never caused me any more issues after they did some re-flash on it (after putting in the new one). Never went through any oil at all between oil changes even on long day after day highway driving road trips where most cars will go through some oil. It was a very reliable car.

It also saw very limited winters as I was living in Florida. I think in total it went through maybe 2 full winters here. The rest it spent traveling the likes of Key west, Miami, Fort Myers, Texas, all over California, ect.

Just a few snipits of where this Evo spent a lot of its time.

Drive Thru Tree - Leggett, CA
https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/248975_10150192148905893_7380426_n.jpg

Key West / 90miles to Cuba
https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/206944_10150143979820893_7929886_n.jpg

St. Louis
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/45426_10150253628400333_3301446_n.jpg

Disney World
https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/44713_10150253630310333_1383584_n.jpg

Sketchy area in New Orleans (Damn NAV trying to get me killed)
https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/247006_10150192902831107_5428571_n.jpg

Pacific Coast Highway - I had a smile on my face from ear to ear on this highway in the Evo as it was like a road course with no one on it... HOURS of hair pin banked turns...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/249984_10150192148715893_7877191_n.jpg

[Blue]

They should really teach the salesman not to be rude and retarded because they just lost a buyer for the evo :thumbsdow

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Blue
They should really teach the salesman not to be rude and retarded because they just lost a buyer for the evo :thumbsdow

Did you actually go there or do you mean because of this thread?

[Blue]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Did you actually go there or do you mean because of this thread?

actually went there haha

[shakalaka]

Details?

[01RedDX]

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[Blue]

Originally posted by shakalaka
Details?

to sum it all up, The salesman told me I couldn't afford this car when I only wanted to finance the MR with 9k down deposit. :dunno: :dunno:

Then he keeps saying "situation" left and right in the conversation. Like is it really a situation here when I want to finance the car and not buy it straight out when I can do better things with the rest of the money? /rant

[Black Gts]

Didn't they use to have we finance anybody ads in the sun? Lol

[Heisenbergh]

Originally posted by 01RedDX
^ I can only imagine. David Baker is such a miserable old fuck, it just radiates off him.

4-5 years ago I had to serve him some legal documents, one of presumably many legal actions initiated against SDS. The whole place had a palpable sense of hostility, and I remember thinking "man, I'd hate to be a customer here." Well that, and the numerous threads on beyond, including the big one with little Normie.



I could not agree with you more!!! David Baker has to be one of the biggest assholes I've ever met in any business. Ask any industry insider that knows him, and you will not find anyone that has anything nice to say about him. The same goes for his pimple faced immature douche bag son Norman. The only time you know for certain he's not lieing to you is when he's not talking.

Just goes to show you, the apple really does never fall from the tree. I can't believe that these scum bag's are still in business.

[PulsePro]

Anybody see their free sign from the other thread?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/calgary/free-light-up-suzuki-sign/602603091?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/383037/anyone-want-the-suzuki-sign-from-south-deerfoot-suzuki/

[jsn]

So are they actually the same dealership as SDS (i.e., run by david baker and son)? Or are they a new dealership with new management operating in the same building as the old SDS dealership? They have a car I'm interested in but if they are indeed the same people who ran SDS, looks like i'll stay far away.

Has anyone actually dealt with them or know of anyone who dealt with them?

EDIT: answered my own question. Googled them up and looked at the contact info.

http://www.internationalmotorcars.ca/contact-form.htm

David and Norman Baker. Damn, it was such a good price on the car too :(

[schocker]

^^^^
No listing of staff but resumes go to :



Business Manager / F & I Manager required
The successful applicant will already have F & I Experience.
We are looking for a team player with excellent closing skills.
We expect the successful applicant will earn in excess of 100K per year.
Apply in strict confidence by email to [email protected]

So look for another car :burnout:

[jsn]

^^ I just looked under contact us and it lists david and norman baker. It's really too bad because they had a great price on the car I was looking for.

[03ozwhip]

BUMP. It hasn't been too long since this thread died, but I'm assuming everything is still the same with them? Same story, really good price on a car I'm interested in.

Why do they have such good prices on cars is what I'm wondering...

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by 03ozwhip


Why do they have such good prices on cars is what I'm wondering...

