ND Miata Unveiled

[xnvy]

What do y'all think?

Link (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/09/03/2016-mazda-mx5-miata-photos-official/)

Pretty much the best car ever made besides the NB Miata.

[Sugarphreak]

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[xnvy]

^I'm trying mobile is tough.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Uh... do you have some sort of picture or link to go with this?
:werd:
WORST AUTOMOTIVE NEWS POST EVER

[Sugarphreak]

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[schocker]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
2,200lbs is good... I wonder if they will finally go Turbo on it though to keep pace with the competition
It had better to outrun those looks. Front looks like a squinty face and where is the coupe!

My favorite part is the LACK OF ANY TECHNICAL DETAILS WHATSOEVER! :rofl:

[xnvy]

Ronal Teddy Bears are the standard wheel.

Interior options include leather and daisy seat covers.

Car eyelashes are a $50 dollar dealer installed optional extra.

Turbo motor is rumoured but the car was never about power, just wringing everything out of the motor at low speeds. The NA and NB (best car in history) are very acceptive of F/I like the Flyin' Miata turbo kit. Hopefully the ND will be the same. I doubt lots of Beyonders will buy them though. Not assure enough of their masculinity :rofl: *looking at you fuckers in the chick car thread :D*

[rage2]

Wow. A surprising wow. Very good looking car. 2200lbs in this day and age is impressive.

[xnvy]

Originally posted by schocker

:werd:
WORST AUTOMOTIVE NEWS POST EVER hey! You made this post after my edit adding the link!! Not fair. You hater. My news thread > Your spotted threads.

[Sugarphreak]

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[guessboi]

ND looks good - the weight is impressive. Now we need to know the specs.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Was banking on it being my next car, but I am not too sure now.

[DubSport]

Looks great. I'd take it in Coupe form, if the rumors are true. Oh and 2200 pounds, sorry but I don't believe that figure. Hope I can eat my own words one day on that one.

[HiSpec]

Here are the JDM specs (for reference):


Body type: Roadster
Seating Capacity: 2 persons
Length: 154.1" (3915mm)
Width: 68.1" (1730mm)
Height: 48.62" (1235mm)
Wheelbase: 91.1" (2315mm)
Engine: SKYACTIV-G direct-injection gasoline engine
Transmissions: SKYACTIV-MT six-speed manual
Front suspension: Double wishbone
Rear suspension: Multilink
Steering: Electric Power Assisted Rack & Pinion Steering (EPAS)
Brakes (front/rear): Ventilated discs / Solid discs
Tires: 195/50R16

Unfortunately no power figures for the JDM spec. But...


Also interesting is the Skyactiv-G engine. We in America get a 2.0 liter Skyactiv-G with 155 horsepower and 150 lb-ft of torque. You can find that engine in a CX-5, for instance. It is entirely possible that the ND Miata will have a different spec for its engine, however. - Jalopnik

Source: Jalopnik (http://jalopnik.com/these-are-the-first-official-specs-of-the-2016-mazda-mi-1630375801)

[xnvy]

6-speed? The 5-speed is the best tranny that Mazda makes. 6-speed is okay but it's got nothing on the 5. :thumbsdow

[Sentry]

http://i.imgur.com/iREA0Ed.jpg

[HiSpec]

Originally posted by xnvy
6-speed? The 5-speed is the best tranny that Mazda makes. 6-speed is okay but it's got nothing on the 5. :thumbsdow

Why? Because of gear ratios?

[MR2-3SGTE]

The weight reduction is awesome, but I always see Miata's as a happy smiley car. This new looks is nice, but a bit too aggressive for the Miata heritage

[relyt92]

If the car is actually sold at 2200lb that's going to be seriously impressive. 600 pounds lighter than an FRS even.

[Disoblige]

Yea that would be pretty impressive. That's 100 lb less than a Mazda 2!

[Xtrema]

Meh, not over 200hp, no care.

[eglove]

Oh man. Do want. Hopefully there's a turbo version.

[xnvy]

Originally posted by HiSpec


Why? Because of gear ratios? Pretty much. Also it's not as smooth and it's too precise. You have to anticipate the movement of the tranny before shifting when you're driving hard. It's why I'd prefer a turbo NA/NB over an MSM. It's a common complaint actually. Especially with something like the Cobalt short shift kit in the MSM as compared to a better product like the Miataroadster kit which doesn't exacerbate the precision problem as much.

