Calgary chef Michael Noble charged with sexual assault

[Impreza]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/michael-noble-sexual-assault-1.4647429

[suntan]

Young pussy is what makes the food taste better.

[rage2]

Hopefully notable won't be as busy anymore so I can actually get a table on a Friday night.

[Maxt]

Well that's a not great way to make yourself notable..

[adamc]

damn. why you gotta be a creepy 56 year old going after 21 year old girls like that?

hire a fucking escort

[JRSC00LUDE]

damn. why you gotta be a creepy 56 year old going after 21 year old girls like that?

hire a fucking escort

RIP Backpages, your absence is notable.

[lilmira]

He misunderstood the metoo movement

[bigbadboss101]

Hopefully notable won't be as busy anymore so I can actually get a table on a Friday night.


NO Table.... on Friday night!

[Xtrema]

https://globalnews.ca/news/4185759/calgary-chef-michael-noble-sexual-assault-charge-employee/


Balfour Der, the defence lawyer Noble retained upon learning in the last day or two he would be facing a criminal charge, said Noble was surprised by the accusation and “absolutely” refutes the claim.

Is it me or if you see Balfour Der defending you, you are already guilty in public opinion?

[ExtraSlow]

He's the Lincoln lawyer of Calgary for sure, but that's the nature of high-profile defense lawyers. People who require high-profile defense lawyers are usually found guilty in the court of public opinion.

[Darkane]

He's the Lincoln lawyer of Calgary for sure, but that's the nature of high-profile defense lawyers. People who require high-profile defense lawyers are usually found guilty in the court of public opinion.

I grew up with Balfour’s son. Balfour has definitely gained a lot of (good and bad) publicity. He is good at his job though.

Balfour Spectre

[Tik-Tok]

I've never heard his name in a good context.

[NissanFanBoy]

Whatever happened to that sports chiropractor downtown that got accused of assault? My wife worked at that office briefly and never thought he was creepy..

[ercchry]

I've never heard his name in a good context.

You mean... besides his food?

This sucks... cause the Nash is easily some of my favourite food in town

[Tik-Tok]

You mean... besides his food?

This sucks... cause the Nash is easily some of my favourite food in town

I meant Balfour Der

[killramos]

You guys memorize the names of local defense lawyers?

:rofl:

[Darkane]

You guys memorize the names of local defense lawyers?

:rofl:

He’s Calgary’s go to.

[killramos]

I guess I don’t read nearly enough tabloids.

[rage2]

I’ve had rich shady friends use him way back in the day. He’s the go to guy if you have a ton of cash and want the best chance of beating charges. Been that way for a long ass time in Calgary.

[Tik-Tok]

You guys memorize the names of local defense lawyers?

:rofl:

Just his. A friend used him 20 years ago to defend a DUI, he did pretty much no work, lost the case, and still charged $8g. After that I started noticing his name in every article where some complete scumbag was on trial.

[msommers]

As soon as I saw Balfour's name on the news this evening, I figured he must be guilty and trying to buy his way out of this. Basically any high-profile case in Calgary uses Balfour for defence - this is common knowledge.

[Maxx Mazda]

Anyone else hear the audio of his staff meeting today? Guy sounds guilty as fuck.

[lasimmon]

Just his. A friend used him 20 years ago to defend a DUI, he did pretty much no work, lost the case, and still charged $8g. After that I started noticing his name in every article where some complete scumbag was on trial.

These days I'd be shocked you get a decent lawyer for 8g on a DUI.

[D'z Nutz]

Anyone else hear the audio of his staff meeting today? Guy sounds guilty as fuck.

Details? Or a link?

[Gestalt]

Whole charge rests on him being a person in authority? Really? A restsurant owner? :rofl:

Weve entered an era where a man of any social class can only go after women of equal or higher class. :nut:

Its going to get tossed. The authorities argument only works if she was under age. Soliciting for more accusers is defamation. Every easy waitress who didnt get the raise next day will be looking for an easy paycheck

[ZenOps]

Yeah, so does this mean that if someone is a sixty year old retiree it is acceptable to go after 21 year olds?

