Opinion: Subaru Crosstrek (lifted) as Daily Driver

[Ekliptix]

My current DD is a 2003 BMW X5 IS 4.6L V8.
Love: Power, exhaust sound, massive 315 rear tires look badass, winter traction, looks (blue), comfort, lots of cargo room, was cheap ($12k).
Hate: High insurance, premium gas + guzzler, really expensive tires and wear poorly, maintenance costs can be insane (@160k now).

I've been attracted to Crosstreks because:

~30mpg
Available in 6 speed manual (2018+)
Newer tech
They look super badass with a 1.5" lift and some tires.


The base models are ~$26k new at a dealer. Used ones are low-mid $20k.
I'm aware the power is weak at 150hp.
I already have a 3/4 ton pick up for towing, etc.
I currently live out of town on an acreage so 4x4/awd is a must.

Looking for input, alternatives, etc.

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[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

I have a friend who had a lifted one and he got fed up and traded it for a Colorado ZR-2. He does do a lot of wheeling though which made sense. I rode in his with the lift and bigger tires and I would say it’s the second slowest vehicle I’ve ever been in. My parents had a stock Crosstrek and it was painful going over the coquihalla with four people and ski gear in it. The oil temp hit 130 Celsius in the middle of the winter as we were flat out in third most of the time to keep around 10km/h over the limit.

[revelations]

150hp with massive wheels is a poor combination. If you had the option of adjusting the final drive ratios, like you can in many trucks, sure ... but this isnt realy feasible here.

[npham]

The first thing you listed that you love about your X5 was power. This Crosstrek is literally the polar opposite to your most loved feature about a car. Unless you plan to LS swap the car, it's probably time to search for a different option.

[Mitsu3000gt]

I looked at these when I was shopping because I like the way they look. I don't know how much you care about the driving experience, but what I can tell you is this is one of the most underwhelming cars I have ever driven. It is just so under-powered. You're looking at ~10+ sec 0-60 times when Calgary's altitude sucks another 25HP or so off the already ridiculously underpowered 2.0L. You won't be passing anyone on the highway without a really long time to do so, which IMO boarders on unsafe depending on the areas you drive in most often (if you're on an acreage I assume lots of highway driving). Other than the FRS/BRZ and the Miata, I'm not sure I have ever driven a car that needed a turbo so badly, and the frustrating part is that Subaru is a master of small turbo 4cyl - for the prices you can option these up to, they should be adding a turbo. YMMV of course but I couldn't get over how gutless it was. If you are used to a 4.6L X5 this is going to be a heck of a lot different.

The car mags have similar comments about it, mostly poking fun at how sluggish it is. Apparently the 6MT doesn't help things much as the ratios aren't great (from Motor Trend).

I will say it looks pretty cool with that lift though! I can't imagine what those wheels would do to the already extreme lack of power though - can't be good.

If you want an AWD hatchback that isn't a CUV/SUV though, your options are rather limited. I'd suggest a Forester but I believe they neutered those now as well and there is no longer an XT model (new, anyway).

[Ekliptix]

Wait, I can't have mpgs, awd, and decent power?

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Wait, I can't have mpgs, awd, and decent power?

Yes. Get a base model VA WRX, mine was really good on fuel for a turbo 4 cylinder with all wheel drive. I was averaging about 8.8L/100km 2/3 city 1/3 highway.

[jwslam]

Wait, I can't have mpgs, awd, and decent power?
2019 RDX. Hands down.
I just doubled your budget :rofl:

[The Cosworth]

I hate that Subaru took the FXT out, then made a sweet crosstrek with no turbo option and with only a CVT or a base one with manual and base options. I really really want a turbo manual one and do exactly what you would do to it. Even after all that, I am tempted to buy a base manual one and lift it. Do it so you can blaze a trail around here and I can avoid your mistakes. :rofl:

[redblack]

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[BerserkerCatSplat]

Crosstreks are gutless as hell from the factory, add larger rubber without regearing and that thing will be just fucking awful, not to mention it will probably overstress the shitty CVT if you don't go with the basic-bitch 6MT model.

[ExtraSlow]

Best way to kill fuel economy and acceleration, ESPECIALLY on a smaller vehicle, is lift and larger tires. This thing would probably be good on trails, because you take those slow. It'll be awful on highway, and around town, and get HORRENDOUS fuel economy.

But hey, looks cool, so it sounds like a winner.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Wait, I can't have mpgs, awd, and decent power?

