Beyond Fall Trail Run

[Sugarphreak]

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[Sugarphreak]

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[flipstah]

Vehicle: 1973 Land Rover Series III
Dates Available: Anytime after October 24
Commitment: 100% dependent on the truck running. :rofl:

I just subscribed just so I'm in the loop.

[thinmyster]

I May be a last minute addition but potentially could come.

Vehicle: 2012 FJ Cruiser on 33’s. Anyone else running Manual Transmissions?
Dates Available: October 11th, 12th and 25th (I have the 15th to 21 off )
Commitment Level: 50% for all dates.

[Sugarphreak]

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[flipstah]

4-Speed manual for me.

[BokCh0y]

Vehicle: 1995 Toyota Tacoma on 31's - Stock Height. 5 Speed.
Dates Available: October 4th, 11th, 25th
Commitment Level: 90%

I'm down for this. Besides Flipstah, hopefully Nobb can make it too.

[nobb]

Ok, BokCh0y, just for you.

Vehicle: 1998 Toyota 4Runner w/ mild lift and MT tires. CB radio + Walkie Talkie available for communications
Dates Available: Oct 11, 25.
Commitment Level: 90%

[86max]

Vehicle: FJ Cruiser, leveled w/ 33s
Dates Available: October 4th
Commitment Level: 90%

[Redlyne_mr2]

I should be in .. later in Oct is preferable.

[Kloubek]

Vehicle: 98 Grand Cherokee 5.9. 3.5" lift, 32's AT's.
Dates Available: Weekends of October 4th/5th, 18th/19th, and 25th/26th
Commitment Level: 95%

Prefer smaller groups of 3-6. If there's lots of people, the trail gets clogged up something fierce.

[Hage69]

Vehicle: 1998 4runner 31" AT
Dates available: Depending which date as I work Saturdays and would see if I can get time off.
Commitment level: See above

Possibly bring another truck as well depending on date, keep us posted.

[Sugarphreak]

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[statick]

Vehicle: 2014 Toyota FJ Cruiser - stock
Dates Available: October 11th ,12th, 13th, 18th, 19th, 25th and 26th
Commitment Level: 100% 11/12/13, 75% for all other pending due notice

[HuMz]

I've got some cooling issues I gotta deal with before I can commit to a date.

[BokCh0y]

Originally posted by nobb
Ok, BokCh0y, just for you.

Vehicle: 1998 Toyota 4Runner w/ mild lift and MT tires. CB radio + Walkie Talkie available for communications
Dates Available: Oct 11, 25.
Commitment Level: 90%

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

You're a gem :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[AE92_TreunoSC]

Was just out there with my stock XJ, really good run for a newbie like me. I'm interested but not sure what the status my xj will be at. I'd do it again stock but the lift should be in and installed by then. Will keep an eye on this thread and I'm game for a newbie run with anyone else.

I made it to the lake and back on LTX all seasons and only broke an exhaust hanger :D My forester could do it if it weren't for the water levels.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Tarzan]

Lost Knife can be done in 2wd if conditions are dry. Lost Knife in the wet is not good for stock newbs. I be in for Oct 13th Turkey day.

[LUDELVR]

I'm totally down for this; however, my tires aren't as treaded as I'd like them to be. Secondly, my jeep is slightly rusted and I'm hoping that it won't bend in half!!!

It's a 92 lifted YJ with 31.5" x 11", manual tranny and last time I checked, 4x4 worked! That's kind of why I wanted to take it out off roading a bit.

[ercchry]

for you noobs in manual trans vehicles... DO NOT push in your clutch if you are in water.... turn off the truck, place in new gear, start truck. i know the newer jeeps bypass the clutch switch while in 4-low to make this possible, but best try it out before you need it.


....i might be in depending on what i pickup for winter this year. did some light offroading in the f150... and uh, just not what im use to, dont like it. too big

[firebane]

Originally posted by ercchry
for you noobs in manual trans vehicles... DO NOT push in your clutch if you are in water.... turn off the truck, place in new gear, start truck. i know the newer jeeps bypass the clutch switch while in 4-low to make this possible, but best try it out before you need it.


