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torob
12-09-2015, 12:35 PM
I wasn't sure where to post this, so i will post it here.

I have a friend who has been applying to jobs on indeed.ca for administrative/reception positions. She got a response from a "investment" company outside of Canada that is opening a Calgary office in "January".
Ras.casse Investments from Malta It seems a little shady to me and I'm not sure exactly which avenue to go to, in order to confirm it's a legitimate position or get some sort of legal advice as precaution.

When they responded, they said after reviewing her resume they wanted to offer a better paid position. (about $3/hr higher iirc) Further down the line, there has been minimal interaction and all communications have been via e-mail. Without a interview, they passed applications and she's "hired".

Now for the first day of her "probation", they want to do e-mail transfers of money to her account "during the probation period of 7 days", then have her remove the money from her bank account and deposit in a bitcoin ATM to a QR code they sent.

It seems like a red flag to me that they're wanting to use the personal account, why couldn't they use the company account even if it's probation period. Does anyone know anything about this company? Or offer any advice so i make sure my friend doesn't get screwed over?

BavarianBeast
12-09-2015, 12:37 PM
lol.

I stopped at Malta.

Scam for sure.

Zhariak
12-09-2015, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by torob
I wasn't sure where to post this, so i will post it here.

I have a friend who has been applying to jobs on indeed.ca for administrative/reception positions. She got a response from a "investment" company outside of Canada that is opening a Calgary office in "January".
Ras.casse Investments from Malta It seems a little shady to me and I'm not sure exactly which avenue to go to, in order to confirm it's a legitimate position or get some sort of legal advice as precaution.

When they responded, they said after reviewing her resume they wanted to offer a better paid position. (about $3/hr higher iirc) Further down the line, there has been minimal interaction and all communications have been via e-mail. Without a interview, they passed applications and she's "hired".

Now for the first day of her "probation", they want to do e-mail transfers of money to her account "during the probation period of 7 days", then have her remove the money from her bank account and deposit in a bitcoin ATM to a QR code they sent.

It seems like a red flag to me that they're wanting to use the personal account, why couldn't they use the company account even if it's probation period. Does anyone know anything about this company? Or offer any advice so i make sure my friend doesn't get screwed over?


Lmao, the moment bitcoins are mentioned: scam!

I'm surprised this is even being posted, it should have just been dismissed.

FraserB
12-09-2015, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by BavarianBeast
lol.

I stopped at Malta.

Scam for sure.

Why do you equate Malta with scam?

My buddy works there in IT for a few online casinos

torob
12-09-2015, 12:43 PM
Yeah, I've gotten her not to do anything, I wanted to confirm what options there could be. They do have her details from the "application". They've gotten far enough to deposit money into her bank. I'm getting my friend to contact the bank to see if they can return the money sent and check the source it came from.

Would we need to contact any specific organization for safety? Identity theft or anything? I'll need to check all the details they got from her.

pheoxs
12-09-2015, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by torob
Yeah, I've gotten her not to do anything, I wanted to confirm what options there could be. They do have her details from the "application". They've gotten far enough to deposit money into her bank. I'm getting my friend to contact the bank to see if they can return the money sent and check the source it came from.

Would we need to contact any specific organization for safety? Identity theft or anything? I'll need to check all the details they got from her.

Cease contact with them and report everything to the bank. They likely used a phished bank account to send the funds. Once the person realizes this and reports it as fraud to their bank, they will follow the transaction and possibly freeze your friends account while they investigate the fraud.

They are hoping you send them bitcoin before this happens so that they get free money.

Stay away, far far away. 100% a scam and even by already depositing the money your friend might be in a world of hurt when it comes back as fraudulent.

carson blocks
12-09-2015, 12:48 PM
The money will be withdrawn shortly when the sending bank realizes it was fraudulently sent, likely via hacked/phished banking credentials. The way the scam works is that the scammer compromises an account or buys the credentials from a hacker / phisher, sends the money to morons like your friend, and gets them to forward it via something anonymous like the BTC ATM you mentioned. They win, and she is stuck having received stolen funds and with an overdrawn account she is responsible for.

roopi
12-09-2015, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by torob
I wasn't sure where to post this, so i will post it here.

I have a friend who has been applying to jobs on indeed.ca for administrative/reception positions. She got a response from a "investment" company outside of Canada that is opening a Calgary office in "January".
Ras.casse Investments from Malta It seems a little shady to me and I'm not sure exactly which avenue to go to, in order to confirm it's a legitimate position or get some sort of legal advice as precaution.

When they responded, they said after reviewing her resume they wanted to offer a better paid position. (about $3/hr higher iirc) Further down the line, there has been minimal interaction and all communications have been via e-mail. Without a interview, they passed applications and she's "hired".

Now for the first day of her "probation", they want to do e-mail transfers of money to her account "during the probation period of 7 days", then have her remove the money from her bank account and deposit in a bitcoin ATM to a QR code they sent.

It seems like a red flag to me that they're wanting to use the personal account, why couldn't they use the company account even if it's probation period. Does anyone know anything about this company? Or offer any advice so i make sure my friend doesn't get screwed over?

Most likely the money that will be transferred to her is from a stolen account. She removes it and then buys bitcoins which they will get back some how. Stolen transfer will be reversed and shes screwed.

torob
12-09-2015, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by pheoxs


Cease contact with them and report everything to the bank. They likely used a phished bank account to send the funds. Once the person realizes this and reports it as fraud to their bank, they will follow the transaction and possibly freeze your friends account while they investigate the fraud.

They are hoping you send them bitcoin before this happens so that they get free money.

Stay away, far far away. 100% a scam and even by already depositing the money your friend might be in a world of hurt when it comes back as fraudulent.

Thanks! Contacting the bank now.

I appreciate the quick responses everyone. It seems like the bank is the best to go to directly.


Originally posted by roopi


... then buys bitcoins which they will get back some how. Stolen transfer will be reversed and shes screwed.

They did give the QR code, which should link to a specific bit-coin wallet i believe. Maybe that can be flagged.

sabad66
12-09-2015, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by torob


Thanks! Contacting the bank now.

I appreciate the quick responses everyone. It seems like the bank is the best to go to directly.



They did give the QR code, which should link to a specific bit-coin wallet i believe. Maybe that can be flagged.
bitcoin wallets aren't traceable/linked to a person. You can login to a public wifi, create a bitcoin wallet and move bitcoins in and out without any link to you personally.

pheoxs
12-09-2015, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by torob


Thanks! Contacting the bank now.

I appreciate the quick responses everyone. It seems like the bank is the best to go to directly.



They did give the QR code, which should link to a specific bit-coin wallet i believe. Maybe that can be flagged.

Bitcoins cannot be reverse and anyone can make a dummy wallet for free without any personal information so there is no way to link it to anything.

What would've happened: She sends bitcoins to the qr codes wallet, they send the coins through a tumbler to their actual wallet and its lost forever and untraceable.

Dumbass17
12-09-2015, 06:36 PM
Is this a real thing? Come on man

ZenOps
12-09-2015, 07:30 PM
Can never be too careful.

If Rob Anders was my boss and he asked me to deliver a package personally by hand I would 100% make sure that it would be sent by FedEx.

Can't trust people won't try to sabotage your life by sneaking a live rattlesnake in your cornflakes. Or plant a brick of drugs.

Seth1968
12-09-2015, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Dumbass17
Is this a real thing? Come on man


It's hard to know that people can be so naive.

leftwing
12-10-2015, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Dumbass17
Is this a real thing? Come on man


Hahah, cant be.