How to Buy a Ferrari

[max_boost]

Is there a guide for this?

Do you just walk into the dealer and say I wanna buy a Ferrari?

Do you negotiate?

They have 7 years worth of maintenance included now, right? Drive it for 7 years and just change the tires and brakes?

More than I can afford but YOLO

[Buster]

depends on the model. And the 7 year thing isn't quite as beneficial as it seems, overall. Ferraris don't have those enormous engine-out tune-ups any more.

But yes, you can walk in and buy one, or order it. Allocation and/or delivery time can vary a TON depending on whether you are in The Club or not, though.

[rage2]

Does the dealer even stock new inventory? I was under the impression that every car was ordered.

[01RedDX]

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[BavarianBeast]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Ferrari is sold out of every production vehicle right now and you couldn't order one unless you were already in the Ferrari owners/buyer club. I could totally be wron, but I was told this by a credible source.

[RickDaTuner]

I think you need to buy a few used ones from the dealer before they start taking you serious on a new purchase.

I do have a contact at Ferrari of Alberta though, if you want to get the ball rolling.

[JRSC00LUDE]

I wonder why the update to that story that the writer retracted it? Strong arm him to let him buy the car he wanted? haha

[01RedDX]

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[Buster]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Ferrari is sold out of every production vehicle right now and you couldn't order one unless you were already in the Ferrari owners/buyer club. I could totally be wron, but I was told this by a credible source.

I think a lot of it is they actually like to give this impression....part of the Hermes Branding Strategy.

But if you were to walk in and put a deposit on one, you can get one. Just might take a while.

I love the cars, but the Ferrari market itself is somewhat annoying. An unhealthy obsession with mileage, leads to very mileage dependent depreciation (more than other supercars), and so people don't drive them. The FX has also screwed us on used Ferraris. I do wonder if the Ferrari market is going to be a big bursting bubble shortly. (Some say it has already burst.)

[The_Penguin]

Apparently it's hard, even if you're flossin':

http://jalopnik.com/5938170/how-ferrari-is-losing-a-generation-of-buyers


Top tip: dress to the nines, put on a monocle and tell them you're a wealthy industrialist named HE Pennypacker.

Baller problems.

[zhao]

Step 1, go to Vancouver. While you're there eat some good food.

The article about Ontario Ferrari sounds like it could be written about Calgary. Calgary feels like it is is a money laundering front because they dont actually believe in selling products or services IMO. If you can get Calgary to let you buy something you better buy a lottery ticket because you're one in a million. I dealt with them before for buying parts, many times, and the last time was the 'last' because even when trying to order 20-30g in parts (that amounts to about 8-10 parts in Ferrari land) I apparently was wasting their time so much I still couldn't get someone to order them or let me pay for them after a week or 2 of calling every day or so. Ferrari Vancouver totally different story; ordered, account setup, and paid for within hours of calling; they clearly discovered that if you trade products and service for money, u can make a tidy profit.

I wouldn't buy a ferrari (not that i'd cash in my investments and buy a new one now anyway) based off that experience at calgary, because you'll have to deal with them for service. As far as i'm concerned if they act like assholes when you're trying to give them 20+g for <30 minutes of work, and already have spent that multiple times with them in the last few years on other cars, how are they going to treat you when you have a problem with one of their finicky shitily built products (and lets face it, these are not well made cars. infact, they're pretty terrible. YOu buy them for the badge, and looks, and you buy them for that awesome sound).

[max_boost]

Interesting.

Sounds like fun to make the drive out to Van yearly for the service. I could do it during my annual vacation, drop off and pick up in 2-3 weeks.

Anyway, I am who I am lol an untucked shirt (tailored tho lol), jeans and chucks. I don't know how to dress to impress so looks like AB is a no go haha

I need to do something financially irresponsible anyway to keep my mind occupied and something to chase and figured a stupid expensive car is the way to go :D :burnout: :clap:

[pfis300]

I still cant understand why people buy Ferrari's in the first place - let alone still pursue them after these encounters.

Then again, I'd take a Huracan over a F50 so who am I to talk.

[Disoblige]

Ferraris don't impress anyways. I would hate to be mistaken as some mainlander with rich parents overseas lol.

Not sure what I would go with but definitely something really unique and badass.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Get a baby Mclaren.

[zhao]

Anyway, I am who I am lol an untucked shirt (tailored tho lol), jeans and chucks. I don't know how to dress to impress so looks like AB is a no go haha

I think you might be screwed in van though for a 'look' as baller HK/CBC is so 2000s. I'd say the FOB mainlander look is probably what gets the red carpet brought out there lol.

