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Dynasty 88
09-01-2016, 10:36 AM
In the market for a new truck, looking for some insight from owners of Sierra/Silverado and Ram. Primarily looking to see how they tow and what kind of fuel economy you get. I have a 6400# holiday trailer, I also commute between Calgary and Edmonton often for work.

Leaning to the Sierra at this point. Drove one with the 6.2, mag ride, and 8 speed auto, was extremely impressed. I also tried out a Eco Diesel Ram, a nice ride but felt very underpowered compared to the GMC, the hemi felt better but still a bit behind the 6.2. I'd like to hear how well the Rams tow with the air ride and coil springs.

Also, before someone suggests a Ford- Never ever EVER will I own another F150 (esp ecoturd) I turn in my 14 FX4 EB soon (2yr lease is up) and will be happy to see that unreliable pos go, good luck to its next owners! Fucking lemon lol.

Thanks Beyond!

dirtsniffer
09-01-2016, 11:00 AM
I have a 2015 Silverado with the 5.3, 6 speed and the 3.42 rear end. Here is my fuel economy

http://i64.tinypic.com/rrjq1c.jpg


6.2 with the 8 speed would be awesome and I think there are a few members here with that. Douchebags drive rams. fact.

redblack
09-01-2016, 11:18 AM
Ecoboost F-150. They are just better trucks

r3ccOs
09-01-2016, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by redblack
Ecoboost F-150. They are just better trucks

2017 Ecoboost FTW

bjstare
09-01-2016, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by dirtsniffer
Douchebags drive rams. fact.

riander5
09-01-2016, 11:34 AM
Here we go

roopi
09-01-2016, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by redblack
Ecoboost F-150. They are just better trucks



Originally posted by r3ccOs


2017 Ecoboost FTW




:barf:

03ozwhip
09-01-2016, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by dirtsniffer
Douchebags drive rams. fact.
aw man. :cry:

Dave P
09-01-2016, 11:52 AM
How many teeth do you have? If you re missing any, get a ram and start mouth breathing.

94boosted
09-01-2016, 12:23 PM
If you're looking for a powerful truck I don't think anything can touch a Sierra/Silverado w/ the 6.2 unless Ram is offering the 6.3 in the 1500's now. But I though the 6.2 required premium :dunno:


Originally posted by dirtsniffer
I have a 2015 Silverado with the 5.3, 6 speed and the 3.42 rear end. Here is my fuel economy



That's pretty good mileage, according to my trip computer I'm at 15.3L/100 after ~23,000km, that's 75% city, 15% towing (car hauler) and 10% highway. Also 15' Sierra w/ 5.3 & 3.42's.

SkiBum5.0
09-01-2016, 12:25 PM
Do have any plans on selling the truck within 5 years? If so, go the GMC route. Resale is better.

The 6.2/8L90 is a pretty stout tow mule. I'd probably go max tow if you are pulling that trailer every weekend. That would mean moving down to an SLT trim. It would gain you the 9.75 rear end with the 3.73 gears.

Ram's interior has the better infotainment system, and bigger back seat. GM doesn't have the valvetrain problems the Ram's seemingly all have above 100K.

Long range fuel economy is the EcoDiesel strong point. GM 6.2 is about what dirt posted above because the 8spd.

I think the Ram will be replaced in the next year which may effect your decision. GM is due for a new model in 2018.

GM service is leaps and bounds better than Dodge. Two pretty solid dealers in the city - GSL and Jack Carter.

mzdspd
09-01-2016, 12:57 PM
Pretty tough to beat the 6.2.. Especially when compared to the hemi.

Like other people have said. If resale down the road is a concern, 6.2 all the way! These trucks hold their value very well and are very reliable.

I have a 2014 Sierra SLE (5.3 3.42 gears) and I also drive some of the Laramie Rams and the 5.7 is definitely better then the 5.3. But I still just overall prefer the way the sierra drives. I also think the current sierra looks much better then the current ram.

