Volkswagen Golf R/GTI Mega Thread

[Redlyne_mr2]

The R has a starting MSRP of $39995 with the following specs:
2.0l 292hp tsi engine
4motion all wheel drive
6 speed manual
DSG is a $1400 option
19inch wheels
Bixenons with led daytime running lights
MIB generation 2 system
Discover media nav
Fender stereo
Dynamic chassis control
Power leather seats
dual zone climate
Kessy
Rear view camera

Get those orders in for summer delivery!

Pics an be seen here
http://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/23482/volkswagen_golf_r_with_290_horsepower_coming_to_north_america/

[rage2]

What are the packages/options available?

And is that for the 5 door or 3 door model?

[Disoblige]

Hey that's weird! The article says it's only available in 3 door version. Is this true?

[schocker]

Is that Canadian pricing, because that is a pretty good price.

[Disoblige]

But the last Golf R was 6 speed and 4 door only.

[rage2]

Typically, US only gets 3 doors, while we get 5 doors.

[danno]

Originally posted by schocker

Not weird, NA only ever gets 3 door iirc, MKIV, MKV, MKVI.

Is that Canadian pricing, because that is a pretty good price.
Mk4 was only 2 door never sold in Canada. Mk5 was only 2 door never sold in canada. Mk6 was only 4 door and 6spd.

The price seems comparable to last gen.

[Xtrema]

That article is old and I think apply to US only.

And....

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/08/vw-golf-r-pre-order-sells-out-in-less-than-11-hours/

[schocker]

Originally posted by danno
Mk6 was only 4 door and 6spd.

whoops :D

[Aleks]

I think he knows what the deal is since he sells VWs. Price is exactly where I figured it would be given S3 price.

[Redlyne_mr2]

That's CND MSRP, Im reading through the product guide and it appears to be a 5 door, not a 3.

DSG at $1400
Special Oryx white paint
Tech pack with driver assistance, adaptive cruise, lane assist, blind spot, city emergency brake and park distance control will be $2015.

Those are the only extra add ons.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Xtrema
That article is old and I think apply to US only.

And....

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/08/vw-golf-r-pre-order-sells-out-in-less-than-11-hours/

Sellout articles are such BS, manufacturer sends the article to the media to post, creates a hype and urgency. If I need more allocation I can get it, if they don't build your car in June they'll build it in July.

BMW did this all the time with their M cars.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Wow I like the pricing. Too bad I won't be in the marker for another car for years now.

[Aleks]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/afretes/Mind%20your%20own%20business/ScreenShot2015-02-12at82605AM_zpscb48f9be.png

[lilmira]

That's pretty good with DCC too this time, just under 50 fully loaded OTD. Summer delivery? With my luck, the R may be here sooner than my S3. :banghead:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2


Sellout articles are such BS, manufacturer sends the article to the media to post, creates a hype and urgency. If I need more allocation I can get it, if they don't build your car in June they'll build it in July.

BMW did this all the time with their M cars.

wow, didn't really read that article wasn't related.

$40K is awesome price.

[rage2]

Are these being built in Germany or Mexico? A June SOP will arrive at dealerships in the August/Sept timeframe.

$40k puts it pretty close to STI pricing.

[Aleks]

Germany for the Golf R. Mexico isn't ready for AWD yet as far as I've read.

STI with leather and nav is 45k base. Base STI is a decent deal at 38k but for 2k more Golf R looks to be a much better deal.

[lilmira]

Is there a limited number of units for Canada this time around?

[heavyD]

That price is better than I anticipated. Was thinking GTI with PP but this is tempting. Damn house renovations eating into my car budget means lots of arguments with the wife trying to justify another car.:(

[JustinMCS]

This is just a thing of beauty. Also didn't realize you moved to VW from Mazda! Good move. No more rusty buckets to deal with lol.

[HiTempguy1]

Other unique features…?
There are many. Stiffened chassis, lowered suspension, a fully disengage-able electronic stability control system,

Cool if true about being able to completely disengage the ESC.

So, this vs Ford Focus RS? Which one do I want? Test drive both I suppose, but damn, the awd manual transmission fun-fest begins!

