Conservatives can't escape questions.

[Env-Consultant]

http://globalnews.ca/news/2171339/reporters-heckled-by-conservative-supporters-for-questions-about-duffy/

"You guys and your uhhh fantasy scandals!" Just another crazy.

Just a debacle. Not taking sides - I just find it funny. Couldn't figure out how to embed the first video, but...

I hope the elections produce gold like this:

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[frizzlefry]

Lets assume Harper knew. Who cares? The headlines could easily read "Conservative party discovers misuse of public funds, member pays it back to the public purse using their own money without public pressure to do so".

A far cry from the liberal scandals of old. Plus, 90 grand. A nothing in terms of waste AND it was paid back without using public funds.

90 grand would have been put down to a simple clerical error when the liberals were running things.

I'm not a major conservative fanboy but the opposition are really barking up the wrong tree here. Bigger issues at play. Harping on this reeks of desperation.

That video was awesome btw. Amazing.

[HuMz]

Agreed Frizzlefry, you would think CBC and the rest of the media would take a moment away from the non stop coverage of the Duffy trial to ask Mulcair about the millions he and his party owe for setting up faulty satellite offices. Or why he feels he can run for PM without giving up his France citizenship.

[Nitro5]

Or that he had high praise for a very un NDP figurehead in Maggie Thatcher in 2001

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/18/thomas-mulcair-margaret-thatcher-2001_n_8006990.html

I'm interested to see how this Senate scandal is playing out in swing vote areas such as BC and Ontario where the Cons need to vote to win. This very well maybe Harper's undoing and really can be laid at his feet of over controlling everything in his party and trying to the Nth degree to contain anything that will make them look bad.

Really what he should have done is stepped back and let Duffy et all hang themselves and apologize for appointing people that turned out to be crooks.

It would have had everyone in a tizzy for a few weeks and would have blown over. Now the media will not let it go.

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by Nitro5
Or that he had high praise for a very un NDP figurehead in Maggie Thatcher in 2001

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/18/thomas-mulcair-margaret-thatcher-2001_n_8006990.html

I'm interested to see how this Senate scandal is playing out in swing vote areas such as BC and Ontario where the Cons need to vote to win. This very well maybe Harper's undoing and really can be laid at his feet of over controlling everything in his party and trying to the Nth degree to contain anything that will make them look bad.

Really what he should have done is stepped back and let Duffy et all hang themselves and apologize for appointing people that turned out to be crooks.

It would have had everyone in a tizzy for a few weeks and would have blown over. Now the media will not let it go.

Jesus christ , all he has to do is speak french and the stops him from moving his hands? not sure what would be more annoying, listening to him speak french, or watching him wave his hands in the air like he doesn't know what to do with them .
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[frizzlefry]

Originally posted by Nitro5
Or that he had high praise for a very un NDP figurehead in Maggie Thatcher in 2001

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/18/thomas-mulcair-margaret-thatcher-2001_n_8006990.html

I'm interested to see how this Senate scandal is playing out in swing vote areas such as BC and Ontario where the Cons need to vote to win. This very well maybe Harper's undoing and really can be laid at his feet of over controlling everything in his party and trying to the Nth degree to contain anything that will make them look bad.

Really what he should have done is stepped back and let Duffy et all hang themselves and apologize for appointing people that turned out to be crooks.

It would have had everyone in a tizzy for a few weeks and would have blown over. Now the media will not let it go.

This won't do anything for swing areas. Because nobody gives a shit. The only people who care are left leaning anyways and would vote NDP or Liberal scandal or not.

For anyone on the fence this plays out as the conservatives finding out that a conservative senator wasted public funds, then said "what the fuck man!?" and paid it back. Granted, they tried to keep it in house and on the down low. Bad. But they never spent a dime of public funds to do so.

The Liberals would have hidden it in some BS public funding project in Quebec run by a corporate party ally without ever paying out of their own pockets to right the wrong. Hell, it would have been a potential shell corporation opportunity to them.