Because that car just sold this morning. They have a very similar car with twice the kilometers and 1/2 the options for the same price they can show you though!

But yes, still owned by the Bakers.

[shakalaka]

They do have nice cars, lots of GTR's etc. It's crazy.

[03ozwhip]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Because that car just sold this morning. They have a very similar car with twice the kilometers and 1/2 the options for the same price they can show you though!

But yes, still owned by the Bakers.

Lol no sarcasm at all. Thanks, I figured that might be the case anyways, I saw it happen a lot when looking at kijiji ads.

[03ozwhip]

Originally posted by shakalaka
They do have nice cars, lots of GTR's etc. It's crazy.

It makes you wonder, right? Are you back in calgary? We should take a walk in there together and see what happens lol

[Shlade]

Just search @imcars on Instagram. Little spoiled baker boy takes lots of nice cars out. Think I'd touch a car from there? Not a fucking chance. A friend of mine bought an s2000 that had some insane body work done on it that they hid.

stay the fuck away

[shakalaka]

Originally posted by 03ozwhip


It makes you wonder, right? Are you back in calgary? We should take a walk in there together and see what happens lol

Haha unfortunately not back in Calgary, not permanently anyway. I see so many cars that I get interested in but when I see they are at that dealership I get turned away. Don't think it'd be worth the risk even though they have lots of nice choices.

[relyt92]

Originally posted by shakalaka


Haha unfortunately not back in Calgary, not permanently anyway. I see so many cars that I get interested in but when I see they are at that dealership I get turned away. Don't think it'd be worth the risk even though they have lots of nice choices. Yeah I keep seeing cars there or at GOFC that I'd want to go look at then realize who is selling it.

[M.alex]

somebody buy that $40k aston martin they have for sale and let me know how it goes :D

[rx7boi]

Bummer, I always see their ads on Kijiji and they have such a large selection of nice cars.

I'm looking at this 2012 Audi A5 and I'm tempted to go look at it because there's not alot of them floating around for sale.

From reading this thread, it looks like it's regular practice for them to hide mechanical and body issues from customers until it's too late? Not to mention that they will tell you to eat shit if you go back for customer service?

If I understand correctly, they renamed themselves from SDS to IMC?

[killramos]

So is millennium motors another one of these shady as fuck places?

I drive by their lot all the time and there are some seriously nice cars in there all the time. I never see them move though, just sit there for months and months. Makes me wonder if its a front.

[flipstah]

Those GT-R's are so tempting FML.

[bjstare]

Originally posted by killramos
So is millennium motors another one of these shady as fuck places?

I drive by their lot all the time and there are some seriously nice cars in there all the time. I never see them move though, just sit there for months and months. Makes me wonder if its a front.

I test drove a C63 there once. They just seem like your avg used car lot. A bit greasy, but nothing crazy. The car I drove had a B service warning that the salesman tried to scroll past on startup so I wouldn't see it, and it was in serious need of a ($5k) brake job, but he tried to convince me they were fine (when they clearly weren't, the front rotors were so worn you could see the depth of wear without even getting close to check).

Would I buy a car there? Likely not, but they didn't seem as bad as what I've heard about IMC/SDS.


Also, I looked at the SDS instagram that was posted at the top of this page... whoever runs that is a real idiot. Why on earth you'd let someone post a pic on a corporate account that is hashtagged with #doorsuppantiesdown is beyond me.

[rx7boi]

Originally posted by killramos
So is millennium motors another one of these shady as fuck places?

I drive by their lot all the time and there are some seriously nice cars in there all the time. I never see them move though, just sit there for months and months. Makes me wonder if its a front.

I went to Millenium Motors couple months ago to look at a grey S5. I was hoping to do a drop-in test drive but the car was in their lobby.

The owner (Moe?) basically gave me the keys to the S5, told me I could turn the engine over and just left me to my own devices. I asked him if the S5 had a sports differential, he made up an answer but I could tell he had no idea.

That S5 is gone though. It was a pretty good price which is why it caught my eye to begin with.


Originally posted by flipstah
Those GT-R's are so tempting FML.

I see those on their kijiji ads. 64g's for a 2010 GTR. Damnnnn.

[shakalaka]

They certainly have tempting cars but I am always scared because of what I have heard about them.