[JustinMCS]

I think the Golf has the looks department over the RS. Also Audi build quality. Our Escape hasn't been the best in that department....

[Errol.]

So upset that there's no sunroof.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Errol.
So upset that there's no sunroof.
No sunroof? What is this 1990?

To be fair, the lack of a sunroof will be better for the track and bragging rights, improving overall stiffness both for the chassis and the driver.

[natty54]

any pics of the seats?

[benyl]

I would be so happy if cars didnt' come standard with a sunroof. I never use them. Want to see the sun, get a vert. haha

[gpomp]

Not bad but I'd probably get a Mazda 3 instead.

[LUCKYSTRIKE]

Originally posted by rage2

No sunroof? What is this 1990?

To be fair, the lack of a sunroof will be better for the track and bragging rights, improving overall stiffness both for the chassis and the driver.

Kind of glad no sunroof standard. Keep the center of gravity low, less weight, less $, also, for us taller folks no sunroof can mean the difference between fitting in with a helmet or not.

[rage2]

Yea, with the pano roof in the BS, I barely clear it with the helmet on. For street use, I love it. Plus it's an awesome suction cup mounting point for go-pros.

[Axe]

no manual would be a deal breaker for me.

no sunroof for that price!?? While it may save weight, improve structural rigidity, I would bet that 90% of those that buy the R don't notice those things and unless your tracking it every weekend and looking for 100ths of a second in your lap times weight/structural impact would be negligible (my biased opinion). Agree with Rage2's bragging rights comments - just for bragging rights; like the carbon fibre roof on the M3/4

[Kg810]

Originally posted by Axe
no manual would be a deal breaker for me.


There is a manual option?

Edit so you don't have to go back a page:

The manual is $39,995
The DSG is $41,395

[Aleks]

Originally posted by Axe
no manual would be a deal breaker for me.

no sunroof for that price!?? While it may save weight, improve structural rigidity, I would bet that 90% of those that buy the R don't notice those things and unless your tracking it every weekend and looking for 100ths of a second in your lap times weight/structural impact would be negligible (my biased opinion). Agree with Rage2's bragging rights comments - just for bragging rights; like the carbon fibre roof on the M3/4

It's exactly why the price is so low that there is no sunroof. They tried to rush the car over and only certified a 4 door no sunroof shell to import from Europe.

Base car with dsg is what I would look for. In blue.

[Axe]

Sorry about that - missed the manual piece. ok no deal breaker :).

[heavyD]

Originally posted by rage2

No sunroof? What is this 1990?

To be fair, the lack of a sunroof will be better for the track and bragging rights, improving overall stiffness both for the chassis and the driver.

Absolutely. I think I have opened my STI sunroof only once ever as I just let the climate control do it's thing. I don't care if a car has one or not but if it's an option that is less than $1000 I usually opt for it if only because it's a good bell & whistle option when you are going to sell in the used market.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Aleks


It's exactly why the price is so low that there is no sunroof. They tried to rush the car over and only certified a 4 door no sunroof shell to import from Europe.

Base car with dsg is what I would look for. In blue.

Since they are build in Europe why would they need to worry about importing the shell to North America?

[killramos]

So Redlyne there are allocations available at this point in time still?

[flipstah]

Mmmm derricious :drool: :drool:

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by killramos
So Redlyne there are allocations available at this point in time still?
Yup allocation is available, my initial orders close up on the 18th of this month.

[schocker]

Would be nice if you could get the bigger nav screen without all of the safety nannies for less.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by heavyD


Since they are build in Europe why would they need to worry about importing the shell to North America?

I mean they only certified one body to import. Same with Golf E.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by schocker
Would be nice if you could get the bigger nav screen without all of the safety nannies for less.

I believe the new 8" screen comes with Apple Car play.

[Redlyne_mr2]

I know drove the old R, can anyone attest to what it was like?

[schocker]

Originally posted by heavyD
I believe the new 8" screen comes with Apple Car play.
I think they are supporting android auto also so maybe both, or it could just be a software update on the smaller screen?

[flipstah]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
I know drove the old R, can anyone attest to what it was like?

The MK4 felt more planted on the ground and I believe it had hydraulic steering because it didn't feel floaty vs. my MK6.