[egmilano]

Don't like the rear lights but looks friggin good

[Sykes]

Anybody else see the live unveiling? Mazda FAIL :banghead:

I also don't really dig the tail lights, but overall I think it's a great looking car.

Actually, the more I look at it and imagined a Honda badge on it, I don't think it would look too out of place as a 2nd gen S2000...? :dunno:

[xnvy]

I did watch the unveiling. Worst. Unveiling. Ever. Damn Duran Duran got more attention than the car itself :rofl:

[Sugarphreak]

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[01RedDX]

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[flipstah]

Lol.

http://jalopnik.com/dammit-i-cant-stop-seeing-bunnies-in-the-2016-mazda-mi-1630360337

I like that front end though. Any interior pics? Also, 155hp and it has 6spd? Wat.

[94boosted]

If that weight is true then that's impressive as hell, not a huge fan of the looks though.


Originally posted by Xtrema
Meh, not over 200hp, no care.

:werd: Hopefully they make a Mazdaspeed version with 200+ HP

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by 01RedDX
I don't think it would kill them to offer a Mazdaspeed model.

^This and I really like it with the exception of the entire rear end. :nut:

[DeleriousZ]

2200lbs and 160hp should still be pretty sporty. Not sure if I'm a fan of the front end or not, but I still dig it.

[b_t]

Nah man, gotta be 200 horsepower minimum. You need to hurtle past the speed limit every single time you want to have fun. It is more important to break the law than drive at 10/10ths without rapidly outpacing traffic.

It has same power-to-weight as an FR-S. Plenty good enough for the street

[oz388]

Originally posted by Disoblige
Yea that would be pretty impressive. That's 100 lb less than a Mazda 2!

just don't hit anything heavier than 2200 lbs on the road you will be safe in this little thing.

[ExtraSlow]

Mass \= safety

[k1l4m]

https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10641139_694378200640746_8048716263641240157_n.jpg?oh=41d031d1306a7ed49222d3c8c62a17ac&oe=546A99C5
http://www.motorward.com/wp-content/images/2014/05/jaguar-f-type-convertible-08.jpg

[flipstah]

Originally posted by k1l4m
MX5 vs. F-Type

Uhhh... No. Worst comparison ever.

Now, would you rather have this new model or the previous MY?

[klumsy_tumbler]

Not really a huge fan.... I still think it's way too girly. Also, surprised that they're not going the turbo route as well. Probably comes with a special edition bedazzled keychain.

[Darkane]

I'm going to wager a 170hp direct injection 2L.

And it'll be 2200 lbs with soft top base model.

The hardtop convertible will be 2300-2350 which is still awesome. Looking forward to this car if 6'3" fits into it

[rage2]

Originally posted by b_t
It has same power-to-weight as an FR-S. Plenty good enough for the street
Power to weight ratio isn't a fair comparison, because we don't live in a vacuum. It takes roughly the same amount of power, regardless of weight, for a street car to cut it's way through air at higher speeds.

[k1l4m]

Originally posted by flipstah


Uhhh... No. Worst comparison ever.

Now, would you rather have this new model or the previous MY?


Uhhh.... I just thought they look really similar even though the f-type still looks a lot better :dunno:

[b_t]

Originally posted by rage2

Power to weight ratio isn't a fair comparison, because we don't live in a vacuum. It takes roughly the same amount of power, regardless of weight, for a street car to cut it's way through air at higher speeds.

imo all the most fun driving happens at low speeds. in a town with pavement as shitty as Calgary 100km/h or less is where you spend 99.99% of your time. I just want something good on gas that can slide around a little

with BC changing to super harsh speeding penalties, the way tickets & demerits work in AB now, stuff like that I really don't want a super a fast car anymore. No where to drive it until we get a track.

[Mitsu3000gt]

I've always thought Miatas to be one of the worst looking cars on the road. Too 'cute' or 'girly' looking. I don't even find them fun to drive because they are so underpowered. You have this car that handles pretty well, but it is slower than a Camry and a host of other incredibly regular, boring, cars.

This looks worse than all Miatas except for the very first ones IMHO.

A DCT option and a competitive engine would help a lot in this car.

Just can't get on board with these things, they are just about the most undesirable car on the road for me personally. I'd much rather have a FR-S or something, even though they are just as underpowered. Both could really benefit from a turbo option.

[HiSpec]

Originally posted by flipstah
Also, 155hp and it has 6spd? Wat.

That's the JDM spec. There's a chance NA will get something a bit different. But I do agree with other members for at least 200hp.