[Buster]

Step 1, go to Vancouver. While you're there eat some good food.

The article about Ontario Ferrari sounds like it could be written about Calgary. Calgary feels like it is is a money laundering front because they dont actually believe in selling products or services IMO. If you can get Calgary to let you buy something you better buy a lottery ticket because you're one in a million. I dealt with them before for buying parts, many times, and the last time was the 'last' because even when trying to order 20-30g in parts (that amounts to about 8-10 parts in Ferrari land) I apparently was wasting their time so much I still couldn't get someone to order them or let me pay for them after a week or 2 of calling every day or so. Ferrari Vancouver totally different story; ordered, account setup, and paid for within hours of calling; they clearly discovered that if you trade products and service for money, u can make a tidy profit.

I wouldn't buy a ferrari (not that i'd cash in my investments and buy a new one now anyway) based off that experience at calgary, because you'll have to deal with them for service. As far as i'm concerned if they act like assholes when you're trying to give them 20+g for <30 minutes of work, and already have spent that multiple times with them in the last few years on other cars, how are they going to treat you when you have a problem with one of their finicky shitily built products (and lets face it, these are not well made cars. infact, they're pretty terrible. YOu buy them for the badge, and looks, and you buy them for that awesome sound).

This is what led me away from looking at used 458s. (That and the bubble pricing on them). Plenty of guys who left other brands for a 458 came back saying that fit and finish and build quality were the main reasons. They really aren't put together well.

[ercchry]

Don't you just go to sketchy used car lots and look at questionable history 360s? :rofl:

I don't think I'd ever want a Ferrari though... like Rolex, so cliche and diluted

Aston... or maybe mclaren, but only after the Bentley for the dd :D

[shakalaka]

I hear there is a Koenigsegg dealership in Calgary, no? :D

[pfis300]

Don't you just go to sketchy used car lots and look at questionable history 360s? :rofl:

I don't think I'd ever want a Ferrari though... like Rolex, so cliche and diluted

Aston... or maybe mclaren, but only after the Bentley for the dd :D

Cayman GT4 + Macan Turbo.... solid garage setup for still 2/3 the price of a diluted used 458 LOL

[max_boost]

Well thank you for all the comments. Just don't want a dj_mar situation lol

[88CRX]

Well thank you for all the comments. Just don't want a dj_mar situation lol

Well played. Haha.

[bigbadboss101]

Interesting.

Sounds like fun to make the drive out to Van yearly for the service. I could do it during my annual vacation, drop off and pick up in 2-3 weeks.

Anyway, I am who I am lol an untucked shirt (tailored tho lol), jeans and chucks. I don't know how to dress to impress so looks like AB is a no go haha

I need to do something financially irresponsible anyway to keep my mind occupied and something to chase and figured a stupid expensive car is the way to go :D :burnout: :clap:

Do more traveling, cruises, volunteering etc. Play more sports, pick up a new hobby. The window is open for you and while doing something you love you might meet some cool people. You have the $ and the time so the opportunity is great. Some people want to go but can't because of finance, health, time. Very well can have lasting memories.

[rage2]

Interesting.

Sounds like fun to make the drive out to Van yearly for the service. I could do it during my annual vacation, drop off and pick up in 2-3 weeks.
Each drive would cost you $15k in depreciation. :rofl:

Before FoA, people would truck their cars to Van for service.

[you&me]

Each drive would cost you $15k in depreciation. :rofl:

Before FoA, people would truck their cars to Van for service.

A lot of people still do.

The problem with Ferrari isn't the cars themselves, but the local dealership. Shit runs down hill, if you know what I mean...

[90_Shelby]

Why not buy from Kulu and service at Riegel Tuning?

[Buster]

I tried, but we ended up a million apart on this.:love:

http://i.imgur.com/ZG3eAHY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xyl7iiD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wuVIMUb.jpg

[Darkane]

So it's really that hard to buy a Ferrari? That's stupid.

The new California replacement looks so nice too. If I ever bought this baller, I might have to go Mclaren or Audi.

Let's see what the mid engine Vette looks like though!

Max, any love for the R8? Value wise it's the leader in Canada in my opinion.

[triplep]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftj2CrtPQZk

[88CRX]

Why not buy another Honda?

http://cdn1.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/0/83/img_8585_0.jpg

Servicing should be no issue.

[rage2]

R8 is a great value if you don't value driving enjoyment.