May not be your style but something like a CR-V meets all those criteria now that they are putting the 1.5T in it. Or something like a Kia Sportage SX with the 2.0T. I would take either over a Crosstrek any day and you get acceptable power, great fuel economy, AWD and tons of space. Won't look as cool though :)

[The Cosworth]

Best way to kill fuel economy and acceleration, ESPECIALLY on a smaller vehicle, is lift and larger tires. This thing would probably be good on trails, because you take those slow. It'll be awful on highway, and around town, and get HORRENDOUS fuel economy.

But hey, looks cool, so it sounds like a winner.

You just described every Jeep Wrangler I've ever seen.

[ExtraSlow]

You just described every Jeep Wrangler I've ever seen.

Yes, they are awful.

[Mitsu3000gt]

You just described every Jeep Wrangler I've ever seen.


Yes, they are awful.

I rented a Wrangler Sport last time I was in Hawaii - holy crap was that ever an enormous POS. I had some fun offroading with it though.

[Brent.ff]

Virtually the only good thing is the way it looks. Even 'offroad', its just going to be able to handle the same stuff as when it's stock. A 1.5 inch lift isn't going to change the lack of power, no low-range 4x4, etc..

[tonytiger55]

The Crosstrek just does not have the amount of juice for what you need it for. Dont bother.

Tootling around town, AWD, small/medium size and the odd trip to the mountains makes it just ok. Thats a spefic income level and demographic in Calgary.
Don't bother with the used 5 speed manuals. The ratios are shit. They need a 6th gear pretty bad. The shifter rattles around the same way in my Dads Datsun Sunny back in the 80's. Ive not driven the 6 speed yet, but I don't think thrashing the engine is going to help.

But for your driving, lifted, big wheels... nooooo. I mean your going from a V8 Beema to a basic all round niceness. Thats like going from dating a hot porn star to a east indian chick who just does the starfish in the bedroom. She will do the crazy stuff, but only if you ask on specific snow days.

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But if your willing to sacrifce the bedroom for basic bitch stuff. Then the crosstrek is not bad. I mean you have a another truck for towing. So this could be a good compliment that solves a MPG and AWD problem in terms of basic commuting.

Alternative is pre 2019 Forrester or Outback. They stopped the manuals 2019 onwards. :banghead:
The manuals that are available in other brands like Honda or Mazda are FWD (Dont bother with Mitzubishi, its shit). They also have the same problem in terms of power to weight ratio.

I got the same dillema. Not manuals suv around with decent oooohmph.

Would Audi a Q5 be a option..? I know sod all about these. Maybe someone else can chime in.

[Brent.ff]

reminds me of this:

https://www.rocky-road.com/media/crv-lifted.jpg

[bjstare]

Get a couple-year-old forester XT. Or if you need manual, get an older Forester XT. Or a WRX hatch.

[never]

Do you care about age? I am the same as you living on an acreage out of the city and picked up something for highway driving/commuting last spring. Just like you, I have a 3/4 diesel when needed so I bought a BMW E90 328x to use for all weather commuting. Since I rack up the mileage, I don't bother with newer stuff. The 328 is decent because it's AWD, has enough power to easily pass on the highway, comfy, it's good on gas (my long term average is 8.2L/100km), and was cheap. I didn't bother with a 335 because I would have been more tempted to modify and I already have another car that's more than fast.

I like the used Euro vehicles because they're more solid and great for highway driving...plus when the mileage gets higher, people are scared of them so you can get them relatively cheap.

[ercchry]

colorado with withe denali package and the mini duramax? probably the best compromise

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

colorado with withe denali package and the mini duramax? probably the best compromise

+1 or ZR-2 if you like the looks and want the off-road capability.

[Ekliptix]

I'm appreciating the common message of 'you'll be disappointed with the low power'.
Yea, I'd love a Colorado diesel, but we're talking $40k+, and that's before the ZR2 option. I'm coming from a $12k used BMW SUV, so I'm trying to keep the upgrade at a reasonable cost. I'm not planning on doing a bunch of off roading btw, but some extra ground clearance beyond what a WRX offers would be great.

[never]

I'm appreciating the common message of 'you'll be disappointed with the low power'.
Yea, I'd love a Colorado diesel, but we're talking $40k+, and that's before the ZR2 option. I'm coming from a $12k used BMW SUV, so I'm trying to keep the upgrade at a reasonable cost. I'm not planning on doing a bunch of off roading btw, but some extra ground clearance beyond what a WRX offers would be great.

