Sign Petition - Trans Mountain Pipeline

[swak]

This BC Regulations crap is really getting out of hand... Sign the below petition E-1509 in support of the Trans Mountain Pipeline project.

"We, the undersigned, citizens and residents of Canada, call upon the Government of Canada to use Section 92.10(c) of the Constitution Act to declare, via the Parliament of Canada, that the expansion of the Trans Mountain pipeline project is for the general advantage of Canada." (copied from link below)

SIGN PETITION AT LINK BELOW:

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-1509

[Redlined_8000]

Signed

[Gestalt]

Alberta govt doesnt share royalties so its not and advantage to canada.

They barely take royalty in alberta, sonits a disadvantage here considering we now owe more for clean up and remediation than we have ever made.

[dirtsniffer]

You must be one of the dumbest people breathing

[ExtraSlow]

Not dumb, just very ideological.

[vengie]

done

[speedog]

Related - Motorists flocking to Washington state to flee Metro Vancouver gas prices (http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/motorists-flocking-to-washington-state-to-flee-metro-vancouver-gasoline-prices).

[g-m]

Alberta govt doesnt share royalties so its not and advantage to canada.

They barely take royalty in alberta, sonits a disadvantage here considering we now owe more for clean up and remediation than we have ever made.

So how much do we owe and how much have we collected for royalties?

[Gestalt]

Interesting news today. first we had new york suing big oil for environmental damage, today Arnold anounces the same saying it's like smoking, and they knew it was killing us 50 yearsa ago and hid it.

Will alberta be sued for billions in the near future? Who will pay?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/12/arnold-schwarzenegger-sxsw-trump-big-oil-me-too-217345

[vengie]

Interesting news today. first we had new york suing big oil for environmental damage, today Arnold anounces the same saying it's like smoking, and they knew it was killing us 50 yearsa ago and hid it.

Will alberta be sued for billions in the near future? Who will pay?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/12/arnold-schwarzenegger-sxsw-trump-big-oil-me-too-217345

Also related, Arnold's car collection... Interesting.
https://www.thrillist.com/cars/the-beastly-car-collection-of-arnold-schwarzenegger

[Gestalt]

Also related, Arnold's car collection... Interesting.
https://www.thrillist.com/cars/the-beastly-car-collection-of-arnold-schwarzenegger

And after slandering big tobacco, he smokes cigars. :facepalm:

https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/spl1210353_029.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

[Tik-Tok]

Also related, Arnold's car collection... Interesting.
https://www.thrillist.com/cars/the-beastly-car-collection-of-arnold-schwarzenegger

He's suing for lack of warning labels. Caliphoney loves them some warning labels. It also kind of makes sense that as long as you are well informed to the dangers of a product, you are still free to use it, knowing the risk. Rather than just banning it altogether.

[Gestalt]

I figured out qhy Trudeau is supporting foregners like Koch and Kinder with these pipelines.

His family hates Alberta. These big oil legal actions will dwarf big tobacco. Alberta doesnt share resource revenue so when we are liable for billions, the conservative party in Alberta will disapear for 25 years.

[Feruk]

I figured out qhy Trudeau is supporting foregners like Koch and Kinder with these pipelines.

His family hates Alberta. These big oil legal actions will dwarf big tobacco. Alberta doesnt share resource revenue so when we are liable for billions, the conservative party in Alberta will disapear for 25 years.

The government of Canada website said the energy industry employs 270,000 people and indirectly supports 600,000 jobs. You don't believe these people pay taxes to the federal government? That website also says government revenues from energy were $12.9B in 2015. You can make a weak argument about not sharing royalties, but if these jobs (directly tied to oil & gas) went away, the revenue Canada sees would massively drop. I'd certainly call that tax revenue as resource revenue.
https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/energy/facts/energy-economy/20062

[ExtraSlow]

Nope, all a sham, all oil jobs are a net negative for the federal government and the economy.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Feruk and ExterSlow you shills dont undertand echonomics.

[ExtraSlow]

Feruk and ExterSlow you shills dont undertand echonomics. I understand the economics of unemployment anyway.

[Gestalt]

Whats unemployment rate in places thats dont rely on oil and gas? Do people give up and do nothing? Oil and gas is a crutch. It has a heavy oppirtunity cost.

Its not a simple binary dominant class social construct. Oil no oil. Jobs no jobs.

My wife told me to say that and its perfectly rational.

[austic]

Signed.. I support Canadian Oil and Gas as the best alternative on the market.

[J-hop]

Whats unemployment rate in places thats dont rely on oil and gas? Do people give up and do nothing? Oil and gas is a crutch. It has a heavy oppirtunity cost.

Its not a simple binary dominant class social construct. Oil no oil. Jobs no jobs.

My wife told me to say that and its perfectly rational.

That’s a pretty narrow sighted view. All economies in the world rely either directly or indirectly on natural resources.

Take your solar energy example. Some regions will focus their economy manufacturing the batteries because they don’t have the minerals readily available to mine. While another regions will focus their economy around mining the materials.

What you are saying is the current equivalent of those economies who have focused their economy around mining the materials are idiots using mining as a crutch. That is obviously silly because if region 1 doesn’t mine region 2 can’t manufacture batteries and additionally region 3 can’t manufacture solar panels because the don’t have a storage solution.

Currently the world revolves around oil and gas whether you like it or not.

[killramos]

I like oil. Hydrocarbons are the solution to all problems.

My current hydrocarbon solution to a problem? I really want a propane torch to deal with all the global cooling that’s going on in my alley.

It’s really getting in the way of me being able to burn more hydrocarbons to go fast.

[Gestalt]

Looks like alberta tax payers before legal action will be sitting on 2 trillion

2 trilllion

In liability

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/01/31/news/big-five-albertas-oilpatch-suspected-sitting-2-trillion-liability

[dirtsniffer]

The report says the carbon liabilities — that is, the social cost of the carbon pollution that will come from developing their fossil fuel reserves — of the “big five” firms, based on a conservative estimate of $50 per tonne, is $320 billion, outweighing the whole of Alberta’s GDP, which it pegs at $309 billion.

In a scenario where polluters were paying $200 per tonne of carbon emissions, that liability would add up to $1.99 trillion based on their proven and probable reserves of oil and gas, according to the study.

hahahahahahahahhahahhahahhahaha ahhhhhhhhahahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahahahahahhaha

and it clearly states that it would be end users who pay the carbon liability anyway. so the source doesn't mean shit. If you want to see this for what it really is, look at how much money the government is about to steal from us in terms of taxes.