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schurchill39
04-21-2017, 08:51 AM
I've been running Ad Block Plus on firefox/mozilla fora long time now specifically for the annoying unskippable videos on youtube. A month ago or so it stopped working and I think they are trying to make up for lost time, every video has a 1.5 minute unskippable add and its driving me crazy.

Short of switching browsers, what are you Firefox guys using for an ad blocker (specifically for you tube)

Seth1968
04-21-2017, 09:09 AM
I use FF with AB+ and it works well. Although, it depends on if the ads are built right into the video.

Try deleting and re-installing AB+. If that still doesn't help, post a couple of examples.

HiTempguy1
04-21-2017, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by schurchill39

Short of switching browsers

"Please help me fix my problem, but the obvious and rational solution isn't allowed"

:p

I was the biggest fan of Firefox. Ran it close to a decade.

Chrome is much better :dunno: And solves your problem. Just sayin'.

suntan
04-21-2017, 09:55 AM
uBlock Origin and Disconnect.

schurchill39
04-21-2017, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by HiTempguy1


"Please help me fix my problem, but the obvious and rational solution isn't allowed"

:p

I was the biggest fan of Firefox. Ran it close to a decade.

Chrome is much better :dunno: And solves your problem. Just sayin'.

I have to run chrome for a few internal things at work and its brutal. I find it slower and a lot more glitchy than Mozilla and only slightly better than using explorer (probably on par with safari). :dunno:

Seth1968
04-21-2017, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by schurchill39


I have to run chrome for a few internal things at work and its brutal. I find it slower and a lot more glitchy than Mozilla and only slightly better than using explorer (probably on par with safari). :dunno:

If that's the case then Chrome probably needs a reset:

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/3296214?hl=en

HiTempguy1
04-21-2017, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by schurchill39


I have to run chrome for a few internal things at work and its brutal. I find it slower and a lot more glitchy than Mozilla and only slightly better than using explorer (probably on par with safari). :dunno:

I refer to Seth's reply.

Honestly, there is no comparison. I will allow that Mozilla MIGHT have gotten its shit together, its been a bit over two years since I last ran firefox because it was awful. Slow, glitchy, websites not loading properly, etc etc.

I run Chrome on all my machines, and it blows firefox out of the water (I refuse to even acknowledge explorers existence, piece of shit). Chrome also integrates nicely with so many things being Android devices/if you use googles other services.

suntan
04-21-2017, 10:25 AM
Well I gave the correct answer but I guess I'm on schurchill39's ignore list. Keep on jacking off with HiTempguy1!

Seth1968
04-21-2017, 10:26 AM
Being in the industry, I'm constantly using Opera, Chrome, FF, IE, and Edge. I don't see any significant difference in page load times between all those (especially once the pages are cached). If you do see a big difference, then it means that the browser has partial corruption, an extension / toolbar issue, or the antivirus.

schurchill39
04-21-2017, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by suntan
Well I gave the correct answer but I guess I'm on schurchill39's ignore list. Keep on jacking off with HiTempguy1!

Did someone shit in your corn flakes this morning?

suntan
04-21-2017, 01:36 PM
Try them or not, it's up to you. Or you can keep trying to put angels on the head of a pin.

schurchill39
04-21-2017, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by suntan
Try them or not, it's up to you. Or you can keep trying to put angels on the head of a pin.

Yea I'll give them a go when I have a break here in a bit. No need to get all uppity and wound up, sounds like you need a nap.

schurchill39
04-21-2017, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Seth1968
I use FF with AB+ and it works well. Although, it depends on if the ads are built right into the video.

Try deleting and re-installing AB+. If that still doesn't help, post a couple of examples.

Tried this but I'm still getting ads. Everything from A&W, to Prince Albert National Park, to some tow truck company in Calgary, to Rock Auto.com. There was even a Chevy add thrown in the mix. Both AB+ and uBlock Origin seem to do fine on banner ads and other crap on regular websites but the forced adds at the beginning of every video is driving me nuts.



Originally posted by suntan
uBlock Origin and Disconnect.

Hey Grumpy McGrumpface, that didn't work either.

Seth1968
04-21-2017, 07:02 PM
Post the URL of a couple of those videos.

schurchill39
04-22-2017, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Seth1968
Post the URL of a couple of those videos.

This one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtU_XibLXSk) A&W commercial

And this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlOIqqfOHo) Rock Auto Commercial

Even this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miZxYjqqjZM) Some garden fertilizer mix commercial

Those were just the first three I clicked on from my you tube home page. The adds were different from when I looked at them yesterday so I don't think they are built into the video.

Seth1968
04-22-2017, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by schurchill39


This one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtU_XibLXSk) A&W commercial

And this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlOIqqfOHo) Rock Auto Commercial

Even this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miZxYjqqjZM) Some garden fertilizer mix commercial

Those were just the first three I clicked on from my you tube home page. The adds were different from when I looked at them yesterday so I don't think they are built into the video.