[Disoblige]

Just watch... They might have a 200 HP model, but it'll be like $50k+ OTD :p

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by b_t


imo all the most fun driving happens at low speeds. in a town with pavement as shitty as Calgary 100km/h or less is where you spend 99.99% of your time. I just want something good on gas that can slide around a little

with BC changing to super harsh speeding penalties, the way tickets & demerits work in AB now, stuff like that I really don't want a super a fast car anymore. No where to drive it until we get a track.

YES. I 100% agree..my ~200 hp torquey little mustang is more fun for daily driving than my 400 hp camaro ever was.

[xnvy]

Looking at it more, I like the styling but it's not Miata-like at all.

Miata's were always happy looking cars that had different styling compared to the rest of the Mazda lineup. Incorporating it into the Kodo design language, while making it look pretty nice, makes it look a tad too agressive for a rev happy roadster.

The Mazdaspeed Miata (MSM) was out for the last two MY's of the NB generation, maybe something similar for this one?

I don't know anything about the SkyActiv engines. How do they compare to the BP in the early gens? Those were easy to work on, acceptive of FI, and you could run them at the red line all day and not worry about blowing them up. The only thing they really didn't like was upping the compression ratio.

[slinkie]

Originally posted by xnvy
Looking at it more, I like the styling but it's not Miata-like at all.

Miata's were always happy looking cars that had different styling compared to the rest of the Mazda lineup. Incorporating it into the Kodo design language, while making it look pretty nice, makes it look a tad too agressive for a rev happy roadster.

The Mazdaspeed Miata (MSM) was out for the last two MY's of the NB generation, maybe something similar for this one?

I don't know anything about the SkyActiv engines. How do they compare to the BP in the early gens? Those were easy to work on, acceptive of FI, and you could run them at the red line all day and not worry about blowing them up. The only thing they really didn't like was upping the compression ratio.

Well I don't think Skyactiv will handle aftermarket FI very well, they have crazy high CR already

[Mibz]

Torque curve is going to make a huge difference as well. Despite what rage2 meant, we DO live in a slight vacuum compared to the rest of the world and low torque, high-revving engines suffer the most from our altitude. Drive an FRS and S2000 back to back, it's night and day. They both have about the same peak power, but the FRSs significantly higher torque makes it a far more driveable car IMO.

If you need to rev the piss out of this thing to make 150hp then it's going to be extra awful in Calgary.

Another thing to keep in mind is that, at 2,200lb and 150hp, adding a 175lb driver is more significant than in just about any other vehicle.

All that said, I like everything about the looks of this thing except those taillights.

[pheoxs]

Originally posted by Mibz
Torque curve is going to make a huge difference as well. Despite what rage2 meant, we DO live in a slight vacuum compared to the rest of the world and low torque, high-revving engines suffer the most from our altitude. Drive an FRS and S2000 back to back, it's night and day. They both have about the same peak power, but the FRSs significantly higher torque makes it a far more driveable car IMO.

If you need to rev the piss out of this thing to make 150hp then it's going to be extra awful in Calgary.

Another thing to keep in mind is that, at 2,200lb and 150hp, adding a 175lb driver is more significant than in just about any other vehicle.

All that said, I like everything about the looks of this thing except those taillights.

Wut? S2000 has ~50hp more than an FR-S...

[Hallowed_point]

^Yeah but it's a hondar aka where's the torque man ;)

[a social dsease]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point
YES. I 100% agree..my ~200 hp torquey little mustang is more fun for daily driving than my 400 hp camaro ever was.

Yep. As much as it pains me to say it, I have more fun driving my fiance's Honda Fit than my Stg2 WRX with more than 2x the power. At least on dry pavement :D


I like the looks and specs of the new Miata. While I agree that a turbo model would be awesome, I can see why they aren't doing one; I don't think they really need a high-powered model in order to sell cars. The Miata doesn't have much direct competition in the market and the competitors it does have (BRZ?) aren't exactly rocket ships. Maybe if Subaru cames out with a turbo-BRZ they'll boost the Miata. One can only dream :drool:

[Hallowed_point]

^Most miata buyers (don't kill me xnvy) appear to be middle aged men who can't afford/nor want the mid life crisis that is an automatic transmission convertible corvette. When can you use 400+ horsepower in Calgary due to the roads/potential tickets?

The miata is a grand slam for what it is. A fun little car with just enough power.

[DeleriousZ]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point
The miata is a grand slam for what it is. A fun little car with just enough power.

