Is Trump Doing a good job? [Archive] - Beyond.ca - Car Forums

Kobe

02-26-2019, 02:10 AM

I didn't care that much until he started picking a fight with Canada. I mean, why? He is an idiot, I will be happy to see him out of office soon.

As far as the Canadian Government goes, while I wouldn't vote for Trudeau I am pretty indifferent about him as the PM. I thought it would be worse, and honestly he hasn't done anything that bad in my view. Some people seem to feel more strongly about it, but I just don't.

Fuck the NDP though... every last one of them in every province. Those guys can all go die in a fire as far as I'm concerned

Ya before the election i didn't really care, I mean both candidates were going to screw the US in some form IMO...

It's the "TRUMP IS DOING A GREAT JOB" that's been getting to me haha..

Stock markets all time high. I am benefiting so yes.

I hope this is a troll...

dino_martini

02-26-2019, 03:55 AM

The guy is an idiot. From the documentaries and main stream news I have watched I think he will be re-elected unless the Mueller report contains something earth shattering in it.

ZenOps

02-26-2019, 06:57 AM

US debt $22 Trillion. I really don't think it matters who gets top office with that type of debtload. Still, USA is founded on slavery - and it does seem to be working (compared to central and south America)

thinmyster

02-26-2019, 07:35 AM

I would rather have him than Trudeau on my team. I think he will get re-elected.

killramos

02-26-2019, 07:47 AM

Misterman

02-26-2019, 07:49 AM

I usually don't follow politics at all, I try to ALWAYS look at both sides of everything but I'm getting pissed off lately at how brainwashed some of the Trump supporters are.

Are most people in Calgary for or against Trump? I'm really curious if it's just a couple of my friends that just don't understand both sides or if I'm a complete idiot and his actually doing a good job...

Interesting troll play you've made here.

You say you try to look at both sides, and then make a generic statement like "Trump supporters are brainwashed", with a poll that doesn't even have acceptable answers to it. You've basically painted yourself as one of the brainwashed on the other side of the fence.

So if Trump is doing a poor job, what in your opinion is he doing a bad job at? What particular actions has he taken that you disagree with? And how do you feel the alternative option would have done a better job?

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I think the whole do you support Trump thing is a complicated question.

Would I vote for him in a primary? No.

Would I vote for him over Hillary or similar Democrat? Yes, always nice to have a GOP Preaident in the house.

Is trump himself a moron? Yes. Is everything he is doing stupid? No

Considering what kind of verbal diarrhea that is coming from that Ocasio-Cortez lady on a daily basis it’s hard to paint the Democrats as the party of reason. US politics is just 50 shades of ridiculous.

This guy knows what's going on.

HiTempguy1

02-26-2019, 08:19 AM

I think the whole do you support Trump thing is a complicated question.

Would I vote for him in a primary? No.

Would I vote for him over Hillary or similar Democrat? Yes, always nice to have a GOP Preaident in the house.

Is trump himself a moron? Yes. Is everything he is doing stupid? No

Considering what kind of verbal diarrhea that is coming from that Ocasio-Cortez lady on a daily basis it’s hard to paint the Democrats as the party of reason. US politics is just 50 shades of ridiculous.

I voted in the poll, but the "answers" really force you into negative positions that I don't agree with.

I do not like Trump. I think that most major complaints against him are valid, EXCEPT for on his intelligence. He doesn't express himself well, but that doesn't make him an idiot. But I'm also a person who places little value on lip service and all of it on actions.

Trumps actions have benefitted the US (at least short term). I would vote for him for the exact reasons Kill would.

On the flip side, Phreaks liberal side showing itself. Trudeau is fucking this country up, and all you care about is the NDP? Lol.

Trudeau is the bad parts of Trump, plus more awful bits. He is a shallow, arrogant, idiot who has no redeeming qualities besides looking pretty. I still to this day have no idea how such a waste of skin got elected (oh wait, liberal hypocrisy is how it happened, they voted in a sexual assaulting, white privileged male, who had no right to run a country let alone teach a classroom, all because of his name and looks).

ExtraSlow

02-26-2019, 08:37 AM

Those poll options are awful.
So I'll rate trumps performance as a 6/10.