Can't go wrong with either though!

Nav13
09-01-2016, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Dynasty 88


Also, before someone suggests a Ford- Never ever EVER will I own another F150 (esp ecoturd) I turn in my 14 FX4 EB soon (2yr lease is up) and will be happy to see that unreliable pos go, good luck to its next owners! Fucking lemon lol.

Thanks Beyond!

No matter what you do dont just hand back your old truck. You have a lot of equity sitting in it. Either sell it back to Ford or buy it out and trads it in to the dealership with which ever brand you end up going with. You should hvae 6-7k in equity sitting in that truck.

redblack
09-01-2016, 01:38 PM
The ford will have way better fuel economy than the other trucks. It's a proven chassis with alluminum in the right spots. That's why they are the best truck maker, if it's military grade then it's the best truck out there imo.

Sugarphreak
09-01-2016, 01:51 PM
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Darkane
09-01-2016, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by redblack
The ford will have way better fuel economy than the other trucks. It's a proven chassis with alluminum in the right spots. That's why they are the best truck maker, if it's military grade then it's the best truck out there imo.

Lol! What are you the writer for the commercials?

I'll put my truck against any ecoboost for economy. I have in my computer, logged 100kms highway at 9.1L/100km. Yes, I got 31mpg from rosewood to Saskatoon going 102km/hr with 2 passengers, a baby and all luggage/baby stuff.

5.3, 3.42, 2015 model with the 18" wheels and all terrain package. Haven't seen any other truck except the ram ecodiesel touch that. I also have pics for proove.

roopi
09-01-2016, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak

Also my last GM truck was riddled with endless quality problems. I would never buy another GM product again.

I say the same thing about Ford. Are you referring to your Hummer or was it a GM truck? Yes I am aware they are very similar.

sputnik
09-01-2016, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by redblack
military grade

Those words are marketing fluff.

If they said MIL-SPEC or MIL-STD, then I would pay closer attention.

spike98
09-01-2016, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by redblack
The ford will have way better fuel economy than the other trucks. It's a proven chassis with alluminum in the right spots. That's why they are the best truck maker, if it's military grade then it's the best truck out there imo.

Yes, all the right spots...

http://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150forum.com-vbulletin/800x449/80-13710025_10155144196464552_9005748192975733191_n_9b6d7f9cbc3315e023d065f2b281f8168924d919.jpg

http://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150online.com-vbulletin/800x449/80-13718806_10155144196469552_7149002289747126238_n_f0bff6294063d1ccd8866c6eebab5cf85b5d0c8b.jpg

Sugarphreak
09-01-2016, 02:29 PM
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Dynasty 88
09-01-2016, 02:29 PM
Yeah I don't buy the "military grade" fluff. My EB never did impress with fuel economy, was terrible really.

This new truck I plan to purchase outright and keep for awhile, so durability is a definite concern. I put a good amount of kms yearly, usually 50-70k.

Thanks all for the info/suggestions so far!

dirtsniffer
09-01-2016, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by redblack
The ford will have way better fuel economy than the other trucks. It's a proven chassis with alluminum in the right spots. That's why they are the best truck maker, if it's military grade then it's the best truck out there imo.
:nut: my 5.3 gets better economy than any other the ecoboosts in my office 3-5 L/100km better. you sound like a shill


Originally posted by spike98


Yes, all the right spots...

http://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150forum.com-vbulletin/800x449/80-13710025_10155144196464552_9005748192975733191_n_9b6d7f9cbc3315e023d065f2b281f8168924d919.jpg

http://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150online.com-vbulletin/800x449/80-13718806_10155144196469552_7149002289747126238_n_f0bff6294063d1ccd8866c6eebab5cf85b5d0c8b.jpg



:eek: :eek: :eek:

nissanK
09-01-2016, 02:40 PM
I'm running the 2014 Sierra SLT 6.2 w/ 6 speed and I'm averaging 13.5 L/100kms. (80% highway)

Great truck and I have had zero mechanical issues with it and I'm coming up to 100,000kms already. The 6.2 is a beast on it's own, with the 8 speed it'll be even better.

