6 speed manuals

[max_boost]

What's left out there?

Need/want a fun car but on a budget these days lol while everyone is moving on up with their AMG/M cars haha I think I would be quite content in a manual 3 door GTi for $380ish/month lease for 48.

Manual > DSG for cheaper maintenance, cheaper lease and more *involved driving experience* lol

[Disoblige]

FoRS, Golf R, CT-R

Maybe STi?

[jwslam]

M3/M4/M5

edit: I guess they dropped it on the M5

or y'know, Accord 6-6

[rage2]

I was looking at Dodge Vipers, seeing a lot of them lately, and the earlier ones (2nd gen) can be had in the low 30's. Would be a pretty fun car to beat on.

[Sonic]

370z... I'm biased though :D

Just get the enthusiasts base model, that's all you need.

[max_boost]

I think you guys missed the budget $400 payment part lol :rofl:

[ercchry]

Heloc payment<$400... e9x M3 :D

[flipstah]

Civic Hatchback. $400/mth.

Otherwise...


Originally posted by rage2
I was looking at Dodge Vipers, seeing a lot of them lately, and the earlier ones (2nd gen) can be had in the low 30's. Would be a pretty fun car to beat on.

[Crazyjoker77]

BRZ/86, mustang, camaro

[danno]

Miata?? Golf r is to much and the 6 spd sucks, needs aftermarket parts.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by danno
Miata?? Golf r is to much and the 6 spd sucks, needs aftermarket parts. Really 6 speed manual no good? I've had a GTi DSG, Diesel Auto and TSi Auto but considering manual just cuz cheaper cheaper but have never driven one. Last manual was the 6 speed from Honda which I thought was excellent.

[gpomp]

Fiesta ST. More fun than the GTI

[blitz]

Fiesta ST!

[realazy]

Civic Si

[Sugarphreak]

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[BavarianBeast]

Buy my supercharged M3!

650 hp, 6 speed..

We can work a payment schedule out... :burnout:

[eglove]

Fiesta ST!

[heavyD]

I personally liked the Focus ST 6-speed. I would imagine the 6-speed in the new Civic Si would be pretty sweet given Honda's expertise at making slick manual transmissions.

[got_mike33]

Gen 3 Mazda 3 with the 2.5L engine. Should be real cheap to get a 6 speed manual, won't be nearly as fun as the other cars mentioned though.

[flipstah]

Max_Boost mentions a budget

Sugarphreak with a Vantage V12 suggestion.

Good job, Beyond. :rofl:

[NoPulp]

Chevy sonic with a fart can.


I'm bias, but my vote goes to one of the 3 "responsibly priced" fords.

[ExtremeSi]

If the BMW M2 is too much you could always check out a M240i or even a 230i manual. Might be closer to your budget and offer lots of fun. I took the M240i for a drive and was very impressed.

[Disoblige]

On a sidenote, don't get a FoRS. We like to stay rare :P

:D

[Hallowed_point]

The choice is obvious maxboost.

http://www.car-revs-daily.com/2014/07/07/2014-honda-accord-coupe-v6-is-family-sports-coupe-of-the-year/

[riander5]

Originally posted by ExtremeSi
If the BMW M2 is too much you could always check out a M240i or even a 230i manual. Might be closer to your budget and offer lots of fun. I took the M240i for a drive and was very impressed.

Manual??

[ExtremeSi]

Originally posted by riander5


Manual??

Yes it was a 6-speed manual. When I go to BMW.ca it lists the only options as Automatics for some reason but I can assure you that the 2-series are available in manual having now driven one.

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by riander5
Manual?? You can get those with a 6 speed.

[dtrieu]

3 door base GTI for sure. I'll let ya beat on mine if you wanna try.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by max_boost
What's left out there?

Need/want a fun car but on a budget these days lol while everyone is moving on up with their AMG/M cars haha I think I would be quite content in a manual 3 door GTi for $380ish/month lease for 48.

Manual &gt; DSG for cheaper maintenance, cheaper lease and more *involved driving experience* lol

If you want a 3 door GTI better get one now. There are is no 3 door after 2017, however there will be a non autobahn base 5 door for 2018.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Aleks


If you want a 3 door GTI better gone one now. There are is no 3 door after 2017, however there will be a non autobahn base 5 door for 2018. Oh man good to know. talking to redlyne_mr2 about options. have always loved the 3door golf even though my past 3 golfs have all been 5 doors lol

[Rocket1k78]

Originally posted by flipstah
Max_Boost mentions a budget

Sugarphreak with a Vantage V12 suggestion.

