Deborah Drever Introduces Private Member Bill Addressing Domestic Abuse

[frizzlefry]

Remember her? The MLA who got kicked out of the NDP for her social media posts. Turns out she is actually doing something.

Link (http://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/proposed-alberta-bill-would-remove-barriers-for-those-fleeing-domestic-violence)


Independent MLA Deborah Drever_is trying to accomplish the rare feat of passing a private member’s bill and in the process make_it easier for victims of domestic violence_to_flee abuse.

Drever’s Bill 204 would_amend the Residential Tenancies Act to_allow domestic violence victims to_break a lease early and without penalty. If a person_can demonstrate_they or their children are in danger, they can receive a signed certificate from a list of professionals — such as a judge, nurse, police officer or social worker — compelling the landlord to terminate the lease. The law would also effectively allow a victim to remove an abuser’s name from a lease.

I myself made fun of her and propped her up as an example of an unqualified politician who would make six figures for being a nobody backbencher. I'm quite surprised. Glad to eat my words on this one. Looks like a good bill. Notley originally tasked her with working on education dealing with domestic abuse then kicked her out two days later.

[A790]

Originally posted by frizzlefry
Glad to eat my words on this one.
More people need to act like that when they realize they took the wrong/inappropriate/whatever stance.

I've been trying really hard lately to be that person.

[suntan]

Get rid of damage deposits altogether. Ontario doesn't allow them.

[HiTempguy1]

“What benefits this bill is that it really is aligned with the NDP’s platform,” she said. “They really are trying to take action to end violence against women.”

Or ya know, you could provide just the slightest amount of thought to this and realize that she is probably receiving help from the NDP because we all still associate her as one of their dumbasses and it is a topic that doesn't increase support among NDP voters but makes her look good doing it, therefore making the NDP look good.

Naw. She just decided to pickup this cause one day and run with it. You're right, she's a great human being and elected representative now, this has everything to do with her being a compassionate human that empathizes with others and not some circle jerk political pandering.

[suntan]

Shh...

[FraserB]

Well intentioned overall, but it clearly needs a thorough vetting to make sure the proposed changes can't be misused.

[asp integra]

Originally posted by FraserB
needs a thorough vetting Unlike her and about 1/2 of the NDPers in office

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Or ya know, you could provide just the slightest amount of thought to this and realize that she is probably receiving help from the NDP because we all still associate her as one of their dumbasses and it is a topic that doesn't increase support among NDP voters but makes her look good doing it, therefore making the NDP look good.

I smell strategist on this one more than Deborah's own will.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/new-mla-deborah-drever-suspended-from-ndp-caucus-over-homophobic-remark-under-photo

I don't see someone who doodle sexy mofo and post it on twitter and turn into a women abuse crusader in 6 months. It's just an issue that can't be criticized for her to climb back in.


Originally posted by FraserB
Well intentioned overall, but it clearly needs a thorough vetting to make sure the proposed changes can't be misused.

Well, as long as they reduce that list to just a judge, why not. Nurse, police officer? They are only good as witness and contribute to a judge's decision. It's not their role to judge. So anyone but a judge, this will be misused. And for real, is lease termination that big of a deal when you are trying to escape a beating?


The way I see it, NDP will pass the bill, pat her on the back and welcome her back into caucus within the next few months.

[frizzlefry]

Originally posted by Xtrema
And for real, is lease termination that big of a deal when you are trying to escape a beating?

It can be if her name is on the rental agreement. My cousin is social worker and she sees it time and time again when a woman, who's name is on the rental agreement along with the he abuser, has a hard time cutting him off as she is legally liable for the rental costs. The hubby usually uses it as a tool to sue or otherwise drag her back into the habitation. "You know if you leave I could sue or maybe have the landlord come after you. Why don't you just come home and we'll talk." If they refuse then there is the hit to her credit rating possibly or a court appearance which the abuser can use to get close to her again and whisper sweet nothings in her ear. It is a pretty big deal. Cousin says it's common for an abuser to get the spouses name on a rental agreement and, in the case of a mortgage, keep it off.

It can be a pretty big issue.


Originally posted by Xtrema
The way I see it, NDP will pass the bill, pat her on the back and welcome her back into caucus within the next few months.

No disagreement here. But she is actually doing something. Lots of MLAs who are not in the spotlight just nod and sit and get paid. Perhaps her infamy put her in the situation where she had to work but she was locked in for a stable six figure job for a while and could have sat and done nothing, sat back collected cheques.

Just saying she did not choose the easy path and actually did something. Help or not.

[aaronck]

Originally posted by suntan
Get rid of damage deposits altogether. Ontario doesn't allow them.

I for one would never rent to family without getting a damage deposit first.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Maxt]

Maybe she crafted it based on personal experience.

[lilmira]

That's bill cover material lol

[16hypen3sp]

Not to derail but I just can't figure out where that crotch hand is coming from in that pic.

[Feruk]

Why would she want to get back in with the NDP? They're pretty much doomed in the next election regardless of what they do. If she was smart, she'd start distancing herself from Notley.