What do you need the extra ground clearance for? Do you want to go offroad?

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

I'm appreciating the common message of 'you'll be disappointed with the low power'.
Yea, I'd love a Colorado diesel, but we're talking $40k+, and that's before the ZR2 option. I'm coming from a $12k used BMW SUV, so I'm trying to keep the upgrade at a reasonable cost. I'm not planning on doing a bunch of off roading btw, but some extra ground clearance beyond what a WRX offers would be great.

Golf Alltrack. Ground clearance, 6MT or DSG, 180hp, 1.8L Turbo that you can chip/tune if you really wanted, AWD.

[ercchry]

Last day to lease a X1 or X2 for $500/month (zero down)

[Mitsu3000gt]

What do you need the extra ground clearance for? Do you want to go offroad?

He lives on an acreage so I imagine in the winter or if it gets muddy, it's a lot worse than what we get in the city.

+1 on the Golf Alltrack suggestion above, but they are $40K. Not sure how long they've been around for used.

[HiTempguy1]

Golf Alltrack. Ground clearance, 6MT or DSG, 180hp, 1.8L Turbo that you can chip/tune if you really wanted, AWD.

Seems pretty pricey for what he wants though?

Personally, I'd look at going back a bit further and getting into a 2006-2007 Subaru hatch with a lift. Everything you want in the crosstrek, but more power and AFR in Red Deer recently did a bugeye wagon wrx, lifted.

https://i.imgur.com/1gC3pp5.png

Here is a comparison of their MPG:

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=22746&id=35789&id=38694&id=39577

Really not enough to justify worrying about. Only downside with the older one may be NVH. But you do get 175hp and 170tq versus the 154hp and 145tq of the Crosstrek.

[never]

He lives on an acreage so I imagine in the winter or if it gets muddy, it's a lot worse than what we get in the city.

+1 on the Golf Alltrack suggestion above, but they are $40K. Not sure how long they've been around for used.

I live on an acreage too at about 4700 feet. Get a lot more snow than the city and with a decent AWD vehicle and good tires, extra height isn't required. We have had/currently have winter vehicles that were AWD and lowered...on studded winters or just regular winters, haven't ever had any issues. And we had so much snow last year that I bent the crap out of the plow.

Nice thing about an AWD car is they are usually cheaper and get better mileage than SUVs/small trucks. Plus the OP has a truck if things get really bad. Throw on chains and it'll go through anything.

[G-ZUS]

WTF? 150 hp in a modern vehicle?

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

I lifted my 2017 WRX no problem...

[Mitsu3000gt]

WTF? 150 hp in a modern vehicle?

A lot less than that at our altitude. Subaru is one of the few holdouts on competitive engines these days.

[eblend]

Everyone here is either driving a sports car, or has never actually driven one. I got the 2018 last year, about 16 months in now, and it's a perfectly capable vehicle for daily driving, get good gas mileage (I'm at 7.7L/100km in the city) and a ton of features (I got the Limited). Everyone else on the road is going 10km under the speed limit anyways with all the idiots in Calgary....so every day that I drive I feel like I'm driving a sports car haha. I don't do much highway driving but do go out to the mountains and have taken some long roadtrips, and the car was just fine. Unless you want to be a dbag passing everyone at double the speed limit, it does just fine.

I don't know about lifting it, I am sure that would make it worse, but in stock form it's fine, and you will love the ground clearance. I dunno, just my 2c. Ton of people buy these.

[HHURICANE1]

Drove a new Crosstrek with the CVT. What a gutless POS. Wouldn't even consider one unless it's a manual. Like the looks and the ride but it really needs another 20 hp.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

He lives on an acreage so I imagine in the winter or if it gets muddy, it's a lot worse than what we get in the city.

+1 on the Golf Alltrack suggestion above, but they are $40K. Not sure how long they've been around for used.

Sure, at MSRP with all the fees and taxes. But you could probably walk out the door in one for way cheaper.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Sure, at MSRP with all the fees and taxes. But you could probably walk out the door in one for way cheaper.

My brother tried to buy one very recently, none of the dealers wanted to deal - it was essentially MSRP plus all the fees and taxes which are sunk costs regardless. He ended up with a Sportwagon. They are neat vehicles, and almost nobody is making wagons anymore, but they aren't cheap.

[spikerS]

The interior in these is VERY small. Power wise, i found them to be "meh", Baygirl's Focus seems more zippy.

