are we getting the E63 Wagon?

[Buster]

My google-fu is failing me here. Is this coming to Canada?

[rage2]

My google-fu is failing me here. Is this coming to Canada?
Yes. You can spec it out already on www.Mercedes-benz.ca with full pricing.

[Buster]

duh. That must be new. I think I checked last week, and they hadn't updated the website.

[rage2]

Yea it was updated last week. Noticed it trying to spec out an E400 Wagon. Need the 7 seats, you know, in case I don't pull out fast enough. :rofl:

Check with the dealer though on the latest Product Profile. The website is just a guideline, some options won't show up there and only available on the profile sheets that detail every package, options, pre-requisites, etc.

AMG GT C Roadster was added as well. Same price as GT R. :drool:

[Buster]

https://i.imgur.com/KIDWuru.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YWrjZV2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WLdlZH0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YFeaVMF.jpg

[Sentry]

Front looks ok... that back though. :drool:

[Buster]

This is the point where I have to stop "just looking".

[bjstare]

So much want.

[Buster]

So much want.

Yup. So awesome. Must stop. Lol.

[rage2]

If you haven't sat in that interior yet, even a base E400, that will seal the deal. :poosie:

[Buster]

nice. I'm getting the snip in the next couple of weeks, so definitely won't need the rumble seat.

[jaylo]

Beautiful vehicle. The interior is unreal judging by the stock pictures.
Does it come with sporty exhaust burble and pops? I would assume they tone it down with E-Series.

[rage2]

Beautiful vehicle. The interior is unreal judging by the stock pictures.
Does it come with sporty exhaust burble and pops? I would assume they tone it down with E-Series.
It was the loudest recorded vehicle at the C&D Lightning Lap, even louder than the AMG GT R. I guess it needs to be loud seeing as the cabin is pretty quiet.

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I'm still blown away that the E63S Sedan destroyed the Panamera Turbo and was just 2s behind the latest Godzilla GTR around a track. How the fuck does that even happen?

[Buster]

It's an almost comically awesome car.

[JordanLotoski]

Just found out that I might be looking at a November/December delivery....I may just wait and order a 19 for spring:guns:

[Mitsu3000gt]

I love that MB is the only one willing to bring high-end, high-powered wagons to N/A. These are so awesome.

At the car show I reached under the seat of an E-class and was greeted by the bare seat cushion foam. The seat did not appear to be wrapped all the way around. Was this just a seat cover they used for the car show or something, or are the seats actually like that? The rest was so good I assumed it wasn't normal but I'm not sure.

[Aleks]

They even have the C class wagon in Canada now, haven't seen much online about it, kind of a quiet intro.

[rage2]

They even have the C class wagon in Canada now, haven't seen much online about it, kind of a quiet intro.
I don't think they've actually shown up yet. Was supposed to be here last year, in diesel only, and you know the story on diesels haha.

[Aleks]

There are some out east apparently. Saw this on another forum. $46,000 to start.

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[Xtrema]

There are some out east apparently. Saw this on another forum. $46,000 to start.

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Truth be told, I would do this over any crossdressers... crossovers.

[Buster]

I dont think we can get the estate version of the C63 though?

[Buster]

Just found out that I might be looking at a November/December delivery....I may just wait and order a 19 for spring:guns:

That's probably what I would do, so I'm not driving a car with a year of depreciation under its belt. But I'm cheap and hate (unnecessary) depreciation.

[npham]

I dont think we can get the estate version of the C63 though?

Nope. The only AMG wagon we'll see is the E63(no C43 or E53). I also thought I read somewhere that the E63 was custom order only, as in, dealerships are not stocking them regularly.

[you&me]

That's probably what I would do, so I'm not driving a car with a year of depreciation under its belt. But I'm cheap and hate (unnecessary) depreciation.

+1 Still not as bad as the first F10 M5s... 2012s arrived late April, and the '13s hit mid-June... One year old (and one year's worth of depreciation) after 6 weeks. F-that.

Cancel that order, Jordan.

[Buster]

Nope. The only AMG wagon we'll see is the E63(no C43 or E53). I also thought I read somewhere that the E63 was custom order only, as in, dealerships are not stocking them regularly.

i think they have had that policy for every e63 estate model going way back.

[benyl]

Nope. The only AMG wagon we'll see is the E63(no C43 or E53). I also thought I read somewhere that the E63 was custom order only, as in, dealerships are not stocking them regularly.

The 2014+ was the same. Dealers brought a few in anyway. Lonestar had a 2015 worth about $150K (CCB) in the showroom for a long time.


Just found out that I might be looking at a November/December delivery....I may just wait and order a 19 for spring:guns:

You will be in the same boat.

I ordered my 2014 Wagon in January 2013. I was #1 on Lonestar's list. It was delivered on December 23, 2013. The earliest deliveries for the sedan happened in late Sept. Ask Cocofishez on mbworld when he got his car.

