Should Donald Trump be banned from entering Canada?

[ZenOps]

He does seem to have disruptive (anti-everything, including British commonwealth) foreign policy.

I can imagine that Mexico is debating this right now.

[Xtrema]

Donald Trump is the result of pure democracy.

It also why we get only reality TV programing.

So no. He has not done any illegal even if you dont approve his tactics.

[BensonTT]

NO! He's awesome :)

[theken]

he can stay at my house, i would just make him pay me for it

[zieg]

Imagine if he got in the same room with Rob Ford...

[RealJimmyJames]

Be a pretty sad day when we tried to ban someone from entering who hasn't broken any laws either here or in his home country.

[ZenOps]

Technically, Kim Jong UN/IL hasn't done anything illegal either. He tested a nuke or two, the US tests hundreds. He threw some political prisoners in jail, US has Gitmo. They both socialize billions of dollars of losses onto the greater populace or investors.

Trump is pretty close to Kim Jong, very comparible. One just happens to be an Asian guy with weird hair, the other - a White guy with weird hair. If we let Trump in, I say we have to invite Kim Jong Il for a basketball and hockey game.

[A790]

Originally posted by ZenOps
Technically, Kim Jong UN/IL hasn't done anything illegal either. He tested a nuke or two, the US tests hundreds. He threw some political prisoners in jail, US has Gitmo. They both socialize billions of dollars of losses onto the greater populace or investors.

Trump is pretty close to Kim Jong, very comparible. One just happens to be an Asian guy with weird hair, the other - a White guy with weird hair. If we let Trump in, I say we have to invite Kim Jong Il for a basketball and hockey game.
Convenient that you forgot about the concentration camps run by NK. :rolleyes:

[ickyflex]

I'm glad someone had picked up the bat shit crazy personality.

One goes and another comes hurrah

[P_D]

He is only saying in public what most white Americans say behind closed doors. I would love for him to be president just to watch the shit show he creates.

[Mixalot27]

I'd love to see a debate between Nenshi and Trump.

[bjstare]

Originally posted by Mixalot27
I'd love to see a debate between Nenshi and Trump.

Trump would humiliate that goof.

[Gman.45]

Typical liberal/socialist idea - I don't like somebody or what they are saying, so I'll just make a law that makes what they say and do illegal, or bar them from speaking altogether under some legal pretense.

Also, Kim Jong UN hasn't been banned form coming to Canada. I'm sure if he wanted to visit here Trudeau would roll out the red carpet, and honestly why not, he hasn't broken any laws here, even if what he's done during his rule so far doesn't exactly meet with our approval. We've had Saudi princes by the bucket come here, and that country summarily chops the heads off people for things that aren't even crimes here.

[msommers]

Originally posted by RealJimmyJames
Be a pretty sad day when we tried to ban someone from entering who hasn't broken any laws either here or in his home country.

I fucking hate Donald Trump and everything he stands for but I absolutely agree with this statement.

[killramos]

Considering we sided against them in a big way during the Korean War, they have imprisoned Canadian citizens in the past, we do not have an embassy in NK nor do we have any diplomatic relations with the country after they sank one of our allies naval vessels, and they are technically at war with one of our allies; I have my doubts that KJU would ever come here, nor would we ever invite him not matter how deluded Justin Trudeau is.

I doubt any of them would risk leaving the country to anywhere but a close ally due to risk of being sanctioned by the ICC.

Anyhow yea there is literally no reason why we wouldn't let Donald Trump in the country, I'm sure he has been to Canada plenty of times. Just no one cared before he decided to run for president.

I know a lot of people think that the world somehow would end if DT was elected president, those people are however wrong. Might not be a positive force for the country or the world. But then again how many American presidents in the last 50 years could you say we're positive influences on the world.

The world keeps spinning round and round.

[zieg]

Off topic but I'm all for building our own ICBMs and launching against the DPRK before they perfect their nukes...

[ZenOps]

Originally posted by ZiG-87
Off topic but I'm all for building our own ICBMs and launching against the DPRK before they perfect their nukes...

