So... nobody excited for the OnePlus 5??

[HiTempguy1]

It's a nice step up from the OnePlus 3T for only an extra $50. Considering some of the new BYOP plans, I am definitely considering one as I am sick of my Nexus 5X.

Full specs:

1080p screen
Snapdragon 835
Adreno 540
6gb or 8gb of ram
Android Nougat

Tech Altar had a rather scathing review of OnePlus and the 5 stating its nothing revolutionary and the pricing isn't that great. But for $650 for a full on flagship phone compared to say $900 for a frieking Google Pixel, I think the choice is clear :dunno: If you can handle not having the latest OS updates, this phone seems perfect for cheap asses like myself.

Thoughts?

[killramos]

I don't really get "excited" for cell phones

Necessary evil, replace when they get too slow to be annoying or die after a couple hours

[riced]

I was totally excited for it until the unveil...
For the price - absolutely, you can't go wrong. It's just missing some things that seem to make sense to have...
- Waterproof
- Pressure-sensitive screen
- Image stabilization
- Maybe a retina scanner (S8)

I was hoping to see what the unicorn colour was all about but nothing...

But if you don't care for any of that, it's not terrible. I think I over-hyped myself... Now I wait to see what the new iPhone has to offer.

[dj_rice]

I was going to go that route then I heard they will no longer provide updates/support for the One Plus 2 which came out in Aug 2015. So that made me kinda iffy. So Its a toss up now between HTC 10, Samsung Galaxy S8

[rx7boi]

I purchased the slightly older Samsung S7 for $450 BNIB.

Coming from a Note 3, it was a worthwhile upgrade!

I recently saw someone in the Marketplace selling a Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro and read up on it. Good specs and price, might get one of those for my GF.

[Xtrema]

I just got mine yesterday. Been used just short of 24hrs.

Nothing to get excited about.

The Good:
- 8GB of RAM, no app ever close or need to be restarted now
- Fast storage UFS 2.1, 700MB/s
- Ordered on Tuesday, arrived on Thursday while most areas in world still waiting for theirs. Official launch is next week but I guess I got lucky.
- Camera is fast, 12-16 fps on burst, full manual controls, zoom like all dual lens systems
- Oxygen OS cleaned up a bit, quite good stock experience, no junk.
- Gesture still cool and now expanded since I last had a OnePlus
- Dual Sim

The indifferent:
- Screen is carry over from 3T with just a color tune.
- 835 being 835, just as smooth as S8.
- Audio is ok.
- No MicroSD slot but offer 128GB storage.

The bad:
- Camera sucks with low light
- Camera isn't true optical zoom past 1.6x
- No OIS and no EIS either when taking video in 4K.
- Bokeh is alright but too gimmicky
- Generic phone design with big chin. Looks old in the new 18:9 all screen era.
- Touch screen tracking isn't perfect, mostly felt playing Pokemon.
- Automatic network search is shit on Freedom, it default to lower speed HPSA+ network. Have to manually lock it to LTE.
- Lies and Lies, caught cheated on benchmark, and the zoom lens isn't really 2x optical.

Verdict:

At $719 for 8GB/128GB model, it is $300 cheaper than S8 and $80 cheaper than G6 and you do get more for the $. If you think you can get away with 64GB, $649 6GB model is a even better deal.

The key is how often security patches is sent out. 3/3T seems to be quarterly which is better than anything from Samsung and LG. But it's not as smoking hot deal as previous OnePlus models. And if you don't care about patches, I'm sure ZTE, Huawei and Xiaomi will have sub $600 models with 835 chipset soon.

I think Oneplus now has a brand crisis and we will seen how soon they will have to drop the Never Settle, Flagship Killer motto. Because they have settled (started to cut corner) and they ain't killing any flagships out there.

And if DJI app didn't screw up under the 18:9 resolution of S8 and G6, I would have never jump to OP5 this early since this is the only normal resolution, 835 + Band 66 supported phone out there.

[Hero_X]

I"m so shocked with how much hype this phone had... But as always Oneplus disappointed.

The lack of QHD screen and expandable storage are definite deal killers.. but worst of all is that they promoted the camera so much and it doesn't have OIS.

Yes the processor and ram are good but at the end of the day, the phone isn't so cheap for a 1080p screen.

The ZTE axon 7 was ~ $470 and it had QHD screen.. lol. Oh and it was launched much before the Oneplus 5.

[Xtrema]

I"m so shocked with how much hype this phone had... But as always Oneplus disappointed.

The lack of QHD screen and expandable storage are definite deal killers.. but worst of all is that they promoted the camera so much and it doesn't have OIS.

