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RickDaTuner
06-13-2017, 07:04 PM
I recently purchased a cargo trailer. It's a 6x10 unit with a ramp door.

It's oddly very tall though, I was told by the previous owner that the axle was flipped and it raises it up but when looking underneath I can see that it has both leaf spring suspension and a torsion spring axle setup.

My question being if this is common? Or has someone engaged in some fuckery here? I'll try and post a pic in a bit here.

Also the VIn seems to have rubbed off, wondering if anyone knows if there is another location for a vin to be, I contacted a trailer vendor and they said that's hidden vin can sometimes be found underneath near the axle, but when I took a look there was nothing there.

I'd really like to avoid paying ICBC to come certify the trailer for me if at all possible.

Thanks for the help!

spike98
06-13-2017, 08:12 PM
You sir have a stolen trailer.

btimbit
06-13-2017, 08:39 PM
Flipping the axles/leafs is pretty common, we do it to about half of our trailers. Raises the centre of gravity too though so you have to be more careful with wind gusts and sway, but being a 6x10 I wouldn't be too concerned.

The VIN thing though.... Yeah, that's a little suspicious. If it's over 15 years old it would just be on a little plaque or sticker on the side of the trailer, but newer there should be multiple plaques I on the trailer, or it could even be stamped in a few places like near the tongue, axles or even on the frame somewhere. Good luck

RickDaTuner
06-13-2017, 08:51 PM
Geesus, the trailers' not stolen. I bought it from a person who had registration for it from Sask. where you can register trailers as homebuilt without a vin.

The vin rubbed through on the vin plate from the trailer wiring, I just want verify it before I got register it.

btimbit
06-13-2017, 09:04 PM
In that case just look around underneath. Usually it's in a few places

zieg
06-13-2017, 10:14 PM
I can't imagine why you would put a torsion axle on a set of leaf springs though. That's messed up.

AndyL
06-13-2017, 10:38 PM
I've seen the mixed torsion/leaf setup before. Saves that funky beam tandem leaf scenario. Supposed to ride better

Rear was leafs, front torsion.

But yeah, obscured vin = pretty much guarantee of being stolen.

RickDaTuner
06-14-2017, 05:49 AM
In that case just look around underneath. Usually it's in a few places

Will have another look around, its fairly full of dirt and debris down there, so ill have to scrape the frame with a wire brush.


I can't imagine why you would put a torsion axle on a set of leaf springs though. That's messed up.

Yeah, thats what I was thinking too. just looks odd.


I've seen the mixed torsion/leaf setup before. Saves that funky beam tandem leaf scenario. Supposed to ride better

Rear was leafs, front torsion.

But yeah, obscured vin = pretty much guarantee of being stolen.

This trailer is just a single beam, and it looks like a leaf spring stacked on a torsion axle, its just looks odd. It may be just me though it could just be a solid axle.


Well you guys have gone and done it, now I'm super paranoid and anxious to Find the VIN to make sure it is a legit trailer. I'd be really heart broken to find out it is stolen, and have to take it to my local Police station, loosing what I've paid for it.
Let's hope not.

HiTempguy1
06-14-2017, 11:00 AM
I think everyone is overreacting.

I've owned 5 trailers now, 4 of them the VIN has been impossible to find/rubbed off/worn off. Lots of trailers (especially out of the USA) don't have the VIN stamped anywhere, its simply on a sticky decal that is usually located in a place that eventually gets blasted off by debris or peels off over the years.

Do you have any previous paperwork with the VIN on it? Should be good enough.

Tik-Tok
06-14-2017, 11:22 AM
Not that I'm one for keeping stolen goods, but if it is, and there's no legitimate VIN to read, then what are the cops going to do with it?

spike98
06-14-2017, 12:02 PM
I think everyone is overreacting.

I've owned 5 trailers now, 4 of them the VIN has been impossible to find/rubbed off/worn off. Lots of trailers (especially out of the USA) don't have the VIN stamped anywhere, its simply on a sticky decal that is usually located in a place that eventually gets blasted off by debris or peels off over the years.

Do you have any previous paperwork with the VIN on it? Should be good enough.

Around these parts, there is a high likelihood its stolen. Thinking otherwise is ignorant. However....


Not that I'm one for keeping stolen goods, but if it is, and there's no legitimate VIN to read, then what are the cops going to do with it?

I wouldn't stress it too much for this reason. Honestly unless its some super unique trailer and someone lays claim to it, the RCMP would likely hold it for a while then auction it off/destroy it. I wouldn't stress it too much.

That being said, you do need some form of registration to go with a plate and if you dont have that...id be super concerned.

RickDaTuner
06-14-2017, 12:57 PM
Thanks all for the responses and the stress... lol

I found the VIN under the trailer on the frame stamped in. I cross referenced with CPIC, and it came up with no result.

Also the rear axle is a leaf spring, the axle bar just has a drop flange that looks like a torsion axle, and it has just been flipped. I'll be flipping it back over to it regular ride height when it stops raining.


Cheers Beyond.

btimbit
06-14-2017, 05:45 PM
I love a happy ending. Glad it worked out