[bigbadboss101]

Wonder what his other staff members think of him. Creepy? Victim because he is a big name? Hmmm.

[Tik-Tok]

Weve entered an era where a man of any social class can only go after women of equal or higher class. :nut:



No, we've left an age where a man can force himself on a woman in the womans washroom, just because he's in a position of authority over her.

[Gestalt]

Yeah, so does this mean that if someone is a sixty year old retiree it is acceptable to go after 21 year olds?

Is there an age limit? Relationships like trumps with an age spread are illegal? Hef? Who makes these rules?

[ExtraSlow]

No, we've left an age where a man can force himself on a woman in the womans washroom, just because he's in a position of authority over her.this is all an overreaction and it's infringing on our rights to access sex from people we have economic power over.

[J-hop]

Yeah, so does this mean that if someone is a sixty year old retiree it is acceptable to go after 21 year olds?

Asking for a friend?

[Gestalt]

this is all an overreaction and it's infringing on our rights to access sex from people we have economic power over.

Infringing on womens rigjts to marry for money? Deny them to get to the front of the line with a bj for a promotion?

Oh thats right. Women never instigate . flirt or have buyers remorse.

Sounds like she flirted, he made a move, she shoved him away. Shocked.

[Maxx Mazda]

Details? Or a link?

CTV had it on the 6 o clock news last night. They “had obtained a hidden audio recording.”

Basically, he says he wants everyone to feel safe blah blah, but then says something to the effect of none of his interactions with that employee were without consent. He doesn’t deny that the actions took place.

[killramos]

Fucking Chads and Stacy’s eh

[asp integra]

Both his restaurants are really good, nash and notable.
As soon as I heard this I figured disgruntled employee/someone looking for a quick pay day. I am interested to see how this plays out

[Rocket1k78]

https://globalnews.ca/news/4185759/calgary-chef-michael-noble-sexual-assault-charge-employee/

Is it me or if you see Balfour Der defending you, you are already guilty in public opinion?

He couldve went public defender or whatever the free lawyers are called and he'd still be guilty to the public. I totally agree though, hiring Belfour will make him look worse but we all know hes won this case because of him lol
I know what the news is doing is legal but this is crazy they can do that, guilty or not this will cause major damage to him even if he is innocent.

[sneek]

No, we've left an age where a man can force himself on a woman in the womans washroom, just because he's in a position of authority over her.

There is no mens or womens bathroom at Subrosa from what I recall. Most of it is mixed mens/womens but they are all stalls and then there is a general area for the sink.

[Tik-Tok]

Most of Bill Cosby's friends and family were happy with him too...

[JRSC00LUDE]

I always laugh that people are crucified for hiring as good a defense lawyer as they possibly can. Like you'd do any different if you found yourself up on serious charges.

[Sugarphreak]

...

[suntan]

He was checking the spice drawer for freshness.

[Darkane]

Fucking Chads and Stacy’s eh

#incel4everalone

[Gestalt]

Does anybody know what sexual assault actually means in this context? Did he pull it out or something?

Usually touch. So grabed her by the pussy, or ass, tatas etc.

[rage2]

Usually touch. So grabed her by the pussy, or ass, tatas etc.
Nah, the definition is pretty broad. Definition is unwanted sexual act, and you can be charged for an unwanted hug or kiss. Hugs and kisses are pretty grey area.

http://nationalpost.com/news/is-an-unwanted-hug-and-kiss-sexual-assault-not-always-judge-rules-in-trial-of-ex-yukon-mla

Non grey area is fondling, intercourse, etc.

I still find it annoying that there's so much legal grey area and interpretation when it comes to some parts of sexual assault where it can be used against someone (not saying that's the case here). Take me for example. 8 years ago at a company xmas party, I kissed a co-worker without asking. It could've gone either way because I didn't ask to see if she actually wanted a kiss. Thankfully, it wasn't unwanted, and we're now a family of 5. It could easily have gone the other way and put me in a similar situation as Noble and fucked my entire career up.

