Has anyone sold a car to a dealership?

[funkedelic2]

Just curious to know if anyone has sold their car directly to a dealership not as a trade in but just a straight sale without purchasing a vehicle from them. What would be fair value? Black book value or less?

[RealJimmyJames]

It happens. Fair value to you is about the same as you could sell it privately for. Fair value to them is a couple grand less than they plan to resell it for.

Black book isn't a useful negotiating tool.

[JohnnyHockey]

Couple grand less haha. ..good one....

Dealerships are not charities, they are not there to be a nice guy and help you out. They exist to maximize profits. What will they give you? As low as they can get it from you for. That being said, if you are trying to sell them a niche car, they will be even less likely to give you anywhere near what you want. Their business revolves around selling cars, and to do that you have to sell cars that people want and are more likely to buy. If you're selling them a Corolla, they're still going to bend you over, why? Because the common cars they can easily get at the auctions, why would they buy it off you unless it was worth their while?

If you are getting desperate you simply just have to keep dropping your price on kijiji, it's simple, you will NEVER get lower on kijiji than you will straight up walking up to a dealership. There is no incentive for them to. And if you go to them, they will know right away that you're desperate.

[max_boost]

Well said Johnny. If you want them to give you a fair price on trade in, you better be buying a car from them where they are making money haha

[funkedelic2]

Gotcha. Cool thanks for the advice

[gpomp]

Depends on the dealership but usually on the low end of the CBB value.

[Rocket1k78]

Originally posted by JohnnyHockey


you will NEVER get lower on kijiji than you will straight up walking up to a dealership

:werd: unless your cars messed up or you need the cash that day i would never sell straight to a dealer.

[94boosted]

I think Honda West and Sunridge Nissan actively advertise that they will buy your car without you buying one from them. But as others have said expect an offer that's about equivalent to a garden variety Kijiji Lowballer.

[Redlyne_mr2]

I buy cars in all the time. Obviously I'd like it to be desirable so it's a quick in and out. What are you trying to sell?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by RealJimmyJames
It happens. Fair value to you is about the same as you could sell it privately for. Fair value to them is a couple grand less than they plan to resell it for.

Black book isn't a useful negotiating tool.

Couple grand less? :rofl: Maybe on a $3,000-$4000 car.

The prices dealers pay for cars are ridiculous and it amazes me how many people do it - I wish I could be there at trade-in time to offer some of these people between dealer and kijiji value, and get a hell of a deal on a used car. And if they make you think you're getting a good deal on the trade in by inflating the value, it means you're getting a crappy deal on the new car.

What surprises me even more is why these people don't put it on Kijiji for a few grand above dealer trade in value, it would sell in 24 hours guaranteed.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by 94boosted
I think Honda West and Sunridge Nissan actively advertise that they will buy your car without you buying one from them. But as others have said expect an offer that's about equivalent to a garden variety Kijiji Lowballer.

Honda West was an absolute joke regarding their new car and trade in pricing - I would avoid that place. We sold my GF's car for fifteen times what they offered (literally), and their price on a new car was thousands higher than any other dealer for the identical thing, including $800 of "fees" tacked on to their "no hassle, no commission" buying process haha. Her car wasn't worth a lot though, but I imagine they would low ball you similarly on a more valuable one. I know you're not recommending them, it just reminded me is all.

[Jlude]

fucking dealerships... I have nothing to add to this thread other than that. So many bad experiences lately while trying to buy a car, so many dishonest fucks out there.

[Disoblige]

Anyone ever sell a non-running car to a dealership? :rofl:

[94boosted]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Honda West was an absolute joke regarding their new car and trade in pricing - I would avoid that place. We sold my GF's car for fifteen times what they offered (literally), and their price on a new car was thousands higher than any other dealer for the identical thing, including $800 of "fees" tacked on to their "no hassle, no commission" buying process haha. Her car wasn't worth a lot though, but I imagine they would low ball you similarly on a more valuable one. I know you're not recommending them, it just reminded me is all.

I had an equally distasteful experience with them, I think they offered me ~9K less than what I ended up selling my GLK for last fall.