Pretty hard to find them these days, but maybe go on the hunt for one of these, I had one in my youth, and fuck do I regret selling it. Knowing what I know now, I would still have it this day...

http://greenlitemotors.com/listimgs/1/1986-american-motors-amc-eagle-4-wheel-drive-wagon-low-miles-very-clean/1986-american-motors-amc-eagle-4-wheel-drive-wagon-low-miles-very-clean-1.jpg

They handle lifts and bigger tires really well, and with the straight 6, they are easy to maintain and boost power on.

I know you don't mind travelling around for the right vehicle, so, have some fun with it.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/calgary/1981-amc-eagle/1385305553?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

[ExtraSlow]

SpikerS that is badass. Love those.

[lilmira]

Just get the sportwagon instead of the alltrack if you want to save money. It's only an additional 1 1/2" clearance and you'll lose the plastic trim pieces with the sportwagon. We have an alltrack and we picked it for the look mostly. Some serious saving with the sportwagon if you don't care about the difference.

[dimi]

I love the whole crosstrek idea and concept and it fits my lifestyle. However as mentioned the car is completely gutless. Whats the point of awd if the engine struggles to even turn the drive wheels. I would get an old forester with an EJ25 over a crosstrek.

[dirtsniffer]

Buy a half ton. 2014EcoBoost or 2014 6.2 gm should be perfect

[ShermanEF9]

30 mpg from a subaru? even stock i wouldn't go that far. Nochance after you put stupid tires on it.


Buy a half ton. 2014EcoBoost or 2014 6.2 gm should be perfect

what he said.

[ExtraSlow]

Has a truck, should get a second truck. Win!

[shakalaka]

To be honest I have been driving (every now and then) a 2015 Scion xB on the highway's and it got just under 150 HP. I haven't felt that it's particularly slow or anything. Of course can't do short take-overs on single lane highways and I usually just cruise at 120 or so and that's what you're going to do then I am not sure how 150hp is too little. Not sure how the massive tires play into the whole thing but that's my experience with a low powered, FWD, small car. Of course I am not suggesting go for the Scion as it's a completely different car to what you're looking but I am simply commenting on the power - or lack there of aspect that people seem to be commenting on. Is it boring? Of course, but there's nothing wrong with it in being a good daily driver as far as the power part is concerned.

[killramos]

Yes, they are awful.

+1 lol

Need my hellcat swap

[revelations]

Fuck the XC70r used to be decent too:

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/dd/85/b5/dd85b5419d1410050401f9e95f7ad9c1--lifted-cars-volvo-cars.jpg

[dirtsniffer]

2014 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LTZ crew 4x4 (6.2L/Nav/Z71),
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2014-chevrolet-silverado-1500-ltz-crew-4x4-6-2l-nav-z71/1390471114?utm_source=com.google.android.apps.docs&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_android

Price: $.35,500

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

2014 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LTZ crew 4x4 (6.2L/Nav/Z71),
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2014-chevrolet-silverado-1500-ltz-crew-4x4-6-2l-nav-z71/1390471114?utm_source=com.google.android.apps.docs&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_android

Price: $.35,500

I bought a 15’ LTZ Z71 crew 6.5 bed with 52k for $36500 out of Edmonton area two weeks ago. I wouldn’t say that one above is an amazing deal but it’s on the right track.

[never]

Has a truck, should get a second truck. Win!

OP should really just get an H1 as a daily.

[ShermanEF9]

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/dd/85/b5/dd85b5419d1410050401f9e95f7ad9c1--lifted-cars-volvo-cars.jpg

When you're a Geography teacher but still go tanning with the bros

[J-hop]

Everyone here is either driving a sports car, or has never actually driven one. I got the 2018 last year, about 16 months in now, and it's a perfectly capable vehicle for daily driving, get good gas mileage (I'm at 7.7L/100km in the city) and a ton of features (I got the Limited). Everyone else on the road is going 10km under the speed limit anyways with all the idiots in Calgary....so every day that I drive I feel like I'm driving a sports car haha. I don't do much highway driving but do go out to the mountains and have taken some long roadtrips, and the car was just fine. Unless you want to be a dbag passing everyone at double the speed limit, it does just fine.

I don't know about lifting it, I am sure that would make it worse, but in stock form it's fine, and you will love the ground clearance. I dunno, just my 2c. Ton of people buy these.