I didn't get any ads with FF and AB+ on any of those videos.
With AD+ disabled, I got the typical ad at the beginning on the first 2, but not on the third.

Seth1968
04-22-2017, 11:33 AM
Also schurchill,

Make sure you're using the latest version of FF, and remove needless add-ons in FF.

After that, install the latest version of Flash at:

https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

De-select the extra crappola it wants to install.

schurchill39
04-24-2017, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Seth1968
Also schurchill,

Make sure you're using the latest version of FF, and remove needless add-ons in FF.

After that, install the latest version of Flash at:

https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

De-select the extra crappola it wants to install.

I followed all of your instructions here and I'm still getting ads. I got rid of all other add ons besides ab+, and even went as far as getting rid of it and reinstalling it.

A little more information: I'm seeing this on both my work PC and my personal Mac which both run FF. MY wife runs FF with AB+ on the personal Mac and she doesn't see ads. I looked over her settings yesterday side by side with my computer and I didn't see any difference really.

That being said, on ad heavy websites like The Chive ab+ seems to clean it up nicely.

Seth1968
04-24-2017, 08:10 AM
Those are good clues, but unfortunately just add more head scratching.

Based on the new info, we can rule out just about everything. It seems the only logical conclusion is you're cursed:)

Seriously though, do you run third party software that your wife doesn't run? More specifically, a program which may affect certain browser functions such as an antivirus or other type of security?

Also, it might be a good test to temporarily try Chrome with AB.

revelations
04-24-2017, 08:29 AM
I checked those videos, latest FF running ublock, no ads shown. You may have a browser or PC issue of some kind.


If you're running an antivirus programs, try disabling all their services temporarily and then run a standalone/onetime program called adware cleaner.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/adwcleaner/

Seth1968
04-24-2017, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by revelations
I checked those videos, latest FF running ublock, no ads shown. You may have a browser or PC issue of some kind.


If you're running an antivirus programs, try disabling all their services temporarily and then run a standalone/onetime program called adware cleaner.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/adwcleaner/

I thought about an infection, but that seems unlikely given that it occurs on the Mac and PC. Also, I haven't even heard of any type of infection like that, nor have any other techs I know.

For now, I'm going with a third party program that's installed on the Mac and PC that is inhibiting AB+

revelations
04-24-2017, 09:10 AM
Strange how the one mac isnt showing ads.

Seth1968
04-24-2017, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by revelations
Strange how the one mac isnt showing ads.

Ya, that's why I'm hoping church has a third party program installed on his Mac and PC that his wife doesn't.

EDIT: Wait a sec. Church, does your wife have her own Mac, or do you share one with different accounts? A better explanation of how many computers are in the household that are either showing the issue or not would be helpful.

Seth1968
04-24-2017, 09:46 AM
Here's a few other shot in the dark things to try:

1) Make sure your date and time are correct.

2) Click the AdBlock button and select Options. On the GENERAL tab, disable "Allow some non-intrusive advertising".

3) Clear FF's cache.

4) Remove (not disable) AB, restart the computer, then install AB from here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ and make sure its icon is red and not greyed out.

schurchill39
04-24-2017, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Seth1968
Those are good clues, but unfortunately just add more head scratching.

Based on the new info, we can rule out just about everything. It seems the only logical conclusion is you're cursed:)

Seriously though, do you run third party software that your wife doesn't run? More specifically, a program which may affect certain browser functions such as an antivirus or other type of security?

Also, it might be a good test to temporarily try Chrome with AB.

I think you're right, I may be cursed. I might have to make chrome my youtube browser.



Originally posted by revelations
I checked those videos, latest FF running ublock, no ads shown. You may have a browser or PC issue of some kind.


If you're running an antivirus programs, try disabling all their services temporarily and then run a standalone/onetime program called adware cleaner.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/adwcleaner/

We have anti virus on my work PC but I'm not running anything on my personal mac. The only thing thats consistent is my youtube account, the browser, ad block plus, and the videos I'm testing. On my wife's personal mac with FF, AB+ and those same videos she doesn't get ads. What the fuck...

schurchill39
04-24-2017, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Seth1968


Ya, that's why I'm hoping church has a third party program installed on his Mac and PC that his wife doesn't.

EDIT: Wait a sec. Church, does your wife have her own Mac, or do you share one with different accounts? A better explanation of how many computers are in the household that are either showing the issue or not would be helpful.

She runs a completely different machine. Same operating system though, and they are both mac book pros circa 2010-2011 ish. :dunno:

Seth1968
04-24-2017, 11:20 AM
So,

- Issue occurs on both your Mac and PC.

- Issue does not occur on your wife's Mac.

Got it.

To help nail it down, temporarily try Chrome to see if the ads appear, and try Windows in Safe Mode with networking. https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/12376/windows-10-start-your-pc-in-safe-mode

Other than that:

1) Make sure your date and time are correct.

2) Click the AdBlock button and select Options. On the GENERAL tab, disable "Allow some non-intrusive advertising".

3) Clear FF's cache.