....i might be in depending on what i pickup for winter this year. did some light offroading in the f150... and uh, just not what im use to, dont like it. too big

I realize water and dirt won't be good in there but if your truck is deep enough to submerge your bell housing nothing you do will save your clutch.

I would love to go on this trip but my truck just won't be ready :(

[ercchry]

Originally posted by firebane


What is wrong with pushing your clutch in water? This is the first I have heard of this.

I realize water and dirt won't be good in there but if your truck is deep enough to submerge your bell housing nothing you do will save your clutch.

yeah it sucks in dirt and shit. i've seen it first hand completely destroy the clutch before (jeep was not moving at all)

if you dont push it in, you can go pretty damn deep with no issues. i've had water over the hood before without issues. got stuck a few times with the mud up to the doors and had to gear down, turn truck off and then back on and its golden

thick mud is less of an issue than water/muddy water though as that flows the debris better and it gets between the clutch plate and flywheel and makes a mess

[LUDELVR]

This whole "not pushing in your clutch" thing is new to me. I've never heard of this before…then again, I've never wheeled before or driven in water that deep.

Could someone explain this in a bit more detail and how to go about doing it? I'm reading that when you drop into some deep water, you simply shut your rig off, throw it in 4Low and start the car while not stepping on the clutch? Did I get this right? :dunno:

[ercchry]

Yup, thats about it. I didn't know about it when i first started either and figured it was worth mentioning. But it is a real thing haha.

Basically if you get shit between the clutch plate and flywheel it accelerates the wear exponentially. If you dont touch the clutch pedal then nothing gets in. Any water or anything in the bellhousing will just spin off and life is good.

[Sugarphreak]

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[LUDELVR]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
It doesn't have to do so much with clutch wear as it does with the fact when you disengage the clutch you break the contact and can allow water between.

The water lubricates the clutch and you end up not being able to engage it again until it dries out (which takes 20 minutes or so). If you are in the water and you stomp the clutch... you have to get towed out, and then sit around until the clutch gets dry enough to drive again.

I have admittedly done it in deep water without thinking, but never had this issue; however we had a Jeep do exactly this a few years back when he tried to follow the Hummers through a deeper puddle. When he pushed in the clutch it totally soaked it and he had to pull him out and basically took lunch while it dried.

Personally I stay away from water deeper than about 4 feet these days

Still totally in awe by this for some reason. So just note to myself, "don't step on the clutch if I find myself in deep water"
I've never actually tried 4 low without the clutch...does this work or will it stall if I have to stop without stepping on the clutch?

[flipstah]

Just don't stop. Why do you need to stop in the middle of the water, anyways? :)

[LUDELVR]

Originally posted by flipstah
Just don't stop. Why do you need to stop in the middle of the water, anyways? :)

Force of habit I guess, kind of like being in traffic I'd say. It's like covering the brake or stepping on the clutch so I don't hit the vehicle in front of me. Might be uncertain if there's a drop in the ground so possibly just to get a feel for the road...that I can't see! :rofl:

Totally new to anything wheelin so I want to cover my bases on how NOT to stuff up!! :banghead:

[firebane]

Originally posted by flipstah
Just don't stop. Why do you need to stop in the middle of the water, anyways? :)

Unless you know how deep that water is you are going through, you may sometimes have to stop.

Heck sometimes your vehicle will just die to to water in areas it shouldn't go.

[Kloubek]

...or you end up slipping inside the puddle and having to back up, rock it out, etc.

I don't think we'll be doing anything so terribly tricky that it will require stopping in a puddle on this run. I was just there last weekend and there were some pretty big puddles, but nothing difficult to get through. And that was AFTER all the snow we got.

[ercchry]

4 low is fun, as long as you are moving a little you shouldnt stall. if you do just turn the key... if you keep stalling, gear down and turn the key. the power of the starter motor in 4 low is pretty impressive too.