Seats are better in the MK4 but there's more room and goodies in the MK6.

Plus that turbo is ridiculous. I had to replace the differential controller on mine to get where I want it to be.

[killramos]

FFS this is making me have dangerous thoughts in this oil price environment.

That and 4 cars with 1.5 garage space :nut: ...

[Sorath]

Oh baby <3

[nickyh]

pricing is better than I expected, and compared to the S3 - it feels like a no-brainer.

Almost makes me want to place an order for one, but my GTI is only a few years old so it's hard to justify right now.

[Trinzler]

Lease rates ?

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Trinzler
Lease rates ?

Something this desirable and this early? 4.9% at the very least.

If this qualifies for 0% for 36 months and $500 bonus like current cars, it's such a no brainer.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by schocker

I think they are supporting android auto also so maybe both, or it could just be a software update on the smaller screen?

Yes I believe Android Auto is also supported. I don't think it will retrofit to older models. The updates only come with the new hardware offered in 2016 models. This is part of the reason I have been waiting for 2016 models.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by heavyD


I don't think so. The updates only come with the new hardware offered in 2016 models. This is part of the reason I have been waiting for 2016 models.

I think you are right. Although they promised Android Auto last year in 2015. But i think it'll be 2016 model year showing up later this year.

Still would be nice if Android auto is confirmed for R.

[Disoblige]

Beyond Group Buy and redlyne in charge? Best price in Canada please :rofl:

[Redlyne_mr2]

haha that would be fun to do a group buy. No rates or residuals just yet, probably see those closer to vehicle arrival. I would imagine a 4.9% rate but a strong residual.

[max_boost]

Interested.

[Trinzler]

Been hemming and hawing for a long time about this vs the Fiesta ST and I placed a order for one with DSG this afternoon. Which tuning shops here support APR ?

[Redlined_8000]

Hmm 40k. Not to bad! might be a better deal than the Subaru sti. I wonder what this might mean for Ford focus rs pricing.

[Sorath]

Originally posted by Trinzler
Been hemming and hawing for a long time about this vs the Fiesta ST and I placed a order for one with DSG this afternoon. Which tuning shops here support APR ?

Concept-1

[Smartiepants]

It's very tempting, I've had my eye on a 2016 GTI for a while. Wonder what kind of financing we can get on these, or loyalty offers.

[flipstah]

I remember Mibz talking about how the Golf R will be the Beyond Fit. It may become a reality after all. :drool:

[Mibz]

Originally posted by flipstah
I remember Mibz talking about how the Golf R will be the Beyond Fit. It may become a reality after all. :drool: My wife's GTI lease is up in September. Timing seems too good to be true. She's got her colour picked out and everything, haha.

[schocker]

Beyond group buy then. The pricing on used MKVI R's seems to hold steady so even cheap me would consider a new one :D

[flipstah]

Originally posted by schocker
Beyond group buy then. The pricing on used MKVI R's seems to hold steady so even cheap me would consider a new one :D

It'll plummet once the MK7 hit the shores. The MK4 and 5 will hold their value because of that VR6 engine.

Mine is a turbo and it'll sink in price when the MK7 is out on the prowl.

[88CRX]

Good news on the pricing for when Honda announces CTR pricing for north America.

[A2VR6]

Originally posted by 88CRX
Good news on the pricing for when Honda announces CTR pricing for north America.

The CTR is coming to NA? I thought it wasnt...

[Errol.]

Originally posted by 88CRX
Good news on the pricing for when Honda announces CTR pricing for north America.
Get out of this thread Honda fanboy!

[Trinzler]

Originally posted by 88CRX
Good news on the pricing for when Honda announces CTR pricing for north America.

lol no

Honda is hellbent on producing it's own models in their respective territories and I highly doubt they'll bring over the Type-R badge. They'll probably just cram the Turbo v-tec goodness in the new SI.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by A2VR6


The CTR is coming to NA? I thought it wasnt...

No it's not coming. There may be (nothing official) a Civic SI with the turbocharged engine but that's it.

[Redlined_8000]

Originally posted by Trinzler


lol no

Honda is hellbent on producing it's own models in their respective territories and I highly doubt they'll bring over the Type-R badge. They'll probably just cram the Turbo v-tec goodness in the new SI.

