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ZenOps
07-30-2015, 09:12 AM
http://time.com/3977166/drone-shooting-down-kentucky/

Thats the law.

Nufy
07-30-2015, 09:17 AM
Kentucky...hmmm...

Did he try to cook it afterwards...;)

Mitsu3000gt
07-30-2015, 10:27 AM
Do people own the airspace immediately above their property up to a certain height?

I personally think if someone is flying a camera-laden drone over your private property without your permission, you should be allowed to do something about it.

A790
07-30-2015, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Do people own the airspace immediately above their property up to a certain height?

I personally think if someone is flying a camera-laden drone over your private property without your permission, you should be allowed to do something about it.
I would agree with you. A drone with no camera? Sure. With a camera? Hell no.

killramos
07-30-2015, 10:36 AM
This has to be against some kind of voyeurism law?

But ironically, walk around on his properly taking pictures with a video camera and shoot him? OK in the US

Fly a drone around on his property with a drone and shoot the drone? Not OK!

The thing is if he threw a rock or a brick at it he would likely be free and clear lol.

Sugarphreak
07-30-2015, 10:36 AM
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A790
07-30-2015, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Poses a bit of a paperwork challenge for people who want to get shots of their house for selling purposes... do you go around and bang on the door of every other home owner to get permission?
I would, yea. Or, at the very least, notify them in advance so they aren't freaked out when your drone is buzzing around.

ExtraSlow
07-30-2015, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak
I also think a slingshot with ball-bearings, or paintball gun loaded up with marbles might be a more subtle way to handle such a problem You forget, this is America (fuck yeah)! subtle isn't in thier national vocabulary.

dubhead
07-30-2015, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Poses a bit of a paperwork challenge for people who want to get shots of their house for selling purposes... do you go around and bang on the door of every other home owner to get permission?

I also think a slingshot with ball-bearings, or paintball gun loaded up with marbles might be a more subtle way to handle such a problem



Those should do the trick with out endangering the neighborhood

http://taconready.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/lesslethal.png

Tik-Tok
07-30-2015, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Do people own the airspace immediately above their property up to a certain height?

I personally think if someone is flying a camera-laden drone over your private property without your permission, you should be allowed to do something about it.
Originally posted by killramos
This has to be against some kind of voyeurism law?

But ironically, walk around on his properly taking pictures with a video camera and shoot him? OK in the US

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Poses a bit of a paperwork challenge for people who want to get shots of their house for selling purposes... do you go around and bang on the door of every other home owner to get permission?


It's almost like you guys didn't bother reading the article...


FAA guidelines say drone pilots must receive permission from property owners pre-flight when flying over a residence — but a FAA spokesperson told local media that shooting at an unmanned aerial vehicle posed a bigger threat.

Mitsu3000gt
07-30-2015, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok


It's almost like you guys didn't bother reading the article...

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Your FAA quote says nothing about airspace ownership and the limits of said ownership :dunno: Did I miss that in the article?

taemo
07-30-2015, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok


It's almost like you guys didn't bother reading the article...

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doesn't say how much airspace you need to be before not needing to notify a land-owner though, I'm guessing 40-60 feet?

but really what happened to common courtesy now a days?
one of my co-workers told me that someone tried to go through their backyard over the weekend because they said it was a shortcut from a local baseball field to the street.

Gman.45
07-30-2015, 03:35 PM
IRRC there are maximum altitude rules for drones in US airspace, but no minimums in terms of "privacy" or decency if you're using a camera over property not your own. Max of 400 feet above ground level and 5 miles min from any airport airspace I think it is. There are more solid rules coming in 2015 the FAA has said, some sort of "privacy" laws no doubt will be included.

I've read that Calgary has rules against park flying smaller models now, anyone have intel regarding that? In my current area there is none, but it makes me sad I can't fly my little 250 size helos in parks in Calgary when I move back home, as when I last lived in Calgary they were a pretty new hobby, and every kid for blocks would drop their parents over for 20 questions, which is good for the hobby shops and for the kids, learning about physics and aviation and such IMO.

edit - a bit of info here.

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-know-where-not-to-fly-your-drone/

Also, these are FAA GUIDELINES, much of these guidelines are not enfoceable laws as yet, go read the forums at rc-groups and whatnot, there is a lot up in the air at the moment, rules in flux, "guidelines" and other such wording - again, the FAA has said that clarifications and rules are coming in 2015, which has the modeling community abuzz for certain.


Unfortunately, the "golden rule" or plain common sense doesn't go far in society today. I would expect and hope any modeler flying a route that may even come NEAR private property, that they would check first for both permission and safety concerns that it's alright with anyone living in the general vicinity. As for having a camera equipped quad/hex/whatever rotor, hovering that over private property at an altitude it can be seen at (ie picture range for most cameras) without permission is a creepy thing to do, and I don't blame the OP article guy, although discharging a shotgun in the city limits is obviously asking for trouble yourself.

speedog
07-30-2015, 07:32 PM
Actually it is illegal to operate any type of radio controlled device in any city of Calgark park - bylaw 20M2003 covers that.

16hypen3sp
07-30-2015, 08:51 PM
It was this case that made me post in the balloon stunt thread about breaking Canadian Airspace Regs with a drone.

RX-7_TWINTURBO pointed me to a Transport Canada article that states 90 meters (295 feet) is the point where you break airspace regulations.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-recavi-uav-2265.htm?campaign=2014-uav-socialmedia-facebook&WT.mc_id=hruzf#safety


I looked at the Air Rights wiki page and it states that:

The low cost of unmanned aerial vehicles in the 2000s revived legal questions of what activities were permissible at low altitude.[8] The FAA reestablished that public, or navigable, airspace is the space above 500 feet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_rights

So according to the FAA, one would think that they own the "air" directly above thier property up to 500 feet??? Not sure how it pertains to Canadian law.

Sophal
08-01-2015, 10:40 PM
Mischief and endangerment charge. I bet that was the result of discharging a firearm within town limits. I willing to bet it would be a different out come if it was a rural property.