[firebane]

Originally posted by ercchry
4 low is fun, as long as you are moving a little you shouldnt stall. if you do just turn the key... if you keep stalling, gear down and turn the key. the power of the starter motor in 4 low is pretty impressive too.

LOL as long as you have a good battery.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by firebane


LOL as long as you have a good battery.

talking cranking it maybe 4 times if you are stuck (try in same gear, try in lower gear, try reverse, try forward again)... there is a point when everyone should just give up and get a tug out... but the nice thing about a manual too is if you drain the battery too far to use the starter, you can just bump start it

[Sugarphreak]

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[Adrenaline101]

I'll toss myself into this if we set a date so I can make sure they don't sucker me into work.

VEHICLE: 2013 toyota tundra double cab. 3" lift, 35's, 12k winch
Dates: any if I know when.
Commitment : 95‰?

[frozenrice]

I'd be in for the 4th or 11th if the trail is friendly enough for a Honda Ridgeline. :dunno: Runs like this is why I miss the Yota....

[Alak]

I wish I could bring my one ton.

[CelicaST-162]

Originally posted by frozenrice
I'd be in for the 4th or 11th if the trail is friendly enough for a Honda Ridgeline. :dunno: Runs like this is why I miss the Yota....

I don't think taking the Ridgeline is the best idea, low ground clearance, accessible tow points, low range transfer case?

[HuMz]

I would agree, although this video surprised me on a ridgeline at Alberta Safari park.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2duqpnDBXg

[Sugarphreak]

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[msommers]

Sounds like a blast if it's ok for stock vehicles to go. Otherwise I'm less inclined considering it's my work vehicle too. Schedule is going to be chaotic so I'll be a last minute guy if there is room available.

Vehicle: 2010 4Runner
Dates Available: Any
Commitment Level: 50%

[frozenrice]

Originally posted by CelicaST-162


I don't think taking the Ridgeline is the best idea, low ground clearance, accessible tow points, low range transfer case?



Originally posted by Sugarphreak
They have good traction control systems which makes them not bad for mud. They are a little short on ground clearance, and don't articulate especially well. I wouldn't take one out to Waiporous though.

That's kind of what I figured might be the case. Should have stuck with the original idea of a Taco instead of the Ridge (although a Taco doesn't have a trunk in the bed :P).

[CelicaST-162]

I might be able to make this one. Depending on which dates are chosen.

Silver 2006 4Runner

[Dim_Sum]

I might be able to if I finish fixing it and depending on date

Black 1998 4Runner

[Sugarphreak]

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[Kloubek]

Sebastien is in for the 25th if that's when it happens.

Wj 2.5" lift, 32" tires. 90% commitment.

[Sugarphreak]

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[statick]

Thanks for the legwork, Sugarphreak. Is there any interest in also heading out on Oct 11? The two dates are two weeks apart and that's the day with the second highest number of votes...

[BokCh0y]

Originally posted by statick
Thanks for the legwork, Sugarphreak. Is there any interest in also heading out on Oct 11? The two dates are two weeks apart and that's the day with the second highest number of votes...

I'd be down for both days too.

[gyromonkey]

I think I can make it most days

Vehicle: 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser-Manual- stock BF goodie MT's
Dates Available: October 4th, 11th, 18th
Commitment Level: 65%

[Kloubek]

I see no reason there couldnt be two runs. I only hope if you guys go on the 11th, you remain committed to the 25th cuz I want to meet some beyond peeps!

[CA18-S13]

Im down based on if my truck is fixed by then.

Landcruiser, dont worry about its ability haha

[Cooked Rice]

Vehicle: 2008 4Runner, lifted 3.5", 31" Duratracs
Dates Available: 25th
Commitment Level: 75%

Hopefully this will get me off my ass to install limiter straps in the front by then.

[egmilano]

Never done a trial before, this would be my first time trying it out. Would all seasons w/good tread be fine ?