Yes the processor and ram are good but at the end of the day, the phone isn't so cheap for a 1080p screen.

The ZTE axon 7 was ~ $470 and it had QHD screen.. lol. Oh and it was launched much before the Oneplus 5.

Yeah, OP, if price is your goal, you can't beat Axon 7. Newegg have it on sale some time at $470 or $500 with freebies. Best budget phone right now.

[Mitsu3000gt]

It's a fairly weak phone IMHO, not terrible for the price, but it's getting too close to the flagship pricing for what it offers. They cheated in benchmarks once again, and also outright lied (again) about camera capability, but in the end the performance is predictable anyways because it has off-the-shelf internals for the most part.

The camera is not very good compared to even 1-2 year old flagships, no weather sealing,weak screen, no expandable memory, etc. Their "flagship killer" motto also seems to rub a lot of people the wrong way when they release their phones which are always far from it and way over-hyped, and they try to generate sales based on outright lies. They make sure to hit a few key specs for advertising purposes and then start cutting the corners.

If you want a "bargain" phone with good specs and don't care about the things the OnePlus is missing, I would wait for the other players like ZTE to release similar or better phones for cheaper or buy a few month old flagship from a major brand.

[HiTempguy1]

But it's not as smoking hot deal as previous OnePlus models. And if you don't care about patches, I'm sure ZTE, Huawei and Xiaomi will have sub $600 models with 835 chipset soon.

I think Oneplus now has a brand crisis and we will seen how soon they will have to drop the Never Settle, Flagship Killer motto. Because they have settled (started to cut corner) and they ain't killing any flagships out there.

And if DJI app didn't screw up under the 18:9 resolution of S8 and G6, I would have never jump to OP5 this early since this is the only normal resolution, 835 + Band 66 supported phone out there.

I completely disagree that its not a smoking deal. You need to compare apples to apples, which you are not remotely doing.

G6 is $840, has less internal memory, uses snapdragon 821. So for $200 less, you get a superior phone. That's an insane difference in costs considering the margins. When people say "flagship killer", I don't think they mean it BEATS flagships. They mean on an absolute performance vs price scale, there is superior value here. Is it the best? No. But I personally feel that a lot of your points are nitpicky.

I agree that no phone is worth getting excited over as I am not 16 anymore Killramos, poor choice of wording maybe, but as I am in need of a new phone, this seems like a good way to go.




The ZTE axon 7 was ~ $470 and it had QHD screen.. lol. Oh and it was launched much before the Oneplus 5.

The ZTE axon 7 is inferior in multiple aspects. Do you really notice screen resolution? I've never once gone "man, my phones screen resolution is bumming me out" but to each their own. It would be like saying a TV sucks with only 1080p vs 4k below 60", even if it had superior display characteristics everywhere else.

And finally, I don't think things like expandable memory are something to use as a comparative measure. Some phones have that, some don't. Phones with certain items (like expandable memory) target specific customers and were never the target audience to begin with. Its like myself and Iphones, I'll never use another one, so why would Apple cater the phone to me?

The gripes about the camera are warranted, but I'm not an instafag. I take tons of pictures (usually of cars) and then post them. They look good enough 99% of the time regardless of what phone you are using :dunno: What I am getting from the comments so far is that maybe for power users, the phone is not ideal. But that's why flagship phones for $900 are available I'd think.

Edit-


If you want a "bargain" phone with good specs and don't care about the things the OnePlus is missing, I would wait for the other players like ZTE to release similar or better phones for cheaper or buy a few month old flagship from a major brand.

I don't get this. No other phone manufacturer has done this, at lower prices. Please provide examples, otherwise, you aren't comparing apples to apples.

[D'z Nutz]

I was going to go that route then I heard they will no longer provide updates/support for the One Plus 2 which came out in Aug 2015. So that made me kinda iffy. So Its a toss up now between HTC 10, Samsung Galaxy S8

I don't see how this should be a deciding factor. ALL manufacturers stop providing updates and support for old devices, including Google. Do you expect companies to keep spending R&D money on maintaining old devices when most people just keep them around for a year or two at the most?

[jacky4566]

Phones are not exciting to me anymore. It works and runs all my apps? What else is new these days?

Gone are the revolutions of Touch screens, built in speakers, or multiple cameras. Its all the same for the past 5 years just slightly faster or with more memory. :dunno:
All i want is 10 days battery life now.

Ill leave you guys to circle jerk over the specs and just replace mine when money warrants.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Phones are not exciting to me anymore. It works and runs all my apps? What else is new these days?

