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SilverRex
09-30-2016, 03:10 PM
These are the 3 cars I may be shopping for the next family vehicle.

Anyone have some good advice on the pros and cons on them?

in a quick snap shot

some rough numbers including GST/fees

IS350 AWD Fsport3 - 54k
TLX SHAWD tech - 49k
Q50 AWD red sport -59k (<-- I figure the only reason I would think about this one is for the 400hp twin turbo v6)

some of you may say 10k price swing between the TLX and Q50 is a bit of a stretch and I agree but I am very curious to understand where it fits comparing to the other two.

most are virtually loaded.

And yes the Q50 red is more money but is it worth it.

right now Lexus has the better deal with the 3k factor rebate. Until I go test drive them and see their offers, I probably shouldnt give the advantage to Lexus just yet.

if you have driven and owned one of them, your comments are much appreciated it.

:)

update: well picked up a '16 IS300 AWD fsport3 package.

at the end of the day, it was a deal I couldnt refuse and my wife fell in love with the ML audio.

JohnnyHockey
09-30-2016, 03:13 PM
If you can afford the Infiniti why wouldn't you? You don't want to be stuck with a boring gutless Toyota/Honda:barf:

muse017
09-30-2016, 03:19 PM
IS 350 for family vehicle? No thanks. I don't know about TLX or Q50 but the interior of IS were just not meant to carry family unless you have new born or kid under 5.
I'd go for Q50 if you could afford it.

Xtrema
09-30-2016, 03:42 PM
Space TLX

Looks IS

A compromise of 2 and 400hp, Q50.

Especially they have almost $5K on the hood for the Q50 or almost 0% lease. Seems like a good deal too.

schocker
09-30-2016, 03:46 PM
Yeah, Q50 was already pretty nice interior wise, but the choice of 300 or 400hp is pretty nice.

BokCh0y
09-30-2016, 04:00 PM
1. Q50 - Best bang for the buck, looks, power

2. IS350 - Looks, reliability, resale value, refinement

3. Acura TLX - Looks

mzdspd
09-30-2016, 04:01 PM
Q50 has horrible steering with that system they use.. TLX is nice but a little bland. I have one friend that has a TLX and another friend that has a IS350 F sport

IMO the IS350, is the best drivers car. Longitudinal mounted engine. It is also the lightest.. It has the driving characteristics of a RWD vehicle. The brakes are nice, power is good.

Edit: Here is a good comparison of the Q50 vs IS
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/reviews/a5213/the-comparison-65-3-roa1013/

Keep in mind that it has the older engine with less power but more power does not necessarily mean a better car.

Couple more good reviews below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM2OMA1pnh0&t=518s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA_Da8ZLwB0

schocker
09-30-2016, 04:14 PM
^^I think you only get direct adaptive steering (Q50) if you get the tech package, only issue is the tech package has a bunch of other features too.

Mitsu3000gt
09-30-2016, 04:21 PM
IS350 is small for a family vehicle, and boring af to drive with that engine IMHO.

Q50 Red would be by far the best combination of size & power I think. Plus it's good value.

bjstare
09-30-2016, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by mzdspd
Q50 has horrible steering with that system they use.. TLX is nice but a little bland. I have one friend that has a TLX and another friend that has a IS350 F sport

IMO the IS350, is the best drivers car. Longitudinal mounted engine. It is also the lightest.. It has the driving characteristics of a RWD vehicle. The brakes are nice, power is good.

Edit: Here is a good comparison of the Q50 vs IS
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/reviews/a5213/the-comparison-65-3-roa1013/

Keep in mind that it has the older engine with less power but more power does not necessarily mean a better car.

Couple more good reviews below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM2OMA1pnh0&amp;t=518s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA_Da8ZLwB0

Your road and track review isnt' the Q50 red sport - the red sport is quite a different car, steering included IIRC. The reviews I've read (and people I've spoken with that have driven it) say the red sport is a much better drive, and the steering isn't as bad.


