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WhippWhapp
07-24-2015, 11:49 PM
Friend is going through a nasty divorce, any recommendations?

Thanks in advance!

jabjab
07-25-2015, 02:02 AM
Soby Boyden Lenz is a good firm.

In all honestly don't believe all lawyers. They will throw out best case scenarios just for you to retain them. Soby told it how it was i found and settled my friends case on a cost basis.

revelations
07-25-2015, 10:47 AM
There are many good threads about this - Rage2 had a good one I think.

Lawyers are not always needed, especially regarding negotiations and copying documents - all of which they will charge up the ass for. In the end you both lose and lawyers get all the money.

Kobe
07-25-2015, 11:48 AM
Goodluck!

Guess it really adds up in those nasty divorces, my parents ended up sending 150k on lawyers (each or combined i forget) But it took a few years.

But were extremely stubborn and would not give up..

FixedGear
07-25-2015, 12:24 PM
Kind of funny to watch beyond grow from a bunch of geeky teenagers, into guys getting married and posting threads about their kids, to a bunch of middle-aged divorcees. I'm glad that I haven't gotten married (yet, at least) - I'm 36 but feel like I'm 21. :bigpimp: :rofl:

Masked Bandit
07-25-2015, 01:57 PM
Still lots of young punks around.

Besides, getting older just means you have more money for better toys!

FixedGear
07-25-2015, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Masked Bandit
Still lots of young punks around.

Besides, getting older just means you have more money for better toys!

true and true. :rofl:

R!zz0
07-25-2015, 02:12 PM
Any kids? If so, what kind of custody are you looking for? My cousin got timeshare custody with his Daughter. He had a Female lawyer who was awesome and the biggest bitch, (That's the lawyer you want on your side) She got him what he wanted. It cost him almost $50,000. It was a long battle that's for sure.

revelations
07-25-2015, 03:36 PM
From a lawyer in the above-mentioned thread:


A divorce can cost as much as you let it cost. We do uncontested divorces for relatively cheap, as long as the parties are willing to divide their assets amicably.

When divorces are contested, it can cost upwards of 20k or more. The reality is that divorce law in Canada is so well settled that the outcome is relatively predictable and no "ruthless" lawyer is going to change that. Yes, an aggressive lawyer may create some additional headaches and generate extra costs on the other party, but you are also paying for that too in the form of legal fees.

The outcome will almost always be the same for the average joe -equal division of assets and shared custody with day-to-day care to the mother. You could have photos of your wife in an orgy and it wouldn't make any difference to the courts, as Alberta (and probably all of Canada) are no-fault jurisdictions where these reasons do not affect the outcome. (WEAPON R)

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?threadid=331939



ALSO,


A non-lawyer solution:

http://www.fairwaydivorce.com/

C of Red
07-28-2015, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by revelations
There are many good threads about this - Rage2 had a good one I think.

Lawyers are not always needed, especially regarding negotiations and copying documents - all of which they will charge up the ass for. In the end you both lose and lawyers get all the money.

This couldn't be any more true. Tell your friend to try to talk some sense in the other spouse. Offer 50% of whatever he had budgeted for the lawyer to the ex as a settlement. You both save the lawyer fees, save yourself the grieve. Win-win.

We used a paralegal and it cost $1200 all-in for the paperwork. Completely painless process.

Lex350
07-29-2015, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by jabjab
Soby Boyden Lenz is a good firm.

In all honestly don't believe all lawyers. They will throw out best case scenarios just for you to retain them. Soby told it how it was i found and settled my friends case on a cost basis.


A caution with this. I was also referred to this firm but I could't get one of the partners because they were so busy. I got one of the rookies. She was horrible. I got pushed around a lot by my ex's lawyer while burning up a ton of cash. I had to fire hr and found someone else that was much better and more aggressive.

Lex350
07-29-2015, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by Kobe
Goodluck!

Guess it really adds up in those nasty divorces, my parents ended up sending 150k on lawyers (each or combined i forget) But it took a few years.

But were extremely stubborn and would not give up..


4.5 years for me and at least $150K on my own!

Lex350
07-29-2015, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by C of Red


This couldn't be any more true. Tell your friend to try to talk some sense in the other spouse. Offer 50% of whatever he had budgeted for the lawyer to the ex as a settlement. You both save the lawyer fees, save yourself the grieve. Win-win.

We used a paralegal and it cost $1200 all-in for the paperwork. Completely painless process.


Here is the problem with this. You can start out with your ex saying let's have an uncontested divorce and do the smart thing. So you play along. Especially because you have kids and know that you are throwing money away. Then when it comes time to settle things on paper, she shows up with a lawyer and an agenda. You have no been blindsided because you come to find out she has had this lawyer for a couple months plotting and preparing. You are now behind the 8 ball and the gloves have come off.

I now tell my friends that are going through a divorce that when it comes to dealing with the ex on a divorce, hope for the best but prepare for the worst......otherwise you will get fucked!