You might get a 2019 sedan in Sept of 2018 if they can catch up with production and the EPA doesnt keep fucking you.

The 2016s came out early (May 2015) I think. But that was the final year.

[Buster]

Can you put a clause into your sales contract that requires delivery before a certain date? I can see 3 months, maybe even 5 month or so as reasonable, but January to December as a normal course of business would be unacceptable to me.

[max_boost]

There are some out east apparently. Saw this on another forum. $46,000 to start.

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budget baller approved! that looks great!

[npham]

No way I could afford this new, so I might have to settle for the E400 when the R's lease is up. E400 with a tune could be a great compromise.

[s2k_boi]

Downtown Mercedes has a C300 wagon in their showroom that arrived earlier this month.

[Buster]

Just found out that I might be looking at a November/December delivery....I may just wait and order a 19 for spring:guns:

JordanLotoski, you could wait for the E63R announcement that's upcoming.

(I haven't been keeping up on E63 news until recently, so maybe this is old news).

[benyl]

Can you put a clause into your sales contract that requires delivery before a certain date? I can see 3 months, maybe even 5 month or so as reasonable, but January to December as a normal course of business would be unacceptable to me.

To be fair, the order banks didn't open until June.

There was an engine shortage or some shit. Happened with my ordered C63 as well.

The other option is to wait for them to stock them. It happens every so often.

[Sentry]

No way I could afford this new, so I might have to settle for the E400 when the R's lease is up. E400 with a tune could be a great compromise.

:thumbsup: 400hp ain't shabby.

[snowcat]

I've been driving a 17 E400 around, great car. The interior is nuts and gets so much attention, people ask if it's factory hahaz

[JordanLotoski]

JordanLotoski, you could wait for the E63R announcement that's upcoming.

(I haven't been keeping up on E63 news until recently, so maybe this is old news).

I have heard rumors of this but read it was limited to 50 cars- which are all coupes. I have talked to my AMG guy and he knows nothing about this. Also I would assume RWD.

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I've been driving a 17 E400 around, great car. The interior is nuts and gets so much attention, people ask if it's factory hahaz

Downtown MB just gave me an 18 E400 coupe until my 63 arrives...Not a bad car

[Buster]

Here's the wagon version of the R, on the ring. (It's not the BS as the video says)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaL90ILrQNs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaL90ILrQNs

[ExtraSlow]

Would be killer to get yours wrapped in that same pattern for everyday driving.

[rage2]

There is no E63 R coming. Last gen had some widebody wagon testing as well, was just a platform used for testing new drivetrain for other cars. There is a C63 R coming tho at the end of the platform run.

There is also no E63 coupe coming. The E coupe will be AMG’d out to E53 with 500hp (430 + 70 hybrid) and that’s it. It sits as a replacement for the outgoing E550. The E coupe is a unique car where there are no comparable competitors because it’s a low volume seller, that’s why there won’t be an E63 coupe because the demand is nil, except for a couple of crazies like us haha.

[Buster]

interesting...so that wagon is a mule? I wonder why they bother with the camo, then?

[HiSpec]

Would be killer to get yours wrapped in that same pattern for everyday driving.

Interesting idea... the camera from the photo radar may have issue focusing the car/plate :p

[rage2]

Photo radar is radar and not optical based. It doesn’t care what you paint your car, as long as radar bounces off it haha.

[HiSpec]

Photo radar is radar and not optical based. It doesn’t care what you paint your car, as long as radar bounces off it haha.

I get the radar part about clocking the speed. But when the camera takes a photo of the licence plate, it'll have a hard time focusing right? Kinda like how photo journalist's camera have a hard time focusing on test mule vehicle due to the black and white camo vinyl wrap.

Or I am completely out to lunch on how photo radar camera works? :nut::nut:

[benyl]

The E coupe is a unique car where there are no comparable competitors because it’s a low volume seller, that’s why there won’t be an E63 coupe because the demand is nil, except for a couple of crazies like us haha.

M6?


I get the radar part about clocking the speed. But when the camera takes a photo of the licence plate, it'll have a hard time focusing right? Kinda like how photo journalist's camera have a hard time focusing on test mule vehicle due to the black and white camo vinyl wrap.

Or I am completely out to lunch on how photo radar camera works? :nut::nut:

That Camo makes it easier to focus with a camera. Camera's need sharp contrast / vertical / horizontal lines to focus on.

[xnvy]

E63 looks amazing. MB has so many nice wagon options now, my personal favourite being the CLS.

https://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/mercedes-benz-cls-shooting-brake-rear-quarter.jpg?itok=jBq7xA8c

Seats only 4 I think but I still love it though. An acquaintance has one, white with red and black interior and wood panelling for the floor of the trunk, very swank.

