Self Driving Audi RS7 to Lap Hockenheim at Race Speed

[kenny]

http://www.beyond.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/audi-rs7-self-driving-lap-hockenheim-550x310.jpg

Mark your calendars for October 19th because Audi will be showcasing their latest autonomous driving technologies by having an RS7 do a lap around the Hockenheim race track as part of the German Touring Car Championship (DTM) season finale. However, what’s important to note is that the RS7 will not just be doing a slow sunday drive (hah!) but instead will be doing the lap at full race speeds and will likely challenge the top lap times set by human drivers by driving to itself to its physical limits with millimeter precision.

http://www.beyond.ca/self-driving-audi-rs7-to-lap-hockenheim-at-race-speed/44825.html

[killramos]

Originally posted by kenny
http://www.beyond.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/audi-rs7-self-driving-lap-hockenheim-550x310.jpg

Mark your calendars for October 19th because Audi will be showcasing their latest autonomous driving technologies by having an RS7 do a lap around the Hockenheim race track as part of the German Touring Car Championship (DTM) season finale. However, what’s important to note is that the RS7 will not just be doing a slow sunday drive (hah!) but instead will be doing the lap at full race speeds and will likely challenge the top lap times set by human drivers by driving to itself to its physical limits with millimeter precision.

http://www.beyond.ca/self-driving-audi-rs7-to-lap-hockenheim-at-race-speed/44825.html

But unless tesla does it it isn't innovative don't you know? Not even newsworthy.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Fly Fishin']

I will use a self driving car for road trips but a good old dumb car for everything else. This should be a cool display the watch.

[finboy]

Originally posted by killramos


But unless tesla does it it isn't innovative don't you know? Not even newsworthy.

Beat me to it :rofl:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Will self driving cars be better at driving than people? How long until driving a car will be considered reckless and dangerous! They might become self aware!?

Damn toasters!

I think if it is alone on a sunny day, dry track, it can probably out drive 99% of human population.

[FixedGear]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Damn toasters!

I think if it is alone on a sunny day, dry track, it can probably out drive 99% of human population.

Definitely. And even (especially?) in dark, wet conditions too.

[94boosted]

I sincerely hope it can't beat a human set lap time, if it does that's scary :(

[JRSC00LUDE]

I gotta start smoking piles of weed so I can justify paranoia of a technologically autonomous society....

[revelations]

Originally posted by 94boosted
I sincerely hope it can't beat a human set lap time, if it does that's scary :(

It IS missing about 100 KG of weight, so on a track with turns its going to make a big difference in a longer race.

Nascar, not so much!

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by 94boosted
I sincerely hope it can't beat a human set lap time, if it does that's scary :(

May not be this time, eventually it will. Right now I assume its programmed by man but once it can learn and combine everyone's telematic data and results, it will have a complete data set to attack each piece of tarmac in every environment variables. The robots down fall right now is processing visual sensory inputs. That will be solved one day with better algorithms, sensors and processors.

The key is I doubt robots can race with humans because I doubt they can include the human factor in the calculation. And human errors are what racing exciting to watch.

If anything need to be fast, efficient and reliable, humans need not apply.

[FixedGear]

^^lidar is really good these days, especially for a simple case like a car track. in fact, lidar is far superior to the human eye in dark or foggy conditions. my $300 vacuum can navigate my house just fine, just imagine how well a robotic car can navigate when the sensor alone is > $100k.

[Sugarphreak]

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[revelations]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
I've never found Lidar to be that great from an accuracy standpoint, it is good for getting a lot of rough information that is easily processed, but I don't think it compares to the human eye when it comes to precision. Laser scanning on the other hand would be far better.

(And yes, I know that modern day Lidar use lasers, not the same thing)

:confused: I dont follow ....

Last time I worked on airborne systems, LIDAR = Laser Scanning

[Sugarphreak]

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[Milk2%]

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE
I gotta start smoking piles of weed so I can justify paranoia of a technologically autonomous society....

:thumbsup:

[revelations]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


I've used information from aerial LIDAR, I've never found it that accurate compared to the land surveys. The function is similar to ordinary radar, except that it send out narrow pulses of light rather than broad radio waves. For that reason we use it as rough information only.

High res laser scanning on the other hand is different in the sense that you take it from multiple locations, and compile it to generate a very accurate 3D object.

Personally I don't think Lidar is as good as the human eye for applications like driving.

Ok, i see where youre coming from - youre comparing a LIDAR scanning unit from an aerial platform (dynamic, sub decimeter accuracy) to a static LIDAR scanning unit mounted on a tripod or solid object (mm accuracy)

They are both laser scanners and the very basic principles of bouncing light and measuring time/phase shift/power etc. are the same.

[dubhead]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
[B]
Will self driving cars be better at driving than people?