Truck: 97 Green Explorer XLT 4x4
Commitment Level: 99.9%


:)

[Sugarphreak]

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[egmilano]

Okay, I'll head to pick n pull this weekend and grab some front tow hooks off an f150 or Sport edition explorer... i'll try and figure out rear too

[ercchry]

Princess auto should have a hitch receiver with a hook on it. They work great for rear points

[master hec0]

Im in

Truck: 2000 Chevy Tracker on 30's M/T.

Commitment Level: 95%

I might be down for the 11th as well if there is still interest in that date.

[Kloubek]

So... when is this going to be? Us family men need to plan outings like this in advance...

[Sugarphreak]

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[interlude]

I might be in for the 25th.

2008 FJ or 1981 BJ42 or both

[flipstah]

Lame, I'm out. I'd be flying back. :(

[statick]

Originally posted by Kloubek
So... when is this going to be? Us family men need to plan outings like this in advance...

Kloubek, I imagine you may be referring a second run for this weekend which was discussed in passing on page 3. I'm out for Saturday (Oct 11), but I'm definitely in for something on Monday (Oct 13) morning/afternoon. Sunday might work, but it's tough to say at the moment.

[Kloubek]

No, I was just being retarded and not reading the thread properly. Sugarphreak already said the 25th got the most votes and somehow I managed to miss/forget he posted that.

I'd love to come out this weekend as well, but I have family in town and may be tied up.

[BokCh0y]

So any plans for an Oct. 11, run...

[BurningChrome]

I might be in for this. Won't know for sure until the Monday before.

2011 4Runner. Mostly stock.

[Adrenaline101]

Originally posted by BurningChrome


2011 4Runner. Mostly stock.

Lies!
On a side note it's be nice to have another ct4wd guy there, as I've never had the days off to get the courses to go with you guys.

[CA18-S13]

Originally posted by Adrenaline101


Lies!
On a side note it's be nice to have another ct4wd guy there, as I've never had the days off to get the courses to go with you guys.

There's actually a few of us on this very sign up ;-) haha

[Sugarphreak]

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[Mostwanted]

im down to go on the 25th, new to 4x4
99 4runner
im a noob so whatever gets my wheeling cherry popped,
how long is the trail approx

[CA18-S13]

Plan for the day to be consumed, this needs to be understood first by anyone going wheeling. Do not plan anything for the day cause you have no idea whats going to happen throughout the day.

The worst is when you have a tailgate meeting before the run and theres that one guy he says he needs to be home by like 3pm haha. If thats the case for anyone on that day then just stay home. Im not truing to be a dick, just stating what I know

[Sugarphreak]

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[msommers]

Sadly heading out for work tomorrow so no chance of making this one. Have fun guys! Sounds like a blast.

[Sugarphreak]

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[msommers]

Solid! I'll do my best to attend :thumbsup:

[Errol.]

Just was informed about this run. Probably will be able to make it

2014 tacoma.

[BurningChrome]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
The worst is when you have a tailgate meeting before the run and theres that one guy he says he needs to be home by like 3pm haha.
Heh, I remember that run.

[Sugarphreak]

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[LUDELVR]

Just wondering, how much tread is a "good" amount? I'm due for some tires but mostly likely won't get them until spring. :(

[LUDELVR]

Ah shit, I forgot! I'm coaching my volleyball team that weekend at a tourney! I'm out! Boo!! :thumbsdow

[Sugarphreak]

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[Mostwanted]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
Plan for the day to be consumed, this needs to be understood first by anyone going wheeling. Do not plan anything for the day cause you have no idea whats going to happen throughout the day.

The worst is when you have a tailgate meeting before the run and theres that one guy he says he needs to be home by like 3pm haha. If thats the case for anyone on that day then just stay home. Im not truing to be a dick, just stating what I know

Yeah I was just wondering cause I get 300km on the 4runner, I was wondering if I should buy a Jerry can or 2.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Mostwanted]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Somebody captured it on dashcam... watch the black H1

Hj8UK8RBiwk

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb256/Sugarphreak/Club%20Albums/CHC/2014%20Fall%20Run/20141018_150803_zps69b48c8d.jpg

This is a trail we won't be doing with newbs, haha

LOL that's what im scared for I don't want to be "that guy" lol never been wheeling and I don't know what not to do and what to do. but im up for it since "no one gets left behind":bigpimp: :bigpimp:

[Kloubek]

I wouldn't be too concerned. Sugarphreak knows there are some stockers coming, and I'm sure he wouldn't lead you into anything too nuts.