Gone are the revolutions of Touch screens, built in speakers, or multiple cameras. Its all the same for the past 5 years just slightly faster or with more memory. :dunno:
All i want is 10 days battery life now.

Ill leave you guys to circle jerk over the specs and just replace mine when money warrants.

As I've said many times before, the only areas of innovation these days are really with the camera, design, screen, unlocking methods, waterproofing, etc. Phones have been fast enough for all but power users for a year or two now. If you don't need those things to enhance your experience (or don't care) then good for you, it will be cheaper haha. 5 years though? That's a bit much. Screens and cameras especially as well as general device performance have made pretty enormous strides in that time, both with software and hardware. If you don't care, that's fine but it doesn't take away the fact. 5 years ago were the days of the Galaxy S3, Nexus 4, iPhone 5, etc. Those phones would be frustratingly slow to use these days outside of basic tasks, and the cameras were pretty average. If all you want is week+ battery life, you should use a flip phone. Try comparing an iPhone 5 to iPhone 7 (or 8 in 2 months) or Galaxy S3 to S8 and tell yourself they are the same, just 'slightly' faster :) I'm not sure too many people would agree.

[Xtrema]

I completely disagree that its not a smoking deal. You need to compare apples to apples, which you are not remotely doing.


1st of all, I could care less about the chipset. Each year there is the defacto flagship chipset. 835 is 2017, as 820/21 is 2016 and 810/808 for 2015 and so on. It doesn't differ by much and much like PC, the % of improvement is less and less every year (except 810/808, those are great hand warmer in winter but horrible in summer heat)

G6 drop in early got a last year chip. That's why it is selling itself at $200 less than Samsung S8. And given what Samsung S8 offers, there is really no reason to get a G6 unless you want to be different. The real fight is S8 vs OP5.

And for $300 difference between these two (even tho Samsung is throwing in a BT speaker and there are trade-in and carrier deals attached to them to make them even cheaper). Samsung got better screen, camera, but less storage. So it's not a whole lot of money for these factors alone.

After all I drop $750 on an OP5 because for what I care about, frequent security patches (fingerscrossed), 16:9 aspect ratio, OLED screen, band 66 LTE, clean OS, OP5 hit all the check marks and I need one right now and it's going to be my defacto drone controller this summer.

But QHD would be nice for VR (which my BB Priv still kinda good for).

In this market, OP5 is a good enough phone at a good enough price. It's not the best at everything, it's not priced like the best. And I'm ok with that. But remember at a time you could have the best spec for $350? That's how OnePlus started and how it got its fans.

[Kardon]

Now that the s8 has been out for a few months there are many deals out there. I think most carriers are offering about $200 off (with a plan) so in that case it's only $150 more than the OP5 and you're getting a much better screen, better camera, smaller device, SD card support, decent earbuds and local support. They're doing a crazy deal in the states right now with a trade in program, hopefully Canada gets something similar in the future for those who are looking to purchase outright.

I was a big fan of my OPO, CyanogenMod was so quick compared to the crap Samsung puts on their devices, but at the end of the day the phone was just too big with a case on it, and support from OnePlus at the time was brutal.

[My_name_is_Rob]

I was intrigued by it, but I just can't settle for a phone that isn't at least water resistant. It's just too convenient to be able to wash it off when I need to. Therefore I shall wait until the S7 comes down to a price that I am willing to pay.

[eblend]

Got mine yesterday. Upgraded from a Note 3 so the speed difference alone was great for me. Anything else out now, or coming soon, is about $1000+ outright, so it made sense for me. Hopefully it lasts as long as my note 3 has, which is still kicking, just figured it was a time for an upgrade. Impulse purchase really.

So far I am super pleased with mine. I could never tell a difference between a 1080p vs 4k screen, so makes no difference to me, plus probably get better battery life with the lower spec screen. The fingerprint scanner is instant, it's amazing, given that I use an iPhone 6 for work. So far it does everything for me that I could possibly need, and supports like every single network band out there, so great for travelling, which I do often.

For anyone interested, if you use this referral link you get $30 off accessories, link (https://oneplus.net/ca_en/invite#VSDQ6N6I60AAK8T)

[SportEL]

I've had the OP1, OP2, and now the OP5. I like this phone a lot more than the OP2. It's noticeably lighter, the design is nicer, and I like that the fingerprint sensor is not as indented, and it's a lot faster than the OP2. I have no clue why so many Manufactuers are putting their scanner on the back. The front makes sense to me as I can have it on the table and unlock it without picking up the phone. I hope they never change this. The camera is better, and they've expanded the off-screen gesture options by adding more possibilities. The Dash Charge technology is a lot faster with charging than my OP2, supposedly faster than other manufacturers, and doesn't heat up and slow down the phone while charging because the heat is regulated in the Charger.