I guess I could've asked first, but yea pretty sure I'd be an incel with a GT3 RS if I asked before making any move.

[max_boost]

Half of the good looking female staff is probably on Seeking Arrangement anyway. He should have just went that route.

Anyway, not sure what to make of this. Will see how it unfolds?!

[killramos]

Nah, the definition is pretty broad. Definition is unwanted sexual act, and you can be charged for an unwanted hug or kiss. Hugs and kisses are pretty grey area.

http://nationalpost.com/news/is-an-unwanted-hug-and-kiss-sexual-assault-not-always-judge-rules-in-trial-of-ex-yukon-mla

Non grey area is fondling, intercourse, etc.

I still find it annoying that there's so much legal grey area and interpretation when it comes to some parts of sexual assault where it can be used against someone (not saying that's the case here). Take me for example. 8 years ago at a company xmas party, I kissed a co-worker without asking. It could've gone either way because I didn't ask to see if she actually wanted a kiss. Thankfully, it wasn't unwanted, and we're now a family of 5. It could easily have gone the other way and put me in a similar situation as Noble and fucked my entire career up.

I guess I could've asked first, but yea pretty sure I'd be an incel with a GT3 RS if I asked before making any move.

The nuts thing is it doesn’t end all of a sudden because you are married (don’t need to explain to you how nasty women get during divorce), better keep asking.

I have a friend who is going through that scenario right now... it’s messed up.

We have swung way too far on the pendulum, the incels might have it right in that the only way to be safe is celibacy :nut:

[Mitsu3000gt]

These days I'd be shocked you get a decent lawyer for 8g on a DUI.

My RCMP friends tell me it's about $15K to buy yourself out of a DUI with a BAL "expert". It's a regular source of frustration for them.


RE: Belfour Der - I'm surprised people think hiring him suggests you're guilty. If you were innocent but charged with something you didn't do, there would be an even stronger desire to clear you name, and the obvious way to do that would be hiring the best defense lawyer possible. The absolute last thing you would want to do is have faith in the justice system and cheap out on the lawyer.

[dirtsniffer]

I actually just learned that the government of alberta decriminalized most DUIs in order to maintain the instant 3 month license suspension. Last year the courts said they couldn't punish people before a criminal trial - conviction. so they took that part out. Still need to wait three months and get interlock. but i have to assume that the cost has gone way down. and no criminal record.

But to be clear the government can still charge you criminally, they just have to let you drive until you go to court.. crazy eh

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/drunk-driving-laws-decriminalize-2018-changes-police-licence-1.4468021

[Sugarphreak]

...

[Mitsu3000gt]

I have a friend that used to be a chronic drinker-driver, which is pretty easy to get away with in small towns when all they do is give you warnings. He got busted a few years ago and he was telling me that it cost him over 25K when it was all said and done. He isn't somebody that has 25K lying around either, his wife was super angry. I think the lawyer costs were around 18K. On the plus side, he doesn't ever drink and drive anymore, haha. I guess that is what it takes for some people to get the message, so I am not against it.


RE: RE: Belfour Der - You'd be crazy not to hire the best lawyer you can afford, guilty or not... getting a good lawyer is definitely not an admission of guilt.


Yeah you can buy yourself out, but like in your example, most of these people aren't rich and the cost to have the charge dropped/reduced is a sizable (but far from appropriate) punishment for a lot of them. The RCMP officers I know all work in small towns in Northern AB and there is absolutely zero tolerance for DUI. Many of the residents however seem to think certain laws (especially things like traffic signs, seat belts, public intoxication, drugs, etc.) don't apply to them because it's a small town and various tickets/charges regularly show them otherwise haha.

And yeah...wtf does hiring a good lawyer have to do with people's perception of guilt. I don't understand that one. If innocent, the need for the best lawyer is even higher when fighting a charge. The worst thing a justice system can possibly do is put an innocent person in jail.

[dirtsniffer]

^ I think you should read my post. The provinces appetite for pursuing criminal DUI charges has diminished.