If it reaches BRZ level aftermarket support, which it probably will, it could turn into another fantastic tuner car.

Combine that with its double wishbone/multi link suspension, it should be very popular with auto-xer's and tuners alike.

[rage2]

Is there something wrong with me? I can use 400+ hp every single drive I make. Sure I'm not WOT autobahn style the entire drive, but I make use of WOT quite often.

[A790]

Originally posted by rage2
Is there something wrong with me? I can use 400+ hp every single drive I make. Sure I'm not WOT autobahn style the entire drive, but I make use of WOT quite often.
I use all 300 of my horses basically every day and I haven't had a speeding ticket in 10 years. Sometimes you just really need to get up to speed quickly...

[Mibz]

Originally posted by pheoxs
Wut? S2000 has ~50hp more than an FR-S... FML, I had it in my head that AP1s had 200 horse. That's an even bigger slap in the face for an S2000 then, haha.

[Darkane]

Lol the frs is terrible for DD! It doesn't have torque, what it has is an insane dip in power at 4500. Yes I've driven one.

Compare a 06-09 s2000 with just a test pipe and flash pro tune. You'll see at 4500 it'll have about 30-40 more tq than an frs. Frs unless they're supercharged can't really have the dip tuned out.

Even an Ap1 will have more torque than the frs with the cam switchover set in earlier. Not to mention rediculars gearing.

[xnvy]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point
^Most miata buyers (don't kill me xnvy) appear to be middle aged men who can't afford/nor want the mid life crisis that is an automatic transmission convertible corvette. When can you use 400+ horsepower in Calgary due to the roads/potential tickets?

The miata is a grand slam for what it is. A fun little car with just enough power.

That's partially true. Most of the CRMC for instance is older men (40+) that can wring out almost everything from their Miata's. A lot of them did boost the power and modify the car such as Gord's Italia and Dan T.'s LS3 Miata but a lot buy them because they're fun cars, handle amazing, and don't have the boy racer image of the FRS and BRZ. I'd say a good portion of the CRMC cars get tracked, most of the club is made up of MT cars and a lot of the owner's have multiple Miatas and other more powerful cars.

Miata's sure aren't the fastest but they're possibly the funnest car out there. They also are capable DD's that won't break your back, the bank, or leave you stranded anywhere.

The BP engine was really mod friendly though and that was an awesome aspect of the Miata. The new engines don't seem to be quite so moddable unfortunately.

[Mibz]

Originally posted by Darkane
Lol the frs is terrible for DD! It doesn't have torque, what it has is an insane dip in power at 4500. Yes I've driven one.

Compare a 06-09 s2000 with just a test pipe and flash pro tune. You'll see at 4500 it'll have about 30-40 more tq than an frs. Frs unless they're supercharged can't really have the dip tuned out.

Even an Ap1 will have more torque than the frs with the cam switchover set in earlier. Not to mention rediculars gearing. You can tell a Honda fanboy because they think DDing at 4500 rpm isn't revving the piss out of something.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Mibz
You can tell a Honda fanboy because they think DDing at 4500 rpm isn't revving the piss out of something.
:rofl:

[Darkane]

Originally posted by Mibz
You can tell a Honda fanboy because they think DDing at 4500 rpm isn't revving the piss out of something.

:rofl:

It really isn't.

[trieu]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I've always thought Miatas to be one of the worst looking cars on the road. Too 'cute' or 'girly' looking. I don't even find them fun to drive because they are so underpowered. You have this car that handles pretty well, but it is slower than a Camry and a host of other incredibly regular, boring, cars.

This looks worse than all Miatas except for the very first ones IMHO.

A DCT option and a competitive engine would help a lot in this car.

Just can't get on board with these things, they are just about the most undesirable car on the road for me personally. I'd much rather have a FR-S or something, even though they are just as underpowered. Both could really benefit from a turbo option.

Do you drive every car on the road? Don't mean to call you out but it seems like you have an opinion on every car there is, or are you just reading stuff on the internet?

[b_t]

Originally posted by xnvy

The BP engine was really mod friendly though and that was an awesome aspect of the Miata. The new engines don't seem to be quite so moddable unfortunately.

When I was looking into getting a Miata, I was blown away by the motor. Solid thing. Puts up extremely respectable numbers even at low boost, and with such a dedicated community around it, it is very easy to get a nice setup out together. Plus there are a zillion parts out there. It almost felt like I was into domestic small block Chevys again.