Issues in terms of importance :

#1 priority - Economy - has been a clear success.
#2 priority - External security - moderate success.
Lower priorities have more mixed results. His record on issues of national cohesiveness, international reputation and environmental protection are debatable.

In my mind, his single greatest accomplishment is reducing the legislative and regulatory burden. He has repealed two laws for every one introduced. We need that kind of leadership everywhere worldwide. The great thing about that is leaders of any party affiliation could do this and make their partisans happy and the entire country more competitive.

R!zz0

02-26-2019, 08:39 AM

After he separated the families and their small children, i've lost all respect for him. Mind you, i never respected him to begin with. I'm surprised he hasn't been shot yet.

ExtraSlow

02-26-2019, 08:43 AM

After he separated the families and their small children, i've lost all respect for him. Mind you, i never respected him to begin with. I'm surprised he hasn't been shot yet.
It's not a good look, and you have a lot of pretty racist people enforcing the border and immigration laws. Other leaders would have chosen to step in an "fix" these small issues, but he's playing a longer game on that issue.

Don't imagine any other president would have seen those poor families as anything but political pawns, however. That's all they are, symbols to generate support. Not humans.

Maxx Mazda

02-26-2019, 08:45 AM

After he separated the families and their small children, i've lost all respect for him. Mind you, i never respected him to begin with. I'm surprised he hasn't been shot yet.

You make it sound like he’s just separating people for the hell of it. Do your research man. Many of these “families” aren’t even legitimate to begin with. They were illegal immigrants pretending to be a family unit to enter the United States. They were separated and then interviewed to see if everyone’s stories lined up - guess what, they didn’t.

Trump has done more to improve relations with North Korea in his year in office than any other administration in the last decade as well.

HiTempguy1

02-26-2019, 09:08 AM

Not to mention this isn't new and was happening under Obama.

BerserkerCatSplat

02-26-2019, 09:26 AM

It's also, as I understand it, mandatory to split them up in an effort to combat child trafficking - it gives the trafficked child an opportunity to speak with officials without the "parent" present.

phreezee

02-26-2019, 09:49 AM

He's a meddler and not a free market capitalist.

ExtraSlow

02-26-2019, 09:58 AM

He's a meddler and not a free market capitalist.
There are none of those in positions of power. They are a an extinct creature.

ZenOps

02-26-2019, 10:11 AM

An official apology to Vietnam for meddling - is not out of the question. McCain is gone, and Trump knew how bloodthirsty that generation was. As is now, the USA has really nothing to lose by simply saying sorry. Most of the veterans have passed now.

HiTempguy1

02-26-2019, 10:48 AM

There are none of those in positions of power.

Well, you are technically correct. Because there has literally never been a free market capitalist system ever as far as I am aware, nor someone in the highest positions of power (in North America or Western Europe) who has advocated for it.

That second part though is wrong, if anything they are a unicorn, as they've never existed.

Tik-Tok

02-26-2019, 11:30 AM

I'm really curious if it's just a couple of my friends that just don't understand both sides or if I'm a complete idiot and his actually doing a good job...

Some people only see the economy aspects of government, not the social ones, so they look at the economy (at the surface level) and assume it's all the doing of the current leader and either think they're awesome, or terrible.

ThePenIsMightier

02-26-2019, 11:48 AM

The United States elected (allegedly) a reality TV star of highly questionable character for President. Many of the results they have experienced are not surprising.

Kobe

02-26-2019, 12:10 PM

Interesting troll play you've made here.

You say you try to look at both sides, and then make a generic statement like "Trump supporters are brainwashed", with a poll that doesn't even have acceptable answers to it. You've basically painted yourself as one of the brainwashed on the other side of the fence.

So if Trump is doing a poor job, what in your opinion is he doing a bad job at? What particular actions has he taken that you disagree with? And how do you feel the alternative option would have done a better job?

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This guy knows what's going on.

I am def biased NOW towards the HATE against him, and I do think his an idiot. Before the election I didn't bat an eye.

It hurts me when I try to knock some sense into my mom and she is a TRUMP support, watches FOX 24/7 and tells us how they should deport all the illegals, and I tell her but we illegally came to Canada when I was two years old, should we be deported too?

Her: No we shouldn't we aren't terrorists and killing people.

You she her statistics and she calls it FAKE NEWS.

There is no changing her mind now.