:hijack:




In Alberta, impaired driving prosecutions take up 40 per cent of trial time in provincial court; cases can be complicated, often involve charter challenges, are defended by specialized lawyers and routinely appealed



total cost now is a $1000 fine + ~$200 a month for interlock for 1 year.

[Gestalt]

Nah, the definition is pretty broad. Definition is unwanted sexual act, and you can be charged for an unwanted hug or kiss. Hugs and kisses are pretty grey area.

http://nationalpost.com/news/is-an-unwanted-hug-and-kiss-sexual-assault-not-always-judge-rules-in-trial-of-ex-yukon-mla

Non grey area is fondling, intercourse, etc.

I still find it annoying that there's so much legal grey area and interpretation when it comes to some parts of sexual assault where it can be used against someone (not saying that's the case here). Take me for example. 8 years ago at a company xmas party, I kissed a co-worker without asking. It could've gone either way because I didn't ask to see if she actually wanted a kiss. Thankfully, it wasn't unwanted, and we're now a family of 5. It could easily have gone the other way and put me in a similar situation as Noble and fucked my entire career up.

I guess I could've asked first, but yea pretty sure I'd be an incel with a GT3 RS if I asked before making any move.

This is my entire probelm with the metoo movement. wife and I were the same, I never asked or had a contract drawn up or consutled a lawyer. Even worse before i met her when i was online dating (ha my username was uvedoneworse). Asking permission before "making a move" was a sureway to be looked at as a wuss and for sure you are getting passed over for the more assertive man.

anyway, cursious to see what happens. but its dumb and annoys me (especially that ansari guy who was obviously chased by a groupie, and then chastized for essentially having no game lol. or james franco, pulls his cock out in fornt of a girl he dated, she sucks it, then complains of the "power imbalance." Are women equal and independant, or lemmings to be sheltered?

[Xtrema]

anyway, cursious to see what happens. but its dumb and annoys me (especially that ansari guy who was obviously chased by a groupie, and then chastized for essentially having no game lol. or james franco, pulls his cock out in fornt of a girl he dated, she sucks it, then complains of the "power imbalance." Are women equal and independant, or lemmings to be sheltered?

All future pairing will be done via Facebook and contracts, decided by our overlord Zuckerberg.

[thinmyster]

He misunderstood the metoo movement

He's too old. Back in his day it was the pound symbol not a hashtag. He literally thought it was PoundMeToo.

-Owen Benjamin

[rage2]

All future pairing will be done via Facebook and contracts, decided by our overlord Zuckerberg.

81900

[sabad66]

All future pairing will be done via Facebook and contracts, decided by our overlord Zuckerberg.

Reminds me of Black Mirror "Hang the DJ" episode

[phil98z24]

Whole charge rests on him being a person in authority? Really? A restsurant owner? :rofl:

Weve entered an era where a man of any social class can only go after women of equal or higher class. :nut:

Its going to get tossed. The authorities argument only works if she was under age. Soliciting for more accusers is defamation. Every easy waitress who didnt get the raise next day will be looking for an easy paycheck

Where does it say any of that? It says it’s a concern when someone in a position of authority does this, not that he was charged because of it.

[vengie]

The only issue I have with all of this is the fact the media has published his name all over the paper before being proven guilty in court.
IF he is found guilty, rake him over the coals.

However, guilty or not, because of the media he will forever have this dark cloud following him.

Innocent until proven guilty.

[phil98z24]

Usually touch. So grabed her by the pussy, or ass, tatas etc.

Another professionally worded assessment of a situation, the circumstances of which you aren’t privy to. Good work.

[Mitsu3000gt]

The only issue I have with all of this is the fact the media has published his name all over the paper before being proven guilty in court.
IF he is found guilty, rake him over the coals.

However, guilty or not, because of the media he will forever have this dark cloud following him.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Such is the problem with all the allegations in the "me too" movement and the like. Maybe they did it, maybe they didn't, but how about we don't ruin people's lives and careers permanently before a court decides. Given this, the power these women have is astonishing. Don't like someone? Toss an allegation their way and ruin their life. Too bad there are no restrictions on the media in cases like this.