Good job, Beyond. :rofl:

This is Beyond afterall, Im actually surprised it made it that far before someone posted something completely out of whack.

[G-ZUS]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point
The choice is obvious maxboost.

http://www.car-revs-daily.com/2014/07/07/2014-honda-accord-coupe-v6-is-family-sports-coupe-of-the-year/ (http://)

linky no worky

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point
The choice is obvious maxboost.

http://www.car-revs-daily.com/2014/07/07/2014-honda-accord-coupe-v6-is-family-sports-coupe-of-the-year/ (http://) The choice is a blank page? :dunno:

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

I got a base WRX for close to that payment and I'm really happy with it.

[Maxt]

Gerry Wood still has some Vipers for sale....

[EF9 Sedan]

Originally posted by jwslam
M3/M4/M5

edit: I guess they dropped it on the M5

or y'know, Accord 6-6

Lol sounds like there's a hidden message there. What's so special about the accord?

[J-hop]

Originally posted by EF9 Sedan


Lol sounds like there's a hidden message there. What's so special about the accord?

**goes and gets popcorn

[jwslam]

Originally posted by EF9 Sedan
Lol sounds like there's a hidden message there. What's so special about the accord?
http://forums.beyond.ca/st2/who-would-win-castrol/showthread.php?s=&threadid=403304&perpage=40&highlight=&pagenumber=1

[88CRX]

Get a type R Sam!

Unleash your inner Honda ricer haha.

[relyt92]

Base 370Z can be leased for $204 a month according to Nissan.ca. Otherwise Fiesta ST would be a ton of fun for the money. Both well in budget.

[npham]

Just get the TT RS you have looking at/talking about.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Originally posted by relyt92
Base 370Z can be leased for $204 a month according to Nissan.ca. Otherwise Fiesta ST would be a ton of fun for the money. Both well in budget.

$204 semi monthly.

[Sugarphreak]

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[relyt92]

Originally posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo


$204 semi monthly. Well then, reading > me. Thought it seemed cheap but didn't even realize.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Under 300K... that is walking around money for MaxBoost! :D

So only double the budget...












... as minimum heloc (interest only) payments :rofl:

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by npham
Just get the TT RS you have looking at/talking about.

Totally. I think that car makes the most sense given what you've owned in the past. :thumbsup:

[flipstah]

They have surprisingly roomy trunks. Perfect for delivery runs!

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by flipstah
They have surprisingly roomy trunks. Perfect for delivery runs!

Exactly.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Sonic
370z... I'm biased though :D

Just get the enthusiasts base model, that's all you need.

This right here. For a GT/daily driver, nothing can beat it for the money.

Seriously, 370hp, rwd, good handling, manual transmission for $30k is amazing.

GTi is not even in the same league of fun.

[relyt92]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


This right here. For a GT/daily driver, nothing can beat it for the money.

Seriously, 370hp, rwd, good handling, manual transmission for $30k is amazing.

GTi is not even in the same league of fun. 332hp, not 370 but it's still a solid amount for 30k brand new.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Aleks]

Does a GTI cost more than a GTi? :burnout:

[flipstah]

SUGARPHREAK IS A HATER! TTRS 4 LYFE

[jwslam]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Wait... I thought Boost was a guy? O
But TT is on his radar

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/403467/boy-cars-are-quick/

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


The GTi is the better car on every level in the real world, and more fun to drive on top of that. It wouldn't even be a question if I was offered both, I'd rather have the GTi


Yea, but you think a Fiesta ST is fun to daily, sooooo.... :rofl:

[heavyD]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


Yea, but you think a Fiesta ST is fun to daily, sooooo.... :rofl:

He's right though. If everyone could only drive one car that is so well rounded it could make nearly everyone happy it would be the GTI. It's the Swiss army knife if automobiles.

[Sugarphreak]

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[gpomp]

^A Camero won so the entire test is invalid :poosie:

[Sugarphreak]

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[Xtrema]

124 Abarth

Lease at $472/month at 0% for 48 months.