They just have to revive the R63 now :D

[rage2]

CLS Shooting Brake is a 5 seater. That's gone for the next gen. No CLS63 either, that's being replaced by the AMG GT 4 seater, with a supercar 800hp hybrid version the year after. The hybrid drivetrain is probably what that E63 widebody wagon was testing to bring it all back on topic haha.

[Buster]

Went in to the dealer today....happened to be dressed like a scrub, so no one bothered me. lol

Wanted to check out the interior of the E class. Looked great on the low-option E400 that was there. Although the stock seats are not great. Also checked out the GLE interior because I'd like to replace Mrs. Buster's GL350 with a GLS63. But the interior of the GLE (which I think is the same?) was pretty disappointing.

Ran into JordanLotoski there too, which was a nice surprise.

Here's the config I've got currently. I don't really need all the driving assist stuff, or the premium package. I tend to buy my cars with lower options. The only thing I've got on there is the driver's package.

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[benyl]

This is how I would build mine. So tempted. But I totally don’t need it given mine only has 44K km.

Performance seats, premium and wireless charging. Drivers package for the exhaust. If I was Buster rich, I would get CCB.

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[JordanLotoski]

This is how I would build mine. So tempted. But I totally don’t need it given mine only has 44K km.

Performance seats, premium and wireless charging. Drivers package for the exhaust.

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Good Taste...this is how I did mine- But Black interior (added all CF options as well)
https://image.ibb.co/fFf0pQ/thumb_5922a9227c22f1c10d8b458e_vehicle_hd.jpg

[Buster]

I Saw that blue today, and its goddamn beautiful. I'm just on a "lighter color" kick. The brilliant blue is also fantastic.

But Mercedes is one of those brands where really all of the color options are great.

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This is how I would build mine. So tempted. But I totally don’t need it given mine only has 44K km.



Ya, that's pretty low. Has yours been easy to deal with as a daily? Any major maintenance/quality headaches?

Is that designo lacquer cool in person? I've never seen it.

[rage2]

The dynamic seats are awesome. I had them in my CLS. They’re part of the premium package on the E63, can’t get them individually unfortunately.

I ordered the wagon last week in blue to match Jordan. E400 though for the jump seats in the trunk.

[Buster]

Don't you have enough connections at MB at this point, that you can get them to do a one-off E63S with the jump seats?

[rage2]

Unfortunately, no. I tried so hard to get the GLA45 without leather to get the awesome alcantara seats, no dice. I heard it’s available this year tho in that funky AMG studio edition.

Buying the wagon for the gf, so no need to go 63 anyways.

[benyl]

Ya, that's pretty low. Has yours been easy to deal with as a daily? Any major maintenance/quality headaches?

Is that designo lacquer cool in person? I've never seen it.

I've seen it in the S-class. Problem is that it is a fingerprint magnet and scratches easy. In reality, I'd probably get open pore wood or carbon again.

No real issues. Front suspension on early cars needed some greasing. Been fine every since. We had an issue with the parking sensors that seems to have solved it self.

After many ECU updates, the auto-stop-start finally doesn't stall in intersections for my wife. I've never experienced it because I sit, push the start button and turn one click to the right. Everything else has been great.

[Buster]

Does your year have the air suspension? Sorry I'm lazy

[rage2]

Front coils, rear air for the E63 last gen. I believe this gen has full air body control on all 4 corners.

[Buster]

Also saw that the CCBs are front only. FFS.

[JordanLotoski]

Here are some Great shots of the blue and interior

http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-gallery/mercedes-amg-e63-s-at-lightning-lap-2017-feature-gallery#1

[benyl]

Also saw that the CCBs are front only. FFS.

Where did you see that?

On the C63 they are front only and that is reflected in the cost. $13K is the same price as the W212 and that was all 4. I'd expect that the W213 is also all 4.

[Buster]

I must have been looking at the wrong build/model when I saw that.

[roll_over]

Also checked out the GLE interior because I'd like to replace Mrs. Buster's GL350 with a GLS63. But the interior of the GLE (which I think is the same?) was pretty disappointing.

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I grabbed one for my wife and the hardest part was picking the interior colours. I HATED the interior when it was all black and it looked cheap to me. I ended up going with black wood and white seats and it completely changed the look, completely different and I fell in love. The dash and all other leather is all black though.

If you want to see it in person then let me know and I can show you or post pics at some point.

[Buster]

I grabbed one for my wife and the hardest part was picking the interior colours. I HATED the interior when it was all black and it looked cheap to me. I ended up going with black wood and white seats and it completely changed the look, completely different and I fell in love. The dash and all other leather is all black though.

If you want to see it in person then let me know and I can show you or post pics at some point.

nice! when does it arrive?

