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phreezee
11-16-2017, 03:08 PM
See my RFD thread. Better than last year! https://forums.redflagdeals.com/enmax-calgary-enmax-pm-atco-offer-2143504/
Atco is offering 2 months free energy to switch and Enmax will match depending on your usage last Jan and Feb.
Live chat is likely faster.
I got a $250 credit.
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OTown
11-16-2017, 03:41 PM
I called them and they said they cant match it. They basically said the NDP are going to govern the rates next year and expect to pay more for ATCO's other months (not sure if they are just spouting bs or if theres a hint of truth there)

Seems like others on RTD got the following reply on livechat:

"We don't match offers, but I can have a look at your account and see what I can do for your ENMAX bill." "I checked with my manager and was told about an ENMAX promotion that we are working on. We will be releasing our own awesome offer in early December on ENMAX.com, please check the web in the next couple of weeks"

Brent.ff
11-16-2017, 03:41 PM
Ya they won't match it. They also said they don't normally match and my match from last year was an 'exception'...did you actually get it matched or did your $250 freak them out

phreezee
11-16-2017, 04:04 PM
All of my neighbors got the deal and that is how I found out. My co-worker got a response of "wait 15 days and we will have a better offer for you.... I could give you a discount now, but you might save more in December"

Disoblige
11-16-2017, 04:21 PM
Hahaha, is anyone on RRO and not EasyMax? They're willing to give me the credit if I switch to EasyMax. Although, not sure why I wasn't on EasyMax to begin with.

phreezee
11-16-2017, 04:24 PM
Ah, that might be the secret... I'm on EasyMax.

lamp_shade_2000
11-16-2017, 04:51 PM
Just called and got the same answer that they wont match it but they have their own offer coming in December. The Atco deal expires at the end of December so at least there is time to make a switch if we feel its necessary if the Enmax deal is garbage. We are on Easymax as well BTW.

tonytiger55
11-16-2017, 05:31 PM
How much electricity are you guys using? My electric bill is $6.22. The rest is all fees, which brings it all around to $33.93 for this month (last month was $44).
Looked around the saving with just energy would be $1. But even then I don't know if that would be offset with admins fees etc. :facepalm:

ercchry
11-16-2017, 05:42 PM
How much electricity are you guys using? My electric bill is $6.22. The rest is all fees, which brings it all around to $33.93 for this month (last month was $44).
Looked around the saving with just energy would be $1. But even then I don't know if that would be offset with admins fees etc. :facepalm:

It’s also for gas? Considering my bill usually goes up by $100-$150/month in jan and feb... seems worthwhile

Star1995
11-16-2017, 06:38 PM
Interesting... Last year Enmax offered me $100, the next bill came and it showed $45, I called and they told me that $45 was all they offer, I played back the recording and they changed it to $100. Now Atco is offering double from last year soooooo... I\ll need to write myself a script and start practicing.

craigcd
11-16-2017, 06:41 PM
I am with Enmax, I haven't spent much time researching the differences between with two companies but was able to get a $200+ rebate out of Enmax last year. So this year, if they don't plan to match why shouldn't I just switch to ATCO?

Tik-Tok
11-16-2017, 06:44 PM
How much electricity are you guys using?

Average around 900kwh in the summer and 1800kwh in winter. So at current rates $32-$65 a month.

dj_rice
11-16-2017, 10:06 PM
I got $87 last year and got my parents around $70ish. Seeing as they are smarter this year, I'll wait Enmax's offer

tonytiger55
11-16-2017, 10:54 PM
It’s also for gas? Considering my bill usually goes up by $100-$150/month in jan and feb... seems worthwhile

No just electricity. I should have clarified.

Interesting. My electric goes up in the summer as I use the AirCon more. I used to only really have my lamp on (LED Bulb). But the electricity used by the other lights is so dam low, it makes no real difference switching off the lights in my Condo.

ZenOps
11-17-2017, 06:02 AM
Even though my Easymax contract expired, they still are honoring the $8.33 / month credit.

I use about 400 kwh per month consistently in electricity and 25 GJ of natgas heating for the entire winter season.

nzwasp
11-28-2017, 10:28 PM
Im surprised you dont have solar panels and a wind turbine powering your house. I bet you have a faraday cage in the basement though right - for when the emp hits.

ZenOps
11-29-2017, 05:56 AM
Sure, a gas generator stored in a EMP cage is probably a good idea. I mean, if you are going to store a gas generator anyhow, might as well spend the extra $50 and use a metal cage for it.

Noone seems to mention that solar panels will likely damage in an EMP blast. I don't think anyone knows for sure, but I can imagine that a polycrystalline lattice will pretty much fry just like a computer chip in that scenario. Wind power should be mostly immune though.

mikestypes
12-01-2017, 02:46 PM
Enmax would not match so switched to Atco today.

Disoblige
12-01-2017, 02:50 PM
I think we're still waiting on whatever the hell ENMAX's offer is supposed to be in early December.
So I guess we'll wait for that and see. Should be sometime soon if what was said above is true.

tonytiger55
12-01-2017, 04:50 PM
Enmax would not match.