I was wondering though... once the river is crossed, how challenging is it? I made it up the steps at Top of the World last weekend, but my rockers just barely cleared. And with AT's, I'm not too interested in bogging....

[interlude]

Should make one item mandatory: Air Compressor

I remember one of the first beyond trail runs, I had to lend out my air compressor to 3 people. Ended up killing my air compressor on the next run, good thing it was a Costco $60 compressor :D

It also took the crappy compressor 10-15 minutes per tire.

[Adrenaline101]

I will have my on board air compressor available to use if people don't have their own. Bring a tire guage if you can for airing down and up. I have deflators but 4 can only do so many vehicles so fast.

[woodywoodford]

Does beyond do a lot of these? I've been looking at getting an xterra for next season...would be good to know if there's a group that goes out regularly since none of my buddies are willing to spend money on this (of course they'd probably tag along...buncha mooches lol)

[CA18-S13]

Kloubek, there shouldn't be any river crossing if we are indeed going to Margaret lake. If we go to he falls then yes, but its nothing to be worried about after the river crossing. In all honesty there isn't anything in waiparous that is a real threat if you use common sense and know both your vehicle limits and your skill level limits.

I have a decent compressor as well for anyone who needs to use one.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Kloubek
I wouldn't be too concerned. Sugarphreak knows there are some stockers coming, and I'm sure he wouldn't lead you into anything too nuts.

I was wondering though... once the river is crossed, how challenging is it? I made it up the steps at Top of the World last weekend, but my rockers just barely cleared. And with AT's, I'm not too interested in bogging....

i thought the plan was the lake? crossing the river is only for the falls, you keep going past the crossing for the lake

...if its a nice easy run to the lake i might bring the F150

[CA18-S13]

I would assume with CT4WD now sadly closing our doors there will be a flood of runs being started here.

[HuMz]

Originally posted by woodywoodford
Does beyond do a lot of these? I've been looking at getting an xterra for next season...would be good to know if there's a group that goes out regularly since none of my buddies are willing to spend money on this (of course they'd probably tag along...buncha mooches lol)


If you get one there is an alberta group on www.thenewx.org which does trail runs.

[BurningChrome]

I believe the trail from the river crossing to the falls is closed until Nov. 1st. Think Sugarphreak meant the river crossing from four corners to Lost Knife.

[Sugarphreak]

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[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
I would assume with CT4WD now sadly closing our doors there will be a flood of runs being started here.

Woah, CT4WD is closing up shop? Sad news indeed, lots of great guys in that club - hopefully Beyond will fill in the gaps.

I'm sadly unavailable for this run, way too much stuff to get done on the garage before winter hits. :( Y'all have fun wheeling while I'm stuck digging holes and hanging gutters.

[Mostwanted]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
[B]^^ Yeah this is the one I am talking about

We do a few every year, they are pretty popular and usually a lot of fun.

As mentioned, with CT4WD shutting down we might see a lot more interest in these runs on here.


I kind of don't understand the hype of ct4wd forum going down. I know it was a great site and was used for people to get to know each other, but as mentioned above, in order to go wheeling you needed their permission? why is it that runs like these will get more popular when the site goes down?:dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

[Sugarphreak]

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[BurningChrome]

Originally posted by Mostwanted
in order to go wheeling you needed their permission?
You didn't need anyone's permission to go wheeling. If you wanted to go on a CT4WD official trail run you needed to be a member and have taken the course.

[statick]

Well chaps, it looks like I'm at work for the weekend. Be sure to post some pictures and enjoy!