Vizio now available in Canada

[schocker]

Looks like Vizio is now available at FS and BB with TV's and sound bars. The TV's are the M and E series while the P 4k models will come in the fall. Pricing doesn't seem too bad compared to the US so now there is a slightly cheaper option if people are looking for TVs!!!!!

[heavyD]

I've read some reviews and although they are short on some features they offer good picture and black levels for the price.

[schocker]

Yup, that is why I am looking into a Model M for now, hopefully pricing comes out soon on the P. Backlit and has local dimming zones if you check out their website. So excellent features and the reviews are all quite good. 50" for $900 regular is a pretty good deal. I am not sure it looks like none of these offer 3d though?

[benyl]

Their sound bars have been at Costco Canada stores for a while.

[Xtrema]

checked them out at BB yesterday. They probably had a shitty source because they don't look that great.

But can't argue for the price and rave review on the net.

[Manhattan]

Don't skimp on the Vizio. Get what you deserve.

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But seriously about damn time. 70'' for under 2 grand. My next TV will most likely be a Vizio.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Hasn't Costco carried Vizio TV's for a while now in Canada? I could swear I saw them there quite some time ago.

Their sound bars have been here for a long time already.


Originally posted by Manhattan

But seriously about damn time. 70'' for under 2 grand. My next TV will most likely be a Vizio.

The Sharp 70's have been around $1700, and you can buy them any day of the week for a little over $2000. Not too bad.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by schocker
Yup, that is why I am looking into a Model M for now, hopefully pricing comes out soon on the P. Backlit and has local dimming zones if you check out their website. So excellent features and the reviews are all quite good. 50" for $900 regular is a pretty good deal. I am not sure it looks like none of these offer 3d though?

The 2014 models have no 3D.

[Manhattan]

A little bit off topic. Has anyone with 60+ inch TV noticed pixelation with HD content? Wondering if 4K would be a significant difference from 1080p.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Manhattan
A little bit off topic. Has anyone with 60+ inch TV noticed pixelation with HD content? Wondering if 4K would be a significant difference from 1080p.

Not on BD media. But on everything else, I have seen compression artifacts.

[lamp_shade_2000]

Saw the E series and M series at future shop. E series looks worse than the 7 year old sharp 26" in my kitchen, even after tinkering around different picture modes. I would rather buy an insignia. M series was OK but even the most basic samsung, lg, sharp look way better. Not sure how Vizio built up such a reputation if this is how they look.

And if you actually compare models before you buy, samsung 65" 120hz smart (6203 model) $1485 last week, 240hz Vizio 70" with a shittier picture, 2-2.2k not worth it.

[schocker]

^^^ All the reviews I have seen for vizio m series are quite good and on par with the competition? Could it just be the in store setup?

http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-m652i-b2

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Manhattan
A little bit off topic. Has anyone with 60+ inch TV noticed pixelation with HD content? Wondering if 4K would be a significant difference from 1080p.

Totally depends on the viewing distance. You can see pixelation on 4K TV's too if you are close enough.

At 60 and 74", I can't see pixelation until I go just a little too close for comfortable viewing with 1080P. 4K will certainly force you to go even closer before you see pixelation.

I couldn't care less about 4K at the moment, there is almost zero content. It will make the biggest difference in the projector world, much less on "normal" sized TV's at all but the closest viewing distances.

[Mr_John]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Hasn't Costco carried Vizio TV's for a while now in Canada? I could swear I saw them there quite some time ago..

They did long time ago but stopped carrying them unfortunately. Glad to see bb and fs picking them up

[corsvette]

Bought a Vizio TV at computer trends about 8 years ago. Been a good set.

Did Vizio just become available in Canada?

[schocker]

Originally posted by corsvette
Bought a Vizio TV at computer trends about 8 years ago. Been a good set.

Did Vizio just become available in Canada?

I guess widely available yes, canadian 'launch' was today. Like benyl said I do remember some vizio sound bars as costco but I think they were only ever the 2.1 versions.

I think I will look into the M502 vs the sony 50w800b as it is $850 vs $1400.

[BensonTT]

Whos Vizio? Another China brand?

[schocker]

Originally posted by BensonTT
Whos Vizio? Another China brand?


