Ktm Rc390

[Modelexis]

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/popular/2014-ktm-rc390/

Curious to see what the price tag becomes in USA/Canada.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/2014-ktm-rc390-official/2014-ktm-rc390-01.jpg

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/2014-ktm-rc390-official/2014-ktm-rc390-06.jpg

Making 43hp from its 373cc thumper, the KTM RC390 is a tiny but stout machine, especially when you consider its 324 lbs wet weight (sans fuel in its 2.64 gallon tank).

Fitted with ABS brakes, braking is done at the front via a radially mounted caliper and 300mm single-brake disc, while a 230mm disc is fitted to the rear.

[japan_us]

Originally posted by Modelexis
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/popular/2014-ktm-rc390/

Curious to see what the price tag becomes in USA/Canada.


Probably expensive enough to make the bike unpopular here. I could see it being difficult to get a hold of, or not available at all.

The article says that it should be under 6k Euros, which is ~$8500CND. Let’s assume that it’s just under, but even at $8k I just don’t see many North Americans taking this over a used 600 or litre. We (North Americans) don’t embrace the small bike like the Europeans do, and those that do will likely just take on the cheaper Kawi and Honda offerings.

Personally, I think it’s a rad little bike. Not as awesome as the RS125, but I’d have a go on one.

[16hypen3sp]

How'd I miss this thread...

Why does KTM make their front ends so damn ugly? Other than that, great looking machine.

"MSRP has yet to be announced, but “a price competitive with class rivals” is the word from a KTM North America spokesman in attendance. With the 2015 CBR300R ABS at $4899, we suspect the RC390 represents a good $600 or so added value. Hard times or not, entry-level and enthusiasts shopping for a lightweight sportbike have never been so lucky as now."

http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/09/03/2015-ktm-rc390-sportbike-motorcycle-review-first-ride-photos/

[Mista Bob]

Originally posted by japan_us


Probably expensive enough to make the bike unpopular here. I could see it being difficult to get a hold of, or not available at all.

The article says that it should be under 6k Euros, which is ~$8500CND. Let’s assume that it’s just under, but even at $8k I just don’t see many North Americans taking this over a used 600 or litre. We (North Americans) don’t embrace the small bike like the Europeans do, and those that do will likely just take on the cheaper Kawi and Honda offerings.

Personally, I think it’s a rad little bike. Not as awesome as the RS125, but I’d have a go on one.

Keep in mind this thing is made in India so it can be cheap.Plus NA prices are never anywhere close to being a straight currency conversion with european prices, everything is much cheaper here.

[jacky4566]

japan_us. Is it not common in Europe to tax based on engine size? Thus making these little bikes more affordable once you do the math? There is no consequence to riding a litre bike here so people will because its just as affordable. idk. Discus?

[ddduke]

Seeing as how I have a massive problem with buying a handful of bikes every year I would definitely go with one of these as a strictly city commuter. Not at anywhere near 8k though, for 5000 or even 5500 I'd be first on the list to grab one. If they were $8000, after dealer fees and taxes it'd be closer to 9k and at that point I'd way rather spend the extra $500-$1000 and pick up a used rc8.

[Mista Bob]

Originally posted by jacky4566
japan_us. Is it not common in Europe to tax based on engine size? Thus making these little bikes more affordable once you do the math? There is no consequence to riding a litre bike here so people will because its just as affordable. idk. Discus?

Not just higher taxes, but massively higher insurance costs for everything.
Add in their vastly higher fuel prices and motorcycles become the perfect cost effective mode of transportation vs cars in every way. Where as in North America motorcycles are mainly viewed as being for recreation.

[japan_us]

Originally posted by Mista Bob


Keep in mind this thing is made in India so it can be cheap.Plus NA prices are never anywhere close to being a straight currency conversion with european prices, everything is much cheaper here.

True enough, though the estimated prices I've been reading are "low to mid 5000s" in USD. So, maybe make that an even $6k for Canada, plus all that extra stuff for a new bike - could be up to $6500 all in? That's a pretty decent used supersport or even litre bike.