Would Atco's delivery charges be the around the same as Enmax?

The Cosworth
12-03-2017, 08:05 AM
Should be since they're the delivery rates set by the AUC. So whoever your wire owner is would have their rates approved and charged. As far as I understand it, the administration fees and the actual energy usage are the only parts of your bill that will change.

goldfish168
12-08-2017, 12:25 PM
Does anybody have an Atco bill on variable with gas and electricity? If so, can you please post what your rates are.

I'm currently with Enmax getting the Easymax credit and also the old $0.47/GJ transaction fee. I'm wondering if the Enmax floating rates are the same as the Atco variable rates.

cloud7
12-11-2017, 02:19 PM
So ENMAX really have nothing to offer other than the chance to win 1 of 25 prizes. The chance winning being pretty slim given the number of ENMAX accounts. Are most people here switching to ATCO?

My Jan and Feb 2017 energy usage was $180... this is just the energy consumed not including any additional fees, so I expect the bill to be similar this year.

goldfish168
12-11-2017, 03:42 PM
I found out Atco is not offering their $50/yr anniversary credit in combination with this free Jan/Feb energy offer.

Unfortunately for me, it won't be worth switching since I get a legacy $100/yr Easymax credit and the lower $.47/GJ transaction fee vs Atco's lower admin fees. For anyone not getting these Enmax legacy credits, it's probably worth switching to Atco!

Although I am still confused about the floating/RRO/variable rates offered. I pulled these off Enmax and Atco's website, as you can see they're not the same:
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ipeefreely
12-11-2017, 08:28 PM
So ENMAX really have nothing to offer other than the chance to win 1 of 25 prizes. The chance winning being pretty slim given the number of ENMAX accounts.

Contest starts on the 4th... receive email from ENMAX on the 8th about the contest! :facepalm:


I'm staying with them because I still get the legacy $100/yr Easymax credit, but WTF that contest is stupid as fuck to match what ATCO is offering! :banghead:

cloud7
12-14-2017, 01:09 PM
I am on Easymax but have floating rates for both gas and electricity. ENMAX website says I need to give them 30-day notice to cancel, whatever that means. Can I still switch to ATCO effective Jan. 1?

mikestypes
12-14-2017, 01:13 PM
I made a request for service with ATCO on Dec 1 and my services were switched effective Dec 4. ATCO does the Enmax notifications. There was no issue concerning 30day notice requirement.

asp integra
12-14-2017, 01:36 PM
Enmax is NOT matching this year. I switched to Atco

taemo
12-14-2017, 01:37 PM
so electricity looks to be cheaper with atco but gas with enmax?
does atco take credit card for payment?

Disoblige
12-14-2017, 01:44 PM
Although I am still confused about the floating/RRO/variable rates offered. I pulled these off Enmax and Atco's website, as you can see they're not the same:

Hmm, if you compare the actual time ranges, they're pretty close.

Seth1968
12-14-2017, 03:04 PM
Atco or Enmax...it doesn't matter.

As time goes on, you'll pay about the same amount regardless of which one you choose.

cloud7
12-14-2017, 04:42 PM
I made a request for service with ATCO on Dec 1 and my services were switched effective Dec 4. ATCO does the Enmax notifications. There was no issue concerning 30day notice requirement.

Good to know. Thanks!


Atco or Enmax...it doesn't matter.

As time goes on, you'll pay about the same amount regardless of which one you choose.

Agreed but the two months free energy from ATCO definitely swings the balance.

Tik-Tok
12-14-2017, 05:33 PM
Good to know. Thanks!



Agreed but the two months free energy from ATCO definitely swings the balance.

Especially during January and February. I'm going to switch and crank my garage furnace up to 20*C :angel:

NissanFanBoy
12-22-2017, 04:25 PM
I'm going to switch too, fuck Enmax... So it's just as easy as going onto Atco's website? I won't get screwed over by Enmax on some BS cancellation fee?

ricosuave
12-22-2017, 10:01 PM
I'm going to switch too, fuck Enmax... So it's just as easy as going onto Atco's website? I won't get screwed over by Enmax on some BS cancellation fee?
Would also like to know

phreezee
12-23-2017, 11:09 AM
Already got my credit! Lowest bill of the year :)

NissanFanBoy
12-23-2017, 02:29 PM
Already got my credit! Lowest bill of the year :)

How, thought it was for Jan and Feb????

NissanFanBoy
12-23-2017, 04:06 PM
I am on Easymax but have floating rates for both gas and electricity. ENMAX website says I need to give them 30-day notice to cancel, whatever that means. Can I still switch to ATCO effective Jan. 1?

Just confirmed with Enmax, I have a 30 day cancellation period too...it will work out to less than $100 in immediate savings for the 2 months.

After that, it's anyone's guess who would cost more. I think Atco has to make up for all this somehow, maybe in their fees and other bullshit charges...decided not to do it.

Tik-Tok
12-28-2017, 01:44 PM
Just a reminder to anyone who was procrastinating, this offer is over at midnight tonight.