[Buster]

I test drove a 2017 V10 Plus, and loved it. The V10 at full song definitely satisfies "driving enjoyment".

[chongkee_]

Why not buy another Honda?

Servicing should be no issue.

Saw one in this color yesterday at Crowfoot. Looks great in person.

[max_boost]

Heloc a black NSX. I think I would do that.

[403civic]

Silverhill Acura has a Casino White NSX in stock

[Disoblige]

Silverhill Acura has a Casino White NSX in stock
Too bad the contrast with the black is so ugly. Probably why people want a black one too.

[Buster]

Just say no to the NSX. Yuk.

And they cant sell them.

[rage2]

I test drove a 2017 V10 Plus, and loved it. The V10 at full song definitely satisfies "driving enjoyment".
To be fair I haven't driven the latest ones. The handling dynamics was boring to me. Way too easy to drive.


Heloc a black NSX. I think I would do that.
But then you'd be driving a Honda and not a Ferrari. :dunno:

[Buster]

To be fair I haven't driven the latest ones. The handling dynamics was boring to me. Way too easy to drive.



Well, there is a reason other than cost that I got what I got.

[you&me]

Many times exotics, it's not the cost of entry, but the cost of exit that will get ya.

Ferrari's games that they play with their new cars / allocations play a huge part in their residual values. That, and the new cars going turbo and the subsequent affect on the sound have bolstered values on the 458s recently.

On the other hand, the NSX has not been well received in the market and resale will likely suffer. Aside from Ferrari, buying almost any sports car is a (very) rich man's game... Takes a big wallet (and balls) to be ok eating the depreciation on your average Vantage, R8, AMG GT, Huracan, 911, etc...

[Sugarphreak]

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[Jlude]

I thought you were going to go with something more sensible after the Porsche, haha

Maybe it is just me, but the NSX and Porsche are playing a totally different game than anything made by Ferrari. The only people I even see driving them in Van are flamboyant douchebags with gold sunglasses and 17 year old Asian kids. I know it does have racing heritage/pedigree, but at the consumer level it is kind of a just a flashy poser brand.

What about the new NSX?

Prices are starting to come down because they're not selling, but for me personally (although you asked Sam), I know the NSX is fast and I think it's one of the best looking performance cars on the market currently, but I can't get past the V6 for that price. I know the performance numbers, but still. For that price, I need a car that growls.

[heavyD]

The NSX totally bombed for Honda. If you check online you will see lots of NSX's for sale across the country as nobody wants them. I always wonder if a car like this may perform better in the used car market later on because there won't be many available seeing most dealers can't move the initial ones they got so there shouldn't be many re-orders. I really think Honda shouldn't have incorporated the stupid Acura beak into the design. Why add the design cue from your regular lineup that everyone hates to your supercar? Maybe it doesn't bother everyone but when I look at an NSX I can't unsee that same beak from an MDX or their sedans that nobody buys.

[Buster]

It's a mish mash of the worst styling cues Acura insists on keeping around.

[killramos]

Don't you just go to sketchy used car lots and look at questionable history 360s? :rofl:

I don't think I'd ever want a Ferrari though... like Rolex, so cliche and diluted

Aston... or maybe mclaren, but only after the Bentley for the dd :D

+1 All the way.

Fuck i hope i can own an Aston one day. Ferrari though holds 0 appeal.

[jaylo]

Should have kept your old NSX... Definite head turner these days, such a rare vehicle.

I mean who in the right mind would buy a Ferrari when there's so many better cars out there. People definitely buying it for the name.

[infected]

Geez tough crowd. I'd love to own a Ferrari one day. 355 :drool:

[TomcoPDR]

Geez tough crowd. I'd love to own a Ferrari one day. 355 :drool:


No doubt. I say it's such a true baller thing to do. Don't even think I qualify for a heloc for the downpayment for one of these beasts. Such raw power and manly.

[90_Shelby]

Has it been stated which Ferrari Max is looking at? Possibly the FF or GTC4 Lusso? :love:

[asp integra]

It doesn't look that hard!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPS02EFgdfE

[Xtrema]

The NSX totally bombed for Honda. If you check online you will see lots of NSX's for sale across the country as nobody wants them. I always wonder if a car like this may perform better in the used car market later on because there won't be many available seeing most dealers can't move the initial ones they got so there shouldn't be many re-orders. I really think Honda shouldn't have incorporated the stupid Acura beak into the design. Why add the design cue from your regular lineup that everyone hates to your supercar? Maybe it doesn't bother everyone but when I look at an NSX I can't unsee that same beak from an MDX or their sedans that nobody buys.