[max_boost]

Reminds me of Black Mirror "Hang the DJ" episode

So good! And I wouldn’t mind it at all. App and done haha

[Gestalt]

Such is the problem with all the allegations in the "me too" movement and the like. Maybe they did it, maybe they didn't, but how about we don't ruin people's lives and careers permanently before a court decides. Given this, the power these women have is astonishing. Don't like someone? Toss an allegation their way and ruin their life. Too bad there are no restrictions on the media in cases like this.

how else are they going to locate more morning regret accusers if they dont advetrise he's fair game for metoo

[tonytiger55]

I was listening to the CBC interview this morning with the lawyer.
Some valid points, Why destroy his reputation before trail..?
Interesting to see where this goes.

[Mitsu3000gt]

how else are they going to locate more morning regret accusers if they dont advetrise he's fair game for metoo

That is the sad reality, and perhaps more importantly it cheapens the accusations of the real victims (not saying she isn't, it's just not yet proven either way) which is the other big issue. Many of these cases seem to be he-said-she-said, with the side effect of destroying the accused's life, family, and career without any evidence.

[Swank]

^ :werd: 100%

[Xtrema]

Innocent until proven guilty.

Thanks to social media, we have regressed 200 years and back to mob lynching

[ganesh]

So the authorities almost took 4 months to lay charges on this case. Authorities denying that Noble’s notoriety didn’t play a factor in the investigation or charges. I find it hard to believe. If it was Joe they would have laid the charges in a flash.
However the fact that they charged a well known person means there has to be some truth to this case. Only time will tell.

[Gestalt]

So the authorities almost took 4 months to lay charges on this case. Authorities denying that Noble’s notoriety didn’t play a factor in the investigation or charges. I find it hard to believe. If it was Joe they would have laid the charges in a flash.
However the fact that they charged a well known person means there has to be some truth to this case. Only time will tell.

or they would have laid no charges if it was a nobody if you read the "person with authority" trash

[Rocket1k78]

Thanks to social media, we have regressed 200 years and back to mob lynching

Sad and true, this is modern day salem witch hunting. His reputation is beyond tarnished even if hes innocent

[300havoc]

or they would have laid no charges if it was a nobody if you read the "person with authority" trash

Incorrect. They would have laid charges, they just wouldn't be as prominent in the media. As the owner, he is technically the boss for everyone who works there, hence the "Person of authority." That makes it a bigger deal because they have, in essence, the ability to fire someone if they don't do what the person wants or be treated differently because they declined/accepted advances from that person.

Either way, there is no "Innocent until proven Guilty" in the court of public opinion, and I firmly believe that the media should stay out of court/police business unless there is an actual threat to the public, or the case has been closed and trial is over.

[ercchry]

Incorrect. They would have laid charges, they just wouldn't be as prominent in the media. As the owner, he is technically the boss for everyone who works there, hence the "Person of authority." That makes it a bigger deal because they have, in essence, the ability to fire someone if they don't do what the person wants or be treated differently because they declined/accepted advances from that person.

Either way, there is no "Innocent until proven Guilty" in the court of public opinion, and I firmly believe that the media should stay out of court/police business unless there is an actual threat to the public, or the case has been closed and trial is over.

“Wrongful termination” little different when everyone is an adult... the wording makes it sound like statutory rape

[Gestalt]

Incorrect. They would have laid charges, they just wouldn't be as prominent in the media. As the owner, he is technically the boss for everyone who works there, hence the "Person of authority." That makes it a bigger deal because they have, in essence, the ability to fire someone if they don't do what the person wants or be treated differently because they declined/accepted advances from that person.

Either way, there is no "Innocent until proven Guilty" in the court of public opinion, and I firmly believe that the media should stay out of court/police business unless there is an actual threat to the public, or the case has been closed and trial is over.

BS. no such thing as a restaruant owner as a "person of trust/authority" when it comes to adults. That's for kids. read up on it.