[Rocket1k78]

Millennium mustve changed owners because the old owner was Ahmed Seria(not sure of spelling) and he burned my buddy on a consignment of an Suv.

[bjstare]

I dealt with Moe at Millennium as well.

That reminds me, he insisted on coming on the test drive (OK whatever), but he made my friend that was with me - who is 6'4" - cram himself in the backseat. Like what kind of salesman does that? It's not like we're a couple of grubby skids, furthermore it was a booked test drive that I set up when I was there with my wife and the C63 was in the showroom. :facepalm:

[flipstah]

Let's buy the three GT-R's and see who lasts mwhahaha.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

My mom picked up a 1989 635CSi from MM a few years back. I can't say if it was a bad deal or not, as she hasn't driven it much due to issues sourcing parts like brake pads and such.

Buddy of mine picked up his e39 M5 from MM back around 07/08.

[Redlyne_mr2]

I would assume they stay relatively busy, they have unique inventory and have quite the captive market. Their pricing is also fair, for the weary buyer get the vehicle inspected somewhere else.

I always wondered about this car, I wonder how they got their hands on it, definitely a tough car to resell but its built extremely well.

http://www.internationalmotorcars.ca/certified/Honda/2005-Honda-S2000-dd888c270a0e08bb64e5f16b8a03b398.htm

[G-ZUS]

Originally posted by LilDrunkenSmurf
My mom picked up a 1989 635CSi from MM a few years back. I can't say if it was a bad deal or not, as she hasn't driven it much due to issues sourcing parts like brake pads and such.

Buddy of mine picked up his e39 M5 from MM back around 07/08.

Does she wanna sell it?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by rx7boi
I asked him if the S5 had a sports differential, he made up an answer but I could tell he had no idea.
.


Originally posted by cjblair


The car I drove had a B service warning that the salesman tried to scroll past on startup so I wouldn't see it, and it was in serious need of a ($5k) brake job, but he tried to convince me they were fine (when they clearly weren't, the front rotors were so worn you could see the depth of wear without even getting close to check).


Well that's about enough for me to never want to go there...if you don't know you say you will find out, you don't make up some BS. Trying to hide service and brakes that are badly in need of repair is extremely shady as well. I know most used car lots are probably shady to some degree though.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Originally posted by G-ZUS


Does she wanna sell it?

I think so. It's been in storage. I'm trying to convince her to get it dropped off at my place so I can give it the once over and clean it up/repair it first. If I had more driveway space, I'd consider picking it up myself, it's a great looking car.

[BensonTT]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Remember that store "San Fransisco Gifts"? They had a "store closing BLOW OUT SALE" 6 times a year :rofl:

I used to love this store when I was a kid!! Is it still around or they really out of business? :love: :love:

[killramos]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Well that's about enough for me to never want to go there...if you don't know you say you will find out, you don't make up some BS. Trying to hide service and brakes that are badly in need of repair is extremely shady as well. I know most used car lots are probably shady to some degree though.

No different than a private sale at that point, these guys are just better at hiding things than the average owner. Up to you to get the car checked out.

[BokCh0y]

My buddy a car from MM a while back, had nothing but probs.

His fault for not doing my research or having it inspected by a 3rd party, but the price was real good is what got my attention. The said vehicle needed wheel bearings on the front and rear passenger side, new brakes all the way around, new ebrake cables, as well some other things. It ended up to be the biggest pos he ever owned. Said vehicle was a Lexus.

Would I go to SDS, MM, IMC, GoFC? Not thank you. Just my opinion of course...

Great pricing yes, but the behind the scene costs are what add up. May as well buy from a reputable shop then at least you have less to worry about it.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by killramos


No different than a private sale at that point, these guys are just better at hiding things than the average owner. Up to you to get the car checked out.

It's true, but inflated dealer pricing is supposed to come with certain assurances (I.e. not intentionally and actively being as deceptive as possible, or covering up safety issues or expensive service). Not every dealer is like that, but lots are. Used car lots are like buying from even shadier people than Kijiji, plus GST.

[bjstare]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


It's true, but inflated dealer pricing is supposed to come with certain assurances (I.e. not intentionally and actively being as deceptive as possible, or covering up safety issues or expensive service). Not every dealer is like that, but lots are. Used car lots are like buying from even shadier people than Kijiji, plus GST.