[Brent.ff]

Pretty sure she recognizes that this was a pretty sweet 4 year gig, she's not getting re-elected regardless of party

She was on CBC last night talking about this, and it was excruciating to listen to. She not so bright

[spikerS]

She is as dumb as they fucking come. She was a seat filler for the NDP and has no real clue how the government works.

To think that she was able to figure out how to put together a private member's bill, gather all the required information and check the legalities on her own...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This is Notley's team trying to save face, and have neatly gift wrapped it and gave it to her so that she can rejoin the NDP.

Having said that, I am not sure who I find more stupid in this. The NDP for trying to bring this complete imbecil back into their fold, or Drever for thinking anyone is going to believe she was smart enough to get this done...

[colinxx235]

They always talk about the women abuse, but never mention the men... what about us poor guys in abusive relationships :cry: :cry: :cry:

[TomcoPDR]

Originally posted by FraserB
Well intentioned overall, but it clearly needs a thorough vetting to make sure the proposed changes can't be misused.

The rental system is abused all the time by both landlord/tenants, without this bill already.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by frizzlefry
No disagreement here. But she is actually doing something. Lots of MLAs who are not in the spotlight just nod and sit and get paid. Perhaps her infamy put her in the situation where she had to work but she was locked in for a stable six figure job for a while and could have sat and done nothing, sat back collected cheques.

Just saying she did not choose the easy path and actually did something. Help or not.

Actually, she was on the radio last night. Exactly what Sugarphreak and I has guessed. She is still the same dumb kid. This isn't her idea. This is gift wrapped (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-mla-maria-fitzpatrick-bill-204-1.3322053) and handed to her by the NDP because nobody will be against this and anyone can defend it.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by Xtrema
This is gift wrapped (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-mla-maria-fitzpatrick-bill-204-1.3322053) and handed to her by the NDP because nobody will be against this and anyone can defend it.

Yeah that's what I expected it was, too. Low-hanging fruit, spoonfed by the NDP.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by TomcoPDR


The rental system is abused all the time by both landlord/tenants, without this bill already.

Hey honey, let me punch you in the face, I just saw a rental unit up on market that's nicer and cheaper. :rofl:

[sexualbanana]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Hey honey, let me punch you in the face, I just saw a rental unit up on market that's nicer and cheaper. :rofl:

You'll still need verification by a judge or officer. So I can't imagine someone wanting to get out of their lease that bad.

[FraserB]

Just needs to be clarified that a judge is the one who signs any lease dissolution paperwork. As previously stated, nurses, shrinks and cops are not judges.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by sexualbanana


You'll still need verification by a judge or officer. So I can't imagine someone wanting to get out of their lease that bad.

It is that easy if it doesn't go thru our judicial system.

I'm also fine if the process is same as eviction procedure land lord has to go thru.

[JVR1]

Originally posted by 16hypen3sp
Not to derail but I just can't figure out where that crotch hand is coming from in that pic.

:dunno:

Answers!!! we need answers!!

[suntan]

That's Joe Ceci's hand.

[phreezee]

All credibility out the window when you can't even write your own holiday greeting.

Identical holiday greeting messages from NDP MLA Brandy Payne and Independent MLA Deborah Drever printed in community newsletters

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/01/01/identical-holiday-greeting-messages-from-ndp-mla-brandy-payne-and-independent-mla-deborah-drever-printed-in-community-newsletters

[revelations]

Originally posted by suntan
Get rid of damage deposits altogether. Ontario doesn't allow them.

I would not want to be a landlord in BC and ONT. BC has some idiotic laws to protect piss poor tenants and sounds like ONT is the same way. Who pays for the damages then, the provincial government??

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by spikerS
She is as dumb as they fucking come. She was a seat filler for the NDP and has no real clue how the government works.

To think that she was able to figure out how to put together a private member's bill, gather all the required information and check the legalities on her own...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This is Notley's team trying to save face, and have neatly gift wrapped it and gave it to her so that she can rejoin the NDP.

Having said that, I am not sure who I find more stupid in this. The NDP for trying to bring this complete imbecil back into their fold, or Drever for thinking anyone is going to believe she was smart enough to get this done...

That sums it up.

Problem is, ask the average person what the characters NDP, PC, etc, even mean.

[dirtsniffer]

Originally posted by phreezee
All credibility out the window when you can't even write your own holiday greeting.

Identical holiday greeting messages from NDP MLA Brandy Payne and Independent MLA Deborah Drever printed in community newsletters

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/01/01/identical-holiday-greeting-messages-from-ndp-mla-brandy-payne-and-independent-mla-deborah-drever-printed-in-community-newsletters


Hahaha oh man.. :nut:

[rage2]

That was apparently a publishing mistake.

[codetrap]

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[phreezee]

LOL'ed when I saw this on the news

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/more/poll-results

Calgary Poll Question January 8, 2015
Do you agree with the NDP’s decision to welcome MLA Deborah Drever back into government caucus?
Yes

933 (21 %)
No

3479 (79 %)
Total number of votes: 4412