As of 2012, Vizio has over 400 employees.[4] About half work at its headquarters in Irvine, California, in engineering, design, sales, and operations, while the other half are employed at a call center in Dakota Dunes, South Dakota and Magna, Utah.[4][5]

Vizio's major partner in the consumer electronics arena is AmTran Technology, a Taiwan-based OEM/ODM that manufactures more than half of the televisions sold by Vizio[6] and owns a 23% stake in the company.[6][7] Vizio also manufactures its products in Mexico and China under agreements with ODM assemblers in those countries.[8]

[rage2]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
At 60 and 74", I can't see pixelation until I go just a little too close for comfortable viewing with 1080P.

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Regardless of brand there is a very noticeable difference between 720P and 1080P on the ~5" screens. Especially if you have them side by side, you could pick them apart every single time in a blind test at any normal viewing distances.
You can't see pixelation with HD sources on a 60 or even 74" screen, but you see a "very noticeable difference" between a 720p and 1080p display on a 5" phone screen? WTF man haha. :nut:

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by rage2

You can't see pixilation with HD sources on a 60 or even 74" screen, but you see a "very noticeable difference" between a 720p and 1080p display on a 5" phone screen? WTF man haha. :nut:

I view a phone 6-12" from my face, and I sit ~8 feet from my TV's. It's all about viewing distance, and also content size. I'm rarely trying to view incredibly small detail on my Tv or projector screen, however when trying to read a desktop webpage on my phone a few inches from my face, I will take all the resolution I can possibly get.

I can EASILY see pixelation on my TV's or screen when I walk closer to them. I purposely sit at a distance where I *can't* see pixelation. That distance is far more variable with phones, and I can't think of any time I am trying to read tons of super tiny print on my TV. Pixelation is also much more noticable on stationary images, which TV's rarely have.

[GoChris]

I'll check them out as my almost 8 year old Sony 46 could use an upgrade.

Also Costco did carry Vizio tvs 1.5 years ago for a bit, as I have one.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by rage2
You can't see pixelation with HD sources on a 60 or even 74" screen, but you see a "very noticeable difference" between a 720p and 1080p display on a 5" phone screen? WTF man haha. :nut:

Never underestimate the power that fanboyism holds over people's minds. It can make you believe you are actually seeing something you aren't.:rofl:

[ZenOps]

Been running a Vizio for almost 5 years now. Great set, excellent picture, proper 120 hz smoothing.

The particular model I have is not repairable, if the boards burn out, there is no way to drop in another one. I even think the backlights are soldered in and not replaceable.

Still... These things are meant to be thrown out after 5 to 7 years or so anyhow.

[benyl]

Originally posted by heavyD


Never underestimate the power that fanboyism holds over people's minds. It can make you believe you are actually seeing something you aren't.:rofl:

My eyes must be going because of old age. On my shitty iPhone 5, the letters in the photo below have crisp lines and I can't see pixels even with my eyeball touching the screen. It's at full zoom. You can see pixels on the smiley cause they are shirty resolution.

Some folks must have eagle eyes. Or maybe android screens suck shit. Hahaha

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/bwinkelm/7A4A6051-8E59-42E8-8B57-D4D3B853FB8B_zpso330ejfd.png (http://s1216.photobucket.com/user/bwinkelm/media/7A4A6051-8E59-42E8-8B57-D4D3B853FB8B_zpso330ejfd.png.html)

[schocker]

P series is now available. I am thinkinf of picking up the 50". FS has it for $1139. Has anyone checked them out?
Review seems pretty good

http://www.rtings.com/reviews/tv/lcd-led/vizio/p-series

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by schocker
P series is now available. I am thinkinf of picking up the 50". FS has it for $1139. Has anyone checked them out?
Review seems pretty good

http://www.rtings.com/reviews/tv/lcd-led/vizio/p-series

The only P series to possibly avoid is the 55", which has worse contrast than the other sizes due to the IPS panel they are using. The other sizes, including the 50", use a VA panel. I wouldn't be surprised if color reproduction was a little better on the 55 though.

I think these will be very successful here, they are priced really well and are one of the very few full array LED TV's even available.

4K is kind of pointless these days with almost zero content though, you may be better served by the "M" series. You can get some VERY cheap 50" TV's if you are OK with 1080P.

[Tik-Tok]

Am hoping someone will have the Vizio's on sale for black friday, because I'm cheap as fuck :rofl:

[schocker]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
The only P series to possibly avoid is the 55", which has worse contrast than the other sizes due to the IPS panel they are using. The other sizes, including the 50", use a VA panel. I wouldn't be surprised if color reproduction was a little better on the 55 though.