Dunno how the new ones would be though... the 3 and Mazdaspeed 3, I was just as blown away at how bad the performance aftermarket was.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by trieu


Do you drive every car on the road? Don't mean to call you out but it seems like you have an opinion on every car there is, or are you just reading stuff on the internet?

A lot of them, yes. Car shopping for me is usually a 6-12 month venture, driving everything I would possibly be interested in. Spending $20 or $50K is a big deal (for me). I also get enlisted to help lots of friends, family members, and coworkers find cars, which means I am driving all sorts of things from various price ranges, new and used. I also travel a lot and through rental cars I get to try out all sorts of things for weeks at a time. Obviously I have not driven every car on the road...

I have driven 2 generations of Miatas and I do not like them at all for the reasons stated above, even if I ignore their looks. Just my opinion of course, car taste is entirely subjective. The RX8 falls into the same category - do not like it at all.

[mr2mike]

Originally posted by trieu


Do you drive every car on the road? Don't mean to call you out but it seems like you have an opinion on every car there is, or are you just reading stuff on the internet?



Originally posted by Rage2

1. The Statistician – These guys are all about bench racing. 0-60 times, 1/4 mile, skidpad, slalom, that is all that matters in their world. They’ll surf Motor Trend, Car and Driver, or any other publication that has instrumented tests and cherry pick the best stats to back up their arguments.

[b_t]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


A lot of them, yes. Car shopping for me is usually a 6-12 month venture, driving everything I would possibly be interested in. Spending $20 or $50K is a big deal (for me). I also get enlisted to help lots of friends, family members, and coworkers find cars, which means I am driving all sorts of things from various price ranges, new and used. I also travel a lot and through rental cars I get to try out all sorts of things for weeks at a time. Obviously I have not driven every car on the road...

I have driven 2 generations of Miatas and I do not like them at all for the reasons stated above, even if I ignore their looks. Just my opinion of course, car taste is entirely subjective. The RX8 falls into the same category - do not like it at all.

all that and you ended up in a 2010 Civic sedan?

[slinkie]

Originally posted by b_t


all that and you ended up in a 2010 Civic sedan?

tHe CaLLoUt

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by b_t


all that and you ended up in a 2010 Civic sedan?

When I moved downtown and my driving KM dropped to ~5,000 km a year tops, yes I got rid of the S4. I started shopping around the $25-30K mark for a few months, and then decided that I just don't need anything more than a Civic for my current usage, so I then spent a few months looking for a perfect sample (surprisingly hard to find a good sample of a used economy car with so many people using them as C-Train station commuters). Nowadays when I get to try out some of the higher end stuff, it's usually with a friend or coworker shopping the segment.


Originally posted by slinkie


tHe CaLLoUt

Lol, why I currently drive a Civic is no secret and hasn't been for quite some time now :dunno:. I require a vehicle like once a week compared to my previous 30km daily commute. It's almost 5 years old now and has under 30,000 KM.

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by b_t


all that and you ended up in a 2010 Civic sedan?

That's pretty funny, but it does seem to work for him as a commuter :D

[Crazyjoker77]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


When I moved downtown and my driving KM dropped to ~5,000 km a year tops, yes I got rid of the S4. I started shopping around the $25-30K mark for a few months, and then decided that I just don't need anything more than a Civic for my current usage, so I then spent a few months looking for a perfect sample (surprisingly hard to find a good sample of a used economy car with so many people using them as C-Train station commuters). Nowadays when I get to try out some of the higher end stuff, it's usually with a friend or coworker shopping the segment.



Lol, why I currently drive a Civic is no secret and hasn't been for quite some time now :dunno:. I require a vehicle like once a week compared to my previous 30km daily commute. It's almost 5 years old now and has under 30,000 KM.

That logic seems completely backwards. Buy a commuter car when you no longer need to commute??? Sounds like you should of had a commuter before and sold it to get yourself a nice toy, since now you can keep it low KM and aren't forced to drive it when conditions aren't nice(which is what most low budget car guys dream of, since they usually cant afford to have multiple vehicles). Hell, there is a good chance you would drive more if you weren't stuck in a shitbox economy car...

Following your logic shouldn't you of ended up with a scooter or even a pair of roller blades.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Crazyjoker77


That logic seems completely backwards. Buy a commuter car when you no longer need to commute??? Sounds like you should of had a commuter before and sold it to get yourself a nice toy, since now you can keep it low KM and aren't forced to drive it when conditions aren't nice(which is what most low budget car guys dream of, since they usually cant afford to have multiple vehicles). Hell, there is a good chance you would drive more if you weren't stuck in a shitbox economy car...