Do any people actually notice a difference between QHD screen and 1080p. I doubt most wouldn't notice. The water resistance doesn't matter to me, as there's not much instances my phone would even get wet. The main problem though is the LTE is not working properly on Freedom. It doesn't automatically lock onto LTE, or even when I manually try to, most times it doesn't either. This is a Dealbreaker! It does seem that from what Xtrema has said in another thread, that it's Freedom's fault. I hope they fix this. Otherwise, I don't know if I'd want to keep the phone. 15 day return policy right?

[C4S]

It is nice, and still good value, I have been on and off using couple 1+ for last few years ... (still using the 1+X, IMO one of the best looking phone in the market) but at $650 ..and it still look like an iphone, boring looking, so I probably pass on the 1+5 this time ..

[bjstare]

I don't think it's a flagship killer, per say, but I'd definitely be buying one had I not bought a 3T at the beginning of the year. I had a OPO before that, which I was a little disappointed with in terms of software/OS. I'm very happy with the 3T though.

Thing is, I can't justify nearly $1k for an appliance that I'm going to drop/break/abuse and replace in a year or two, especially when I don't really appreciate the incremental difference from a OnePlus phone to an actual flagship. I also don't want to go all the way down to a ZTE or similar phone, as I'm skeptical that the OS won't be all that fantastic, updates will be infrequent, etc.

[OTown]

Its nice. I just dont think its worth the jump from my OnePlus3. Though if I lose/break this 3 then ill def stick with OnePlus and head that way.

[TurboMedic]

I'll throw another recommendation in for the Axon 7. Its been an amazing phone, one of my favorites. I also paid $400 so can't go wrong. Don't see much that this phone offers that I don't get now

[sneek]

[QUOTE=HiTempguy1;4666532]It's a nice step up from the OnePlus 3T for only an extra $50. Considering some of the new BYOP plans, I am definitely considering one as I am sick of my Nexus 5X.

/QUOTE]

:werd: I got a 128 gig model to replace my awful Nexus 5X. I was really happy with my Oneplus One but dropped it travelling and had to order the Nexus 5X. The OP5 is a fast phone with plenty of storage. Nothing too ground breaking other than the insane amount of ram. It is a good phone that I hope will last 24+ months.

[Xtrema]

Do any people actually notice a difference between QHD screen and 1080p. I doubt most wouldn't notice. The water resistance doesn't matter to me, as there's not much instances my phone would even get wet. The main problem though is the LTE is not working properly on Freedom. It doesn't automatically lock onto LTE, or even when I manually try to, most times it doesn't either. This is a Dealbreaker! It does seem that from what Xtrema has said in another thread, that it's Freedom's fault. I hope they fix this. Otherwise, I don't know if I'd want to keep the phone. 15 day return policy right?

I did a QHD vs 1080p AMOLED vs AMOLED comparison. You can't tell the difference until you strap on VR headset.

As day 5 on this phone on Freedom, I have accepted my fate for now. Wherever this is good LTE signal, it locks on tight. Wherever there is spotty coverage, you will be switched back to HSPA+ or 3G and stay there until you manually flips it back. This happens after each call/text as well.

If you are on 3G or H+, you are on the old network. 4G is the new LTE network. So that different than some other other phones with shows LTE instead of 4G. Or some other phone that shows 4G when you are on H+.

LTE speed is a plus with Pokemon, especially with the new raid battles.


Now there are confirmed issues with Wifi on OP5, which may also impact hotspots:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/6jlhw3/oneplus_ama_oneplus_5_edition/djf6jvj/?st=j4eg25ev&sh=eb756bf9

[Mitsu3000gt]

Do any people actually notice a difference between QHD screen and 1080p.

I find it's easy to see the difference at normal usage viewing distances, especially with small text and even more so with VR. You can't see any aliasing and everything just looks so perfect and smooth. Beyond 1440P, fewer people would see a difference, but you would for VR since you can already see pixels pretty easily at 1440P with VR. Everyone is different though. If you can't see a difference, don't pay for it and enjoy the battery life advantages of 1080P.

[TurboMedic]

I find it's easy to see the difference at normal usage viewing distances, especially with small text and even more so with VR. You can't see any aliasing and everything just looks so perfect and smooth. Beyond 1440P, fewer people would see a difference, but you would for VR since you can already see pixels pretty easily at 1440P with VR. Everyone is different though. If you can't see a difference, don't pay for it and enjoy the battery life advantages of 1080P.

