Kijiji $65,000 Bentley Carjacked in Dalhousie

[HHBL]

http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/08/15/calgary-carjacking-victim-questioning-police-refusal-to-track-cell-phone-inside-stolen-bentley

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/car-theft-victim-fuming-as-police-refuse-to-trace-cellphone-1.2517790

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2517791.1439593426!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg

Thief at Earl's
http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2517801.1439593826!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg


Saw this on the news. Looks like a doctor had his Bentley carjacked when he met the potential "buyer" at Earl's in Dalhousie.

It should be standard to take a photo of the driver and his license before letting the guy test drive. They photo copy licenses all the time at dealerships, and they likely have surveillance video so for private transactions this should be standard and accepted. If a buyer complains about it that should set off some red flags. I think taking some records would eliminate a lot of these bad deals.

Keep an eye out for the Bentley as I don't think they are that common around here!

[roopi]

Owner sounds like an idiot for considering legal action against Rogers and CPS.

[HHBL]

I doubt he'd be able to get any money out of Rogers or the CPS, and he would lose more on attorney fees, but I think he's po'd that they weren't able to help him when they had the means to. Maybe he's putting that out there to try to change the system otherwise it will just happen to the next guy.

Imagine for one moment your vehicle got stolen and you had a trackable cell phone in it. The police and your cell company say sorry we gotta respect your privacy so we can't trace your phone's location. Does it make much sense?

I wonder if he told the police that his 4 year old was in the back seat with the cell phone whether that would have got the ball rolling. That would fall in the extreme circumstance category. He might have gotten in trouble with some mischief charge, but at least they'd track down the vehicle. I think the main thing that is bugging him is that the phone was easily trackable, but no one was willing to do it. Wouldn't you be a little peeved?

I found the kijiji ad:

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2005-bentley-continental-gt-silver-tempest-black-coupe-2-door/1069908326?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

[Jeeper1986]

I love how the camera in Earls is soo shitty lol

[mazdavirgin]

Really comes down to CPS has better things to do than track down someone's car. We can argue if that should be the case or not all day though...

I mean they are not going to track the car and tell you the address/location. So it just comes down to CPS doesn't care. Blaming Rogers is just hilarious... Why should they track down your device? That's just a legal quagmire for them.

[Nitro5]

Wait I thought C-51 was going to destroy our privacy by getting rid of these rules

[Tik-Tok]

Why didnt he just remotely activate his phone gps, and go get it back with his extra keys?

[Canucks3322]

Boggles my mind, what is the big deal to him, doesn't he have insurance? At the very worse, he'll have to pay a deductible, which I'd think is a measly amount to a doctor driving a $65,000 car?!:dunno:

[AE92_TreunoSC]

I have insurance and I don't care if my car is stolen, as long as my family and dogs are out of it. I'd be embarrassed to go to the media in this situation.

[rage2]

Owner should be sued for not buying an iPhone for his son.

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/12/findmyiphonescreenshot.jpg

Owner should be happy it got jacked. Instant sale at asking price. Or was he too cheap to buy comprehensive?

[max_boost]

Note to self. Next time meeting buyer at the police station during regular office hours lol

[max_boost]

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[A3GTiVR6SC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1870209289/Nelsonfinal.png

[heavyD]

Wouldn't he have Findmyphone or similar app for android?

[J.M.]

Originally posted by Jeeper1986
I love how the camera in Earls is soo shitty lol

haha I was thinking the same.. the only thing I got from that photo was that the guy was wearing a suit :dunno:

[relyt92]

Originally posted by rage2


Owner should be happy it got jacked. Instant sale at asking price. Or was he too cheap to buy comprehensive? That was my first thought with it too, no hassle of trying to find some private buyer with 65k sitting around to buy your higher km used Bentley.

[Zhao Kan]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin
Really comes down to CPS has better things to do than track down someone's car. We can argue if that should be the case or not all day though...


This is a bs excuse.

If you want to make that argument, then the police shouldn't be bothering with traffic enforcement either, especially speeding tickets, or a lot of other things i guess.

[A790]

Holy fuck... have you read the comments on that Calgary Sun article?