I think these will be very successful here, they are priced really well and are one of the very few full array LED TV's even available.

4K is kind of pointless these days with almost zero content though, you may be better served by the "M" series. You can get some VERY cheap 50" TV's if you are OK with 1080P.
I like the 4k because it just seems like a better TV compared to the M due to the large number of local dimming zones and then also 4k netflix.

http://www.rtings.com/reviews/tv/lcd-led/vizio/m-series

The 1080p tv I had been leaning towards was the Sony 50W800B as it is supposed to be very good for games with low input lag but it is about the same price as the P 50".


Originally posted by Tik-Tok
Am hoping someone will have the Vizio's on sale for black friday, because I'm cheap as fuck :rofl:
I believe until christmas FS has price protection until january :D

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by schocker

I believe until christmas FS has price protection until january :D




The Price Beat Promise has been extended!

During the holidays you can apply for a price beat on items you buy from November 1st until January 4th instead of the regular 30-day limit.

Please note that we will not process any price adjustments from December 24th to 27th.

Remember, the Price Beat promise does not apply to Black Friday, Cyber Monday, or Boxing Week sale prices.



:( http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/help/our-price-beat-promise/hc80.aspx

[schocker]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok
:( http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/help/our-price-beat-promise/hc80.aspx
whoops, i didn't read the details obviously. Just buy it online again then and return it with the old receipt :rofl:

[ZenOps]

50 incher now $929 CDN, Vizio still has not established a good customer base yet.

At the rate people are scared of buying stuff in Calgary, it might be a worthwhile pickup.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/vizio-vizio-50-4k-ultra-hd-240hz-led-smart-tv-p502ui-b1-black-p502ui-b1/10321293.aspx

I'm tempted by it because it seems to be one of the rare 4K that is rumored to have one 1920x1080 at 120 hz input (or 4k resolution at 60hz) I used to game on CRT's at 1024x768 at 120hz over ten years ago, and never really got used to being forced onto 60hz inputs.

UfChe_7eH00

[schocker]

^^^ Yeah, I saw that in the FS flyer. It is pretty tempting at that price as the 50" 1080p sony I was contemplating is only like $50 less.

This is the reason I have held off for now:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1381724-official-4-4-4-chroma-subsampling-thread.html

[ZenOps]

Yup, still very early for 4K (especially gaming)

https://developer.nvidia.com/4k-ultra-high-resolution-development

The main reason not to jump is because most 4K TVs only use HDMI 1.4, which is max 30hz at 4K resolutions. I wouldn't even think about gaming at 30FPS.

Right now, the roundabout way to do 4K at 60hz is to use a videocard with a displayport adaptor actively converted to HDMI. A straight HDMI cable right now will probably not give you 4K 60hz.

But it might be wise to just wait for HDMI 2.0 compliant videocards and other components.

Its a gigantic leap for computer resolutions though. I can still remember 640x480.

[schocker]

The vizio does have 5 hdmi 2.0 but only one of them can do 4k @ 60hz. The 4:4:4 vs 4:2:2 is the only dumb thing for now.

[ZenOps]

You could also consider Changhong They sell... Wait for it. A 42" 4K HDTV.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889624008&cm_re=chonghang-_-89-624-008-_-Product

Thats at the bargain basement end.

I'm sure its primarly targetted as a computer monitor replacement where you will be sitting about three feet from the screen.

[blairtruck]

my sis in law is now 2 weeks into owning the 55" 4k element tv she got at target for $499. she is pleased with her purchase but is no expert for sure. i haven't seen it yet. and i doubt she is watching any 4k stuff on it yet.

[schocker]

Yeah, I have seen those cheap ones around, also the korean monitors but would still rather buy a name brand (generally samsung etc.) for a bit more (Vizio is kind of a stretch for this)

[ZenOps]

From what I've heard 4:2:0 is not a huge dealbreaker for TV watchers as nearly no broadcast programming broadcasts at 4:4:4.

Thing is: I don't think I've ever physically watched 4:4:4 TV as they have never broadcast it, so I really have no comparison or way to know if its worth the extra bits or not. They might have replaced it with that "REC._2020" based on some weird math algorythm that only a genius could comprehend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._2020

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

"HDMI 2.0 supports the Rec. 2020 color space.[16] HDMI 2.0 can transmit 12-bit per sample RGB at a resolution of 2160p and a frame rate of 24/25/30 fps or it can transmit 12-bits per sample 4:2:2/4:2:0 YCbCr at a resolution of 2160p and a frame rate of 50/60 fps"

They added the ability to "downgrade" to 4:2:0 in HDMI 2.0 to use the bits for other things, most notably 60Hz at 4K. If you want to run 4:4:4, it will probably still be there, just limited to 30hz.