Hah, I'd say there is no reason to invade North Korea as there is nothing to gain.

Now if North Korea (and others like Vietnam) and especially if Britain tried to invade the US, it might be worthwhile to pile on the US even as small a chance as there is at winning - Invading the US would at least be gainful.

Its the same argument for Trump putting a 25% tax on China, you don't put a 25% tax on Africa - because there would be no gain to it.

I'm probably going to regret saying that. Although I'm sure that Trump would take an invasion by Canada as a sign of respect. True capitalists like a good fight in all arenas.

[egmilano]

Come on, didnt trumps grand father make the familys first fortune in bc and yukon :p

[Silviawannab]

Trump has a "Textbook" Mental disorder.


Acording to a number of top U.S. psychologists, like Harvard professor and researcher Howard Gardener, Donald Trump is a “textbook” narcissist. In fact, he fits the profile so well that clinical psychologist George Simon told Vanity Fair, “He’s so classic that I’m archiving video clips of him to use in workshops.” This puts Trump in the same category as a number of infamous dictators like Muammar Gaddafi, Napoleon Bonaparte, and Saddam Hussein.

from

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/a-neuroscientist-explains-trump-has-a-mental-disorder-that-makes-him-a-dangerous-world-leader/

Banning a man because of a disability is against the law I believe.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Silviawannab
Trump has a "Textbook" Mental disorder.


https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_strange_answers_to_the_psychopath_test?language=en

Everyone has a mental disorder. Psychology is a bullshit pseudoscience at the current stages it is at.

[Silviawannab]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_strange_answers_to_the_psychopath_test?language=en

Everyone has a mental disorder. Psychology is a bullshit pseudoscience at the current stages it is at.

Is schizophrenia bullshit?

[dirtsniffer]

I think Toma demonstrated it's legitimacy a few times.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Silviawannab


Is schizophrenia bullshit?

:rolleyes:

[schurchill39]

vPRfP_TEQ-g
This video embedded by A790. When you need an embed, choose A790!

That video gives me the creeps. I want nothing to do with him in Canada if that's what he is bringing to the table.

EDIT: God dammit.... I'll figure out the youtube embedment one of these days :bullshit:

[BMDUBS]

Originally posted by schurchill39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g

That video gives me the creeps. I want nothing to do with him in Canada if that's what he is bringing to the table.

EDIT: God dammit.... I'll figure out the youtube embedment one of these days :bullshit:



Holy fuck am I ever disappointed.

[msommers]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_strange_answers_to_the_psychopath_test?language=en

Everyone has a mental disorder. Psychology is a bullshit pseudoscience at the current stages it is at.

Whether you think it's bullshit is your opinion. But psychology has clearly treated people who would otherwise be suffering mentally and certainly has its uses.

Psychiatrists are using more psychologists in place of handing out more scripts because the therapy exercises that psychologists can work through with patients has led to better overall care vs. a possible dependency on medication that may not be warranted in the first place. Obviously prescriptions when warranted are given out first.

And that's strictly clinical scanarios. How about interrogation techniques? Commercial advertising? These are all bullshit?

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_strange_answers_to_the_psychopath_test?language=en

Everyone has a mental disorder. Psychology is a bullshit pseudoscience at the current stages it is at.

Wow. Someone else who knows this. Surprised you stuck your neck out.

The DSM :rofl:


this riveting documentary blazes the bright light of truth on the brutal pseudoscience and multi-billion dollar fraud that is psychiatry.
We think you have the right to know the cold, hard facts about psychiatry, its practitioners and the threat they pose to our children. Get the truth—watch this film.
Governments, insurance companies and private individuals pay billions of dollars each year to psychiatrists in pursuit of cures that psychiatrists admit do not exist. Psychiatry's "therapies" have caused millions of deaths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryzIeTFu2IM

There a lot more docs regarding this scam.