[JohnnyHockey]

Originally posted by Disoblige
Anyone ever sell a non-running car to a dealership? :rofl:

To play devil's advocate here....this is one of the reasons why a dealer, if you think of it from a purely business standpoint, would just offer you a really low price, they have to minimize their costs and they have no clue what you're selling them, why are you there and why aren't you able to sell it privately...there must be something wrong with the car? Well they have to factor that in, they don't have time to carefully comb thru and do a thorough inspection, they give you a number that will cover their ass in case you're the one ripping them off, and you take it or leave it. If you've ever had them appraise your car, you'd know that they typically only spend about 10 minutes with it, usually the used car sale manager will take it for test drive and that's it, they don't have a mechanic look at it or put it on a hoist or anything.

[riander5]

Mis post

[Mibz]

Originally posted by Disoblige
Anyone ever sell a non-running car to a dealership? :rofl: So when I bought my Neon from Courtesy Chrysler, it was because my Protege 5 was a fucking lemon. Constant problems, major misfires, engine would die randomly, couldn't idle steadily at all. Kramer Mazda tried to fix it multiple times and couldn't. My Mom was ready to get me a lawyer, but I didn't want that stress.

Thing is, all these problems were intermittent. I'd get the car back from Mazda and it'd go a couple days with no issues, then they'd come back a few times a week after that. So I go to look at this Neon and the sales guy asks if I'm trading something in. I ask him what he'll offer me for it. We go and look at it. Start it up.

Perfect idle.

He offers me what I paid for it. I say great, but then the Neon was more than I wanted to spend so he says he'll give me more on the trade-in, probably a way to keep his commission up, I dunno. Either way, I overpaid a bit on a Neon but sold my lemon to a (shitty) dealership for $2,000 more than I paid for it. Haven't been back to either dealership since, haha.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by JohnnyHockey


To play devil's advocate here....this is one of the reasons why a dealer, if you think of it from a purely business standpoint, would just offer you a really low price, they have to minimize their costs and they have no clue what you're selling them, why are you there and why aren't you able to sell it privately...there must be something wrong with the car? Well they have to factor that in, they don't have time to carefully comb thru and do a thorough inspection, they give you a number that will cover their ass in case you're the one ripping them off, and you take it or leave it. If you've ever had them appraise your car, you'd know that they typically only spend about 10 minutes with it, usually the used car sale manager will take it for test drive and that's it, they don't have a mechanic look at it or put it on a hoist or anything.

Every trade in I've ever seen got an actual inspection at the dealership, and anything wrong with it was taken off the already absurdly low trade in offer.

[SOAB]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Every trade in I've ever seen got an actual inspection at the dealership, and anything wrong with it was taken off the already absurdly low trade in offer.

this is bullshit.

no trade-in goes into the shop unless the deal is done. and once the deal is done, the dealership isn't going back to the customer and saying that they're giving them less than the agreed upon price for their trade-in.

either the dealership will recondition the car for resale, or send it off to auction if its not worth having on the lot.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by SOAB


this is bullshit.

no trade-in goes into the shop unless the deal is done. and once the deal is done, the dealership isn't going back to the customer and saying that they're giving them less than the agreed upon price for their trade-in.

either the dealership will recondition the car for resale, or send it off to auction if its not worth having on the lot.

Bullshit? Haha I've witnessed it happen 3 times now. They inspected the car before offering a trade in value. But I guess you were there so you would know...

I did not say it was the rule, only that it has happened for every time I have been involved in a trade in.

[relyt92]

For the trade ins I've done they've had one of the used managers drive the car and take a good look at it but it's never gone for any kind of actual inspection or anything.

[JohnnyHockey]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Bullshit? Haha I've witnessed it happen 3 times now. They inspected the car before offering a trade in value. But I guess you were there so you would know...

I did not say it was the rule, only that it has happened for every time I have been involved in a trade in.

Can you name the dealership? You must've went to one of those fancy pants dealerships lol or you must've been trading in a real nice car that the planned to sell on their lot.

[Team_Mclaren]

I think Mitsu3000gt is confused between a real service inspection to a simple walkaround by a used car manager...

[Aleks]

Yeah I've never had a car inspected when trading in. Manager would just walk around look at tires, condition of paint/look for body damage and that's it.

I don't get why people are upset about low trade in values. If you or I were running a dealer would you not try to make are much money as you could on a trade in. :dunno:

[SOAB]

no kidding.

so you guys think the dealership should give you top dollar for your POS trade-in and sell you a new car under invoice.

basically, you don't think a dealership should make any profit at all, on any transaction.