Other than the looks, I think the NSX cost $100K more than it should be. It should be priced at $100-150K CAD.

[Buster]

Geez tough crowd. I'd love to own a Ferrari one day. 355 :drool:

you'd love to drive one. Own? Not so much.

[RickDaTuner]

Head to vegas and rent a few before you buy Max... those ultra low dolla Rarri rentals are shit bagged cars but, it'll give you a good idea.

[TYMSMNY]

Has it been stated which Ferrari Max is looking at? Possibly the FF or GTC4 Lusso? :love:

Yasssssss.... so much want.

[C4S]

Actually, it isn't that bad to deal with FOA now, I guess with the new "Alfa" department, they need to open the door for all kind of customers, their Alfa salesperson is very friendly and easy to chat with, (even when I told him I had an Alfa Milano, he didn't know what I were talking about .. ) he showed me around the dealership, looked at some Alfa and Ferrari, and also chatted with the Ferrari Sale and manager ..

I know most the time you walk in to FOA, and tell the receptionist you want to "just look at some Ferrari' they will give you funny faces bluh bluh bluh ... but now, you can look at the Alfa first, at least, break the ice first ... :)

I remember one time I went to FOA, two young Chinese boys (teens?) walked in, and one guy ran to them and said "What can we do? " ( not too polite ) and one boy said he want to order the new Maserati SUV ... the guy replied "Sure, I need $10,000 from you now, and your name, address .. ", and the boy took his credit out, and DONE!

I guess if the can sell a $100K plus SUV in 2 min .. they don't need to offer the best service .. lol

[civic_stylez]

As a former Ferrari employee I can tell you that the process can be very difficult. The one thing Ferrari does better than any other brand is sell the "lifestyle". Many Ferrari owners dont really care that their car isnt the fastest.. its just that they have one. Especially if you are on the lucky list of people that get the early/first versions. They've paid a substantial premium over retail but its just so you can say you had the FIRST one. You get your owners card and red key and you get to go to all the fancy F1 driver meet and greets and wear all the cool Ferrari merchandise. Those who have money are not concerned about getting a Ferrari as they are approached for pre orders long before the floor models arrive. Its the "normal rich" guys who usually end up buying low mileage second hand ones. Most of the second hand ones that are sold are never even posted for sale. People like Kulu know where certain cars are and everything is for sale for the right price. Ive worked for several luxury brands in my life and Ferrari would definitely fall under one of the weirdest most unorthodox ways of doing things. Kind of like the mafia, you need to be "in" and the higher up you are, the better opportunities you get from them.

[ExtraSlow]

I don't have and probably will never have the money for it to matter, but this whole concept really turns me off.

[infamous]

As a former Ferrari employee I can tell you that the process can be very difficult. The one thing Ferrari does better than any other brand is sell the "lifestyle". Many Ferrari owners dont really care that their car isnt the fastest.. its just that they have one. Especially if you are on the lucky list of people that get the early/first versions. They've paid a substantial premium over retail but its just so you can say you had the FIRST one. You get your owners card and red key and you get to go to all the fancy F1 driver meet and greets and wear all the cool Ferrari merchandise. Those who have money are not concerned about getting a Ferrari as they are approached for pre orders long before the floor models arrive. Its the "normal rich" guys who usually end up buying low mileage second hand ones. Most of the second hand ones that are sold are never even posted for sale. People like Kulu know where certain cars are and everything is for sale for the right price. Ive worked for several luxury brands in my life and Ferrari would definitely fall under one of the weirdest most unorthodox ways of doing things. Kind of like the mafia, you need to be "in" and the higher up you are, the better opportunities you get from them.


Very very well said!!!! So strange of how they do business, the number of lawsuits thrown around is incredible, and the fact that you HAVE to own certain cars for a certain period of time otherwise you won't get the newest latest greatest model before everyone else. If I could ever afford it I would buy from Van before ever dealing with Alberta.

[C4S]

You can get "Foreign Student lease program" to buy Ferrari, Lambo, Mclaren, Bentley, Rolls, Aston etc in Vancouver ... LoL

[flipstah]

You can get "Foreign Student lease program" to buy Ferrari, Lambo, Mclaren, Bentley, Rolls, Aston etc in Vancouver ... LoL

wat

[Team_Mclaren]

You can get "Foreign Student lease program" to buy Ferrari, Lambo, Mclaren, Bentley, Rolls, Aston etc in Vancouver ... LoL


Yes it's actually pretty popular in Van. Quite a few foreign students do it. Put down 10-20% then leaswe for 12-24 months. Do it all over again for a newer model after.