I agree, I see it every time I fire up my Asus phone for old times sake and look at it next to my Axon. Its not eve close. Watching video on it is just amazing

[Xtrema]

I agree, I see it every time I fire up my Asus phone for old times sake and look at it next to my Axon. Its not eve close. Watching video on it is just amazing

Edit: 0624 patch is out. Get it, it fixes my Bluetooth issue.

You could be comparing AMOLED to LCD. AMOLED to AMOLED, the difference isn't as obvious.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Anyone have the weird scrolling issue? Some are more sensitive to it than others. Looks like displays are installed upside down and the phone's code is set to rotate everything 180 degrees which seems a bit odd.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/30/oneplus-5s-jelly-scrolling-upside-down-screen/

[Xtrema]

Anyone have the weird scrolling issue? Some are more sensitive to it than others. Looks like displays are installed upside down and the phone's code is set to rotate everything 180 degrees which seems a bit odd.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/30/oneplus-5s-jelly-scrolling-upside-down-screen/


I could not replicate it.

But the video of people who got hit, got hit hard.

[SportEL]

I don't notice that effect on mine.

[eblend]

Mine doesn't do that either. They say it's a small number of people....and they said it's the same displays all around, wonder wtf is the difference?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Mine doesn't do that either. They say it's a small number of people....and they said it's the same displays all around, wonder wtf is the difference?

I suspect like a lot of things, some people just don't notice it, don't care, or aren't sensitive to it even though it might still be there. Lots of screen/visual things are like that.

[Xtrema]

I suspect like a lot of things, some people just don't notice it, don't care, or aren't sensitive to it even though it might still be there. Lots of screen/visual things are like that.

Or it could be that some apps brought out the worse of the effect than others? I tried twitter and facebook and both are fine.

[Xtrema]

3 week in review:

Screen: As stated before, nothing special here other than the unconventional way to mount it. I don't have jelly effect but feel sorry for people who does. Still better than any iproducts but I would say 2K screens ARE sharper. Being 1080p in 2017 is just middle of the road.

Camera: A DXOMark of 87, so it is in the realm of flagships. Pictures from this phone is best I have seen on a cell phone. Bokeh is a gimmick, zoom while still inferior to real camera, also the best I have seen on a cell. Video performance suffers due to bad app and lack of OIS or gyroscope tied EIS like the Pixel. Shaky video unless you attach it to a gimbal.

Connectivity: This is where this handset fails.

BT: Failed out of the gate but patch 1 fixed it.
Wifi: Failed out of the gate and after 3 patches, it's still not to be trusted. Now when I can't get online with wifi, I have no idea if it's a bad AP or bad phone. Most likely the latter.
Cell: Also bad if you are on Freedom. Seems ok if you are on Big 3's network but I have no input on that.

Battery: Good life and Dash Charging IMO is the best in the biz. Phone doesn't burn up like QC2 or QC3.

OS: Close to stock. I like the clean appearance.

Verdict:
Connectivity is really the downfall for this phone. It has always been since OP1. Sad to see that 3 years later and they still can't get it right out of the gate.

[eblend]

3 week in review:

Screen: As stated before, nothing special here other than the unconventional way to mount it. I don't have jelly effect but feel sorry for people who does. Still better than any iproducts but I would say 2K screens ARE sharper. Being 1080p in 2017 is just middle of the road.

Camera: A DXOMark of 87, so it is in the realm of flagships. Pictures from this phone is best I have seen on a cell phone. Bokeh is a gimmick, zoom while still inferior to real camera, also the best I have seen on a cell. Video performance suffers due to bad app and lack of OIS or gyroscope tied EIS like the Pixel. Shaky video unless you attach it to a gimbal.

Connectivity: This is where this handset fails.

BT: Failed out of the gate but patch 1 fixed it.
Wifi: Failed out of the gate and after 3 patches, it's still not to be trusted. Now when I can't get online with wifi, I have no idea if it's a bad AP or bad phone. Most likely the latter.
Cell: Also bad if you are on Freedom. Seems ok if you are on Big 3's network but I have no input on that.

Battery: Good life and Dash Charging IMO is the best in the biz. Phone doesn't burn up like QC2 or QC3.

OS: Close to stock. I like the clean appearance.

Verdict:
Connectivity is really the downfall for this phone. It has always been since OP1. Sad to see that 3 years later and they still can't get it right out of the gate.