[schocker]

Yeah, I have been looking into it a bit today as my interest is high again
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1689258-official-2014-vizio-p-series-owner-s-thread-424.html
that is a good owner thread to figure out settings/issues. I have seen it in person and the picture was awesome, so maybe an early birthday gift for myself at this price.

[ZenOps]

Heads up Bestbuy has the 4K M70-C3 for $2,329.99

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/vizio-vizio-70-4k-ultra-hd-240hz-led-smart-tv-m70-c3-silver-m70-c3/10367978.aspx

Probably will go fast.

[blairtruck]

i have a 65" 1080 vizio i got from costco 6 months ago for $999 and $50 for extended warranty to 5 years. Love it. i only use it for xbox one gaming thou.

it was on for 999 again last week

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by ZenOps
Heads up Bestbuy has the 4K M70-C3 for $2,329.99

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/vizio-vizio-70-4k-ultra-hd-240hz-led-smart-tv-m70-c3-silver-m70-c3/10367978.aspx

Probably will go fast.

Regular price is $2399 at Costco, lol.

[schocker]

Yeah, costco appears to have most of the same sizes as bestbuy now. 43" seems like a nice size but then I bought a shotgun instead :rofl:

[heavyD]

You really can't go wrong with the M-series for value as the black levels are great and the picture looks fantastic especially via blue ray or quality HD stream.

[navdeep]

any one else have these tvs I'm looking at there 70"

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by navdeep
any one else have these tvs I'm looking at there 70"

There's another place that sells them posted on this page.

http://forums.beyond.ca/st2/vizio-now-available-in-canada/showthread.php?s=&postid=4479983#post4479983

[EK69]

how do you guys that have vizio tv's find the apps on them?
what kind of apps do the tv's come with?
can you download additional apps?

[Tik-Tok]

I only use the netflix app. Its decent. Just look up Yahoo Tv Apps

[heavyD]

Originally posted by EK69
how do you guys that have vizio tv's find the apps on them?
what kind of apps do the tv's come with?
can you download additional apps?

I have Apple TV connected so I don't really pay attention to the TV apps.

[blairtruck]

i only use the netflix app and its the same as my ipad.

[schocker]

New P-Series announced today. 4k HDR starting at 50". Now comes with a 6" tablet remote. Basically a stripped down android tablet that functions as a tablet and remote with wireless charging. Now instead of smart tv, you use google cast instead. A normal remote is also included. 126-128 LED dimming zones based on size (50", 55", 65" & 75" but Canada usually gets different sizing) 120hz 50 and the others are 240. I am not sure but it seems as if it supports 4k at 120? I know on my M, only one port is 4k 60 the others are 4k 30.

http://www.vizio.com/p-series (Have to make sure your region is US otherwise it shows last gen)

jtE8N8Fpj4g

cooool! :D

edit: Looks like a new M and E series are also coming. M has HDR but not the wide color gamut and E series is now 4k also so Vizio will be all 4K. M also gets the tablet remote. Kind of wish I had waited for the 2016 M but oh well, still happy with my 43"

[Disoblige]

Make sure if you buy a Vizio, it's in store lol.
Never get a 70" TV shipped in the mail, they're not made for that kind of handling. I tried getting one shipped to me (out of town), and twice it came broken or with severe pressure points everywhere. Luckily Amazon was cool about it and even offered to send another, but I was like, fuck no.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Disoblige
Make sure if you buy a Vizio, it's in store lol.
Never get a 70" TV shipped in the mail, they're not made for that kind of handling. I tried getting one shipped to me (out of town), and twice it came broken or with severe pressure points everywhere. Luckily Amazon was cool about it and even offered to send another, but I was like, fuck no.
I can imagine with a panel that big. I got my 43" shipped to my office and then just man handled the 4 blocks to my car. I know bestbuy has a good selection in store, but costco really never got many models in stock. I know my 43" was never in store so I bought it online and it seems as if they prefer to stock the D-Series which is kind of a gimped M series.