The only issue I've had is the undercoating for the frame from the factory was absolute shit and the frame developed a lot of rust. Just got it remedied from GM so I don't really have too much else to say about it. not sure if they remedied it on the newest models.

alien
09-01-2016, 02:47 PM
No Tundra? can you wait to see what the titan half ton prices out at?

HiTempguy1
09-01-2016, 02:51 PM
I rented a 2015 5.3 pickup a little while ago. Was incredibly underwhelmed, that thing was garbage.

For not being max tow, it was also stiffly sprung/rode rough.

hampstor
09-01-2016, 02:51 PM
'14 Sierra owner with the 5.3L. Recently towed my tent trailer (~3000 lbs loaded) with the box full of gear out to penticton and back. My mileage heading out there was avg 12.5L/100km. Coming home my economy was poorer, and my overall trip average was just under 14L/100km.

Overall i've had very few issues (aside from shitty headlights in the '14). Recently did a road trip from Calgary -> LA , up the coast and back as well (no trailer) and had no problems at all.



Originally posted by alien
No Tundra? can you wait to see what the titan half ton prices out at?

Sorry I think you've wandered into the wrong thread. This thread is about trucks.

Dynasty 88
09-01-2016, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by nissanK
I'm running the 2014 Sierra SLT 6.2 w/ 6 speed and I'm averaging 13.5 L/100kms. (80% highway)

Great truck and I have had zero mechanical issues with it and I'm coming up to 100,000kms already. The 6.2 is a beast on it's own, with the 8 speed it'll be even better.

The only issue I've had is the undercoating for the frame from the factory was absolute shit and the frame developed a lot of rust. Just got it remedied from GM so I don't really have too much else to say about it. not sure if they remedied it on the newest models.


Good to hear from someone with higher kms. One concern I did have with the GM truck was the direct injection and the carbon issues some vehicles have with it. Ever had issues with carbon? Anybody running a catch can of some type?

nissanK
09-01-2016, 03:09 PM
Not running a catch can myself. I have been running a can of seafoam through it once every few oil changes as a bit of a preventative maintenance.

I will be inspecting the valves and carbon buildup once I cross the 100,000km mark.

r3ccOs
09-01-2016, 03:12 PM
I've heard of issues with 8L90, and how its less effective than the ZF 8HP that is used in the Ram and many other vehicles... however I think the failure rates indicate that this is still a non-concern.

From a crash perspective, I've also heard the Ram does not fair as well... as per some IIHS youtube vids and rating.

After driving the Ram for a month, and sitting in Sport/Laramie trims and up... I have to say that the value is really good and it is a very livable truck.

I definitely would suggest going to the 6.2 in the GM/GMC lineup, as I did not find the 5.3, regardless of all the new tech that has gone into it, fairs to any of the modern motors (Ecoboost, 6.2, Hemi)

Not that I would completely avoid Tundra, but its chasis is definately dated... I love the design, and its going to be as every bit capable for what most half ton users would use it for, but it is just not class leading in any categories, let alone fuel consumption.

I do believe the new 5.6 in the Titan is going to be a screamer, as it is in the QX80 I've driven.

long story short, you can't go wrong with either... Ram is IMO the best value, if you can live with being labeled a douche.

Thing is.. considering you have a FX4 ecoboost MY14... I really would reckon that both of those trucks aren't necessary an improvement... so :dunno:

what reliability issues did you have with your truck?

dirtsniffer
09-01-2016, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
I rented a 2015 5.3 pickup a little while ago. Was incredibly underwhelmed, that thing was garbage.

For not being max tow, it was also stiffly sprung/rode rough.

