Exterior Electrical

[codetrap]

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[sputnik]

Are you running 15A/110V or are the cameras PoE powered?

If this is a residential install I would recommend running low-voltage PoE cameras just to make the installation simpler.

[redrocket]

I would just run cat 5 to each camera and you only need 120v to the recorder way less work. Unless you have already bought and it's 120v each camera then you have a few different options

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[spikerS]

Power Supply:
12V DC Adapter

[TomcoPDR]

Do poE cameras still need a power source? Or literarily powered over Ethernet cat5/6?

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[spikerS]

Originally posted by TomcoPDR
literarily powered over Ethernet cat5/6?

[macman64]

Originally posted by TomcoPDR
Do poE cameras still need a power source? Or literarily powered over Ethernet cat5/6?

They need either a switch that does PoE. Most consumer switches don't. Or you need an inline PoE adapter.

Even if the camera doesn't support PoE you may be able to use it with something like this: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PoE150S-Gigabit-Injector-compliant/dp/B001PS9E5I/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_y

[codetrap]

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[cancer man]

Codetrap are you the Calgarian drug lord? bahahahahahaha

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[nzwasp]

Are you in the west, I am part of some calgary west area group on facebook and I hear about daily break ins, vehicle break ins. Seems like everyones getting hit however no one has any type of security system.

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[AndrewMZ3]

I just got quoted $3800 for a 7 exterior camera setup with HD DVR. This seem reasonable to you guys? I forget the model of camera but they're 1080P, IR cameras.

[codetrap]

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[nzwasp]

I see systems you can get on ebay that have 4 POE cameras with the options to add more plus a DVR/NVR (you add the hdd) and all wiring for less than $200. To install the cameras is not hard you just have to figure out how to get the wiring to your basement. For me I am looking at that sort of system from ebay.

$3800 seems like a massive waste of money to me.

[sputnik]

Originally posted by macman64
They need either a switch that does PoE. Most consumer switches don't. Or you need an inline PoE adapter.


There are lots of cheap PoE switches available. WAY cheaper than buying inline adapters or running 110V power.

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX49687
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36416
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX57581
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX9665

[The_Penguin]

For my non-POE cameras I used a cheap POE splitter. Works great.

http://www.tp-link.com/res/images/products/large/TL-POE10R-4.0-05.jpg

[The_Penguin]

Originally posted by AndrewMZ3
I just got quoted $3800 for a 7 exterior camera setup with HD DVR. This seem reasonable to you guys? I forget the model of camera but they're 1080P, IR cameras.

That's obscene. You can get very good quality HD POE cameras for $100.00 each or less. A decent DVR, is less than $800.00 or use software on a computer for $50.00

[macman64]

Originally posted by sputnik


There are lots of cheap PoE switches available. WAY cheaper than buying inline adapters or running 110V power.

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX49687
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36416
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX57581
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX9665

Agreed, buying a switch is probably the way to go. Just saying other options exist.

My original post was horrid.....

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[HuMz]

Tough to say without seeing how the garage is layed out. Legally speaking you should have a permit pulled by a master when changing out the wiring to a 12/3 and adding power for the camera. I personally would just cut dry wall as needed in the garage to re-run 12/3 between the lights. You could always just surface run lumex in wire mold but it looks scabby.

[mr2mike]

Don't just run unprotected wire under siding.
My place: aluminum siding, my dad was drilling in to anchor conduit to properly run a line for cable and phone. Hit a hidden power wire, almost died. Dropped the breaker on pole and melted the dewalt drill. No reason to have the wire draped behind the siding.

Personally, do what HuMz said. Then get up into the attic if accessible and work from there to run the lines out.

[mr2mike]

Second: What cameras are people using for Exterior IR?

Had a Foscam one and it lasted 1 winter in my garage. Clicks now, not sure if power supply or what. But it definitely doesn't work.

[The_Penguin]

Originally posted by mr2mike
Second: What cameras are people using for Exterior IR?

Had a Foscam one and it lasted 1 winter in my garage. Clicks now, not sure if power supply or what. But it definitely doesn't work.

Foscam are really not that great.

For less $$ you can get a Hikvision or Dahua that are considerably better quality.

I run older Hikvison DS-2CD2032 bullets. They're great.
If I had it to do over I might go with the turret-style, as the IR is slightly better.

[Chandler_Racing]

Have had my eye on two sets:

Internal: http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/arlo-netgear-arlo-wireless-indoor-outdoor-security-system-with-4-hd-cameras-white-vms3430-100pas/10381650.aspx?path=20c8da01688b231a7f084f9db69366a2en02

External: http://www.costco.ca/AvertX-8-Channel-HD-NVR-Security-System-with-3TB-HDD-and-4-IP-Autofocus-Dome-Cameras.product.100127232.html

Nervous about the installation on the external cameras though.