I'm on Rogers and reception is great for me, no complaints. WiFi was somewhat of an issue at first but was addressed with a later patch. Haven't had problems since. Don't use BT yet, but will in a few weeks when I get my vehicle, will report at that time how that goes. Loving the battery life, and I agree, Dash Charging is amazingly fast, and phone stays normal temp. Camera is great for what I use it for, and phone is fast, so I really have no complaints. Loving it.

[HiTempguy1]

My nexus5x died on the long weekend so I ended up buying a Oneplus 5.

Zero regrets. This phone is everything its cracked up to be. I honestly don't know if I'll ever need a smartphone better than this.

I am sure the S8, Iphone X, are all at the same point. But for only $650 (I got the peasant version), it works perfectly. My buddy also bought one which has the jelly screen, mine seems fine. Even with the jelly screen, it didn't bother me.

The battery life is great, and fast charge is life changing. Even using a "normal" high watt wall charger or cigarette lighter charger (2.5amp) it charges very fast.

I'm on koodo/telus network, haven't noticed any reception differences.

[eblend]

seems fine. Even with the jelly screen, it didn't bother me.

The battery life is great, and fast charge is life changing.

Agree. Never realized how awesome fast charging can be. Forgot to change phone one night, was at like 6% in the morning. Plugged her in, before leaving to work 40 min later, it was at 95%.

[OTown]

Dash charge is the future. Awesome tech

[OTown]

To Further prove my previous post... New article out comparing the charging systems out there.

Speed, Thermal, and Performance Comparison of Fast Charge Standards

https://www.xda-developers.com/charging-comparison-oneplus-huawei/

[Xtrema]

Dash charge is the future. Awesome tech

Dash Charge > Quick Charge 1/2/3.

High amperage is better than high voltage.

The problem is it's hard to find car chargers other than the official one.

[HiTempguy1]

The problem is it's hard to find car chargers other than the official one.

It still charges really quick with a 2.5amp cigarette lighter charger. Way quicker than my 5X did with the exact same charging equipment.

Also remember, cigarette outlets are not designed for high amperage. Good chance you'll burn it out using the 4.7amp oneplus charger.

[Type_S1]

This phone is inferior to Apples and Samsung offering by far. I mean if you can't afford a good phone and want to save $300 sure - but this is just an inferior product. Have had multiple friends who have owned previous iterations and Not 1 of them was happy with it and eventually switched to Samsung/Apple.

[HiTempguy1]

This phone is inferior to Apples and Samsung offering by far. I mean if you can't afford a good phone and want to save $300 sure - but this is just an inferior product. Have had multiple friends who have owned previous iterations and Not 1 of them was happy with it and eventually switched to Samsung/Apple.

A+ contribution to the thread. Care to expand beyond "its inferior"? From a performance/hardware standpoint, it certainly isn't. And many people love an open OS environment with no bloatware (unlike Samsung, so much bloat) or Apple (locked into IOS).

And you aren't saving $300, the oneplus 5 competes with the Iphone X, which starts at $1310. So its more like $600. The S8 is $1,000, so the $300 greater price, but has less ram (for starters).

Now, you can talk about displays. And I can tell you right now, I'm a screen quality freak, but when you are talking about a 5.5" screen, it really starts to become less of an issue. Its like going 4k vs 1080p on a 70" TV. It just isn't worth it from a visual perspective. But that's just like, my opinion, man ;)

[rage2]

That’s the first time I’ve heard the OP5 competing with the iPhone X.

[HiTempguy1]

That’s the first time I’ve heard the OP5 competing with the iPhone X.

Competing is relative. If you give a crap about shit like facial recognition, then of course it doesn't compete. If you look at it from the perspective of a portable computer in your pocket, its pretty clear that in performance regards, they are on about the same level.

Its like me saying a ZL1 camaro vs a amg c63 is the same. Performance in a variety of aspects is fairly similiar, but clearly one has a premium placement to its status, even if it does nothing that we expect of cars (drive) in a better fashion.

Its ok rage, you can have your shiny iphone. I'd never pay that much money for one, especially with that insanely stupid notch thing :rofl:

[rage2]

Competing is relative. If you give a crap about shit like facial recognition, then of course it doesn't compete. If you look at it from the perspective of a portable computer in your pocket, its pretty clear that in performance regards, they are on about the same level.

Its like me saying a ZL1 camaro vs a amg c63 is the same. Performance in a variety of aspects is fairly similiar, but clearly one has a premium placement to its status, even if it does nothing that we expect of cars (drive) in a better fashion.