Harper wins here. The conservatives got caught trying to pay back money one of their senators stole? Damn son. That says honest government to me. Honest even though, at the time, the CBC had nothing to smear them with.
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*edit* The fallacy of the opposition is evident in the fact that they are not making the scandal a main talking point that they bring up. Neither Trudeau or Mulcair have brought it up in media spots...until they were asked about it by the media. At that point they delivered their pre-prepared talking points. It's a subtle way of smearing Harper without actually being accountable for bringing up a BS topic as an election issue because it was the media scrum, not them, that brought it up. It's really sad IMO.

I remember during the Liberal scandals of old the conservatives were on those like a fat kid on a smartie because they had a valid point and a valid controversy. None of that here, and you know the NDP would be all over it as their first talking point if they had a valid reason to.

[ZenOps]

I don't even bother following the Duffy inquiry.

I mean really.. Lend me $90K bro.. Who gives a rats tail when the Conservative Harper goverment has arguably printed $100 to $200 Billion more than they probably *should* have considering their *Conservative* branding that they so like to express. Money which of course, the government gets to spend first.

I mean really, a single welfare recipient for a year in Hawaii is already $60K US.

Its a farce of a farce, distraction noodle.

[killramos]

This 90k of private money changing hands which was used to right a perceived wrong.

Compared to the few million the NDP actually stole from government to fund their campaigns and are now refusing to pay back even though parliament told them to?

Hilarious the straws the media is grasping at here.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Originally posted by killramos
This 90k of private money changing hands which was used to right a perceived wrong.

Compared to the few million the NDP actually stole from government to fund their campaigns and are now refusing to pay back even though parliament told them to?

Hilarious the straws the media is grasping at here.

Yeah but that does nothing to portray Harper as a monster so naturally our proud, unbiased media wants nothing to do with it.

[killramos]

I kindof wish harper would go a bit donald trump in an interview and actually lay out those two situations the way they are. I think the whole country would respect him for it and it would kill everything the CBC is trying to push.

I know thats not his style or how federal politics in Canada really works but i can dream :rolleyes:

[Env-Consultant]

Originally posted by ZenOps
I don't even bother following the Duffy inquiry.

I mean really.. Lend me $90K bro.. Who gives a rats tail when the Conservative Harper goverment has arguably printed $100 to $200 Billion more than they probably *should* have considering their *Conservative* branding that they so like to express. Money which of course, the government gets to spend first.

I mean really, a single welfare recipient for a year in Hawaii is already $60K US.

Its a farce of a farce, distraction noodle.

Agreed. The Americans must look at our politics and just go ?????. Harper also had a brief video detailing that he wouldn't implement a Netflix tax. Netflix??? I'd prefer health care, tax, and job discussions...

[schocker]

Originally posted by HuMz
Agreed Frizzlefry, you would think CBC and the rest of the media would take a moment away from the non stop coverage of the Duffy trial to ask Mulcair about the millions he and his party owe for setting up faulty satellite offices. Or why he feels he can run for PM without giving up his France citizenship.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ndp-avoids-questions-on-satellite-office-spending-2-75m-owed-1.2221161
I don't even think I had heard of that news and that seems like a much bigger deal especially since they don't/didn't want to pay.

[sputnik]

Originally posted by Env-Consultant


Agreed. The Americans must look at our politics and just go ?????. Harper also had a brief video detailing that he wouldn't implement a Netflix tax. Netflix??? I'd prefer health care, tax, and job discussions...

Agreed.

Millions being poured into trying to figure out what happened to $90,000.

My personal favorite is Canadians who love Obama yet hate Harper. Last time I checked, Harper was FAR more Liberal than Obama EVER was.

[Sugarphreak]

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[ZenOps]

I'd wonder if most Canadians would see this as completely normal.

When you are at the point where you are going to the Cashmoney guy to pay $20 for a $300 payday loan, I can imagine that is what most Canadians see Duffy as doing.

Which is more normal than breathing the air nowadays.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Why is this being turned into such a circus, and why the fuck is Harper getting grilled because he may have known that they were trying to make him pay back the money?

It's election, everything is dirt. Let's fling whatever you got.

It's a circus because Duffy make sure it will be if he isn't protected. Thanks to Harper's fixed date election, it now is.

If Harper was able to call election this in spring to by pass this, this won't get much attention.