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navdeep
03-10-2015, 06:59 AM
Building a new house and doing speaker wire rough-in


how are in-wall speakers compared to tower or even on-wall speakers

room is 15x20

thinking of doing 7.1 but i been reading 5.1 is just as good as there is not many formats out right now in 7.1

rage2
03-10-2015, 07:23 AM
I went 7.1 for my basement, and ya, even for 7.1 encoded media (very little) it's not a dramatic difference.

With in wall speakers you're not going to get the ultimate in sound quality compared to dedicated speakers, but it's such a cleaner setup so you have to decide what you want. Honestly though, unless you're a hardcore audiophile blowing huge bucks on your system, the difference is negligible.

eblend
03-10-2015, 07:27 AM
I did 7.1 in my basement, as you only get to do it once, so might as well. Xbox one for example can do 7.1, I rock that all the time when I play. What you said may have been true before, but it doesn't hurt to throw in a couple extra speakers.

I got all my in-wall speakers from monoprice.com, they are highly rated and the sound quality is really good as far as i can tell, and I blast that shit. Using a pioneer amp and a boston acoustic sub, but all the speakers are monoprice. I should have painted them to match the wall color, but oh well.

http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=in-wall+speakers

http://www.eblend.ca/Dima/House/i-kvFGwq3/0/XL/P1000955-XL.jpg

http://www.eblend.ca/Dima/House/i-m6XKJVh/0/XL/P1000953-XL.jpg

navdeep
03-10-2015, 07:39 AM
ill be doing a full setup in my basement 7.1


but for my family room my wife doesn't want anything crazy, but i don't want shitty sound as well, if im going to do it once id rather do it right.


Basement would be 7.1 with tower speakers for fronts and in wall mids and in-ceiling for rears and 2 subs

family room would 5.1 or 7.1 with all in-wall or wall mount for fronts and in-wall for rears i don't really think i need mids as i have vaulted ceiling

navdeep
03-10-2015, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by eblend
I did 7.1 in my basement, as you only get to do it once, so might as well. Xbox one for example can do 7.1, I rock that all the time when I play. What you said may have been true before, but it doesn't hurt to throw in a couple extra speakers.

I got all my in-wall speakers from monoprice.com, they are highly rated and the sound quality is really good as far as i can tell, and I blast that shit. Using a pioneer amp and a boston acoustic sub, but all the speakers are monoprice. I should have painted them to match the wall color, but oh well.

http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=in-wall+speakers

http://www.eblend.ca/Dima/House/i-kvFGwq3/0/XL/P1000955-XL.jpg

http://www.eblend.ca/Dima/House/i-m6XKJVh/0/XL/P1000953-XL.jpg


how do they sound when playing music ?

killramos
03-10-2015, 08:17 AM
Have you considered a quality sound bar with wireless sub for the family room? Saves you from having to have a full amp and sounds quite good for casual tv or movie watching.

89coupe
03-10-2015, 08:17 AM
Definitely do 7.1, well worth it IMO. I have a 5.1 & a 7.1 system in my place and the 7.1 definitely adds an added experience.

If you are looking for excellent prices on in-walls give my buddy a shout at...

www.pinnaclehometech.com

Moonracer
03-10-2015, 09:00 AM
In wall and ceiling speakers are definitely not as good sound wise as speakers in boxes. Like Rage said you have to figure out what is more important, sound quality or space.
In my last house I had the builders install some high quality ceiling speakers in the living room because the wife didn't want the speakers taking up room. Well it sucked and I ended up using my Energy towers for the front L & R and of course a sub which made it bearable. In my current place I'm just renting and it's back to full speakers which is awesome. If you can at least do a hybrid setup like you mentioned for your basement then you could be satisfied it.
Ultimately though, you could have custom boxes made and then flush mounted in the wall but then you're talking a lot more money.

eblend
03-10-2015, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by navdeep



how do they sound when playing music ?

I have no complaints. You can read reviews online on monoprice, lots of people mixing these with high end audio speakers and they say they sound just as good. I did my research myself as well.

Mine actually have boxes behind them. I built out boxes out of 2x4 with an MDF backing, and the whole box is surrounded with dynamat on the inside. Never had any problems with any crackling or vibrations or anything.

GTS Jeff
03-10-2015, 11:51 AM
In ceiling speakers are great around the house where you don't want intrusive speakers everywhere...eg. living room, kitchen, washrooms, bedrooms, etc. You don't need the ultimate in quality to hear the news or a bit of background party music.

In the theater, you're probably best off limiting the in-wall speakers to use as surround speakers.

JudasJimmy
03-10-2015, 12:46 PM
I went with 5.1 for upstairs tv, and also 5.1 for downstairs TV. The Imax experience never really appealed to me. I prefer sound to come from the front. I bi-Amp the front speakers so the 7th channel is not wasted. I also went with monoprice in ceiling speakers, as well as, the in wall passive subs. All wired to the basement electrical room. I can't believe how good the monoprice setup sounds. Basement is Polk Audio tower speakers and subs.


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R!zz0
06-25-2015, 11:29 AM
Waking up an old thread:

What are the chances of getting ceiling speakers after a home that's already built?

killramos
06-25-2015, 11:33 AM
^ its 100% doable obviously but are you willing to pay $$$ to repair the walls and ceilings when its done.

If you are already finished get a Sonos system with either their all in one units or Connect/Connect:amp and / or a sound bar and sub for TV use.. :dunno:

I bet even with an extensive sonos system you are going to save money over ripping up the walls and re finishing.

UndrgroundRider
06-25-2015, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by R!zz0
Waking up an old thread:

What are the chances of getting ceiling speakers after a home that's already built?

Easier than you would think. A good cable monkey can get it there without too much (if any) drywall damage.

kenny
06-25-2015, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by navdeep
thinking of doing 7.1 but i been reading 5.1 is just as good as there is not many formats out right now in 7.1

It depends on your room and how your seating is arranged. Most home theatre setups will be just as good with a 5.1 setup. The ones where the TV is on one wall and the couch/seating is up against the opposite wall. There wouldn't be enough side/rear separation to take full advantage of 7.1 in that case.

R!zz0
06-26-2015, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by UndrgroundRider


Easier than you would think. A good cable monkey can get it there without too much (if any) drywall damage.

You know where i can find someone to do this?

phreezee
06-27-2015, 12:13 PM
I have in ceilings for mids and rears and full towers, center channel and sub currently. I like in ceiling vs. in wall as they are out of your line of sight and make the room look cleaner. In ceilings are perfectly suited for surrounds.
I did my in ceilings myself post construction and it was a bitch to do.

Can I ask what they are quoting per speaker?

R!zz0
06-27-2015, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by phreezee
Can I ask what they are quoting per speaker?

Sorry i don't know if you're asking me that question. But if you are...I haven't called anyone yet. And too be honest, i don't know who to call...Electrician?

phreezee
06-27-2015, 04:55 PM
^^ interested in what the builder is charging the OP. I guess the price depends on the speaker brand chosen. I've got Paradigms now, but I think I would have been happy with just generic speakers.