Its ok rage, you can have your shiny iphone. I'd never pay that much money for one, especially with that insanely stupid notch thing :rofl:
No need to be so sensitive. :rofl:

I'm just shocked that comparison is being made. The performance of the 2 phones are worlds apart. I couldn't find anything that was close between the 2 phones. Hell even comparing with the iPhone 7, the only thing really close were synthetic benchmarks, and that's because OP5 got busted by Google for cheating on it. This isn't remotely close to ZL1 vs C63, more like Civic vs C63. That's why I brought it up in the first place.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

No need to be so defensive. :rofl:

I'm just shocked that comparison is being made. The performance of the 2 phones are worlds apart. I couldn't find anything that was close between the 2 phones. Hell even comparing with the iPhone 7, the only thing really close were synthetic benchmarks, and that's because OP5 got busted by Google for cheating on it. This isn't remotely close to ZL1 vs C63, more like Civic vs C63.

Having not looked at benchmarks, or really any iPhone stats, I can't really comment. That being said, I transitioned to the OP5 from the N6P after my display died, and there was no other decent looking phones for <$1000 off contract. Personally, I'm too embroiled into Android (and enjoy android) to go back to Apple, but compared to the S8, Pixel, Pixel XL, the OP5 seemed like a dead win in terms of bang for buck. The screens not the greatest, but the storage and speed are fantastic, and Oxygen OS has been really nice, considering I was in love with native Android.

That being said, quite a few people made the comparison. Likely partly due to the fact that the OP5 is an iPhone clone.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=oneplus+5+performance+vs+iphone+7&rlz=1C1GGRV_enCA752CA754&oq=oneplus+5+performance+vs+iphone+7&aqs=chrome..69i57.5583j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/oneplus-5-vs-iphone-7,review-4465.html

[rage2]

That being said, quite a few people made the comparison. Likely partly due to the fact that the OP5 is an iPhone clone.
Yea, I made that comparison too (OP5 vs IP7). He was comparing to the IPX which was a head scratcher for me.

[HiTempguy1]

No need to be so sensitive. :rofl:


Haha, I can assure you I'm not being defensive, just explaining the thought process.

I don't know what to tell you. I'd love to get my hands on a X just to check it out, but I disagree with your civic vs C63 assessment ;) You still have not provided one shred of a rebuttal demonstrating how or why the Iphone X is clearly in another category, by all means let me know :p

[rage2]

Haha, I can assure you I'm not being defensive, just explaining the thought process.

I don't know what to tell you. I'd love to get my hands on a X just to check it out, but I disagree with your civic vs C63 assessment ;) You still have not provided one shred of a rebuttal demonstrating how or why the Iphone X is clearly in another category, by all means let me know :p
OK. 2 seconds of googling.

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/iphone-x-geekbench-4-results-a11-bionic-chip-beat-samsunng-galaxy-s8-oneplus-5-1751598

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[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Wow, those multi core results are fantastic on the X. I expected the single core to already be way better than the OP5, just based off the 7.

[rage2]

OP5 vs IP7+ real world. I mean it's comparable, but still loses out even tho it has more RAM.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nKKuOOU298

I don't see how it can magically come close to an IPX.

[rage2]

Wow, those multi core results are fantastic on the X. I expected the single core to already be way better than the OP5, just based off the 7.
What's hilarious is that the IP8 is benchmarking higher than the IPX, most likely because of higher resolution on the IPX.

I'm excited for the performance boost. I spend so much time on iMovie on my phone, faster rendering speed is going to be huge for me.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Wow, those multi core results are fantastic on the X. I expected the single core to already be way better than the OP5, just based off the 7.

It's because they added more cores this time around. The performance is impressive, but what's funny is all the people who are surprised by the gains in multi-core performance when they added more cores lol.

The iPhone 8 scores the highest because the screen resolution is the lowest.

I'm an Android fan but there is nothing about the OP5 that really impresses me, even compared to last year's flagships. You also can't trust any of their benchmarks and the company's owner has been caught in so many lies. Arguably the two most important things on any phone, the screen and the camera, are both not very good, at least for my needs.

[Xtrema]

OnePlus 5T announced, ready for pre order next week.

Same as the 5 but screen stretched to 18:9 and fingerprint sensor moved to the back.

Also, anyone who is on Freedom Mobile, latest update for the 5 fixed the LTE/HSPA network switching issue.

[jwslam]

Anyone rocking the 5T? Reviews?

[HiTempguy1]

Anyone rocking the 5T? Reviews?

I don't understand the 5T. Not even a bigger battery, more ram, or a better processor. Whats the point?

18:9 screen would drive me nuts I think. :dunno:

[Xtrema]

Anyone rocking the 5T? Reviews?