[blitz]

I bought my 55" through Costco.ca and it arrived in perfect shape, but I can see 70" being a different beast for the UPS driver :rofl:

[riander5]

I have a 70"

Looks great on games, but sports even with HD are a bit grainy. Not sure if i have it calibrated correctly. Also could be the fact its in my condo and I sit only 6 feet away from it :nut:

[sputnik]

Originally posted by riander5
I have a 70"

Looks great on games, but sports even with HD are a bit grainy. Not sure if i have it calibrated correctly. Also could be the fact its in my condo and I sit only 6 feet away from it :nut:

Who sits 6 feet from a 70" screen?

That is your problem.

[schocker]

Looks like they are working on google cast enabled speakers too!

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/22/11278348/vizio-speakers-google-cast-announced

More details coming in the summer. I could get behind these as sonos is getting pretty expensive. Hopefully they start updating their sound bars too.

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[nj2Type-S]

does anybody have this tv? it looks like a pretty sweet deal.

http://m.bestbuy.ca/?lang=en#/catalog/productdetails.aspx?ajax=true&sku=10367968&lang=en-CA

i bought a 55" samsung (un55ju6400f), and i hate how the picture looks like i'm watching a soap opera. it just looked so weird lol...so i'm thinking of replacing it with this vizio. thoughts??

edit: i figured out how to disable that "soap opera" look lol. i just want a bigger tv now, i guess lol

[schocker]

No experience with the E series, but here is a thorough review from rtings
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/e-series-2015

[phreezee]

Quite the progression in sentiment in this thread over the past 2 years. I'm making the jump from Samsung to Vizio this summer after being Samsung exclusively for over a decade. Probably stick with the M series since the tablet remote would be redundant with my Harmony/iPad.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Is Vizio still only using IPS panels on select sizes?

I'm eventually going to have to break down and buy an LCD with nobody making Plasmas anymore.

[schocker]

Originally posted by phreezee
Quite the progression in sentiment in this thread over the past 2 years. I'm making the jump from Samsung to Vizio this summer after being Samsung exclusively for over a decade. Probably stick with the M series since the tablet remote would be redundant with my Harmony/iPad.
New M series comes with the tablet too!!!!! :rofl:

Not sure when we will actually see the new ones up here though. P will be first though. Hopefully it sticks to similar pricing of the last gen P.


Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Is Vizio still only using IPS panels on select sizes?

I'm eventually going to have to break down and buy an LCD with nobody making Plasmas anymore.
Probably. It was weird with the M I think the 50" was the only IPS? I ended up with the 43" anyways, but they don't really make it easy to find out without checking rtings or avsforum.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by schocker


Probably. It was weird with the M I think the 50" was the only IPS? I ended up with the 43" anyways, but they don't really make it easy to find out without checking rtings or avsforum.

Yeah with the P series the 55" was the only one with an IPS panel, and has way better viewing angles (and probably color accuracy) than it's siblings. You're right though it isn't that easy to find out - it should be an advertised attribute much like it is on monitors. Or maybe when the Plasma dies I'll be able to afford a huge OLED haha.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Yeah with the P series the 55" was the only one with an IPS panel, and has way better viewing angles (and probably color accuracy) than it's siblings. You're right though it isn't that easy to find out - it should be an advertised attribute much like it is on monitors. Or maybe when the Plasma dies I'll be able to afford a huge OLED haha.
IPS will have worse blacks than VA though so I avoided the IPS as I have it in a smaller room viewing straight on. I can understand in larger rooms wanting the wider angle. It is not something they advertise though as it seems to only be one size per model. Just ends up being whose panel they use I suppose.

[riander5]

Originally posted by sputnik


Who sits 6 feet from a 70" screen?

That is your problem.

I do

Not by choice, but by condo layout.

Xbox one games still look amazing on it, as do HD netflix shows. Just sports seem to suffer from sitting that close

Maybe i should get rogers 4k baseball package :drool:

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by riander5


I do

Not by choice, but by condo layout.

Xbox one games still look amazing on it, as do HD netflix shows. Just sports seem to suffer from sitting that close

Maybe i should get rogers 4k baseball package :drool:

I sit ~7 feet from a 74". Any further it would seem small. Everything including sports look great. It's my condo layout that limits me as well in that particular room.

[schocker]

Review is out for the P:
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/p-series-2016

Looks really good except for poor sound quality but who uses TV sound anyways.

[Hero_X]

Have any of you vizio owners noticed a glitch, where the screen just goes black for a split second and then reloads the picture? It's as if the HDMI got reconnected or something... It would re-display which HDMI input I'm on.

it often happens with my Vizio M60 and not sure if it's a defect or a firmware problem or what.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Haha I hope they weight the TV speaker quality no more than 1% in their ratings.