:rolleyes:

r3ccOs
09-01-2016, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by dirtsniffer


:rolleyes:

I drove these a few times...

what I loved... shorter height, yet the same ground clearance as other truck
Drove more like a smaller SUV

what I hated...
Small cab
underwhelming engine

Minimalist
09-01-2016, 03:48 PM
One photo of a tragic accident does not make a case for anything. It was not a test, it was a one-off result. Think a GM, RAM or Toyota would have done better? Can't tell from a photo. Interesting how it basically peeled away from the body. Jaws of life used?

Check real science based testing for a reality check and you'll find Ford to be the leader in the area of safety. I've no skin in the game other than not allowing personal opinions to cloud real facts on crash testing:

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/v/class-summary/large-pickups

03ozwhip
09-01-2016, 03:56 PM
alright I'll chime in. I have a '13 Ram Hemi 1500, maybe I'm a douchebag, I don't really care. I've had the ram since it had 6k on it and it's now on 39k.

I've had 1 issue with the head unit which was replaced. other than that, it's comfortable and reliable and was way more affordable than any other truck on the market when I was looking for a truck.

mine is a crew cab, so the back seat is huge, not F150 huge because that back seat is like nothing I've ever seen, but bigger than the equivalent Chev/GMC etc. I don't have leather or Nav or DVD, but I have the big touchscreen and heated seats and steering wheel.

when I was shopping for the same options on other trucks, I couldn't get the same thing for less than 8k more than what I paid for my truck.

obviously cost is a big issue, but what you get vs what you pay for, the Ram is miles ahead of the competition and I would buy one again, douche status or not...I also drive a BMW, so I clearly don't care about how I'm portrayed lol

blubs
09-01-2016, 04:17 PM
Id go the GM with a trailer that heavy. Unless you are willing to put airbags in it the poor thing will sag like crazy with the tongue weight. They drive nice when empty, make a fair amount of power. But once you have a heavy trailer on them they show the strain and will be dragging on the ground.

Put a loaded 4 place sled trailer on a stock ram a few years ago... Mud flaps touched the ground. Put the same thing on my old titan... Did not have an issue.

I wont even mention the Ford.

03ozwhip
09-01-2016, 04:24 PM
I should mention that I have rear airbags.

spike98
09-01-2016, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Minimalist
One photo of a tragic accident does not make a case for anything. It was not a test, it was a one-off result. Think a GM, RAM or Toyota would have done better? Can't tell from a photo. Interesting how it basically peeled away from the body. Jaws of life used?

Check real science based testing for a reality check and you'll find Ford to be the leader in the area of safety. I've no skin in the game other than not allowing personal opinions to cloud real facts on crash testing:

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/v/class-summary/large-pickups

Yes, science...

http://driving.ca/chevrolet/silverado/auto-news/news/does-chevrolets-steel-vs-aluminum-argument-hold-any-water

At any rate, im not getting into a pissing match over the internet about metallurgy. There are several more instances of unusual catastrophic failures of the cab of the new fords. Not to mention the issues described in the article about the durability of them.

In reality, its too early for anyone to tell, but in my opinion they are not off to a good start.

As a dodge owner, i still say go with the GMC.

Maxt
09-01-2016, 08:23 PM
The 2015 GM quad cab I drove back from Sask handled like its steering parts were made of wet spaghetti. A very tiring drive keeping that thing in straightline. It had something like 5000 km's on it, of which a 1000 were mine.

AndyL
09-01-2016, 08:41 PM
That's guy wire impact (hold up power poles) - not jaws of life. Jaws of life they cut the hinges and pillars and drop the side out. They'd never cut that far up into engine compartment...

And no - never seen a steel bodied car open up that way ;)

Wait till you see what happens when they catch fire!

ShermanEF9
09-01-2016, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by spike98


Yes, all the right spots...

http://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150forum.com-vbulletin/800x449/80-13710025_10155144196464552_9005748192975733191_n_9b6d7f9cbc3315e023d065f2b281f8168924d919.jpg

http://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150online.com-vbulletin/800x449/80-13718806_10155144196469552_7149002289747126238_n_f0bff6294063d1ccd8866c6eebab5cf85b5d0c8b.jpg

Never seen anything hit something with precise cuts.

This was an extraction. Use your head.

HiTempguy1
09-01-2016, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by dirtsniffer


:rolleyes:

What? I drove it for a week! I'm a GM fanboy through and through, it's pretty shit when my tuned 04 5.3 pulls as well as that limp wristed 2015 did.

I like our incredibly dated 2009 Nissan Titan compared to a 2015 sierra. The truck itself isnt bad, the drivetrain is just crap compared to other offerings. Retarded transmission, shit shifting, and a weak-suck motor.

I am not saying the other trucks are better or worse, just that I would not buy a 2015 (and I was going to, hence the rental).

Sdeibert
09-02-2016, 07:28 AM
We shopped for quite a while to replace our 2010 F150, ended up grabbing a 16 F150 again.

The Ram with airbags has by far the best ride and probably the nicest interior. Just need them to remove the awful RAM off the back!! We liked the truck just couldn't get them down in price

Chevy. My last two work trucks (diesel) have been Chevys and I really like them especially the 15 such a quiet cab. She likes buttons/features and well they just don't have as many. :dunno:

I really wanted the Chev with a 6.2 almost had the wife convinced but then she asked to go to Ford

And well here we sit, picking up our new F150 today. Grabbed a '16 Limited with max tow for quite the price! I phoned around up in the Peace Country and got a pretty good deal, I took my deal to a local Red Deer dealer and they said to take it as they wouldn't match/beat it.

I'll find out soon how it tows, the old 5.4 Triton towed the boat (6500 lbs) ok so have to see what this one does.

bjstare
09-02-2016, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by ShermanEF9


Never seen anything hit something with precise cuts.

This was an extraction. Use your head.

Same goes for you. Do you think they actually peeled the front fender off for an extraction? What, so they could get the windshield washer tank out, even though the hood was jammed shut?

r3ccOs
09-02-2016, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by HiTempguy1


What? I drove it for a week! I'm a GM fanboy through and through, it's pretty shit when my tuned 04 5.3 pulls as well as that limp wristed 2015 did.

I like our incredibly dated 2009 Nissan Titan compared to a 2015 sierra. The truck itself isnt bad, the drivetrain is just crap compared to other offerings. Retarded transmission, shit shifting, and a weak-suck motor.

I am not saying the other trucks are better or worse, just that I would not buy a 2015 (and I was going to, hence the rental).

What is funny here is that the Titan was the truck that revolutionized everything, as compared to the very formidable GMT800, and 1st gen tundra or 10th gen F150... the Titan had the biggest power numbers, used VVTI, capable chasis, and good looking (almost modern) chasis.

I think that was the first truck to break 0-60 in the sub 7 seconds.

What's crazy, outside of fuel economy and power #'s it still holds up well. The power numbers reflect low in comparison, but its just as quick of a truck as any, and I still think drives better than the current Tundra.

I feel that GM has been very pragmatic in the last 2 generations, and though styling is IMO the best... it is still very much the same trucks with subtle improvements throughout the years.

the 13th gen Ford was the same, until the ecoboost, and if you consider that a "new" engine, then coupled to a redesigned chasis and body... the newest truck is really almost "all new" and the 2017's with the 2nd gen Ecoboost truly is.

but really at this point, I'd say all trucks are almost all equally capable, and livable with merit points barely going to any manufacturer.

I'm surprised about the Ram comment, as my buddy bought a Ram sport (Inrich loaded) with everything but sunroof (i.e. heated/cooled seats) for about 44k last year, which IMO was cheaper than even the outgoing model F150 FX4, and certainly any of the similar trim SLT or High Country offerings from Chev GMC

Darkane
09-02-2016, 09:59 AM
Those of you who think the 5.3 is underwhelming, well it's not supposed to be the hotrod of the house.