I dunno, I just see too many new riders get tempted by the fastest bike they can get their hands on. As you said, it's more of a toy/luxury here, so practicality/logic often go out the window. Hopefully offerings such as this start to adjust the North American attitude towards small bikes, because that is what this KTM is at the end of the day.

Based on what's known about it, I think it's an awesome bike, and if the price is right, I'm in.

[Graham_A_M]

I'm glad to see a street legal version of this bike is going to be made available. With that I'm a lot more open to picking one of these up

[Rocket1k78]

I cant see this being a huge seller for us. Its will be way more than the hondas or kawis in that CC class and typically the buyers of that category are newer riders so they wont appreciate the upgrades of the KTM. KTM is also a very niche brand when it comes to sport bikes so the newbs will most likely stick to the well knowns like honda or kawi. My guess would be around that $8000 mark if not more.

[ercchry]

i think this bike would complement my collection very well... not a new rider, but also not a fan of the big supersports... was thinking a new CB500 but if this is within $1500 of that, then sold

[japan_us]

Quite a bit of interest - maybe we can get a group discount. :D

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by Rocket1k78
I cant see this being a huge seller for us. Its will be way more than the hondas or kawis in that CC class and typically the buyers of that category are newer riders so they wont appreciate the upgrades of the KTM. KTM is also a very niche brand when it comes to sport bikes so the newbs will most likely stick to the well knowns like honda or kawi. My guess would be around that $8000 mark if not more. if this bike goes for $8k, I'll keep looking. For $2k more I can get a triumph 675, which is about triple the power.
I'm open to buying a KTM, I have no reason not to, but $8k for a bike like this is really quite steep, I just hope it's less, way less then that :nut:

[Rocket1k78]

^^ if it does go for $8k this will also make it a very hard bike to justify. For just a little more you can get some street killers albeit they are 200cc more. This bike won't attract the person whos looking at the 125-250 because i'm sure the 390 will be pretty intimidating. Now you got the new riders who wanna be all manly and start out on a big boy bike and to them the 600 sounds way more bad ass than 390 and if they're almost the same price we all know where they're going to go. This bike will be like a lot of you suggested something to add to your stable and not your 1 and only.


This bike sounds like its very track oriented and fitted with some nice parts so i don't think i'm far off with $8k.

Friendly bet $20.00. If this goes for less than $7500 you win and anything over I win:poosie:

[Graham_A_M]

^ lol that works:D

[Rocket1k78]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M
^ lol that works:D

Taking the bet?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Is there VAT on bikes in Europe? If so it will appear about 20% more than it will cost in the USA. Happens all the time when people do conversions on the Euro and freak about price with electronics, then it ends up costing nowhere near the conversion amount, but I don't know if it applies to vehicles.

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by Rocket1k78


Taking the bet?
Lol fuck yeah, a 12 Pack of sleemans is on me lol, and if I lose, many sask brews be on that biznatch

[Rocket1k78]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M

Lol fuck yeah, a 12 Pack of sleemans is on me lol, and if I lose, many sask brews be on that biznatch

Should i send you my email for the transfer now:D

[Modelexis]

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ktm-rc390-usa/


Good news small-displacement sport bike fans, as KTM North America has finally confirmed the KTM RC390 for the American market. The 375cc four-stroke single-cylinder street bike is good for 44hp, and tips the scales at 325 lbs dry.

On the larger side, displacement-wise, compared to the Honda CBR300R, Kawasaki Ninja 300, and Yamaha YZF-R3, the KTM RC390 also packs a bit more on the price tag. Pricing will be $5,499 MSRP, in the United States.

[16hypen3sp]

Not a bad price.

[Rocket1k78]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M

Lol fuck yeah, a 12 Pack of sleemans is on me lol, and if I lose, many sask brews be on that biznatch

Where do i send the Sleemans:(

I thought for sure that thing was going to be more but i guess they want a huge piece of the 300-400cc pie.

[Modelexis]

Just got back from the bike show and the price listed was 5,999

[japan_us]

^I came away impressed. You can tell it's a smaller bike, but it's not bad to look at. And, it doesn't feel small when you're on it. Then again, I'm only 5'9", so most bikes work just fine for me. :D

[Modelexis]

It's official:

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/calgary/2015-ktm-rc390/1048564363?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

[Graham_A_M]

^ Frick. Only $6,000 damn I want one

[ercchry]

Im actually surprised its still only $6k since our dollar has slid as much as it has

[ddduke]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M
^ Frick. Only $6,000 damn I want one

+fees and taxes so closer to 7

I don't think I could justify anything over $5500 all in on one of those things.