Well for starters his "tweeted" the Dow is all time highs now 3 times (When it crossed 25,000)

Telling them how stocks are doing "Great" your US Stocks aren't doing great.

I don't like how to speaks about others and thinks his the best thing ever.

When he spoke the State of the Union I wrote my friend and said I don't even care if he speaks the truth right now, his doing a good job.

I also don't like how he can NEVER take blame for his actions even if he says he will take full responsibility. (For Example The GOV Shutdown) - Which Ironically is when the stocks started to go up. (During the Gov Shut down)

For next election I don't care if a republican or demo"rat" win, however I hope that someone that isn't manipulating people wins.

I think the whole do you support Trump thing is a complicated question.

Would I vote for him in a primary? No.

Would I vote for him over Hillary or similar Democrat? Yes, always nice to have a GOP Preaident in the house.

Is trump himself a moron? Yes. Is everything he is doing stupid? No

Considering what kind of verbal diarrhea that is coming from that Ocasio-Cortez lady on a daily basis it’s hard to paint the Democrats as the party of reason. US politics is just 50 shades of ridiculous.

I agree with this, I think a lot of his voters at the time had no option it was him or Hiliary, two IMO awful options.

I made this poll for the purpose of wanting to see if he has lost his voters or gained new ones. I assumed the people who disliked him before would kept disliking him,

I was curious to see the results between

Yes - I disliked him before, BUT his doing a GREAT job.

No - I liked him before but I think his doing a horrible Job

I guess it could of been worded differently.

You read a biased news station and they will show you how voters are never voting for him again because of taxes or for whatever reason but I never heard anyone say they disliked him before but they think his a good president.

You make it sound like he’s just separating people for the hell of it. Do your research man. Many of these “families” aren’t even legitimate to begin with. They were illegal immigrants pretending to be a family unit to enter the United States. They were separated and then interviewed to see if everyone’s stories lined up - guess what, they didn’t.

Trump has done more to improve relations with North Korea in his year in office than any other administration in the last decade as well.

You mean Dennis Rodman right? :D

HiTempguy1

02-26-2019, 12:16 PM

Some people only see the economical aspects of government, not the social ones, so they look at the economy (at the surface level) and assume it's all the doing of the current leader and either think they're awesome, or terrible.

And then others look at the social aspects (at a surface level), and assume it's all the current leader's doing, when in reality, most of what is happening now is directly caused by Obama.

Ninja edit, nice.

https://i.imgur.com/0aIz1Ya.jpg

Xtrema

02-26-2019, 12:20 PM

All I know is, authoritarian regimes are doing better than democracies currently.

max_boost

02-26-2019, 12:36 PM

Do you prefer Alexandria Occasio Cortez then? lol

I'm just another dude in this world trying to play the game within the rules that are set out. Perhaps it was the way I was conditioned growing up. STFU and figure out how to make it work for you.

I do thank the SJWs for doing their part because I'm not vocal like that but I hope I'm not around when socialism engulfs NA lol

Kobe

02-26-2019, 01:00 PM

Some people only see the economy aspects of government, not the social ones, so they look at the economy (at the surface level) and assume it's all the doing of the current leader and either think they're awesome, or terrible.

Dow Jones - 32.8%

https://i.gyazo.com/c5432b2257c0fd53eb6962b5d148747d.png

SPX - 23.38%

https://i.gyazo.com/e3955c2b5415aaff63406618076c7a29.png

Amazon - 101.58%

https://i.gyazo.com/6993839fadafb3ac6f39580ad8692590.png

Crude Oil - 9.19%

https://i.gyazo.com/b8491b9f1bfd086533ba14134e2252cd.png

GM (General Motors) - 11.07%

https://i.gyazo.com/ee9085882e8fed1f33224a7ecab05731.png

This is what the news is showing you,

How GREAT your printing on your investments, NEVER Has this happened in the History of any president, he takes full credit like no stock has ever done good. (To me at least)

Now let's take a look at the long-term results of these companies.