Even still, I find it plenty powerful. Maybe mine is a factory freak, but I can spin both tires very easily on command (lsd also) and it feels plenty fast.

If you guys want more juice from the 5.3, fill it with 94. It's factory programmed to respond to ethanol/higher knock resistance.

EG: it's the only truck with separate power figures for E85 (which we don't have I know).

Stock 87 octane: 355/383
Stock E85: 380/416

Should eat a hemi with ethanol being the lighter truck.

dubhead
09-02-2016, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by ShermanEF9


Never seen anything hit something with precise cuts.

This was an extraction. Use your head.

Can't seem to find the original Facebook post of the photo but story went something like the driver it a pole at 110km/hr had to be cut out and walked away

HiTempguy1
09-02-2016, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by r3ccOs


What is funny here is that the Titan was the truck that revolutionized everything, as compared to the very formidable GMT800, and 1st gen tundra or 10th gen F150... the Titan had the biggest power numbers, used VVTI, capable chasis, and good looking (almost modern) chasis.

To this day, it is ferociously fast even if "underrated" compared to the new trucks. And it is VERY strong directly off-idle, not like all of these new trucks with their nannies.

There are a lot of things I HATE about the Titan. But I use trucks as trucks, so the drivetrain is the most important part. Other than comfortable seats, I don't really care about much else.

spike98
09-02-2016, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by dubhead


Can't seem to find the original Facebook post of the photo but story went something like the driver it a pole at 110km/hr had to be cut out and walked away

Its on 150forum.com and the driver hit another truck. Was not cut out.

The thread also had FD members chime in about extraction situations and the like. The determination was that it definitely was the result of an accident.

Interestingly enough, for my search to get some proove, i come across a ton of other problems related to the material used to make the body such as misaligned doors, tailgates snapping off, and of course the old pierce the box debacle.

SkiBum5.0
09-02-2016, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by HiTempguy1


What? I drove it for a week! I'm a GM fanboy through and through, it's pretty shit when my tuned 04 5.3 pulls as well as that limp wristed 2015 did.

I like our incredibly dated 2009 Nissan Titan compared to a 2015 sierra. The truck itself isnt bad, the drivetrain is just crap compared to other offerings. Retarded transmission, shit shifting, and a weak-suck motor.

I am not saying the other trucks are better or worse, just that I would not buy a 2015 (and I was going to, hence the rental).

You're bang on about the engine/trans. It's not hardware though, it's software. Reduced TQ in 1 and 2 gear, combined with MPG-biased shift pattern. The 6.2 does not suffer from the same poor tuning (although it isn't perfect).

And OP, I don't think anyone has the mileage on the DI motors to comment on carbon build up. I know lots of guys who use catch cans but I turned V4 mode off and I'm not going to worry about the build up. I'll have 2 scenarios:

1. I'll sell the truck before build up will be a problem
2. The top end will seize up at 250,000kms and by then the truck will be worth nothing - in goes a gently used replacement - LS re-swap bro

r3ccOs
09-02-2016, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by HiTempguy1


To this day, it is ferociously fast even if "underrated" compared to the new trucks. And it is VERY strong directly off-idle, not like all of these new trucks with their nannies.

There are a lot of things I HATE about the Titan. But I use trucks as trucks, so the drivetrain is the most important part. Other than comfortable seats, I don't really care about much else.

it seems to be "lighter" which I think is why its always been quicker and definately that 5 speed transmission has much less "torque management" when compared to say my 6R80 in my F150...

If I were to build a pre-runniner desert racer, I wouldn't mind using the titan

5020 lbs... as per:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/nissan-titan-56se-crew-cab-road-test

thinking that wow... it was 03' when it came out, it really was ahead of its time, considering how close a number of its figures, and size of cab are in comparison to half tons a decade newer

nytrydr89
09-02-2016, 01:47 PM
New half ton Titan should be landing soon. Worth checking out and will have best in class warranty Nissan is now offering 5yr/160,000km full bumper to bumper on all 2017 Titan trucks.