Well based on the stupid shit I see on the roads nearly everyday this bar isn't really all that high.

[94boosted]

Originally posted by revelations


It IS missing about 100 KG of weight, so on a track with turns its going to make a big difference in a longer race.

Nascar, not so much!

Yah but I'd be curious to see how much all of the additional sensors, scanners, cameras and computers weigh.


Originally posted by Xtrema


May not be this time, eventually it will. Right now I assume its programmed by man but once it can learn and combine everyone's telematic data and results, it will have a complete data set to attack each piece of tarmac in every environment variables. The robots down fall right now is processing visual sensory inputs. That will be solved one day with better algorithms, sensors and processors.

The key is I doubt robots can race with humans because I doubt they can include the human factor in the calculation. And human errors are what racing exciting to watch.

If anything need to be fast, efficient and reliable, humans need not apply.

I know it's inevitable I guess I'm just not ready for it haha.

[FixedGear]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


I've used information from aerial LIDAR, I've never found it that accurate compared to the land surveys. The function is similar to ordinary radar, except that it send out narrow pulses of light rather than broad radio waves. For that reason we use it as rough information only.

High res laser scanning on the other hand is different in the sense that you take it from multiple locations, and compile it to generate a very accurate 3D object.

Personally I don't think Lidar is as good as the human eye for applications like driving.

That's because you're working with shitty data. :dunno: plus i think it's pretty clear your opinion is pretty much worthless when it comes to science and technology. :poosie:

[StreetRacerX]

I'd be more concerned about a component failing in the car causing a serious accident.

[Mibz]

Originally posted by StreetRacerX
I'd be more concerned about a component failing in the car causing a serious accident. The components in the car are likely built with redundancy and are less likely to completely fail than a human. Who knows, though.

[Sugarphreak]

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[StreetRacerX]

Originally posted by Mibz
The components in the car are likely built with redundancy and are less likely to completely fail than a human. Who knows, though.

Your probably right, I would hope you can turn the nannies off though and drive "manually", say you break down because an important sensor has failed and you are unable to drive the vehicle due to a safety that has been implemented preventing vehicle operation.

[Mibz]

Originally posted by StreetRacerX
Your probably right, I would hope you can turn the nannies off though and drive "manually", say you break down because an important sensor has failed and you are unable to drive the vehicle due to a safety that has been implemented preventing vehicle operation. These are the questions and issues that make me think self-driving cars will never find a place.

[revelations]

Originally posted by Mibz
These are the questions and issues that make me think self-driving cars will never find a place.

Human behaviour is demanding this take place. Most people dont want to drive their vehicles anymore. Push a button to drive and you can get back to Facebook or youtube.

A reasonable solution WILL be found eventually.

[mucat]

Let's see how it handles itself in a T & T parking lot or chinatown

[revelations]

Im sure it wont fall victim to a set of stairs, unlike these 3 retards in Vancouver.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2172568/thumbs/o-CARS-STUCK-UBC-STAIRS-570.jpg

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by mucat
Let's see how it handles itself in a T & T parking lot or chinatown

As a true test, Google should bring their self driving car to the parkade at Aberdeen Mall in Richmond and see how it does, go a step further and let it run some tests in India or SE Asia, onboard computer = fried.

[Xtrema]

Relevant, this is AI learning and adapting muscle control for a perfect, stable walking motion.

http://i.imgur.com/4zGWuki.gif

Imagine assigning AI to learn to be doing the fastest lap possible.

Will the future of F1 just be a bunch of geeks programming the best AI?

[revelations]

Originally posted by n1zm0


As a true test, Google should bring their self driving car to the parkade at Aberdeen Mall in Richmond and see how it does, go a step further and let it run some tests in India or SE Asia, onboard computer = fried.

My impressions are that the city/province will have to setup wireless standards for system for driver-less vehicles.

For eg. Aberdeen (which seemed like a perfectly good mall when it was torn down early 2000s to build a new one) may have RFID signs to tell driver-less vehicles how to proceed in the parking lot.

Ultimately, this would mean no more lazy FOB orientals sitting idling for 10 minutes waiting for a parking spot by the front doors as their driver-less vehicle would find its own spot.

[MGCM]

http://jalopnik.com/this-audi-rs-7-just-drove-itself-around-a-track-at-150m-1648163195

[dubhead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOYsI1cqUrw&app=desktop

Here's the highlight from today. Seem like it was a little more conservative then I hoped. Still an impressive feat.

I don't think F1 will ever go that way it's entertainment and without the flair of the drivers would end up being boring and no one would watch. I also think that deep down we love racing because of a long lost lust for blood sport and the rush of someone coming to within inches of their lives in front of our very eyes.

[khanan]

Originally posted by dubhead
Seem like it was a little more conservative then I hoped. Still an impressive feat.

The commentator was more excited than the engineer himself.