Their black uniformity rating seems weird:

2016 vizio P series - Black uniformity "almost perfect" 10/10

LG OLED - Black uniformity 'is perfect" 9.9/10 lol

HeroX - it could be your source as well, or a HDMI handshake issue

[Escape]

Originally posted by Hero_X
Have any of you vizio owners noticed a glitch, where the screen just goes black for a split second and then reloads the picture? It's as if the HDMI got reconnected or something... It would re-display which HDMI input I'm on.

it often happens with my Vizio M60 and not sure if it's a defect or a firmware problem or what.

It's almost certainly a HDMI handshake issue... Is this happening with a cable/optik TV box ?

[Hero_X]

It's happening with my hdmi connected devices (android tv, etc).

How do u fix a hdmi handshake issue? :dunno:

[Escape]

Originally posted by Hero_X
It's happening with my hdmi connected devices (android tv, etc).

How do u fix a hdmi handshake issue? :dunno:

Did you try a different hdmi port on your TV and a different hdmi cable?

[killramos]

Are the new P's actually for sale anywhere? They don't even show up on the Vizio website?

My Aquos just shit the bed ( inside 3 fucking years ) so I am begrudgingly starting the hunt for something new. Unplugged it and will let it sit for the evening. TV boots up and shows picture, but within about 10 seconds the panel just seemingly dies, tv stays on. Almost as if it was high temperaturing out or something. But the tv was cool all over. Been trying to find some kind of a fix but the internet is pretty barren.

Needless to say I am not hopeful, and today is not a good fucking day.

My thoughts initially turn to the M70 C3 as a direct replacement, and for a reasonable price. Gain 4k, better blacks etc. But if something newer is on the cusp of showing up in stores I can find something else to do with my time for a few weeks. Havent looked too hard at other brands yet but it seems like no one is really touching Vizio's price point,especialyl value, and considering I am replacing my Aquos YEARS sooner than I anticipated I am not too eager to drop too much on a more expensive brand atm.

[schocker]

I think they are rolling out in the US first as if you change your region they show up. I think it would be worth waiting as both the M and P have HDR which could be the hot new thing. Not sure how long of a wait it could be though. Can't remember how long it took the last M to showup as I was waiting for costco to get it in store but they never did.

[Kavy]

Originally posted by Hero_X
Have any of you vizio owners noticed a glitch, where the screen just goes black for a split second and then reloads the picture? It's as if the HDMI got reconnected or something... It would re-display which HDMI input I'm on.

it often happens with my Vizio M60 and not sure if it's a defect or a firmware problem or what.

I would bet on it being the HDMI cable as mentioned above. I had the same issue when I was using a piece of shit one, haven't seen the issue since.

[move]

Thinking of picking up a vizio 55" from costco... but it seems that all TVs nowadays only come as smart TV's?

Do you guys even use the smart TV functions? I'm planning on hooking up my TV to my mac mini and streaming everything.

Are there any better alternatives? (Obvs not a tech geek by any means)

[schocker]

Originally posted by move
Thinking of picking up a vizio 55" from costco... but it seems that all TVs nowadays only come as smart TV's?

Do you guys even use the smart TV functions? I'm planning on hooking up my TV to my mac mini and streaming everything.

Are there any better alternatives? (Obvs not a tech geek by any means)
It is just something they throw in. I only use mine if I want to watch 4k netflix, otherwise I use my chromecast or xbox. Once I actually set up my 4k firetv then I will just use that instead.

[Mitsu3000gt]

For the price difference in the same panel smart vs not smart, you can usually buy one of the best media players available (or a chromecast or similar if that's all you need) which is vastly superior to anything the TV builds in. It's getting harder and harder though to buy the "basic" TV's since just about everything is "smart" now, especially in the higher end panels.

[spike98]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
For the price difference in the same panel smart vs not smart, you can usually buy one of the best media players available (or a chromecast or similar if that's all you need) which is vastly superior to anything the TV builds in. It's getting harder and harder though to buy the "basic" TV's since just about everything is "smart" now, especially in the higher end panels.

The only ones worth it are the ones with Android TV built in and there is only a handful on the market. I dont think Vizio makes one yet.

Android TV = Kodi

[schocker]

Originally posted by spike98
The only ones worth it are the ones with Android TV built in and there is only a handful on the market. I dont think Vizio makes one yet.