But if anyone buys one and wants to sell mid season for $5500 I'd be willing to take theirs for sure.

[ercchry]

i've been doing some serious thinking on this... think im going to toss a deposit down, but on the duke version instead. the duke is more upright, naked sport... just suits me better.

was looking at the 690 too, but for the price difference i dont see the value, i've had a few bikes in this power range, but this bastard is so damn light i think its going to be great fun and keep me out of too much trouble. was looking at the cb500f too... but its only 2hp more and 40kg heavier and i believe the same price if not a couple bucks more

[Rocket1k78]

The duke is a sexy ass bike but get the 690, the 390 will get boring fast imo. The RC 390 is a cool looking bike but its tiny in real life. Im no CC snob by any means but seeing a grown man on a small bike is not right

[ercchry]

See, im weird though... bike history went gsxr750>cbr600>cb500 (1973)>buell blast>cx500... still have the cb500 and cx500, cb500 is SMALL... but still fun, cx500 is pretty big after the new frame changes... think the 390 will suit me fine, been like 6 years? since i ditched the gsxr and i have no desire to go back

[Mista Bob]

Slow bikes are so much more fun on the street.

[ekguy]

If its anywhere near 8 grand it wont sell...hell i find out today if i got approved for a 2007 ducati and i barely would be over 8 g's...why would anyone pay that much for such a small bike???

Looks fantastic though and is spec'ed out decently.

[JfuckinC]

That would be fun if i wasn't so big :cry:

[Zero102]

Originally posted by Modelexis
It's official:

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/calgary/2015-ktm-rc390/1048564363?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true



Originally posted by Graham_A_M
^ Frick. Only $6,000 damn I want one



Originally posted by ekguy
If its anywhere near 8 grand it wont sell...hell i find out today if i got approved for a 2007 ducati and i barely would be over 8 g's...why would anyone pay that much for such a small bike???

Looks fantastic though and is spec'ed out decently.


As mentioned already, it is quite a bit under $8k

[ercchry]

uh... its $6k... blackfoot has already listed it, duke is the naked version and is $500 less... also physical size wise... its not THAT small :nut:

Duke 390:

wheel base: 1367mm (+/- 15mm)
seat height: 800mm
ground clearance:170mm

GSX-R750:

wheel base: 1390mm
seat height: 810mm
ground clearance:130mm


but the HUGE difference?

Duke 390: 139kg
GSX-R750: 190kg


conclusion:

good handling and light, with a usable power band (on the street) is way more fun than a fucking supersport for day to day use

ps:ekguy, i hope that $8k duc is a smaller sized monster, or thats pretty insane for a first bike... hope you looked up the maintenance schedule on those fuckers too ;)

[Rocket1k78]

Originally posted by ercchry
See, im weird though... bike history went gsxr750>cbr600>cb500 (1973)>buell blast>cx500... still have the cb500 and cx500, cb500 is SMALL... but still fun, cx500 is pretty big after the new frame changes... think the 390 will suit me fine, been like 6 years? since i ditched the gsxr and i have no desire to go back

Well it wouldve helped if you listed your bike history before lol yeah if you're used to riding smaller bikes youll be fine on the RC390.


EKguy is def in for a rude awakening. What did you get?

[Cos]

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[snowcat]

Duke 1290 all the way.

Also, I thought these bikes were more for the European countries with graduated bike size and licensing?

[ercchry]

Well, put my deposit down on a duke 390... for those wondering... price isnt actually locked in yet... so the price on kijiji is being honored right now and if there is a drop in price or any rebates those will drop it lower... the "fees" are kinda steep, $700 total. As for quantity they will be requesting 10 bikes but they said it might end up only being 5, there is a few orders in on the duke already too

[ddduke]

Congrats!

That still seems really steep for what you're getting though. $5500 + $700 fees + $275 GST. There's a ton of "better" used bikes on the market in the $6500 range.