I don’t have one but I’ve got a 2.5 Impreza which if I remember correctly when I looked it up is a full second faster to 60. Around town I agree it’s fine (except for merging). But man is it ever freaking horrible on the highway. Put a Thule or bikes on top, head into wind and you have to bag the heck out of her up hills (hell I even end up having to bag it up most steep hills even without a Thule on top or wind)

I can confirm everyone complaining about the cross trek being horribly slow is right as someone who drives a very similar but faster Subaru hatch.. and I don’t drive sports cars, my daily right now is an old F-150 (still quicker on the highway than our Impreza!)

[Ekliptix]

I don't know which mod moved this to Truck, 4X4 and off road...This is a discussion about a subaru daily driver for commuting.

[ExtraSlow]

I don't know which mod moved this to Truck, 4X4 and off road...This is a discussion about a subaru daily driver for commuting.

I have a relative who refers to her Acura RDX as "the truck". Drives me nuts.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

I have a relative who refers to her Acura RDX as "the truck". Drives me nuts.

I used to do this with my 4runner, just to piss people off. I didn't even call it "the truck", I just called it truck.

[Brent.ff]

then again people call Ridgeline's a truck......

[heavyD]

Has the OP explained why he would want to lift a car like this? It is really just an underpowered Impreza with a small lift.

[blitz]

I love the whole crosstrek idea and concept and it fits my lifestyle. However as mentioned the car is completely gutless. Whats the point of awd if the engine struggles to even turn the drive wheels. I would get an old forester with an EJ25 over a crosstrek.

I'm in the same boat, with more power I'd be all over one.

We have a '16 Forester XT and had a '11 Forester before that. They don't look as cool, but they'd fit your needs.

[ExtraSlow]

Has the OP explained why he would want to lift a car like this? It is really just an underpowered Impreza with a small lift.

Because. It looks siq brah

[Mitsu3000gt]

Hard to believe that Crosstrek is getting anywhere near 30MPG either when you need to drive it as hard as you do just to keep up with traffic.

Throw a 2.0T in there along with a decent transmission and they would have a real winner IMO.

[revelations]

The reason for the Volvo suggestion is the options available - from lift kits to the LS swap (or keep the inline 5-6 cyl turbo) - have all been done many times.

[spikerS]

Being that he lives out of town, snowfall is probably the biggest concern as those back roads don't get plowed and having a bit of extra clearance can mean getting off his property onto a highway, or home during a daytime storm, or getting out of a ditch.

I still say AMC Eagle wagon.

[eblend]

30 mpg from a subaru? even stock i wouldn't go that far. Nochance after you put stupid tires on it.

what he said.



Hard to believe that Crosstrek is getting anywhere near 30MPG either when you need to drive it as hard as you do just to keep up with traffic.

Throw a 2.0T in there along with a decent transmission and they would have a real winner IMO.

83837

Filled up last on Saturday, been driving 17km each way through construction zones (Live in Evergreen, work around Mount Royal, construction from my house all the way to freaking Rockyview hospital). 7.4-7.8 is usually always where my car is for the last 16 month of my owning it....that's over 30mpg.

So much misinformation in this thread...

[ShermanEF9]

Hand calculate your next 3 tanks and we'll talk. Those are not accurate.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/subaru/crosstrek

It's close to 30, but not quite.

[eblend]

Hand calculate your next 3 tanks and we'll talk. Those are not accurate.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/subaru/crosstrek

It's close to 30, but not quite.

Shouldn't be a problem, I reset my odometer every time I fill up and stop filling the moment it auto stops, not a drop more, so I will update the thread to see how close it is or not. I do a rough calculation in my head every time I fill up as a game to keep me occupied while it fills to see when it will stop, its usually not far off, so would be interesting to see actual results VS the computer.

[revelations]

Shouldn't be a problem, I reset my odometer every time I fill up and stop filling the moment it auto stops, not a drop more, so I will update the thread to see how close it is or not. I do a rough calculation in my head every time I fill up as a game to keep me occupied while it fills to see when it will stop, its usually not far off, so would be interesting to see actual results VS the computer.

You need to go to the same pump at the same gas station to really get accurate numbers like this. Also assuming bone stock setup as well?

[The Cosworth]

You need to go to the same pump at the same gas station to really get accurate numbers like this. Also assuming bone stock setup as well?

But to be really accurate you need to go at the same time of day with roughly the same ambient temperature. The sun can really warm up pumps changing the ratio.......