[SilverRex]

just my 2 cent on trump, he keeps saying he does not belong to any body. my only conspiracy gut tells me he does and still just a puppet to the elite who ever they may be, its just that old tricks doesnt work anymore so they need something new and fresh and trump may be the answer.

I'll believe he has no hidden agenda if he does become president and gets assassinate shortly after otherwise you think the elite will allow him to gain control and do what he please with no consequence? like what Kennedy did

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by SilverRex
just my 2 cent on trump, he keeps saying he does not belong to any body. my only conspiracy gut tells me he does and still just a puppet to the elite who ever they may be, its just that old tricks doesnt work anymore so they need something new and fresh and trump may be the answer.

I'll believe he has no hidden agenda if he does become president and gets assassinate shortly after otherwise you think the elite will allow him to gain control and do what he please with no consequence? like what Kennedy did

Yep. If he doesn't belong to the elite, he'll soon be, or be killed.

[msommers]

Originally posted by Seth1968


Wow. Someone else who knows this. Surprised you stuck your neck out.

The DSM :rofl:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryzIeTFu2IM

There a lot more docs regarding this scam.

CCHR was co-founded in 1969 by the Church of Scientology and Dr. Thomas Szasz, Professor of Psychiatry Emeritus, at a time when Patients were stored in establishments and stripped of all constitutional rights, civil and human.

And this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Commission_on_Human_Rights


9/11 conspiracy theory[edit]
In the immediate aftermath of the September 11 attacks, CCHR-promulgated a conspiracy theory assigning responsibility for the attacks to Ayman al-Zawahiri, alleging that as Osama bin Laden's personal psychiatrist, he was the principal mastermind behind the attacks and had brainwashed bin Laden using pain, drugs and hypnosis.[44]

Fortunately, there are legitimate patient advocacy groups here in Canada for people who need them.

http://www.openarmsadvocacy.com/

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by msommers


Whether you think it's bullshit is your opinion. But psychology has clearly treated people who would otherwise be suffering mentally and certainly has its uses.

I said, and I quote, "at the stages it is at".

Psychology isn't in and of itself a bad thing. It's just currently at the stage of "smoking is good for you".

For many things psychology related, especially diagnosis-wise, you can get 5 different answers from 5 different professionals in the field.

There are some VERY SPECIFIC psychological disorders that have been studied to death and are understood well. As I posted, most people are psychopaths by definition of the DSM. Its no different than what is currently going on with social policy in the western world, it is being driven by poorly informed data on social and psychological issues.

Unfortunately, a certain political leaning gains massively from jumping on the bandwagon of "the feels" rather then using empirical evidence to formulate policy.

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by Silviawannab


Is schizophrenia bullshit?

If you consider it a brain disease caused by an influx or lack of a certain chemical, then yes.

Schizophrenia is an emotional disorder or dare I say, a "spiritual disorder". Basically, a schizophrenic is not able to emotionally cope with life circumstances and/or deeper philosophical truths.

[msommers]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


I said, and I quote, "at the stages it is at".

Psychology isn't in and of itself a bad thing. It's just currently at the stage of "smoking is good for you".

For many things psychology related, especially diagnosis-wise, you can get 5 different answers from 5 different professionals in the field.

There are some VERY SPECIFIC psychological disorders that have been studied to death and are understood well. As I posted, most people are psychopaths by definition of the DSM. Its no different than what is currently going on with social policy in the western world, it is being driven by poorly informed data on social and psychological issues.

Unfortunately, a certain political leaning gains massively from jumping on the bandwagon of "the feels" rather then using empirical evidence to formulate policy.

I completely understood and appreciate what you wrote, as I quoted it as well in my response. However you need to be cognizant of how it can be read because the way that I (and I suspect most others, hence the response I gave) would interpret what you are saying, in summary, is that all psychology right now is bullshit and shouldn't be trusted to any level - to which I don't agree with in the slightest.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by msommers


However you need to be cognizant of how it can be read because the way that I (and I suspect most others, hence the response I gave) would interpret what you are saying

You only interpret how you want to, as most people do. That's alright, but that's also your decision ;) And this is the internet, as Beyond has become adept at demonstrating, any meaningful conversation is lost on these discussions.