Following your logic shouldn't you of ended up with a scooter or even a pair of roller blades.

Shoes, actually. I walk to work every day, I don't have a commute really.

I don't want to watch a $50-80K car depreciate heavily every year while I drive it once a week tops. I need a car to go to my gym, GF's place, shopping, run errands, etc. The frequency at which I do those things would not increase or decrease based on the type of car I had.

I don't agree with buying a nice car just to have it sit around 99% of the time. If I drove to/from work or was still in University and actually spent some serious time in it, I would want a nicer car. I also need to use it year round, I don't have 2 parking spots, so I can't have a second beater and not drive based on conditions alone (save for hail, brutal snow storms, etc.) I am not interested in owning a garage queen.

As soon as I have a reason to, I will spend an absurd amount of time shopping, and buy a nice car again. Just doesn't make sense with my lifestyle right now, so I live vicariously through friends/family/coworkers who enlist my help shopping for new cars haha.

More simply, my logic is to have a nice car when I spend lots of time driving, and to have a cheap car when I hardly ever spend time driving. Right now, my car costs me so little to own I don't even consider it an expense. Insurance and gas are nothing, and I don't have a payment. If I was spending a lot of money to own a car, I don't know about you but I'd actually want to use it.

Why is everyone so interested in why I have a Civic? Lol. It's not the only car I've ever owned or shopped for...


Originally posted by Hallowed_point


That's pretty funny, but it does seem to work for him as a commuter :D

I have never once used it to commute:)

[Sugarphreak]

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[Xtrema]

http://ca.autoblog.com/2014/09/15/aussie-mazda-mx-5-miata-specs-leak-suggests-power-loss/

129HP, 106lb/ft of torque. Total fail unless this is Japan/Australia only.

But not looking good on the power front.

[xnvy]

10% lighter but 13% drop in power and a longer wheelbase?!? Fuck this car.

[schocker]

Originally posted by xnvy
10% lighter but 13% drop in power and a longer wheelbase?!? Fuck this car.
But you love miatas too much, you have to get it now.
Don't you guys forget about the swooping lines and the kodo design! :rofl:

[Sugarphreak]

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[xnvy]

Originally posted by schocker

But you love miatas too much, you have to get it now.
Don't you guys forget about the swooping lines and the kodo design! :rofl: nooo :cry: don't make me!

Kodo doesn't belong on a Miata and when Mazda said the Miata was going back to it's roots I didn't expect them to reduce the power figure to what it was 20 years ago. Fuck. If they were going to do that the least they could have done is taken out the airbags and gave us some pop-ups. Fuck. This. Car.

[Xtrema]

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/09/11/2016-mazda-mx5-miata-power-folding-hardtop-report/

No PRHT either, not sure why since 52% of Miata were sold with PRHT.

[Mibz]

Ooooooh, this hype train got derailed pretty quickly.

[Sugarphreak]

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[msommers]

Originally posted by Xtrema
http://ca.autoblog.com/2014/09/15/aussie-mazda-mx-5-miata-specs-leak-suggests-power-loss/

129HP, 106lb/ft of torque. Total fail unless this is Japan/Australia only.

But not looking good on the power front.

All previous miatas I never gave the time of day because they were ugly as sin but this latest one wasn't too bad since it has a bit more of a edge on it. But these numbers are just so disheartening I don't know how anyone could get even remotely excited about it.

[Darkane]

I would expect 10 more ft/lbs torque if it's DI like Hondas 1.5.

That said there will be a higher performance version. I'm guessing 180hp.

Just wait, mark my words!

[pheoxs]

Originally posted by Darkane
I would expect 10 more ft/lbs torque if it's DI like Hondas 1.5.

That said there will be a higher performance version. I'm guessing 180hp.

Just wait, mark my words!

Better hope is that North America gets the 2.0 in the Mazda 3 instead

[killramos]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
This is how Mazda weeds out the "unworthy" fan boys :rofl:

It secretly doubles output the second you hit 100,000 km :burnout:

:rofl:

[Mibz]

Originally posted by Darkane
That said there will be a higher performance version. I'm guessing 180hp.
there will be a higher performance version
I'm guessing 180hp.
higher performance
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[Darkane]

^ lol fucker.

It's happening!! Zomgbbq.