Going slow fast.

Not much is going to beat GTi for under $400/month. Even the new Civic Si is mid 400s.

[flipstah]

Originally posted by Xtrema
124 Abarth

Lease at $472/month at 0% for 48 months.

Going slow fast.

Not much is going to beat GTi for under $400/month.

Isn't this an MX5 but wearing an Italian suit? :love:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by flipstah


Isn't this an MX5 but wearing an Italian suit? :love:

English roadster built by Japanese, styled by Italian, financed by Americans (0% and $2500 off).

It's not as good or fun as MX5 because turbo lag of the 1.4L Multiair and last gen shifter. But I think it looks better than MX5 and it's only a ECU tune away from close to 200HP. And MX5 with similar spec will be at least $200/mth more.

[riander5]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Apparently the new LT1 is something else

I saw a review where they mentioned that the Bugatti Veyron famously went overkill with 10 inter-coolers... and the new LT1 has 11.

Oh, and Max will like this... it comes with a short shifting 6 speed manual if you so desire.

Too bad it is a GM... and therefore no doubt riddled with problems

I thought the new LT1 would be awesome... but then I beat a new corvette in my lightly modded 5.0 mustang with a passenger and loads of shit in the back. Maybe mods open them up or something :dunno:

[flipstah]

Originally posted by Xtrema


English roadster built by Japanese, styled by Italian, financed by Americans (0% and $2500 off).

It's not as good or fun as MX5 because turbo lag of the 1.4L Multiair and last gen shifter. But I think it looks better than MX5 and it's only a ECU tune away from close to 200HP. And MX5 with similar spec will be at least $200/mth more.

Sounds awesome! :love:

[Sugarphreak]

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[gpomp]

Originally posted by Aleks
Does a GTI cost more than a GTi? :burnout: Yes, but not as much as a WRx or AMg

[flipstah]

Originally posted by gpomp
Yes, but not as much as a WRx or AMg

You need a doctor's note for one of them.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by heavyD


He's right though. If everyone could only drive one car that is so well rounded it could make nearly everyone happy it would be the GTI. It's the Swiss army knife if automobiles.

I didn't take this thread in the context of buying the minivan of hatchbacks, good at all things great at none. Frig you guys are all old. :rofl:


Originally posted by Sugarphreak

Um yeah... so but does Motortrend
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2014-motor-trends-best-drivers-car/

I didn't realize people still read motortrend... what those poofters think of cars is (and has been for a long time) irrelevant to me :devil:

I have nothing against the FiST, was going to buy one myself a couple of years ago. Then I realized that spending $25+k on a fwd econobox makes no sense unless you are the kind of human that is ok with having a shriveled soul :rofl:

[mzdspd]

Elantra Sport with a 6 speed manual?

I guess it depends what you are using this car for.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by flipstah


Sounds awesome! :love:

Till you remember you have to take it to Chrysler for warranty work

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by ercchry


Till you remember you have to take it to Chrysler for warranty work

That's the only problem I see as well. And the only Fiat outfit is Eastside Dodge in Marlborough.

If Big 4 has a Fiat franchise, I would definitely pick one of these up.

[Sugarphreak]

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[killramos]

It's great to have Phreak make fun of someone else's car for a change :rofl:

[flipstah]

Sugarphreak is just bitter because the last new car he drove was a Model T.

[90_Shelby]

Originally posted by npham
Just get the TT RS you have looking at/talking about.

This. Took the Vagon out for a rip with my buddies TTRS last night. They go very good! :thumbsup:

[roll_over]

http://www.canadianautoreview.ca/reviews/2017-jaguar-f-type-manual.html

[heavyD]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1

I didn't take this thread in the context of buying the minivan of hatchbacks, good at all things great at none. Frig you guys are all old. :rofl:


Hey sport you are out of your element in this thread commenting on anything seeing you drive a 20 year old beater that would get smoked on a track by a new Civic sport hatch. If old means I can actually buy nice cars rather than drive junk than yes I am old.:)

[Sugarphreak]

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[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Soul shriveling? As opposed to driving a 1995 WRX STi?