Potential CC hack on their sites, CC ordering is down right now, only accept Paypal.

Not rocking 5T, not enough of a difference than 5.

Every review basically say it's one of the best budget flagships. I don't see how 5T will take away good reps built by 5, especially if you like back finger print reader.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

I don't understand the 5T. Not even a bigger battery, more ram, or a better processor. Whats the point?

18:9 screen would drive me nuts I think. :dunno:

I really like it so far, and I prefer the fingerprint scanner on the rear. I took an opportunity to upgrade, as someone wanted to buy my 5.

[MarSer88]

ya, not really exited for that. Lol

[jaylo]

I really like it so far, and I prefer the fingerprint scanner on the rear. I took an opportunity to upgrade, as someone wanted to buy my 5.

Digital zoom, autofocus, face detection, 402ppi, 6" HD screen, 128GB 8GB RAM, sleeker body differentiates it from the OP5.

Got one since the launch and had zero issues with it.

[HiTempguy1]

Digital zoom, autofocus,

These are huge, makes more sense as an upgrade then.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Digital zoom, autofocus, face detection, 402ppi, 6" HD screen, 128GB 8GB RAM, sleeker body differentiates it from the OP5.

Got one since the launch and had zero issues with it.

How are digital zoom and autofocus standout features on the 5t? Pretty well every phone has those as their most basic camera functions.

[jaylo]

OP5 does not have digital zoom and Phase Detection autofocus, unfortunately.

https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/OnePlus-5-vs-OnePlus-5T

[Mitsu3000gt]

OP5 does not have digital zoom and Phase Detection autofocus, unfortunately.

https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/OnePlus-5-vs-OnePlus-5T

You couldn't pinch-zoom before taking a photo on a OP5? That's all digital zoom is really doing, is cropping.

[Xtrema]

OP5 does not have digital zoom and Phase Detection autofocus, unfortunately.

https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/OnePlus-5-vs-OnePlus-5T

OP5 is optical zoom until you hit 1.6x. Beyond that it's digital.

OP5T is fully digital.

IMO while optical is slightly better, neither zooms are good. I have yet to see how 5T's 20MP with IPT works in real life. I heard mixed review on that due to the fact that you can't manually choose when the camera activates the 20MP sensor and has to depends on the light sensor. So for most people, they are stuck with crappy pics with the 16MP shooter in low light.

IMO, Camera is where OP falls behind a bit against competitors. The sensors are pretty good, hope they can figure out the software side and incorporate some mods that the open source community is developing.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-camera-m-mod-improves-photo-quality-oneplus-5-5t/

[bjstare]

I've had a couple OP phones now (currently on 3T), and have been consistently disappointed with software glitches. As an example, the 3T didn't connect to the bluetooth in my lexus for nearly a year... and the explanation I found online was simply "yeah... it doesn't like to connect to lexus/toyota, and some other cars." Eventually it got fixed with an update, but now it's having trouble with my RDX.. if I am streaming music, and receive a call, the phone doesn't know how to pick up the call. Have to disconnect BT just so I can take/make a call.

I'll be going back to google phones after this probably, never had that type of problem with them. I don't care how good the camera or hardware is on a certain phone if it can't do simple shit like play music and take calls. :dunno:

[Xtrema]

I've had a couple OP phones now (currently on 3T), and have been consistently disappointed with software glitches. As an example, the 3T didn't connect to the bluetooth in my lexus for nearly a year... and the explanation I found online was simply "yeah... it doesn't like to connect to lexus/toyota, and some other cars." Eventually it got fixed with an update, but now it's having trouble with my RDX.. if I am streaming music, and receive a call, the phone doesn't know how to pick up the call. Have to disconnect BT just so I can take/make a call.

I'll be going back to google phones after this probably, never had that type of problem with them. I don't care how good the camera or hardware is on a certain phone if it can't do simple shit like play music and take calls. :dunno:

I had BT problem with OPO, BB Priv, it's not completely solved until I got OP5.

I don't know if software/hardware or the car. OPO and PRiv was paired with Audi, Priv and OP5 was paired with Merc.

[C4S]

Would like to pick up a 1+5T or M10 soon ... may be V30 .. :clap:

[jaylo]

Would like to pick up a 1+5T or M10 soon ... may be V30 .. :clap:

New or Used? Let me know I may be parting out with my OP5T for another Android device. I have the 8/128 version. Tempered glass, folding case, and 3 hard covers.

[C4S]

Probably new .. unless I see a used one with good price, plan to buy from Hong Kong when I go there .. can compare those phones side by side .. :)