[ercchry]

Keyword "used"... its still $2500 less that a 5 year old duke 690... and half the price of a new one, i could of got a used monster.... but then i'd have a used monster :rofl:

Like i said, i have no desire for a super sport again, this is the bike that checks all the boxes for me

[16hypen3sp]

Should be a lot of fun.

[bjstare]

I hope the guy that's financing the duc is also approved for his loan to cover the maintenance haha

[ddduke]

Originally posted by ercchry
Keyword "used"... its still $2500 less that a 5 year old duke 690... and half the price of a new one, i could of got a used monster.... but then i'd have a used monster :rofl:

Like i said, i have no desire for a super sport again, this is the bike that checks all the boxes for me

All I'm getting at is that it's a ton of money for very little bike, once you rack up 2000km on it this summer it's going to depreciate like crazy. These 2 can be had for very close to the same money, maybe even less with negotiations and IMO are a much better bang for buck AND have already depreciated a fair bit so will be worth more then a used 390 next season.


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/calgary/ktm-duke-690-original-owner-like-new-mint-condition/1052997514?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/calgary/2010-ktm-690-duke/1016219969?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

[Mista Bob]

Originally posted by ddduke


All I'm getting at is that it's a ton of money for very little bike,

So is it about power or?
Every bike offers a different experience, big, small, fast, slow, or whatever.. Bike can be the "best deal" in the world, it's still not going to be worth it if it doesn't offer the riding experience you are looking for.

[ercchry]

This bike isnt going to be seen in mass numbers... aslo... its not a lot of money... hell look at even cbr250s... they drop by about $500 on the used market... oh and i dont sell bikes, i just buy more. Different strokes for different folks. I like this bike, i liked the price... bang for buck isnt the point in buying any ktm, duc, bmw, etc

[Rocket1k78]

Have to agree with ddduke that this is a lot of money for a smaller bike. This bike isnt for everyone but from the sounds of it this will be a perfect match for ercchry.

Congrats on the street slayer

[ekguy]

Originally posted by Rocket1k78


Well it wouldve helped if you listed your bike history before lol yeah if you're used to riding smaller bikes youll be fine on the RC390.


EKguy is def in for a rude awakening. What did you get?

the payments were nowhere near promised. i declined it. no need to tie myself down at the price it would have been. was an impulse.

will be looking again soon for something with a bit more juice than my teg...already had one teggy stolen...feel weird with another one.

[ekguy]

This thing looks mean as hell but the price is still high in my eyes...also still quite a small engine how much fun will this thing really be if you open it up?

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by ddduke
Congrats!

That still seems really steep for what you're getting though. $5500 + $700 fees + $275 GST. There's a ton of "better" used bikes on the market in the $6500 range. Agreed. But it's still cool to own a nice brand new bike though. All the break in is on him

[Joe-G]

Whats everyone's opinion in comparing this to the Ninja 300 and YZF-R3?

KTM still the best in its class?

[Modelexis]

Originally posted by Joe-G
Whats everyone's opinion in comparing this to the Ninja 300 and YZF-R3?

KTM still the best in its class?

The R3 has been getting amazing reviews so I don't think the RC390 will have any major advantage over it. It's gonna come down to how you fit the bike and the look you're going for I think.
Depends what category you are talking about when you say 'best'
Fastest around a track, comfort, straight speed, looks, reliability, value for money.

It's a complicated equation, gotta wait for a major reviewer to do a head-to-head.

[danno]

it seems like bikes have gone up in price over the last few years. 600's were 10k now 12k. 1000's were 12k now 17k.

got me a mv 675 over the winter. pretty happy so far, plus it was super cheap.
:D

[Joe-G]

Originally posted by Modelexis


The R3 has been getting amazing reviews so I don't think the RC390 will have any major advantage over it. It's gonna come down to how you fit the bike and the look you're going for I think.
Depends what category you are talking about when you say 'best'
Fastest around a track, comfort, straight speed, looks, reliability, value for money.

It's a complicated equation, gotta wait for a major reviewer to do a head-to-head.

Hmm sat on a couple 300s this weekend which felt pretty good for my height. I've been entertaining the idea about seriously getting into riding.