Its much more fun to just be obtuse and get people riled up instead ;)

[killramos]

You know whats great?

A bunch of people who know absolutely 0 about what they are talking about discussing how neurological disorders work :rofl:

I wonder what disorder that is :rolleyes:

[A790]

Originally posted by killramos
You know whats great?

A bunch of people who know absolutely 0 about what they are talking about discussing how neurological disorders work :rofl:

I wonder what disorder that is :rolleyes:
:thumbsup: 100% agreed.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by killramos

I wonder what disorder that is :rolleyes:

Probably that one that afflicts 24 year olds with leased bmw's and daddy's money backing them...

:rofl:

But just because you didn't study something in school doesn't mean you can't comment or talk about it (because of course formal education in post secondary is the ONLY way to learn about anything). Not that I'd expect anything less in an opinion from an engineer :rofl:

[killramos]

Ooooh burn. What will I do with myself now that HiTempguy1 has laid all of my secrets for the internet to see :rolleyes:

A little sensitive to the topic of generalized ignorance as per usual bud?

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by killramos

A little sensitive to the topic of generalized ignorance as per usual bud?

The first problem would be assuming I take any of this seriously, the second problem would be me not caring at all what most people on this forum think :rofl:

But to answer the actual question, not at all. I reply because I feel like it, not because of any sensitivity towards the subject. When I get bored, I move onto the next topic of conversation that interests me :thumbsup:

[bjstare]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


Probably that one that afflicts 24 year olds with leased bmw's and daddy's money backing them...

:rofl:

But just because you didn't study something in school doesn't mean you can't comment or talk about it (because of course formal education in post secondary is the ONLY way to learn about anything). Not that I'd expect anything less in an opinion from an engineer :rofl:

Looks like this backfired, you're obviously the one getting riled up here :rofl:

[reijo]

With Rob Ford out of the limelight, we need someone like Donald Trump to come along! ;)

[R154]

Cue the classic Eng vs tech debate. We are starting early this year.

hmm.

[killramos]

Originally posted by R154
Cue the classic Eng vs tech debate. We are starting early this year.

hmm.

Oddly enough, the debate is always just Hitemp, and he always manages to paint both sides in a horrible light.

I think he's actually a lawyer or something :rofl:

Nahh that's giving him too much credit :rolleyes:

[R154]

I love this debate so much. Its my favorite debate. Please have it.

[Disoblige]

Oh hey guys, I got a match right here.

http://www.walldevil.com/wallpapers/a80/match-stick-flame-fire-spark.jpg

Eng > Tech in EVERY WAY. NO IF'S, AND'S, OR BUTT'S. PERIOD. NO RING, GTFO.

[killramos]

:rofl:

[R154]

I have never met a tech who was more competent than me... :dunno:

[msommers]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


The first problem would be assuming I take any of this seriously, the second problem would be me not caring at all what most people on this forum think :rofl:

But to answer the actual question, not at all. I reply because I feel like it, not because of any sensitivity towards the subject. When I get bored, I move onto the next topic of conversation that interests me :thumbsup:

I think the rest of the forum should keep this in mind any time they read your posts in the future. So thank you.

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by R154
I have never met a tech who was more competent than me... :dunno:
http://9buz.com/content/uploads/images/September2014/fishing_like_boss_9buz.jpg

[atgilchrist]

This thread is an early contender for most random topics touched on for the year. Banana bread is delicious.

Back OT, Trump is a goof, but last I checked, that's not a criteria to prevent entrance to Canada.

[Silviawannab]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1



But just because you didn't study something in school doesn't mean you can't comment or talk about it (because of course formal education in post secondary is the ONLY way to learn about anything).

Yes, the internet is full off people with no formal education, that are as qualified as the neuroscientist, from Harvard, that is quoted in the article. I am told this on forums and other places numerous times per day.

Thanks for your enlightened "psychology is bullshit" (in its current state) opinion. It was tremendously valuable.