Maxx Mazda
07-29-2015, 10:02 AM
Cyndy Morin at Resolve Legal Group. She's been doing this her whole career and is very successful.

www.resolvelegalgroup.com

[GaGe]
07-29-2015, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by rotten42



Here is the problem with this. You can start out with your ex saying let's have an uncontested divorce and do the smart thing. So you play along. Especially because you have kids and know that you are throwing money away. Then when it comes time to settle things on paper, she shows up with a lawyer and an agenda. You have no been blindsided because you come to find out she has had this lawyer for a couple months plotting and preparing. You are now behind the 8 ball and the gloves have come off.

I now tell my friends that are going through a divorce that when it comes to dealing with the ex on a divorce, hope for the best but prepare for the worst......otherwise you will get fucked!

I'd highly recommend this guy's ex's lawyer haha ;)

jabjab
07-29-2015, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by rotten42



A caution with this. I was also referred to this firm but I could't get one of the partners because they were so busy. I got one of the rookies. She was horrible. I got pushed around a lot by my ex's lawyer while burning up a ton of cash. I had to fire hr and found someone else that was much better and more aggressive.

who was the lawyer that you had?

Lex350
07-29-2015, 10:39 AM
Not going to post her name. My second lawyer was much better and we ended up getting them to agree to binding arbitration instead of court. (It can be a crap shoot with some judges). My ex and her lawyer got shut down pretty quick.

streetdreams
08-21-2017, 11:52 AM
Bump an old thread helping a family member trying to find a good divorce lawyer please et me know if you have any recomendations. Please PM if needed.

Hero_X
08-31-2017, 06:27 PM
Sorry to hijack the thread but I also need some help with a divorce lawyer.

Long story short is I entered into an arranged marriage, we been married 3 yrs, no kids. It's not working out, and I'm constantly miserable.

I need to get out of it. I would ideally like to make it uncontested but this person likes to make me miserable so it may become contested.

Do I have any choice? I mean.. I don't have much money or assets, but does she get 50% of everything? What about my debt? And is it an absolute that I will have to pay her alimony?

fck.. i'm stressed about this because my job is shit and don't make much, and if even that gets taken away.. I'll be on the streets. =/

Sry for the rant, if any ideas/suggestions, please do share.

01RedDX
08-31-2017, 06:56 PM
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RealJimmyJames
08-31-2017, 10:15 PM
Does she work?

ExtraSlow
09-01-2017, 08:08 AM
I'm no expert but things like difference in income, who brought assets into the marriage, and current standard of living may come into play.

It's possible that your current low earnings will be your salvation here.

tonytiger55
09-01-2017, 09:02 AM
Sorry to hijack the thread but I also need some help with a divorce lawyer.

Long story short is I entered into an arranged marriage, we been married 3 yrs, no kids. It's not working out, and I'm constantly miserable.

I need to get out of it. I would ideally like to make it uncontested but this person likes to make me miserable so it may become contested.

Do I have any choice? I mean.. I don't have much money or assets, but does she get 50% of everything? What about my debt? And is it an absolute that I will have to pay her alimony?

fck.. i'm stressed about this because my job is shit and don't make much, and if even that gets taken away.. I'll be on the streets. =/

Sry for the rant, if any ideas/suggestions, please do share.

You got PM

Just to take the discussion sideways if I may. Its kinda interesting. People break up for various reasons.

A lot of my friends in the 2000's got married. They married for reasons I did not support, i.e their culture, identity etc. I told them not to as I had seen marriages in the 80's and 90's go bad and if said the foundation is not right, it will fall apart. Instead they listened to the circle jerk convention. I was blasted by being told im wrong and its their identity, its who they are etc.

Anyways I returned to London in 2011 and met my friends at a Hotel for night out pissup. I entered the room and I learned either they were divorced, remarried with a homegrown girl from India and not happy or (the girls) married a white guy that just said yes to everything, or the ones that were still married have resorted to side chick/guy.

Im not saying marriage is a bad thing. Its great if it can work and you meet that person. But its just a interesting observation I have noticed over the last 20-30 years with friends and family. The divorce rate is really high. You can actually tell if its going to work out or not from the onset.

But anyhoo... back to the topic.
Try and work it out if you can without lawyers, easier said than done I know. Ive just seen divorce lawyers play the game here and manipulate their clients feelings just for the $$$ to fight and litigate.

rage2
09-01-2017, 09:18 AM
Do I have any choice? I mean.. I don't have much money or assets, but does she get 50% of everything? What about my debt? And is it an absolute that I will have to pay her alimony?
Pretty simple in your case. Distribution is based on what was gained during marriage. Lets say you came into the relationship with $10,000 worth of assets. She came in with $5000, so total of $15,000. Now you have $25,000 worth of assets. $25k - $15k = $10k, so that gets split to $5k each, and you walk out with $10k + $5k = $15k worth of assets and she walks out with $5k + $5k = $10k worth. Same calculations goes with debt. The easy way is to not involve lawyers, write up an agreement, figure out who walks out with what, and move on. Lawyers just adds expenses really and only necessary to help officially seal the deal.

Alimony, there are guidelines in Canada, and you can calculate what the guidelines have set based on your situation. It's not absolute, but again, make an agreement that both sides are happy with and don't involve lawyers in the negotiations. Guideline calculator here: https://www.davidsonfraese.ca/spousal-support-calculator/