[JordanLotoski]

I grabbed one for my wife and the hardest part was picking the interior colours. I HATED the interior when it was all black and it looked cheap to me. I ended up going with black wood and white seats and it completely changed the look, completely different and I fell in love. The dash and all other leather is all black though.

If you want to see it in person then let me know and I can show you or post pics at some point.

63 Wagon?

[rage2]

Think he’s talking about the GLE.

[roll_over]

Think he’s talking about the GLE.


Yep, sorry guys. Meant the GLE

[Buster]

damn...lol

I just specced the GLS with black wood interior, and you're right, a lot better.

[rage2]

damn...lol

I just specced the GLS with black wood interior, and you're right, a lot better.
It's too bad the current GLS doesn't have the black open pore interior. By far my favorite trim, even more so than CF.

[JordanLotoski]

So its finally official.

E63s will be released and shipped asap...they are already arriving in Toronto....SOOOOO excited:clap:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/668441-customer-e63-deliveries-update-please-14.html#post7275634

[Buster]

Congrats Jordan...been a long wait.

[infamous]

just built my dream wagon on the website, but $140 is a little steep for my blood at this time.....lol

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[Buster]

Thats actually a really nice combo. I cant quite make out the color

[infamous]

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here is a better pic for that colour.....I think it is the best colour for the car IMO

[rage2]

Ya that’s the blue. We chose that for our E400 Wagon.

[Buster]

The pic says green?

[Xtrema]

Had some seat time with E63S, it's very comfortable and fast but on the track it's a bit slower at the corner even compared with C43 or SL63 due to weight. But my experience may have been spoiled by driving GT-S and GT-R ahead of the E63S.

Interior is top notch. I didn't hate the dual LCD screen as much as I thought I would.

[Buster]

I tihnk it would be the rare person that would have an E63S wagon, and not an additional car that would be better for the track.

[npham]

I tihnk it would be the rare person that would have an E63S wagon, and not an additional car that would be better for the track.

YOLO? Those new new SMB tax laws could force a couple people to buy some toys.

[benyl]

I tihnk it would be the rare person that would have an E63S wagon, and not an additional car that would be better for the track.

Count me in as that rare person. I figure, why bother when we don't have a track.

[Buster]

Count me in as that rare person. I figure, why bother when we don't have a track.

Yup. You're rare even in the world of a rare car, I bet. Of the 1000 of these they will sell (or whatever the number is), I bet 90% of the people will have an additional sports car. It's the highest average income/net-worth car that Mercedes sells.

[benyl]

Yup. You're rare even in the world of a rare car, I bet. Of the 1000 of these they will sell (or whatever the number is), I bet 90% of the people will have an additional sports car. It's the highest average income/net-worth car that Mercedes sells.

I don't recall the exact number, but 10 a week rings a bell. So that 520 per year max (for the globe) and I know they shutdown every so often.

[Buster]

One of the reasons I want to buy one is to support Mercedes doing this. There is a loyal customer base, and obviously a small cadre of Mercedes employees that basically will a car like this into existence (CTS-V wagon was the same).

[cycosis]

Still wish theyd release a c 43 wagon :( something affordable for us pleebs

[npham]

Still wish theyd release a c 43 wagon :( something affordable for us pleebs

From what I've read, the C43 is not a big jump on the E400. The outgoing E350 was definitely underpowered, but the E400 is definitely adequate.

[rage2]

From what I've read, the C43 is not a big jump on the E400. The outgoing E350 was definitely underpowered, but the E400 is definitely adequate.
While not confirmed or even reported, I’m speculating that once the “53” replaces the “43” in E and higher classes, the C43 will get the 400hp version of the engine that’s currently in the E43. That’s going to be the true sweet spot car in the C lineup and really stand out against its competitors as early as next year when the C gets facelifted.

[shakalaka]

Fuck this thread is making me want to jump back into MB...although I am not a fan of wagons.

[Buster]

Why wouldnt they just put the 53 into the C class instead of the 43.

[rage2]

Why wouldnt they just put the 53 into the C class instead of the 43.
Because the 53 is rumored to be around 500hp. The non AMG version of the 53 power unit already sits at 435hp.

I guess they could bump the power up on the 63s.

[Buster]

The German manufacturers have always had a problem with their mid tier engines getting the fancy new tech first, and eclipsing the premium motors.

Remember the N54 coming out BMW had to lie about its output to not damage M3 sales.

[Xtrema]

Because the 53 is rumored to be around 500hp. The non AMG version of the 53 power unit already sits at 435hp.

I guess they could bump the power up on the 63s.

435/500/600 for E300/E53/E63 is totally doable.

[Jatt87]

Anyone know someone who maybe selling their 2013+ E63 Sedan, not wagon or coming up at the end of their lease?

[Konj]

Looks like a hearse

[Buster]

Someone steal my chequebook please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=MTPaQHghgxw

[Buster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_q95Ty7aTo

Glad I'm no longer in the market.