I would argue that unless buying new, or factory CPO from a reputable factory dealer, I would expect dealer pricing to be of the shady and deceptive type. The only certain assurance is that they're going to hide something from you. It would have to be a special car for me to buy at a typical used car dealership. Obviously there are exceptions to this rule, and new or used car dealers out there that will not rip you off... but with the exception of beyond sponsors, I rarely hear good stories from any type of dealership. :dunno:

[relyt92]

Originally posted by cjblair

I rarely hear good stories from any type of dealership. :dunno: I've had good experiences at Calgary Auto Quest, didn't end up buying a car from them though but I have gone and looked at 2-3 that they've had and never had any concerns.

[roxxx]

LMAO

I have email Norman Baker repeatedly asking about an Audi on kijiji

even clicked the get Car proof

This the only responds I have received even after I said i didn't need financing.

Hello,

What questions can I answer for you?
Are you interested in getting pre-approved for financing?
We have ALOT of interest in this particular unit so if you would like to move forward with a transaction, time is of the essence as this unit will sell FAST.

Thank you

Best Wishes,

Norman Baker
Sent from my iPad

[rx7boi]

Only thing he's missing is that he needs your Paypal info to help a Nigerian prince.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by roxxx
LMAO

I have email Norman Baker repeatedly asking about an Audi on kijiji

even clicked the get Car proof

This the only responds I have received even after I said i didn't need financing.

Hello,

What questions can I answer for you?
Are you interested in getting pre-approved for financing?
We have ALOT of interest in this particular unit so if you would like to move forward with a transaction, time is of the essence as this unit will sell FAST.

Thank you

Best Wishes,

Norman Baker
Sent from my iPad

That's probably an automatic reply.

[Heisenbergh]

International Motor Cars have to be one of the sleaziest car lots in town. The father son team that runs the place have a terrible reputation, not only with disgruntled customer's of which there are many, but also with fellow dealer's. Nobody wants to have anything to do with them. Would you want to buy a car from them? I wouldn't.

IMC is always looking to hire new employees. What does that tell you ? It tells me that the sleazy Baker boys have created a toxic work environment at their store, making it difficult for them to retain a stable and reliable staff.

As far as their inventory goes, a large majority of their vehicle's are purchased on-line via dealer auctions. Most of these vehicles are eastern rust buckets, with questionable car proofs and history at best. I have a life long friend that is car dealer, and he says when the Baker boys turn up at the Adessa dealer auction out in Airdrie, all the other dealer's make fun of them because they're such arrogant assholes. Hubris is a good word that comes to mind when describing the 2 Baker idiot's. If all the industry insider's think the Baker idiot's are slime bags, what does that tell you ?

IMC is a classic example of a sleazy used car dealership. How they remain in business is a mystery to me.

Moreover, every time I have seen young pimple faced Normy, he appears always jittery with huge widened pupil's, and has the sniffles. He has all the hallmarks of a tweeker to me.

I've said it before and will state it again. Stay clear and far away from the sleazy Baker baffoon's at International Motor Cars, unless you like to get ripped off.

[shakalaka]

Welcome to 5 years ago when we knew all that already. Good confirmation though I suppose.

[LadyRed]

Run. LOL. They stole $3000 from me and falsified my income, tried to make me sign the confirmation form that I made $10,000. Which is almost double/triple what I actually make. Refused to return my deposit.

[J-hop]

Run. LOL. They stole $3000 from me and falsified my income, tried to make me sign the confirmation form that I made $10,000. Which is almost double/triple what I actually make. Refused to return my deposit.

Sleazy but I sure hope you meant 100,000, 3-5 thousand/year isn't even a part time job 2 days a week

Edit: sorry just saw your other thread, you meant monthly, that makes more sense haha

[shredknar]

Run. LOL. They stole $3000 from me and falsified my income, tried to make me sign the confirmation form that I made $10,000. Which is almost double/triple what I actually make. Refused to return my deposit.

Did you ever end up going to CBC about it?

I was one of the "Bad Customers' they posted on that website haha

[ShermanEF9]

Reading the negative reviews on google is hilarious. Its like Trump is replying to everything.