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“Wrongful termination” little different when everyone is an adult... the wording makes it sound like statutory rape

EXACTLY. the cops are over stepping this one, hence why it would easily be tossed in the real world, unless he gets railroaded as part of this meetoo shit, in that fantasy world, anything goes.

[300havoc]

“Wrongful termination” little different when everyone is an adult... the wording makes it sound like statutory rape

The fact that Sexual Assault is such a wide range of things, just like Rage2 alluded to earlier is part of the problem. When 80% of people hear sexual assault they hear "Dragged into the bushes and raped someone," and that is simply not the case. I think at one point the Criminal Code of Canada had it split up into different things, kind of how the states has it, but it got brought together around that one umbrella. I could be wrong on that though.

A Wrongful termination is a whole other legal thing, but hypothetically if I had people that worked for me that didn't put out for me I could phase them out over time with poorer and poorer performance reviews until I had actual grounds to terminate. Then it wouldn't be wrongful termination, since there is a paper trail, made up or otherwise, that supports the firing.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Another professionally worded assessment of a situation, the circumstances of which you aren’t privy to. Good work.

Don't get trapped into "debating" anything with the least knowledgeable, most opinionated troll account on Beyond.

[phil98z24]

BS. no such thing as a restaruant owner as a "person of trust/authority" when it comes to adults. That's for kids. read up on it.

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EXACTLY. the cops are over stepping this one, hence why it would easily be tossed in the real world, unless he gets railroaded as part of this meetoo shit, in that fantasy world, anything goes.

Care to fill us in on the details of this? You’re sure talking shit like you know what’s up with this, so by all means, let’s hear it bud.

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Don't get trapped into "debating" anything with the least knowledgeable troll on Beyond.

Haha, it was an observation. There is nothing to debate about it, lol!

[Gestalt]

Care to fill us in on the details of this? You’re sure talking shit like you know what’s up with this, so by all means, let’s hear it bud.

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Haha, it was an observation. There is nothing to debate about it, lol!

authority in the legal code only comes into play with statutory rape as was already pointed out. The police are making stuff up here, with 2 adults to fit the meetoo agenda. not that a restaurant owner would ever be seen as an authority either.

[300havoc]

authority in the legal code only comes into play with statutory rape as was already pointed out. The police are making stuff up here, with 2 adults to fit the meetoo agenda. not that a restaurant owner would ever be seen as an authority either.

Statutory Rape does not exist in the Criminal Code of Canada.

[Skyline_Addict]

i guess i could've asked first, but yea pretty sure i'd be an incel with a gt3 rs if i asked before making any move.

lol

[Gestalt]

Statutory Rape does not exist in the Criminal Code of Canada.

Call it whatever you want, but it absolutely exiats.


Canada's age of consent. The age of consent to sexual activity is 16 years. In some cases, the age of consent is higher (for example, when there is a relationship of trust, authority or dependency). In other words, a person must be at least 16 years old to be able to legally agree to sexual activity.

A 16 or 17 year old cannot consent to sexual activity if:

their sexual partner is in position of trust or authority towards them, for example their teacher or coach
the young person is dependent on their sexual partner, for example for care or support
the relationship between the young person and their sexual partner is exploitative

Over 17 there is no trust/boss clause.

[g-m]

It's a wonder you are able to draw breath and so proudly waste oxygen every morning

[phil98z24]

authority in the legal code only comes into play with statutory rape as was already pointed out. The police are making stuff up here, with 2 adults to fit the meetoo agenda. not that a restaurant owner would ever be seen as an authority either.

I asked for details of the case, as you seem to know them.

As for the brush up on the law, I’m good. Thanks though!

[JRSC00LUDE]

It's a wonder you are able to draw breath and so proudly waste oxygen every morning

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Gestalt]

It's a wonder you are able to draw breath and so proudly waste oxygen every morning

Another useless troll post by g-m.

PS, almost the entire message is copy pasted from the Canadian Justice website. Are they wrong?

[phil98z24]

Another useless troll post by g-m.

PS, almost the entire message is copy pasted from the Canadian Justice website. Are they wrong?

You going to answer me?