Agreed :werd:

Probably see a turbo SI from Honda. The only question I have is will they make it the full 276hp+ or Detune it.



Edit: knowing honda they will probably screw it up and put the 1.5l turbo in the si lol.

[88CRX]

My work here is done.

https://i.imgur.com/XujHL.gif

[Mitsu3000gt]

Price looks pretty good. I think they spaced it as best they could vs the S3, which I believe starts at $44,000 base but well equipped. It would be a tough call for sure. For those lusting over an S3 hatchback or dead set on a manual transmission option, the Golf R seems like a great alternative. Hope to see them both at the car show this March.

Any word on the 5-door? Or did I miss it?

[rage2]

You missed it. 5 door only in Canada.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by rage2
You missed it. 5 door only in Canada.

Sweet! That's rare we get something we want that the USA doesn't haha.

[rage2]

I think that's been the case for the last 2 Golf R's.

[cam_wmh]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Sweet! That's rare we get something we want that the USA doesn't haha.

Originally posted by rage2
I think that's been the case for the last 2 Golf R's.

No. We got the 4 door only with the Mk6 Golf R.
American's got option of both, 2 & 4 door.

They'll get option of both this time around as well, while again we only have the 4 door option.

(MK4 R32 *stick, and MK5 R32 *slushbox, were only sold in the USA, in 2 door only)


I replaced my MK4 with a MK6.

I miss that VR immensely, but work dictated a newer car.

[Canucks3322]

Wait a minute. ..S3 is coming to Canada as a 5 door hatch? ????:thumbsup: that would be a tough choice for me. .. Though Id probably go with this R cuz its cheaper...

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Canucks3322
Wait a minute. ..S3 is coming to Canada as a 5 door hatch? ????:thumbsup: that would be a tough choice for me. .. Though Id probably go with this R cuz its cheaper...

s3 will stick to sedan. no 5 doors, no convertibles.

5 door a3 may show up in etron trim.

[Trinzler]

Originally posted by cam_wmh



No. We got the 4 door only with the Mk6 Golf R.
American's got option of both, 2 &amp; 4 door.

They'll get option of both this time around as well, while again we only have the 4 door option.

(MK4 R32 *stick, and MK5 R32 *slushbox, were only sold in the USA, in 2 door only)


I replaced my MK4 with a MK6.

I miss that VR immensely, but work dictated a newer car.

http://jalopnik.com/2015-vw-golf-r-gives-americans-choice-of-transmissions-1497102743

Americans get stuck with 5 door as well. Jamie from Vortex said something about the 3 door being available only when production starts in Mexico.

[Canucks3322]

Originally posted by Xtrema


s3 will stick to sedan. no 5 doors, no convertibles.

5 door a3 may show up in etron trim.

Ok good then this thing is back to the top of the list:thumbsup:

[cam_wmh]

Originally posted by Trinzler


http://jalopnik.com/2015-vw-golf-r-gives-americans-choice-of-transmissions-1497102743

Americans get stuck with 5 door as well. Jamie from Vortex said something about the 3 door being available only when production starts in Mexico.

Holy! Thanks for that. Never would've thought they'd only bring over the 4-door.

Mexico plant will be online, for R's 2017?

[schocker]

Wish you could get these wheels though:
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/08/vw-golf-r-pre-order-sells-out-in-less-than-11-hours/
I really dislike the 'cadiz' wheels.

[Disoblige]

Damn, this is really tempting, especially with the results seen from just the Stage 1 APR ECU tune. Can't wait to see to see what Stage 2+ is like.

Crazy.

[Shlade]

It's proven to me that GTI Owners are prunes. Nobody ever wants to try and take on a little focus...

[dirtsniffer]

I wouldn't get too used to that

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2015-volkswagen-gti-vs-2013-ford-focus-st-final-scoring-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-4

[cam_wmh]

Originally posted by Shlade
It's proven to me that GTI Owners are prunes. Nobody ever wants to try and take on a little focus...

LOL, move along junior.