4) Remove (not disable) AB, restart the computer, then install AB from here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fi...n/adblock-plus/ and make sure its icon is red and not greyed out.

One of those should get us where we need to be. If not, then ya, an exorcism is in order:)

schurchill39
04-24-2017, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Seth1968
So,

- Issue occurs on both your Mac and PC.

- Issue does not occur on your wife's Mac.

Got it.

To help nail it down, temporarily try Chrome to see if the ads appear, and try Windows in Safe Mode with networking. https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/12376/windows-10-start-your-pc-in-safe-mode

Other than that:

1) Make sure your date and time are correct.

2) Click the AdBlock button and select Options. On the GENERAL tab, disable "Allow some non-intrusive advertising".

3) Clear FF's cache.

4) Remove (not disable) AB, restart the computer, then install AB from here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fi...n/adblock-plus/ and make sure its icon is red and not greyed out.

One of those should get us where we need to be. If not, then ya, an exorcism is in order:)

-With chrome: no ab+ = ads. With ab+ I have no you tube ads but some banners (I can deal with that).

-Date and time are correct.

-Tried with allowing some non-intrusive ads and without allowing some non-intrusive ads. No difference

- Cleared cache, cookies, and history = no difference

- Removed ab+, restarted, reinstalled = no difference.

I ended up downloading AdBlocker for YouTube and right out of the box it didn't work in FF but with some tweaking I eventually got it working.

I cannot wrap my head around what is going on here.

revelations
04-24-2017, 01:54 PM
I would reset/remove all the browser addons entirely on both machines..... then try a different blocker like ublock.

Seth1968
04-24-2017, 01:59 PM
^ That was done on Page 1 :)

revelations
04-24-2017, 02:05 PM
I failed .... oh well .... time to reinstall Windows and OSX then ..... :rofl:

schurchill39
04-24-2017, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by revelations
I failed .... oh well .... time to reinstall Windows and OSX then ..... :rofl:

That and sacrifice a goat on all the machines I plan to watch you tube on. Do any of you IT gurus have the number of a local Shaman?

Seth1968
04-24-2017, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by schurchill39


Do any of you IT gurus have the number of a local Shaman?

PM Duaner:eek:

schurchill39
04-24-2017, 04:49 PM
AdBlocker for YouTube was short lived. About 10 videos in ads started coming back again. I give up.

Seth1968
04-24-2017, 05:01 PM
How about one last test?

Try Windows in Safe Mode with networking. https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca...pc-in-safe-mode

Darell_n
04-24-2017, 07:19 PM
Ghostery is the end all be all for blocking tracking websites and advertising. I highly recommend it.

schurchill39
04-26-2017, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Seth1968
How about one last test?

Try Windows in Safe Mode with networking. https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca...pc-in-safe-mode

Still got ads. At least this time it was for Gibsons whisky which, although its a terrible whisky, its better than the fucking wix.com ad that makes me want to smash everything in sight.



Originally posted by Darell_n
Ghostery is the end all be all for blocking tracking websites and advertising. I highly recommend it.

Nada. It didn't work by itself nor did it work in conjunction with ad block plus, or you tube ad blocker.

I'm really running out of options here. I'm going to make the awkward switch over to chrome (which I still don't like) but I am worried that these problems may follow me across there. I tried Chrome the other day when Seth was giving me tests to try and it seemed okay but Fire Fox seems okay some times too.

Seth1968
04-26-2017, 12:35 PM
The Chrome test will give valuable information.

If there are no ads with Chrome, then it means that something is causing AB to malfunction in FF. This would mean a third party program (unlikely given it occurs in Safe Mode), or a malfunction in FF itself. If the latter, then you would have to do a reset to FF, or better yet, uninstall and re-install it.

NOTE: Unlike other browsers, FF will remove your passwords when it's reset.

schurchill39
04-26-2017, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Seth1968
The Chrome test will give valuable information.

If there are no ads with Chrome, then it means that something is causing AB to malfunction in FF. This would mean a third party program (unlikely given it occurs in Safe Mode), or a malfunction in FF itself. If the latter, then you would have to do a reset to FF, or better yet, uninstall and re-install it.

NOTE: Unlike other browsers, FF will remove your passwords when it's reset.

Chrome, with ad block plus installed, gives me ads. Lately its the wix.com ad and its driving me crazy! What the hell is going on here.

Seth1968
04-26-2017, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by schurchill39


Chrome, with ad block plus installed, gives me ads. Lately its the wix.com ad and its driving me crazy! What the hell is going on here.

Even on the links you posted. If so...shit!

schurchill39
04-26-2017, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Seth1968


Even on the links you posted. If so...shit!

Maybe this is YouTube's way of telling me we need to take a break and see other websites

Seth1968
04-26-2017, 01:38 PM
Well I'm at a loss if Chrome shows ads.

It would be interesting to see the results of a Hitman scan though.

schurchill39
04-26-2017, 01:47 PM
We currently use CylancePROTECT which is a recent change from Kaspersky, However talking with some guys down in IT they run ABP and don't have the same issues I do.