5.6L 390hp / 394 lb ft. and decent fuel economy I know its better than a Ram 1500 with a hemi. Rated for 11.1 highway and 15.2 city.

r3ccOs
09-02-2016, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by nytrydr89
New half ton Titan should be landing soon. Worth checking out and will have best in class warranty Nissan is now offering 5yr/160,000km full bumper to bumper on all 2017 Titan trucks.

5.6L 390hp / 394 lb ft. and decent fuel economy I know its better than a Ram 1500 with a hemi. Rated for 11.1 highway and 15.2 city.

That engine is a beast in the QX80.

Amazing what some headwork and direct injection can do... that said, the old engine had 317hp (low) but still decent torque (385 lbs)

topsecret
09-02-2016, 04:39 PM
I have a 2013 RAM 1500 sport, I will not buy another dodge truck again, the interior rattles, the u connect is glitchy at best (screen freezes, locks out etc), they don't hold their value at all, I had issues with the air ride last winter, the trans dropped a valve body at 102k I had to fight to get even a portion of it covered under warranty, it has the 6 speed I get around 15 lph around the city, 22+ towing....My next truck will be a Diesel GM, they ride nice, are quiet and tow with zero issues, they also hold their value better than any of the trucks on the market. Take that for what its worth. My suggestion is if you're buying new go drive some used ones and see what they're like @ 100kms + so you get an idea of what its like 3-4 years down the road.

killramos
09-02-2016, 05:02 PM
I think the obvious answer here is a Ridgeline.

r3ccOs
09-02-2016, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by topsecret
I have a 2013 RAM 1500 sport, I will not buy another dodge truck again, the interior rattles, the u connect is glitchy at best (screen freezes, locks out etc), they don't hold their value at all, I had issues with the air ride last winter, the trans dropped a valve body at 102k I had to fight to get even a portion of it covered under warranty, it has the 6 speed I get around 15 lph around the city, 22+ towing....My next truck will be a Diesel GM, they ride nice, are quiet and tow with zero issues, they also hold their value better than any of the trucks on the market. Take that for what its worth. My suggestion is if you're buying new go drive some used ones and see what they're like @ 100kms + so you get an idea of what its like 3-4 years down the road.

Post 2013 w/ the 8 speed and updated interior... I wonder what the JD Edwards reliability review indicate?

carson blocks
09-02-2016, 08:51 PM
I've had two Rams now, not a Dodge fan but they've been good trucks. #1 was a 2014 2500 Laramie Crew 4x4 Cummins 6spd. No problems in 69k of banging up and down lease roads, but did get a 'service air bag' and 'service abs' once just before getting rid of it while banging down some exceptionally bumpy roads and a 'service DEF' once after 2hrs of idling in -38 weather, all of which went away on their own.

Ram #2 is a '16 1500 Longhorn Crew 4x4 with the 5.7 and the new 8spd. I miss my diesel, but for a gasser this is a great truck. Smooth ride, great interior, the new uConnect works great, and the 8spd is the best automatic I've driven. I've got 30,000k on it since January and it's been flawless so far. It's been everywhere from Northern AB lease roads to Death Valley CA. It hauls my toyhauler fully loaded with my heavy Honda SxS and hasn't caused me a moment's trouble. Fuel mileage is exceptional for a well equipped crewcab 4x4 at 11L/100km highway if I drive nice, 12-13l/100km average city and highway mixed.

My next truck will be a Ram as well, another 2500 diesel as soon as I get back to work. I like the interiors, can't live without RamBoxes, and I get them 18-20k cheaper than a comparable GM or Ford. With how used Cummins Ram pickups hold their value, they're the only choice in my books. I went with the 1500 gasser last time to save ~16k and regret being such a cheapskate.