I can put up with uncomfortable, which the KTM supposedly is. My car on the street is a testament to that as I bounce around in my seat from the stiff suspension lol ...but I would definitely like the option to be able to take it to lapping day in the future/track days/etc. Im sure the R3 and 300 would be fairly decent, but the KTM may fair the best for that learning purpose?

Fairly new to this all, so Im doing all the research I can. The KTM looks like a cool bike, but wouldnt these 300s be a better bang for you buck?

http://blackfootonline.com/moto_productdetail.php?id=3841

http://blackfootonline.com/moto_productdetail.php?id=4520

I'd probably be more worried about the resale. Anyone know if KTMs generally hold their value well?

[Rocket1k78]

Originally posted by Joe-G


Hmm sat on a couple 300s this weekend which felt pretty good for my height. I've been entertaining the idea about seriously getting into riding.

I can put up with uncomfortable, which the KTM supposedly is. My car on the street is a testament to that as I bounce around in my seat from the stiff suspension lol ...but I would definitely like the option to be able to take it to lapping day in the future/track days/etc. Im sure the R3 and 300 would be fairly decent, but the KTM may fair the best for that learning purpose?

Fairly new to this all, so Im doing all the research I can. The KTM looks like a cool bike, but wouldnt these 300s be a better bang for you buck?

http://blackfootonline.com/moto_productdetail.php?id=3841

http://blackfootonline.com/moto_productdetail.php?id=4520

I'd probably be more worried about the resale. Anyone know if KTMs generally hold their value well?

The KTM is a very niche market compared to the japs so resale is hard to say, you're either going to get top dollar because there aren't many for sale or take a hit because not many people want a ktm. If you're after something easy to ride and cheap to fix i would go with kawi or yami but if you want a fairly exclusive bike i would take the KTM. The KTM is a pretty tricked out bike when you pay attention to the details.

If you're new to riding i would go with the japs first purely on price/availabilty and if after a season or 2 you feel you want to stay in the 3-400 cc range you can get the KTM.

[Go4Long]

I think it will do well in the class personally. I love the look of it, and there's a spec racing series going with them.

You guys complaining about the price being too high have clearly never looked at what KTM charges for their bikes...their 85cc two stroke dirt bike is more than this thing....seriously...$300 more. lol.

[ercchry]

well, they should be at blackfoot right now! mine is being built this week and i could of grabbed it on saturday, but as its the long weekend i wont be around. so will have to wait till tuesday!

[ekguy]

Originally posted by Joe-G
Whats everyone's opinion in comparing this to the Ninja 300 and YZF-R3?

KTM still the best in its class?

The KTM is the sportier of all the small bikes, actually has only a couple horsepower less than the cbr500r.

Gas tank is super tiny so long trips won't happen.

The r3 looks fantastic and is pretty sporty as well.

The reviews I've been reading put the cbr500r as the most predictable and boring bike of all the smaller displacement ones.

[Blue CRX]

Hey guys

Long time lurker from Vancouver but I just got into riding

I purchased a brand new r3 two weeks ago. It's a great starter bike to learn on and plan on bringing it to the track to see what I can do with it.

I also purchased a 2014 ninja 300 special edition for my girlfriend. It's also a great bike to start on.

Can't say which one is better since I'm on the r3 way more. I wanted the ktm390 but the sales guy actually said there are a lot of problems with it since it's a first year production.

Just my 2c

[ercchry]

The ktm is not a first year production... the problems are with 3rd world bikes that dont get shipped to Austria for QC, and shitty dealers that cant build and check over things properly...

But anywho... picked mine up this evening and its a fucking blast! Had more fun tonight on it than i did on the ducati 899 i was riding a coupled weeks ago in LA

This thing is so light, and the way the power comes on is just perfect. Its small, and i probably look hilarious on it at 6'1" and 210lbs... but i just banged out 80kms and feel great. I do have a pretty short in seam though at 31"

Blackfoot MIGHT have one left, but sounds like they only got a handful in.

I did have to rip the graphics off though, i dont like them, even worse in person... will be doing something a little less boy racer

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/e15/11325359_710474805741733_800513363_n.jpg