[revelations]

You can get "Foreign Student lease program" to buy Ferrari, Lambo, Mclaren, Bentley, Rolls, Aston etc in Vancouver ... LoL

Almost nothing about the GVRD applies to Calgary. Apples to Oranges. Vancouver to Calgary is like comparing Monaco to some small town in the middle of Europe.

[davidI]

https://www.eastsidedodge.com/showroom/2017/Dodge/Viper/Coupe.htm

[Team_Mclaren]

Almost nothing about the GVRD applies to Calgary. Apples to Oranges. Vancouver to Calgary is like comparing Monaco to some small town in the middle of Europe.


Why? it's not hard to get into a third party lease? Any Luxury brand dealer can do that.

[revelations]

Why? it's not hard to get into a third party lease? Any Luxury brand dealer can do that.

What I am saying is that, while also referencing the ferrari post above about GVRD dealers, the Lower Mainland has different practices and methods for luxury items. Probably very few "FOB" lease programs here.

[Team_Mclaren]

What I am saying is that, while also referencing the ferrari post above about GVRD dealers, the Lower Mainland has different practices and methods for luxury items. Probably very few "FOB" lease programs here.

fair enough. Its not popular in AB thats for sure. But there are tons of FOB leases in Van and they are not difficult to come across.

[NewLextasy]

I don't usually post anything anymore but this thread bugs me .

Anyone can walk into either the Ferrari or Lamborghini dealer and order a new car with a small deposit .

The only Ferrari cars that had a special rule of needing to own certain cars were the Enzo and The La Ferrari .

If you are seriously interested in one just walk in and ask a sales guy what they have for inventory new and used will be in stock. Or pay 10k deposit and get an allocation for a new build. I promise it's no different then going into Mercedes and buying a car except the price tag.

It's very simple. Lots of miss information in this thread .

[infamous]

I don't usually post anything anymore but this thread bugs me .

Anyone can walk into either the Ferrari or Lamborghini dealer and order a new car with a small deposit .

The only Ferrari cars that had a special rule of needing to own certain cars were the Enzo and The La Ferrari .

If you are seriously interested in one just walk in and ask a sales guy what they have for inventory new and used will be in stock. Or pay 10k deposit and get an allocation for a new build. I promise it's no different then going into Mercedes and buying a car except the price tag.

It's very simple. Lots of miss information in this thread .

You are partially right. If you want a California or a 488 you can walk in and usually buy or allocate for new build. But even then in my experience a lot of the cars get ordered wrong and you end up waiting for the right one to show up. A guy I know had a 488 spider ordered, the first one that came in was missing the power seats, the shields, brake calipers were a different colour, interior stitching wasn't right, etc. Ferrari didn't care because they already have a lineup of people waiting to buy it. So it was another 4 months of waiting before receiving the proper car. You want something a little more fancy, like the 458 speciale? The new 488 version of the speciale? or even for shits and giggles lets say the F12 TDF? Not only do you need to be in with the guys at Ferrari, you also need to have owned other models to be considered for buying it. Then you add in the fact that you have to sign a contract that you won't sell the car for 18 months, and all the other nuances of Ferrari and you end up wondering if it is worth it. You can sidestep the dealership and buy the cars, but the prices are usually close to 1.5x-2x the original sticker price.

But that's just Ferrari as a brand. If you walk into the dealership 98% of the time you get ignored, especially before they had Alfa there. Service department is shit, no communication and no customer skills. I absolutely hate having to go there. But with the 7 years of maintenance included it is the only option in this province......

[Sugarphreak]

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[Rocket1k78]

I don't usually post anything anymore but this thread bugs me .

Anyone can walk into either the Ferrari or Lamborghini dealer and order a new car with a small deposit .

The only Ferrari cars that had a special rule of needing to own certain cars were the Enzo and The La Ferrari .

If you are seriously interested in one just walk in and ask a sales guy what they have for inventory new and used will be in stock. Or pay 10k deposit and get an allocation for a new build. I promise it's no different then going into Mercedes and buying a car except the price tag.

It's very simple. Lots of miss information in this thread .

Say it isnt so!!!! Now what are the people who hate on shit they cant afford going to hate on?

[you&me]

What about the secret handshake?


It's less of a secret handshake and more about the optimal tip to tip efficiency...