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by Zhao Kan


This is a bs excuse.

If you want to make that argument, then the police shouldn't be bothering with traffic enforcement either, especially speeding tickets, or a lot of other things i guess.

Your car is gone. There's no active crime in progress so it's not like your high on the list of priorities. There's something like 4000 reported car thefts in Calgary per year. So that's about 11 or so per day. I don't think you are going to get much sympathy out of the cops on this one. Your car is just one among the many that ended up stolen. They will call you once it's recovered or has been used in the commission of some other crime but realistically the cops have better things to do with their time rather than trying to catch a petty thief.

[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by A790
Holy fuck... have you read the comments on that Calgary Sun article?

Only neanderthals read the sun.

[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by A790
Holy fuck... have you read the comments on that Calgary Sun article?

Only neanderthals read the sun.

[Weapon_R]

My car was stolen earlier this year. The police didn't even come to take a report. The surprising thing is that they called me 5 months later to tell me they had a suspect in custody based on prints found in the vehicle.

[jwslam]

Sequence of events based on the Calgary Sun:

1) They meet
2) Anderson Jr in the back, Anderson Sr in the Passenger, Theif in the Driver's
3) They drive around the lot
4) Theif requests higher speeds, Anderson Sr suggests to swap seats with Jr based on his size
5) Sr gets out, and is nearly driven over

Conclusion: Jr is still in the car.

What a stupidly written article.

[Sugarphreak]

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[16hypen3sp]

What is insurance like in a situation like this?

The owner willfully let the guy into the drivers seat. Is there some loophole an insurance company could take about this? Something about the owner assuming the risk by letting the guy take control?

[Masked Bandit]

Originally posted by 16hypen3sp
What is insurance like in a situation like this?

The owner willfully let the guy into the drivers seat. Is there some loophole an insurance company could take about this? Something about the owner assuming the risk by letting the guy take control?

It's still theft, still covered (assuming he had insurance on it). He wouldn't even be out his deductible because when a claim is made for either fire or theft of entire vehicle the deductible is waived. I don't know why this guy is all bent out of shape? Unless the proper market value is $50,000 and he was trying to sell for $65,000.

[Dertz]

:D :drama: :nut:

:rofl: :rofl:

[Khyron]

Originally posted by rage2
Owner should be sued for not buying an iPhone for his son.

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/12/findmyiphonescreenshot.jpg

Owner should be happy it got jacked. Instant sale at asking price. Or was he too cheap to buy comprehensive?

Or a samsung. No excuse now-a-days.

https://findmymobile.samsung.com/account/init.do

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64402414/findsamsung.jpg

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Khyron


Or a samsung. No excuse now-a-days.

https://findmymobile.samsung.com/account/init.do

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64402414/findsamsung.jpg

Or the fact that Google has Device Manager for all Android devices as well to track them.


Originally posted by Masked Bandit
I don't know why this guy is all bent out of shape? Unless the proper market value is $50,000 and he was trying to sell for $65,000.

Seems to be inline of what's being asked on Autotrader.

I guess dude watched too much CSI and expected too much from CPS and Rogers.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Or the fact that Google has Device Manager for all Android devices as well to track them.


You can't remotely turn Location on from Device Manager (assuming it's turned off). Samsung, Sony, etc. all have the ability though with their own software.

[Mibz]

Guy losses his O&G job, needs money quick, not getting bites on the car, hires somebody to "steal" it?

[jwslam]

Originally posted by Mibz
Guy losses his O&G job, needs money quick, not getting bites on the car, hires somebody to "steal" it?
Says he's a "Dr."

[Mibz]

So's this guy:

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[HHBL]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
If somebody asked me for a copy of my licence and a photo in a private sale I'd tell them to get fucked.

Last thing I need is some total stranger running around with all of my personal information. That is a pretty quick way to get your identity stolen.


Do you think it's better to let some total stranger drive around in your car for sale without getting any personal information? That's a pretty quick way to get your car stolen or have yourself killed. Remember that guy who tried to sell his truck?