Android TV = Kodi
Vizio has that new tablet setup though which looks pretty slick. I think only a few vendors have google cast built in one of them being Sony. Samsung is running with their tizen OS.

[NoSup4U]

Originally posted by killramos
Are the new P's actually for sale anywhere? They don't even show up on the Vizio website?

My Aquos just shit the bed ( inside 3 fucking years ) so I am begrudgingly starting the hunt for something new. Unplugged it and will let it sit for the evening. TV boots up and shows picture, but within about 10 seconds the panel just seemingly dies, tv stays on. Almost as if it was high temperaturing out or something. But the tv was cool all over. Been trying to find some kind of a fix but the internet is pretty barren.

Needless to say I am not hopeful, and today is not a good fucking day.

My thoughts initially turn to the M70 C3 as a direct replacement, and for a reasonable price. Gain 4k, better blacks etc. But if something newer is on the cusp of showing up in stores I can find something else to do with my time for a few weeks. Havent looked too hard at other brands yet but it seems like no one is really touching Vizio's price point,especialyl value, and considering I am replacing my Aquos YEARS sooner than I anticipated I am not too eager to drop too much on a more expensive brand atm.

The 2016 M and P series are now showing on the Costco website, although only a few of the P (I believe 50 and 55)

I just picked up a 2016 4K D series to replace a higher end Samsung in the master, and for half the price I paid for the Samsung 5 years ago.

I can see why people are giving this brand such props. Great price, and great picture, even for their low end model, so I can imagine how great an image you can get from the M or P.

For the price difference, and on par picture, I'm for sure going to Vizio as all the Samsung's need replacing, possibly sooner if the M70-D3 goes on sale :angel:

Only downside, calibration takes A LOT of work on these TV's.

[schocker]

Apparently the new M series doesn't have real HDR or something because it doesn't have a 10 bit panel so apparently the P series is the one to get if you want the best picture.

Also they support Dolby Vision HDR but will have a firmware update in August to support HDR 10 which is what the Xbox One S uses for example.

[riander5]

Any tips on calibrating? I followed a few online guides for my 70 inch p series and it seemed to help a bit but i have a feeling i still have lots of room for improvement

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by riander5
Any tips on calibrating? I followed a few online guides for my 70 inch p series and it seemed to help a bit but i have a feeling i still have lots of room for improvement

You need a colorometer and software if you want to do it properly (assuming the TV lets you adjust absolutely everything). The quick & dirty way is to go to the review sites like Rtings or similar and grab their settings. Are the Vizio's that bad from the factory?

[schocker]

^^^I have used rtings for my m series. Picture is pretty good. From the factory it was OK and there are the different presets, but the rtings settings is great for movies.

[thetransporter]

i have a Vizio set. i cant control it properly with the universal remote provided by cable providers .

Specifcally the menu selecting options (up down right left)

http://www.lockotronic.com/store/image/data/prod_img/IMG_2458_resize.JPG

[msommers]

How would the P-series stack up against my Panasonic ST50 plasma in terms of picture quality? There's nothing wrong with mine but it's such a pain in the ass to move which is something I seem to be doing a lot of lately lol.

[NoSup4U]

Originally posted by schocker
^^^I have used rtings for my m series. Picture is pretty good. From the factory it was OK and there are the different presets, but the rtings settings is great for movies.

I used rtings as well for a base calibration, and started from there based on the room/ my tastes.

Having a red/green color deficiency really makes it a bitch :cry: :cry:

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by msommers
How would the P-series stack up against my Panasonic ST50 plasma in terms of picture quality? There's nothing wrong with mine but it's such a pain in the ass to move which is something I seem to be doing a lot of lately lol.

Your ST50 is better than pretty much any LCD, keep that thing until it dies. Definitely more annoying to move carefully though.

[Asian_defender]

What do you guys think of the new E series?
Looking at this because the price is so attractive
Vizio E70u-D3
http://www.costco.ca/Vizio-E70u-D3-70-in.-SmartCast%E2%84%A2-4K-Ultra-HD-Home-Theater-Display.product.100299694.html

No reviews yet

[riander5]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


You need a colorometer and software if you want to do it properly (assuming the TV lets you adjust absolutely everything). The quick & dirty way is to go to the review sites like Rtings or similar and grab their settings. Are the Vizio's that bad from the factory?