Come on guys seriously? Everyone knows the computers are off a bit, but it isn't like he said he was getting 4.0L or his computer is showing 12. My computers have always been within 1L to my actual fuelly dashboard. The other options were to get a truck or that a subaru will be 10-11L / 100km. Which even with some error is obvious this is fine.

[revelations]

Different pumps at different stations can have a wide range of where they click stop. You could be getting a Litre extra in one place over another. Its not trivial.

Weather temps within a week should not make too much difference, but differences in SEASONS can - eg, measue mileage in the winter vs. summer

[The Cosworth]

Different pumps at different stations can have a wide range of where they click stop. You could be getting a Litre extra in one place over another. Its not trivial.

Weather temps within a week should not make too much difference, but differences in SEASONS can - eg, measue mileage in the winter vs. summer

1.5% seems pretty trivial to me. The Crosstrek has a 63L tank (16.6 gallon). So if you get 1 extra L (which is probably generous for the first click, it is more based on the filler neck and how it gives back-pressure than the pump itself) that's going to make him swing from 7.5 - 7.7L / 100km.

I just find it funny how everyone is saying this guys car can't be that good, now you're making him measure the gas out. What's next, GPS distance measurement and filling from a verified 10L jerry can to ensure exact fill? Seems kinda over the top considering the context.

[ercchry]

I’m no scientist... but shouldn’t you be tracking kms and the amount of L you put in the tank? Not some arbitrary “click”?

[J-hop]

I believe it, our 2.5i gets ~8L/100km and it has a little over 20 more hp than the cross trek, but the Impreza is lighter so it balances out.

I’ve done the math with receipts L and Kms.

L/100km don’t matter though when a semi truck runs you down because you can’t get up to speed :rofl: (just messin)


I’m no scientist... but shouldn’t you be tracking kms and the amount of L you put in the tank? Not some arbitrary “click”?

Agreed, but I think what they are getting at is when you fill up the next time you don’t know if that extra litre was a litre you burned or a difference in click point.

I agree with cos, from my experience it’s just noise in the calculation

[r3ccOs]

I believe it, our 2.5i gets ~8L/100km and it has a little over 20 more hp than the cross trek, but the Impreza is lighter so it balances out.

I’ve done the math with receipts L and Kms.

L/100km don’t matter though when a semi truck runs you down because you can’t get up to speed :rofl: (just messin)

I just don't get why Subi still offers NA 4cyl motors, the poor interiors are bad enough

I love the formfactor of the crosstrek... be nice if the XTI becomes a real thing

[ercchry]

I just don't get why Subi still offers NA 4cyl motors, the poor interiors are bad enough

I love the formfactor of the crosstrek... be nice if the XTI becomes a real thing

probably cause the n/a cars dont blow up? :rofl:

[J-hop]

I just don't get why Subi still offers NA 4cyl motors, the poor interiors are bad enough

I love the formfactor of the crosstrek... be nice if the XTI becomes a real thing

Man I don’t know. I guess so they can boast some of the most fuel efficient AWD cars and give people a cheaper lower maintenance option.


Another thing I was thinking for the OP, Subaru’s from what I’ve found working on them are pretty low tech. Can you even recalibrate the speedo for the larger tires?

[Ekliptix]

Crosstrek is off my list now. Sounds too slow for me to live with, even for the MPG and looks which were my main interest when lifted.

I'm considering upping my budget to the $40k area, with these 3 as the primary candidates:

2014 Audi A7 TDI S-Line. Holy mpg, comfort and decent speed. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2014-audi-a7-tdi-technik-s-line-awd-navi-b-cam-leather-roof/1393172366
2013 Audi S7. Great power, comfort. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2013-audi-s7-technik/1390927977?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
2017 Colorado diesel. Very practical, and looks killer with a lift. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2017-chevrolet-colorado-z71-w-navigation-backup-camera-diesel/1390472908?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


Ps. Can a mod get this thread back into General Car discussion please?

[ExtraSlow]

The Colorado is a good little truck. Nice highway manners. Very versatile. Not sure about that diesel, but assume it's fine too.thw zr2 package looks great, although probably hurts fuel economy.

[Brent.ff]

Id be curious what the lift is on the Colorado. If it was a dealer lift (which i suspect it was), it's likely just pucks on the springs. Most dealer lifts are garbage from what i've seen (put in a $200 lift, charge $2000 more for it) and make the handling terrible

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Man you could get a brand new ZR-2 diesel for just a few thousand more than that Z71 about a month ago.