[schocker]

Took me until now to asusme he meant prudes, not prunes as per old people? :rofl:
Used S4 though or Golf R....that is the real question.
I have never bought a new car before so it seems like a pretty big deal. :eek:
Golf R is lots of car for the money though and a loaded S3 would be about $10k more.

[flipstah]

Originally posted by schocker
Took me until now to asusme he meant prudes, not prunes as per old people? :rofl:
Used S4 though or Golf R....that is the real question.
I have never bought a new car before so it seems like a pretty big deal. :eek:
Golf R is lots of car for the money though and a loaded S3 would be about $10k more.

Do you care about the usability of a hatchback? That should be the turning point as the S3 won't come in hatch form (correct me if I'm wrong).

[schocker]

Originally posted by flipstah
Do you care about the usability of a hatchback? That should be the turning point as the S3 won't come in hatch form (correct me if I'm wrong).
I have never had hatch/wagon before so I think the practicality would be nice. Obviously the Golf would be smaller than an S4 or my TSX, so that would be the only thing but I typically don't have more than one passenger. Not sure if the seats fold down, for golf/snowboard I assume I would need a roof rack?

[flipstah]

Originally posted by schocker

I have never had hatch/wagon before so I think the practicality would be nice. Obviously the Golf would be smaller than an S4 or my TSX, so that would be the only thing but I typically don't have more than one passenger. Not sure if the seats fold down, for golf/snowboard I assume I would need a roof rack?

The Golf seats fold flat; not sure about the S3. I wouldn't overlook that as I think some Lexus and Subaru's can't fold 60/40.

For snowboard gear, just use a roof rack if the car is full of people.

The hatchback is nice for hauling random things fast like a 60 inch plasma TV. :rofl:

http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/t51.2885-15/e15/1515125_1511609295725514_1739191400_n.jpg

[LUCKYSTRIKE]

More importantly, it fits a nuclear warhead.

http://youtu.be/3VwgvIqXg3A?t=4m38s

[A2VR6]

Hmm, I always thought you had to transport Plasma's vertically and never laying down. Guess it worked out ok for you in the end tho!:thumbsup:

[flipstah]

Originally posted by A2VR6
Hmm, I always thought you had to transport Plasma's vertically and never laying down. Guess it worked out ok for you in the end tho!:thumbsup:

Yes, that is true to avoid twisting but the drive was minimal, very fast (allegedly), and avoided as many bumps as I could.

Worked out in the end!

[schocker]

Originally posted by flipstah


The Golf seats fold flat; not sure about the S3. I wouldn't overlook that as I think some Lexus and Subaru's can't fold 60/40.

For snowboard gear, just use a roof rack if the car is full of people.

The hatchback is nice for hauling random things fast like a 60 inch plasma TV. :rofl:

That is more room than I was expecting. Hatch would be nicer so I could load stuff up higher as opposed to a trunk allowing a certain height and making everything difficult to reach the further back it is.

[Mibz]

The S4 is fucking huge and I don't think you get much more usable space out of it. Always blows my mind how much we can fit in the wife's Golf.

[danno]

I'm thinking of switching back to a gti or golf R as my next car. They are so usable, compared to a sedan.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Mibz
The S4 is fucking huge and I don't think you get much more usable space out of it. Always blows my mind how much we can fit in the wife's Golf.
More engine and passenger space is nice though. But fine, I will get the golf then! :rofl:

[rizfarmer]

The gti is the most practical and fun car I've ever owned at the same time.

Any idea whether the first allotment of R's will be 6sp? Or when those start arriving?

Hopefully I can get out of my gti with as little pain as possible to be driving an R for next winter

[Smartiepants]

Can anyone PM me what they ended up paying for theirs?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by flipstah


Yes, that is true to avoid twisting but the drive was minimal, very fast (allegedly), and avoided as many bumps as I could.

Worked out in the end!

It's to avoid the glass smashing haha - glad you made it OK! Some boxes have a bunch of bracing on the glass, some do not. Usually better to rent a truck for $20 than risk a $800 TV.

[HiTempguy1]

So is the R only available in limited quantities? Or will more become available as time goes on?

Why do companies do this? When manufacturers don't produce cars because "the buying public" doesn't want them, and then they produce "limited quantity" models, like wtf?