Im not sure.... i just seem to have read so many reviews where before and after calibrating makes a HUGE difference (not vizio specific)

I didnt notice a massive one, so.. maybe the factory settings are alright?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Asian_defender
What do you guys think of the new E series?
Looking at this because the price is so attractive
Vizio E70u-D3
http://www.costco.ca/Vizio-E70u-D3-70-in.-SmartCast%E2%84%A2-4K-Ultra-HD-Home-Theater-Display.product.100299694.html

No reviews yet

Unless it's going in a dedicated theater room for critical viewing, you will probably notice very little difference between that TV and a higher end model once it's in your house and you have nothing to compare it to. If you just want a big ol' TV for your living room or bonus room that's a great option.



Originally posted by riander5


Im not sure.... i just seem to have read so many reviews where before and after calibrating makes a HUGE difference (not vizio specific)

I didnt notice a massive one, so.. maybe the factory settings are alright?

I don't know about that specific TV, but some models/brands are known to be very well calibrated from the factory, and some are known to be pretty bad. Same thing in the projector world. If it doesn't bother you and if it's not in a critical viewing environment I would either leave it alone or just put in some settings from a review site to get it close. Up to you how much time and effort you want to put in it. If it's just a living room TV I wouldn't care too much personally.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Unless it's going in a dedicated theater room for critical viewing, you will probably notice very little difference between that TV and a higher end model once it's in your house and you have nothing to compare it to. If you just want a big ol' TV for your living room or bonus room that's a great option.

Rtings gave it a big meh though, 6.3 overall
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/e-series-4k-2016
Looks OK for movies though, but has bad motion blur
Might be worth getting the M or seeing if costco gets a new D series which is kind of between E and M iirc.

[Asian_defender]

Originally posted by schocker

Rtings gave it a big meh though, 6.3 overall
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/e-series-4k-2016
Looks OK for movies though, but has bad motion blur
Might be worth getting the M or seeing if costco gets a new D series which is kind of between E and M iirc.

The D series is 1080P only. I would like something 4k for a little bit of futureproofing. HDR isn't really a requirement for me as I probably won't notice the difference. It's about $500 to go from the D series 70 to the E series 70 so I'm on the fence about which one to get still

[phreezee]

^ There are 4k 2016 D series and they rate 7.5 http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by schocker

Rtings gave it a big meh though, 6.3 overall
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/e-series-4k-2016
Looks OK for movies though, but has bad motion blur
Might be worth getting the M or seeing if costco gets a new D series which is kind of between E and M iirc.

I picture these TV's above a mantle in an open concept kitchen/living room combo that is in most people's homes, and families watching the news on them while they cook, or having a few buddies over the odd game. In those scenarios, I think the average user will see the greatest benefit from the "wow factor" provided by extra screen real estate rather than slightly better blacks, slightly more even back-lighting, etc. I also think of literally everyone I know who I have helped buy a TV, and they couldn't tell the difference between a $500 Haier and a $4000 Samsung 9 series. If it's going in some sort of dedicated viewing room where you can't use a projector, or if you are an enthusiast, then I would definitely recommend spending a little more on a higher end series if you will actually notice it.

[Asian_defender]

Originally posted by phreezee
^ There are 4k 2016 D series and they rate 7.5 http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio

That's chart shows it as 65 for the 4k formats

[move]

For those that have bought vizios... how long have they lasted you? Was reading up on some reviews and many users suggested buying the extended warranty through costco as vizio doesnt seem to "last long" (their words, not mine).

Thoughts and past experiences on this?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by move
For those that have bought vizios... how long have they lasted you? Was reading up on some reviews and many users suggested buying the extended warranty through costco as vizio doesnt seem to "last long" (their words, not mine).

Thoughts and past experiences on this?

I'm pretty sure the Costco warranty is $100 for 5 years on TV's over $1000 which would be an easy choice for me personally. I don't normally buy warranties but if they are that cheap I do and Costco is unlikely to screw you over. Most major credit cards also add one year to the manufacturer warranty if you want to save a bit of money.

[ZenOps]

I find that bias lighting makes more of a visual impact than one would expect. I've got a couple quality 2700K LED's pointed toward the wall behind the TV. A LED strip running behind the HDTV would be even better. 3000+K would also be better for those who aren't old farts who have grown accustomed to yellow light.

Once you understand the weaknesses of human visual perception, it makes total sense.

Side note: Original Vizio E here (very low latency, used as computer gaming screen) still going strong, almost six years.