Anyways, Silverrex, I'd absolutely go infiniti if you want a bit of driving fun. If you don't care as much about a drivers car, go for the TLX. It will probably run forever and retain it's value relatively well.

SilverRex
09-30-2016, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Q50 Red would be by far the best combination of size &amp; power I think. Plus it's good value.

any other manufacturers in a similar price range with the same power/feature as the Q50 for a more direct comparison?

JohnnyHockey
09-30-2016, 08:08 PM
Ya but they're German and unreliable.

Xtrema
09-30-2016, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by SilverRex


any other manufacturers in a similar price range with the same power/feature as the Q50 for a more direct comparison?

Fully loaded $60K with $5K cash back.

Germans will all start at $55K and fully loaded around $72K-$75K.

muse017
09-30-2016, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by SilverRex


any other manufacturers in a similar price range with the same power/feature as the Q50 for a more direct comparison?

perhaps Genesis sedan with 5.0l v8?

Xtrema
09-30-2016, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by muse017


perhaps Genesis sedan with 5.0l v8?

1000lb heavier, not much more power. It's a cruiser. Even if price and spec sheet is similar after $8K discount.

s2k_boi
09-30-2016, 09:24 PM
Q50 gets my vote.

The IS is super small for a family vehicle. We looked at it and the doors wouldn't fit our rear facing car seat easily. The TLX is decent enough in size, but fairly boring to drive as mentioned previously.

Mitsu3000gt
10-01-2016, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by SilverRex


any other manufacturers in a similar price range with the same power/feature as the Q50 for a more direct comparison?

If you're OK without a full load, I think you can get a C450/C43 for not much more. I think they are smaller though, if that is a concern as a family hauler. That would be my choice in that range personally if buying new - the drive is amazing. Then again if I was spending close to $70K I would go buy a 2014 Audi S6 :) Much faster and much better suited for family use.

Xtrema
10-01-2016, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


If you're OK without a full load, I think you can get a C450/C43 for not much more. I think they are smaller though, if that is a concern as a family hauler. That would be my choice in that range personally - the drive is amazing.

Q50 isn't really that much bigger than C450/C45. 1/2" wheelbase and may be a tiny bit wider. They felt virtually the same inside.

avishal26
10-01-2016, 12:40 PM
Not sure if SilverRex is trying to stay under $60k.... I see some mention of $70k, so here's my take:

For $70k you can also get a 2014 / 2015 / 2016 Audi A7 full load :) More spacious than any of your options and has a 3.0 L supercharged V6 that makes for a fun drive. Huge upgrade in fit and finish compared to a Q50.

Not sure if you only want to buy new.

With some negotiating you could probably get it for under $70k.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2016-audi-a7-3-0t-technik-quattro-8sp-tiptronic/1190923102?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

revelations
10-01-2016, 01:00 PM
If youre not planning on keeping the vehicle past its warranty, then the Germans might not be a bad idea.

SilverRex
10-02-2016, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by revelations
If youre not planning on keeping the vehicle past its warranty, then the Germans might not be a bad idea.

while it appears the longest i keep my cars is around 3-5 years, I still would like to purchase a car with the intention of keeping it past it's warranty period.

Xtrema
10-03-2016, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by SilverRex


while it appears the longest i keep my cars is around 3-5 years, I still would like to purchase a car with the intention of keeping it past it's warranty period.

You can negotiated extended warranty up front and bump it up to 6 if that's your intention. But that will only means the price gap will be even wider.

Truth be told, nobody know the reliability of Q50 anyway since they now have turbo and that steering by wire system.

blownz
10-03-2016, 11:58 AM
TSX is not much fun to drive and honestly just feels like an accord (ie cheap). Nav is also crap to use (the two screens).

IS350 is more fun to drive, but small as mentioned, and the Nav (joystick thing) is probably the shittiest in the industry.

Not familiar with the newer Infiniti so I can't comment, but I would really consider an Audi/BMW/MB/Jaguar if you are willing to spend $60K. Much better cars and reliability isn't an issue if you are keeping it for 5 years or less.