Green Energy Sector ALREADY employs more people than Oil sands

[Toma]

Huh... well that's just fawking COOL!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/green-energy-sector-jobs-surpass-oil-sand-employment-total/article21859169/

[Arash Boodagh]

How many people are emplyed building solar panels and wind mills? All of this is imported from China.
Green energy my ass :P

[Darell_n]

What a stupid comparison. How many people are employed in Oil and Gas compared to the Green industry?

[Sugarphreak]

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[AndyL]

Really low given there's camp rooms for about 80,000 up there - and they're usually full...

[CapnCrunch]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


22,340 seems like a low estimate

According to this government website:
http://oilsands.alberta.ca/economicinvestment.html



In the same spirit as "don't bring a knife to a gun fight", please, "don't bring facts to a Toma fight".

[killramos]

Originally posted by AndyL
Really low given there's camp rooms for about 80,000 up there - and they're usually full...

There's probably more than 22,000 working in restaurants feeding the workers there...

[FraserB]

So no breakdown provided for either claim.

Considering about 6,000 people work at Shell Albian and Scotford alone, it's a safe bet that the 22,xxx number is an outright lie.

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by FraserB
So no breakdown provided for either claim.

it's a safe bet that the 22,xxx number is an outright lie.

You expected something different :dunno: It was a Toma link was it not? :rofl:

[Sugarphreak]

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[Toma]

Don't guess, find the facts that would disprove the article.

So, analyze their actual claim, then go find the actual data.

It's not that hard if you care enough to cry about the article.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


but but but... it is from the climate think tank ''Clean Energy Canada''... and we all know that people in climate science never lie!!!
Maybe this is just Marth.....:rofl:



Originally posted by Toma
Don't guess, find the facts that would disprove the article.

So, analyze their actual claim, then go find the actual data.

It's not that hard if you care enough to cry about the article.
http://oilsands.alberta.ca/economicinvestment.html


Oil sands currently affects the jobs of 112,000 people across Canada outside the province of Alberta and this is expected to grow to over 500,000 jobs over the next 25 years..

[Toma]

Originally posted by schocker

Maybe this is just Marth.....:rofl:



http://oilsands.alberta.ca/economicinvestment.html



No, you just misunderstood the claim, and supported it with propaganda.

[icky2unk]

lol Toma is getting desperate these days. You should see a doctor, it may do you some good. I think you may have some brain damage.

[Toma]

Originally posted by icky2unk
lol Toma is getting desperate these days. You should see a doctor, it may do you some good. I think you may have some brain damage.

No desperation about it, an interesting article was published, I relayed it.

You can choose not to believe, to believe, misunderstand, research, debate, ignore etc.

[Toma]

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/03/30/alberta-oil-sands-workforce-to-rise-73-by-2021/?__lsa=ba0b-8c7f


Alberta’s oil sands industry will see its workforce rise 73% over the next 10 years, according to Petroleum Human Resources Council of Canada, as rising bitumen production demands greater manpower.

The industry, which accounts for 15% of the country’s oil and gas industry, employed 20,000 people at the end of 2011.


:dunno:

So, based on that, sounds reasonable, no?

[codetrap]

You guy are missing the point. The article is saying that the "Green Energy Sector" which encompasses all of solar/wind/hydro etc.. employs slightly more people than the the oilsands project.

In other words the tiny dick of the green sector is longer than a pubic hair on OnG's nutsack.

[ercchry]

we've been "working" with a "green" company for 3 years on a project... and all i have to say is what a fucking joke that industry is. more smoke and mirrors than a good old fashioned snake oil salesman

[Toma]

Originally posted by codetrap
You guy are missing the point. The article is saying that the "Green Energy Sector" which encompasses all of solar/wind/hydro etc.. employs slightly more people than the the oilsands project.

In other words the tiny dick of the green sector is longer than a pubic hair on OnG's nutsack.

There ya go . sounds reasonable.

Or....

Since oil sands is 15% of the total o&g industry, and green is already "there" despite a massive head start and subsidies to oil and gas....

Pretty good start i would contend.

[FraserB]

Fair comparison would be O&G to green energy. Or oilsands to hydro or to solar or to wind.

[Toma]

Originally posted by FraserB
Fair comparison would be O&G to green energy. Or oilsands to hydro or to solar or to wind.

Awwwww. Oil and gas crying about fair.... Lol. Again.

[ddduke]

Originally posted by Toma


Awwwww. Oil and gas crying about fair.... Lol. Again.

He's not crying about fair, he's explaining why your comparison is bullshit.

That's like saying more people live in Olds then in Deer Run when Olds is a city and Deer Run is a community inside of a city.

Here's another astonishing stat for you:

There's more electric cars in the entire world then there is gas powered cars parked at Chinook Centre. I know, your mind is blown.

[Toma]

Lol. That's fine of course, but even at 15%.... That's impressive.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Toma
No, you just misunderstood the claim, and supported it with propaganda.
The article states jobs related to the oil sands, the story is incorrect.

[Nitro5]

Originally posted by Toma


No, you just misunderstood the claim, and supported it with propaganda.

How do you know your article isn't propaganda?

[killramos]

Originally posted by Nitro5


How do you know your article isn't propaganda?

Because it supports his views, which are as we all know the unanimous opinion=fact of people who matter.

Didnt you get that memo?

[Toma]

Originally posted by Nitro5


How do you know your article isn't propaganda?

The numbers through cursory observation appear to be accurate.

And of course it propaganda lol, duh.

but the actual numbers are backed up by that financial post article I also referenced.