Tim Bosma (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/tim-bosma-s-accused-killer-tried-to-arrange-3rd-test-drive-1.1302075)

http://globalnews.ca/news/560553/tim-bosma-a-timeline-of-the-police-investigation/

I guess the seller could put a thumb over the Driver's License DOB and address if a buyer is concerned. I wonder if Tim would still be alive if his wife had some photos and a copy of a license?

I'm surprised there isn't more sympathy for the Bentley guy. I saw the news story on TV, and I just thought aw man that's awful to have happen to anyone. Imagine if it was a single mom / your sister / relative who was selling their Mazda3 for $5000 who nearly got run over and had their car stolen. Would you say she was an idiot for selling on Kijiji, tough luck for her, she was asking for it, no worries the insurance will cover it, etc?

I've seen lots of pricey cars advertised on Kijiji so I don't see why it's such a bad marketplace. Is everyone selling on Kijiji asking for trouble? Here's a Lambo:

$152K Lambo (http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/rare-2007-lamborghini-gallardo-spyder-e-gear/1090940058?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true)

I don't blame the police in this situation as their hands are probably tied as they have to follow due process. They probably have come across many cases like this, and if the cell provider won't budge there's likely not much they can do. It's a flaw in the system.

But now imagine if that guy who stole the Bentley hit and killed a family member of yours crossing the road with the car going at 100 KPH in a 60 zone. You'd probably be a little upset that the system failed in this case. It happens all the time - I see news reports of punks stealing cars and end up crashing into innocent people.

Example 1 (http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/witnesses-help-police-locate-alleged-vehicle-thief-following-southeast-crash-1.2302284)

Example 2 (http://calgaryherald.com/news/crime/police-locate-truck-in-sunday-hit-and-run)

Example 3 (http://globalnews.ca/news/1721757/victim-seriously-injured-in-three-car-crash/)

[rage2]

Originally posted by HHBL
I'm surprised there isn't more sympathy for the Bentley guy.
There would probably be more sympathy for the guy if he didn't go full retard and blame CPS/Rogers. If that never came up, the thread would've gone in a completely different direction, such as "who cares he's rich he owns a Bentley" lol.

[schocker]

Originally posted by rage2

There would probably be more sympathy for the guy if he didn't go full retard and blame CPS/Rogers. If that never came up, the thread would've gone in a completely different direction, such as "who cares he's rich he owns a Bentley" lol.
Why wouldn't they just track the phone themselves, I know android/apple have built in tracking:confused:

[alien]

As for him not tracking the phone himself, I talked to this guy (owner of the bentley) in spring at the esso in edgemont while he was trying to fill up his ZR-1. He was struggling to use the pay-at-the-pump feature and cursing it out. No way he knows how to track his device with a computer.

[Sugarphreak]

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[HHBL]

I think I'd be pretty frustrated too if the cops and Rogers couldn't help out when they had the means to. I don't know. I've luckily never been in that sort of situation, but I wonder what I would have done if that happened.

I know the risks are pretty low of running into a bad sale, and it might be overkill for the average car sale to get ID and stuff. Maybe if you're selling a more expensive car it's something to consider as Calgary isn't as safe as it used to be. We never had home invasions and carjackings until recently that I know of. I don't know - I just think better safe than sorry I guess. Even one guy getting killed over a stupid truck sale is too much. The guy had a little kid and a wife...

[Xtrema]

So where do you take a stolen Bentley? Chop shop or ship out of country?

[Masked Bandit]

Originally posted by Xtrema
So where do you take a stolen Bentley? Chop shop or ship out of country?

Bag it & dump it in the bush.

[HHBL]

Originally posted by Xtrema
So where do you take a stolen Bentley? Chop shop or ship out of country?

I bet it's on it's way to a port near Vancouver to get shipped off overseas. I remember seeing a report about the stolen exotic car market and how they ship a bunch of these to other countries to sell off.

Older story (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/car-theft-rings-targeting-luxury-cars-for-export-1.357943)

Newer report (http://notfea.org/03/21/2014/foreign-destinations-stolen-canadian-cars/)

[ShermanEF9]

Cared until i read the story. what a dickhead.

