Drone legality?

[16hypen3sp]

My girlfriends parents gave me a minidrone (Parrot Rolling Spider) for Christmas (yes, early this year) and I've been using it frequently.

My girlfriend wanted to get one of the big drones with a camera and went to the Source about a week ago and checked one out. She regrets not buying it right then... She went into the Source yesterday and they were all gone. She thought they were sold just not restocked so she asked if any were in stock and the guy running the place said they had to pull them from the shelves and stop selling due to privacy regulations.

??? What a crappy time to pull them.

[AndyL]

You mean those new rules last week?
http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/regserv/affairs/exemptions/docs/en/2880.htm

Under 2KG not really an issue just not near airports/flightpaths...

The source is never a source of information as usual

[BavarianBeast]

Not sure, but would be interested to find out.

Currently we hire a 3rd party company to take ariel jobsite photos. They do them from a helicopter and they cost us a fortune. I think it would be pretty easy for us to send out a field engineer for an afternoon with a drone to get ariel shots instead of paying insane money for Multivista.

[roopi]

From Transport Canada:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-recavi-uav-2265.htm?WT.mc_id=1zfhj#safety

[thetransporter]

Don’t fly:

•Closer than 9 km from any airport, heliport, or aerodrome.


•Higher than 90 metres from above the ground.


•Closer than 150 metres from people, animals, buildings, structures, or vehicles.



9km away from a heliport, airport in Calgary is like almost everywhere...

[Fly Fishin']

So same as the 90s when we just called them RC helicopters and planes. I really hate the media drone title for any hobby flying toy.

[Tik-Tok]

Some interesting rules, that I definitely agree with...


Any person conducting operations under this exemption shall subscribe for liability insurance covering risks of public liability at the levels described in subsection 606.02 (8) of the Canadian Aviation Regulations and in any case shall have no less than $100,000 in liability insurance coverage pertaining to the operation of the UAV system.
...

The pilot operating under this exemption shall not use a first person view device.


Doesn't that second one mean no camera?

[flipstah]

Damn. I was going to buy one to fit a GoPro in for mountain footage.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by flipstah
Damn. I was going to buy one to fit a GoPro in for mountain footage.

Your neighbors "mountains"? :rofl:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok

Doesn't that second one mean no camera?

I think it's referring to piloting the drone using video goggles/screen fed from an onboard camera, but I could be wrong.

[AndyL]

MAAC covers that for insurance (the RC plane club - kinda need that anyway)

Open to interpretation, right now the debate rages... Could go either way - goggles may be not allowed; hasn't been tested - doesn't make much sense to disallow FPV when the requirement is till within line of sight - so if FPV fails - you can still drop goggles and see the UAV...

[Fly Fishin']

Hahaha, anyone else here learn to fly just watching it? I crashed waaaaay more doing that then flying with an actual pilots view. These rules seam to treat all RC pilots as perverts or terrorists.

[Tik-Tok]

So an obscure new C.A.R.'s reference that can be interpreted several ways... just another day in aviation :rofl:

[GotRice?]

Originally posted by BavarianBeast
Not sure, but would be interested to find out.

Currently we hire a 3rd party company to take ariel jobsite photos. They do them from a helicopter and they cost us a fortune. I think it would be pretty easy for us to send out a field engineer for an afternoon with a drone to get ariel shots instead of paying insane money for Multivista.

http://www.thecyberhawk.com/ ??

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok
Doesn't that second one mean no camera?

I think it's another way to say vehicle must maintain line of sight with operators.

Many drones are now equipped with extenders and I have seen a new Parrot with Oculus plug-ins.

[flipstah]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Your neighbors "mountains"? :rofl:

The twin peaks are within distance. The struggle is real. :rofl:

[16hypen3sp]

So something like this isn't allowed?

http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/bebop-drone/

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by 16hypen3sp
So something like this isn't allowed?

http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/bebop-drone/

I think as long as you keep it line of sight, you are probably ok.

But who is going to enforce it and how?

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by Xtrema


I think as long as you keep it line of sight, you are probably ok.

But who is going to enforce it and how?

Police will enforce it, only investigated by complaints I'm sure.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Police will enforce it, only investigated by complaints I'm sure.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/why-it-s-hard-to-stop-a-peeping-drone-1.2743927

So someone can sue on privacy grounds if they find you flying one in the backyard?

[FraserB]

Originally posted by BavarianBeast
Not sure, but would be interested to find out.

Currently we hire a 3rd party company to take ariel jobsite photos. They do them from a helicopter and they cost us a fortune. I think it would be pretty easy for us to send out a field engineer for an afternoon with a drone to get ariel shots instead of paying insane money for Multivista.

If you're interested, I can find out what our surveyors use. We have a drone for mapping and pictures.

[Fly Fishin']

How are the cameras for quality photos? We still use a helicopter and a dslr for photos that will have building renters emposed on them.

[FraserB]

I can't post pictures, but the detail is just as good as helicopter.

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by thetransporter
Don’t fly:

•Closer than 9 km from any airport, heliport, or aerodrome.


•Higher than 90 metres from above the ground.


•Closer than 150 metres from people, animals, buildings, structures, or vehicles.



9km away from a heliport, airport in Calgary is like almost everywhere...

It also says not to fly in "built-up" areas which covers pretty much all of Calgary AFAIK. Not to mention as stated pretty much all of Calgary is within a 9km radius of an airport or heliport.

In short it's illegal to fly within the city...

[Mibz]

http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-18/1805/south-park-s18e05c14-drones-cant-resist-bush_16x9.jpg

[spikerS]

meh, it is business as usual for me.

A lot of these rules are just so they are on the books, just so that if some asshat is a retard with one, they have the power to shut it down. Play safe, and they will let you be.

[sheik_yerbouti]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin



In short it's illegal to fly within the city...

But is it illegal to shoot down drones within the city?

[schurchill39]

Originally posted by Mibz
http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-18/1805/south-park-s18e05c14-drones-cant-resist-bush_16x9.jpg

Im disappointed it took that long into the thread before this was brought up.


Originally posted by sheik_yerbouti
But is it illegal to shoot down drones within the city?
I'm not touching that one with a 10 foot pole