Inorite? 300hp, great handling, no nannies/safety gear, great sound, perfect for year round daily driving. And about 75% cheaper than a FiST. Man, you are doing a good job of making your car look like its for women :poosie:

I haven't had that STi for years though. Now I just daily big dumb 'merican pickups :( Soul shriveled indeed :cry:

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
I was doing some reading up on the new M240i

Apparently it is nearly as good as the M2, and while the M2 is fractionally faster in a 0-60 sprint, the M240i will actually catch up and pass it shortly after.

Plus you know... 20K cheaper

There is an X-drive model as well with an even quicker 0-60 too, but only in auto.

Only thing is, then you'd have to live in fake-M hell with the rest of the wannabes

I believe adding X-drive to these cars somewhat neuters the handling ability as it doesn't allow for the sport suspension you can get on RWD version.

[riander5]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Sorry, my mistake... I was talking about the new Camero ZL1, not the LT1 Vette

http://www.chevrolet.ca/camaro-zl1.html#

From what I've been reading, it can beat a GT350 Mustang around a track, without all of the overheating issues... and apparently it is very comfortable and fun to drive on backroads as well. It was also putting down better track times than the Grand Sport.

Ah yea I believe it. Chevy has been making some insane handling cars these days, and despite how awesome the GT350's engine is technically, putting a supercharged beast under the hood will crush it in a straight line as well

[Sugarphreak]

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[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Oh crap... you are driving a pickup? I am sorry, I didn't know.... I feel awful. I shouldn't poke fun of you for your automotive potato-ism


I only play a racecar driver on TV :cry:

:rofl:

[TurboMedic]

Originally posted by rage2
I was looking at Dodge Vipers, seeing a lot of them lately, and the earlier ones (2nd gen) can be had in the low 30's. Would be a pretty fun car to beat on.

I think he wanted to finance, can you even finance an old ass car like that anymore at a decent rate? I would think that wouldn't be worth it unless you were paying cash

[J-hop]

Late in the thread but is there any reason it has to be a 6? I know I shouldnt compare my cars as they are so different but my 6 spd GLI Jetta is annoying to drive around town. Always rowing. Love my 5spd mustang though, when it was stock it was roughly the same hp as the Jetta, more torque obviously but I feel like I shift 10x more in the Jetta in traffic

[max_boost]

If you want a 3 door GTI better get one now. There are is no 3 door after 2017, however there will be a non autobahn base 5 door for 2018.

After talking to redlyne and driving around in MY16 some more, I think I'll wait until next year for the 5 door non autobahn. Hopefully pricing will be similar to the current 3 door. I can live without the kessy, bi-xenon, fender, nav, sunroof etc. (which is what I have on my current comfortline) but the DSG on second thought is a must haha

As usual always give up something to get something or just pay for the top of the line package lol

[Xtrema]

but the DSG on second thought is a must haha

Take into account that the $1000 fluid change every 50k for DSG. You may have to do one before lease return depends on how long you keep it.

[max_boost]

Take into account that the $1000 fluid change every 50k for DSG. You may have to do one before lease return depends on how long you keep it.

Is that how much it is now? I remember it being about $550ish 3-4 years ago on my 10GTi. I think going back to manual would be fun for a bit and then I would hate it haha

Have looked at a lot of cars over the past week and end of the day, the budget baller jack of all trades leads to the GTi. So many awesome cars coming out but no money so fml lol

[colinxx235]

I was doing some reading up on the new M240i

Apparently it is nearly as good as the M2, and while the M2 is fractionally faster in a 0-60 sprint, the M240i will actually catch up and pass it shortly after.

Plus you know... 20K cheaper

There is an X-drive model as well with an even quicker 0-60 too, but only in auto.

Only thing is, then you'd have to live in fake-M hell with the rest of the wannabes

You could always just go take the fake M badge off the car if it makes you feel better?? :dunno:
The amount of people in aspen who went and bought an M badge to throw on their X5s, 535s etc is hilarious and so pathetic, those are the worst kind. At least technically those 2 series come with it already on... just shouldn't :poosie:

[Aleks]

Is that how much it is now? I remember it being about $550ish 3-4 years ago on my 10GTi. I think going back to manual would be fun for a bit and then I would hate it haha

Have looked at a lot of cars over the past week and end of the day, the budget baller jack of all trades leads to the GTi. So many awesome cars coming out but no money so fml lol

Maybe it's that much at Audi, it's $299 at VW, every 60k KMS