[wintonyk]

literally went on google typed find my phone. that's all it took.

[CLiVE]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak

On the flips side of that, what are the odds I am going to chase off a buyer by demanding his drivers licence?


I generally ask 'can I verify you have a valid driver's license' - and take a look at it quickly. I have never had anyone refuse. Easy to memorize the DL# quickly.

[OU812]

Good old privacy laws.

[googe]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin

but realistically the cops have better things to do with their time rather than trying to catch a petty thief.

Actually, they really don't.

[300zxfairlday]

Have bought and sold many cars , no one leaves on a test drive without leaving there licence and keys/insurance to the vehicle they came in. They have a problem with that then Im sitting in the car with them once confirming they have a valid drivers license. If they cant provide it then gtfo

[ToXicXxX]

Originally posted by Xtrema
So where do you take a stolen Bentley? Chop shop or ship out of country?

Wouldn't you like to know... Mr Car Thief!

[roopi]

http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/11/16/calgary-police-lay-charges-in-test-drive-theft-ring



Calgary police lay charges in test-drive theft ring
Trucks, SUVs and a Bentley among vehicles stolen

A luxury Bentley was just one of the cars stolen in what Calgary police are calling a test-drive theft ring involving four people accused of stealing $300,000 worth of vehicles from online sellers over three months.

The alleged thieves are now facing more than 60 charges, with most thefts involving pick-up trucks an SUVs, and in one case, a luxury Bentley, worth at least $180,000 new.

Police say the suspects would contact the potential seller to arrange a meeting, and then a test drive, where they would trick the seller into stepping outside the vehicle before speeding away.

In the case of the one luxury vehicle stolen in early September, the owner tried to climb back inside the moving car, and was seriously injured when the vehicle hit a curb and rolled, pinning the victim underneath.

"Police executed two search warrants on Monday, Sept. 28, 2015. One was at a residence in the 500 block of Auburn Bay Heights S.E., and the other was in the 3000 block of Rundleson Road N.E. Two individuals were taken into custody," reads the press release.

"At this time, it does not appear there is a connection to any larger organized crime groups or to the drug trade."

Alexandre Alfred Beck-Quenneville, 23, of Calgary, is charged with 10 counts of possession of stolen property under $5,000, 10 counts of breaching a court order, nine counts of theft under $5,000, nine counts of operating a motor vehicle without insurance, six counts of possession of stolen property over $5,000, one count of theft of a motor vehicle and one count of conspiracy to commit theft of a motor vehicle.

Kirk Leslie Naziel, 28, of Calgary, is charged with six counts of theft of a motor vehicle and one count each of conspiracy to commit theft of a motor vehicle, hit and run causing injury, dangerous driving causing bodily harm and possession of a controlled substance.

Christina Louise Ramchack, 26, of Calgary, is charged with three counts of possession of stolen property over $5,000, two counts of possession of stolen property under $5,000 and one count of operating a motor vehicle without insurance.

Lacey Victoria Cecile Tiedemann, 22, of Calgary, is charged with one count each of possession of stolen property over $5,000, uttering a forged document, altering a vehicle identification number and operating a motor vehicle without insurance.

[zipdoa]

Originally posted by roopi
Lacey Victoria Cecile Tiedemann (https://www.facebook.com/laceyvt?fref=ts) , 22, of Calgary, is charged with one count each of possession of stolen property over $5,000, uttering a forged document, altering a vehicle identification number and operating a motor vehicle without insurance.

[?????]

Maybe its a different Bentley since...


Originally posted by roopi
In the case of the one luxury vehicle stolen in early September, the owner tried to climb back inside the moving car, and was seriously injured when the vehicle hit a curb and rolled, pinning the victim underneath.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by zipdoa


http://www.metronews.ca/news/calgary/2015/11/15/four-people-charged-in-kijiji-motor-vehicle-theft-spree.html

Metro got pics for 3 of the perps.

[Skyline_Addict]

lol. those girls look like they think they're angelina jolie in gone in 60 seconds.

[lilmira]

And the guy's hairline is similar to Nic Cage.