Glad I remembered today, lol. Turning my hottub back up to 102*F, and my garage furnace to 20*C!

cloud7
12-28-2017, 04:50 PM
Just a reminder to anyone who was procrastinating, this offer is over at midnight tonight.

Glad I remembered today, lol. Turning my hottub back up to 102*F, and my garage furnace to 20*C!

I did my change over to ATCO online and it was super easy. I picked their flex rates for both electricity and gas. I see from my ENMAX account today that I no longer have electricity and gas with them, so the actual switch over is completed today as promised by ATCO.

When does the free energy kicks in? Is it the energy you used during the months of January and February?
If so, then maybe wait a few days before turning things up?

Tik-Tok
12-28-2017, 04:55 PM
I did my change over to ATCO online and it was super easy. I picked their flex rates for both electricity and gas. I see from my ENMAX account today that I no longer have electricity and gas with them, so the actual switch over is completed today as promised by ATCO.

When does the free energy kicks in? Is it the energy you used during the months of January and February?
If so, then maybe wait a few days before turning things up?

Did you have to cancel the previous providers yourself, or do they do it for you?

redline
12-28-2017, 07:10 PM
I switched , try it out for a yr and see how it goes, can reallly go wrong for a year.

The fees for delivery is all rate regulated so they will not vary greatly between providers. Most of the money goes to who. Ever owns the infrastructure. Ie enmax for electricity and ATCO for gas.

The Cosworth
12-28-2017, 07:18 PM
Just FYI for everyone



Welcome to ATCOenergy Chat. An agent will be with you shortly.
Conversations may be monitored for quality.

Cos: Do you guys take credit card payment? Currently with Enmax and that is a big positive.

Marvin:Hello Cos, we do take credit card payments

Cos: Awesome thanks marvin
one last question if I can while I have you
Is the deal possible on the RRO rate or just whatever Atco deems the 'floating' rate that month?
I only ask because it seems like atco electric floating is less than enmax, but Nat Gas floating is a lot more from Atco just based on the crappy online charts. (thanks goldfish168 ;) )

Marvin: The promotion is for both our guaranteed and variable rates only

Cos: gotcha thanks. I imagine the variable rates are set in house by some internal trading team? I.E. they can and would fluctuate to what Enmax, Bullfrog, Direct energy would offer as 'variable' as well?

Marvin: That is correct, they keep it as competitive as possible and as reasonable as they can

Cos: Gotcha, thanks for the time. Happy new year to you.


So what that tells me is they will / can make their variable just high enough that you pay it back, but aren't overly annoyed. Or they'll have low enough rates to make Enmax re-adjust. Either way, good for the consumer.

NissanFanBoy
12-28-2017, 08:14 PM
Hmmm, I still don't trust the deal lol...I got a few hours to think about it...

Seth1968
12-28-2017, 08:35 PM
Hmmm, I still don't trust the deal lol

I don't either.

NissanFanBoy
12-28-2017, 09:22 PM
I don't either.

Lol not sure if you're serious....but for me, they told me I had to give 30 days notice to Enmax, so I will only get half of the deal and I just have a feeling Atco will make up all the savings in all those other B.S. charges that aren't included in the "Free"...

Tik-Tok
12-28-2017, 09:45 PM
Lol not sure if you're serious....but for me, they told me I had to give 30 days notice to Enmax, so I will only get half of the deal and I just have a feeling Atco will make up all the savings in all those other B.S. charges that aren't included in the "Free"...

I fully expect to pay about the same for the 12 month term in total, as I did with Enmax in previous years. However I'm OK with that as Jan/Feb are the worst months for me pay cheque wise, so I don't mind deferring the cost to March through December.

I'm also expecting to still have to pay the taxes/carbon levy on that "free" energy.

Seth1968
12-28-2017, 09:49 PM
Lol not sure if you're serious....but for me, they told me I had to give 30 days notice to Enmax, so I will only get half of the deal and I just have a feeling Atco will make up all the savings in all those other B.S. charges that aren't included in the "Free"...

I'm serious. That's why earlier in the thread I said:


Atco or Enmax...it doesn't matter.

As time goes on, you'll pay about the same amount regardless of which one you choose.

Tik-Tok
02-14-2018, 06:28 PM
Just got my first bill from them, it's a little difficult to compare bills, since I don't know what the 2018 delivery charges (etc.) are for all 3 companies, but in comparison to my December bills before I switched.

Gas (vs Direct Energy Regulated Services)
Fixed delivery charge is $5 more
Variable delivery charge is the same per GJ
Rate Rider is $15 more
Municipal Franchise Fee is $7 more

Electricity (vs Enmax)
Distribution Charge is $4 more
Transmission Charge is $3 more
Rate Riders is $5 more
Local Access Fee is $3 more

So if this stays about the same, it will cost $500 a year MORE to be with ATCO Energy, but as I said, this is December VS January numbers, so I'm not entirely sure.

Either way, I'm clawing back a whole lot of that. I used 32GJ of "free" gas in January keeping my house at 23*C and triple garage a nice balmy 20*C :rofl: