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finboy
01-17-2019, 08:58 PM
I am thouroughly enjoying my forester, but since it is tuned for petro 94, it has a limitation It turns out that outside of calgary, finding a petro with 94 is a bit of a trick. I’m looking at doing a road trip to field BC, and I think it might be pushing the range on my car, but with no hope of filling up on the road, I’m looking at other options.

One thought I had was something like a vp fuel jug, but since it is a hatch back I’m a bit worried about having the car reak of fuel for the 2.5 hour drive. Has anyone had experience with these jugs, or have other recommendations? I also looked for a smaller roof box to throw the jug in, but that does mean spending 2-300 for a container that will strictly be used for fuel transport.

Joys of modified cars.

Twin_Cam_Turbo
01-17-2019, 09:01 PM
I just use regular jerry cans to cart fuel into B.C. as long as the seal is good and you aren’t messy with how you use them I haven’t had any issues with fuel smells in the car.

I’m planning to cart an extra 60+L of diesel into B.C. wth me next weekend to hopefully avoid buying any fuel there.

Sentry
01-17-2019, 09:04 PM
Just bring a section of vacuum hose and bypass the boost controller if all you can get is 91. (Hook wastegate straight to turbo nipple)

ExtraSlow
01-17-2019, 09:25 PM
No roof rack on that forester?

finboy
01-17-2019, 09:26 PM
Cross bars but no ski box/rack (I know, where I’d I store all my vape accessories?)

ExtraSlow
01-17-2019, 09:34 PM
Bungee cords and you are all set.

ThePenIsMightier
01-17-2019, 09:53 PM
Don't. I used to fill a j-can and drive home with it in the floor of my passenger seat with zero problems. Then I barely avoided a car accident and realized in anything much more than a small fender-bender you will likely be coated in gasoline and if you're conscious hoping to Hell that your doors still open before a fire starts (from your vape stick) and burns you completely to death. Car fires on modified cars are real.
Plus, there are Chevron gas stations in BC. Lots have 94. The one in Golden does, for sure.

finboy
01-17-2019, 10:26 PM
Also does anyone know if the Cochrane or Canmore Pedro have 94? Their site says no but posts on message boards say yes...

Thaco
01-17-2019, 10:35 PM
Also does anyone know if the Cochrane or Canmore Pedro have 94? Their site says no but posts on message boards say yes...

accordin to the googles. there's no petro in cochrane, and the one in canmore is 91 https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Petro-Canada/@51.1036455,-115.363011,3a,75y/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPKjZWC8xAJ0CJS_o6RxJ8yB700-iT5yvEpuvOz!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPKjZWC8xAJ0CJS_o6RxJ8yB700-iT5yvEpuvOz%3Dw140-h186-k-no!7i3024!8i4032!4m8!1m2!2m1!1spetro!3m4!1s0x0:0x451ebbbfc2a53f55!8m2!3d51.1036432!4d-115.3630114

SKR
01-17-2019, 10:37 PM
Also does anyone know if the Cochrane or Canmore Pedro have 94? Their site says no but posts on message boards say yes...

Cochrane (403) 932-2998, Canmore (403) 678-5644.

Sentry
01-17-2019, 10:47 PM
Cochrane Husky has 94 last I checked.

Tik-Tok
01-17-2019, 10:53 PM
https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/royal-purple-max-boost-octane-booster-fuel-system-stabilizer-0388066p.html#srp

HiTempguy1
01-17-2019, 11:23 PM
There are proper race gas additives out there, not like that royal purple garbage though.

$35-$45 for a can brings 80L of 91 up to 95 octane. Works a dream, tried it on the dyno and it did the trick, allowed us to run more boost and timing.

jutes
01-17-2019, 11:51 PM
My GD STi was tuned for 94 and I had no problem running 91 when I couldn’t find higher octane. Don’t drive around at WOT and you’ll be fine. This is a question you should be asking your tuner anyway.

xrayvsn
01-18-2019, 12:04 AM
My GD STi was tuned for 94 and I had no problem running 91 when I couldn’t find higher octane. Don’t drive around at WOT and you’ll be fine. This is a question you should be asking your tuner anyway.

This.

Ask Airboy if he can make you a 91 octane tune. If you are using an Accessport, it’s pretty easy to switch between tunes.

4WARNED
01-18-2019, 07:56 AM
Also does anyone know if the Cochrane or Canmore Pedro have 94? Their site says no but posts on message boards say yes...

the Petro at the intersection of TC and hwy22 has 94. it may help you stretch the range a little further by filling up west of Calgary (albeit, it's only 15 km out of town)

ThePenIsMightier
01-18-2019, 08:01 AM
My GD STi was tuned for 94 and I had no problem running 91 when I couldn’t find higher octane. Don’t drive around at WOT and you’ll be fine. This is a question you should be asking your tuner anyway.

This really says it all.
The combo of this, the fuel additive option and the fact that 94 is not that scarce solves all your issues.
Do not carry fuel inside your car more than a few hundred meters.

finboy
01-18-2019, 09:39 AM
i do have a 91 map in case of emergency, but google image search confirms that husky at lake louise has 94, success!

Tik-Tok
01-18-2019, 10:47 AM
i do have a 91 map in case of emergency, but google image search confirms that husky at lake louise has 94, success!

Check the image date, and if it's older than a year, call them. Some Huskies recently stopped carrying it.

J-hop
01-18-2019, 10:50 AM
This really says it all.
The combo of this, the fuel additive option and the fact that 94 is not that scarce solves all your issues.
Do not carry fuel inside your car more than a few hundred meters.

Didn’t they do tests and the number of bottles of octane booster you’d have to add to increase the octane rating one point was pretty ridiculous?

Always thought octane booster was just snake oil

Edit: yea searching around its hard to find what say STP claims for their 155ml octane booster bottle but the ranges claimed are between 2-5 points per bottle and a bottle can treat 79 litres.

That means you’d have to put between 4 and 9 bottles of octane booster to bump 50L of 91 to 94. So between $24 and $54 per tank extra.

Tik-Tok
01-18-2019, 11:01 AM
Didn’t they do tests and the number of bottles of octane booster you’d have to add to increase the octane rating one point was pretty ridiculous?

Always thought octane booster was just snake oil

Most boosters are garbage and advertise "3 point increase", which uninformed people equate to 3 octane, but is actually 0.3, lol.

So yes, most of it is snake oil. However some brands actually do increase it enough. It isn't financially worth it unless you're desperate like OP is.

J-hop
01-18-2019, 11:05 AM
Most boosters are garbage and advertise "3 point increase", which uninformed people equate to 3 octane, but is actually 0.3, lol.

So yes, most of it is snake oil. However some brands actually do increase it enough. It isn't financially worth it unless you're desperate like OP is.

Yea edited my post, I estimate between 4-9 bottles of booster to go from 91-94.

There seem to be some home remedies, but if he’s road tripping I’d personally just load the 91 tune. he’ll pick up a ton of fuel economy most likely to boot!

Worst thing would be to rely on a couple pumps and have them either not be 94 when he gets there or other issues (pump problems, lack of supply)

finboy
01-18-2019, 01:56 PM
Check the image date, and if it's older than a year, call them. Some Huskies recently stopped carrying it.

good call, sept 2018

https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x53775d3642d9b3ab%3A0x11d44fe4e047ffa!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipO6E2XvnO9-nVQI2HgsOIsmzKzsKQ5s3ZF618GE%3Dw213-h160-k-no!5slake%20louise%20husky%20-%20Google%20Search&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipPHTaALIGMiKDx7gYh6C4437IbJGgRZLZ8iDAV-&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj72bypjvjfAhUv01kKHd_uA-0QoiowCnoECAUQBg

ThePenIsMightier
01-18-2019, 02:14 PM
Didn’t they do tests and the number of bottles of octane booster you’d have to add to increase the octane rating one point was pretty ridiculous?

Always thought octane booster was just snake oil

Edit: yea searching around its hard to find what say STP claims for their 155ml octane booster bottle but the ranges claimed are between 2-5 points per bottle and a bottle can treat 79 litres.

That means you’d have to put between 4 and 9 bottles of octane booster to bump 50L of 91 to 94. So between $24 and $54 per tank extra.

I might be wrong but I think that High Temp guy has some involvement with racing fuel technologies or something. It was his suggestion.
I doubt it's one you can buy at Crappy Tire and look at his math. It added $0.50/L so it wasn't cheap.

J-hop
01-18-2019, 02:38 PM
I might be wrong but I think that High Temp guy has some involvement with racing fuel technologies or something. It was his suggestion.
I doubt it's one you can buy at Crappy Tire and look at his math. It added $0.50/L so it wasn't cheap.

Missed his post sorry, thought you were referring to ctire octane boosters.

Going to get racing fuel additive seems like a lot of work for a road trip haha

ThePenIsMightier
01-18-2019, 03:41 PM
Missed his post sorry, thought you were referring to ctire octane boosters.

Going to get racing fuel additive seems like a lot of work for a road trip haha

True, but driving a car that can allegedly only run on 94 is a lot of work, so... Taking it in a road trip is maybe going to be a lot of work.
I still she with the guy that said "run 91 and don't drive WOT everywhere".

tonytiger55
01-18-2019, 04:17 PM
Dude your going to the BC wasteland.
I envisage your drive back is gona be like Fury Road.. They gonna chase you down to tax you.

Load up some fuel tanks at the back.. Interceptor style. DOO IT!

84659

Sorry its Friday.. im alone at the office and needed entertains and funnys... carry on...

finboy
01-18-2019, 05:33 PM
Dude your going to the BC wasteland.
I envisage your drive back is gona be like Fury Road.. They gonna chase you down to tax you.

Load up some fuel tanks at the back.. Interceptor style. DOO IT!

84659

Sorry its Friday.. im alone at the office and needed entertains and funnys... carry on...

I mean I could out a “I love Alberta pipelines” sticker on the bumper and relive the final chase scene back to the ab border

Twin_Cam_Turbo
01-18-2019, 07:59 PM
Dude your going to the BC wasteland.
I envisage your drive back is gona be like Fury Road.. They gonna chase you down to tax you.

Load up some fuel tanks at the back.. Interceptor style. DOO IT!

84659

Sorry its Friday.. im alone at the office and needed entertains and funnys... carry on...

This is likely me next weekend when they realize I came through and bought zero fuel. Fill up in Lake Louis, bring 60L of diesel in Jerry Cans and I’m pretty sure I can make it to Big White and back Lake Louis without buying any BC fuel hehe