Dow Jones

Dow Jones - They made it seem like "Obama (No opinion on him I never did follow him) - made the markets crash and did nothing under him.

https://i.gyazo.com/38963b2ac84c6497ce01a90f0aa80dab.png[bimg]

SPX -

[bimg]https://i.gyazo.com/a12b8c89e5355e9703deda3fffc03fd1.png

Amazon - (Dot Com Bubble clearly visible

https://i.gyazo.com/50f309019b3e6b90ff0b98b23d793253.png

Crude Oil -

https://i.gyazo.com/36c57830a1d09fd8058037655bb39291.png

GM - This is standard GM has never done "well" it's been a swingy ride for them. However he did get an all-time high on it as well. Confirmed.

https://i.gyazo.com/35be71079fae786f28eb64ce0acb6eba.png

Bonds to stocks .

In general bonds are safer and should be going down when stocks are going up. Higher ROI (Return on Investment) when economy is doing well and bonds get sold for Stocks - Common sense.

Dow Jones - https://us.spindices.com/indices/fixed-income/dow-jones-equal-weight-us-issued-corporate-bond-index

I'm not very educated on comparing Bonds to Stocks just know the basics and we are both seeing stocks and Bonds going up currently (Which is not suppose to happen afaik) - as they are suppose to go in different directions.

But when I hear how "stocks are doing GREAT" from others it does start to boil my blood.

Are we making Higher Highs? - Undecided Right now

Are we making lower lows? - Yes?

Bull markets = Higher highs and Higher Lows

Bear Markets= Lower lows and lower highs.

2008 - https://i.gyazo.com/da6850636c16474148d1b827b0b810f1.png

Yes I know that the 200 MA is an indicator as well and we currently have reached above it (Daily), however it's really not far away if someone wants to give me some Technical Analysis information about it.

What I'm trying to say with this post is that the markets have always been a long-term great investment, but people are gullible and believe everything that is told them from who they want.

https://i.gyazo.com/d0a2e6f503bff362a24ce08040db12a2.png

max_boost

02-26-2019, 01:05 PM

But when I hear how "stocks are doing GREAT" from others it does start to boil my blood.

Okay and?

BavarianBeast

02-26-2019, 01:39 PM

The BEST President EVER.

Kobe

02-26-2019, 01:46 PM

Okay and?

Sorry just stating fake News, I apologize. Stocks are at all time highs (Well they are close to it) :)

msommers

02-26-2019, 01:47 PM

He's comin' up bigly. Hard to argue with that.

ZenOps

02-26-2019, 02:07 PM

Brinkmanship is working out so far. That China did not dump a 70,000 ton shipment of soybeans in the ocean is somewhat of a proof.

Economic brinksmanship is just shrewd business to many. And there is no military brinksmanship to speak of - North Korea and Vietnam both may be shaking hands with Trump soon. USA may be turning its gunsights toward Venezuela and Mexico, which is valid IMO.

HiTempguy1

02-26-2019, 02:11 PM

All I know is, authoritarian regimes are doing better than democracies currently.

:Rofl:

Uh, would love to see any evidence to support this ZenOps :rofl:

Xtrema

02-26-2019, 02:20 PM

:Rofl:

Uh, would love to see any evidence to support this ZenOps :rofl:

Ie China.

You can't speak ill of Xi and you can't display anything with anti-government tendency's.

But if the Huawei saga has shown us anything thus far, everybody is bending over backward to appease China.

max_boost

02-26-2019, 02:35 PM

The BEST President EVER.

30k dow. Sell everything and wait for the Dems to crash everything and rebuy lol

Xtrema

02-26-2019, 02:47 PM

30k dow. Sell everything and wait for the Dems to crash everything and rebuy lol

I think it's going to crash regardless who is after Trump.

HiTempguy1

02-26-2019, 03:06 PM

Ie China.

Yes, I know, but its not doing better. You do understand that you can't trust any of the numbers THEY provide world institutions in order to decipher how they are doing economically?

It's all smoke and mirrors. You grossly misunderstand China's economic well being right now.

Misterman

02-26-2019, 03:11 PM

I am def biased NOW towards the HATE against him, and I do think his an idiot. Before the election I didn't bat an eye.

It hurts me when I try to knock some sense into my mom and she is a TRUMP support, watches FOX 24/7 and tells us how they should deport all the illegals, and I tell her but we illegally came to Canada when I was two years old, should we be deported too?

Her: No we shouldn't we aren't terrorists and killing people.

You she her statistics and she calls it FAKE NEWS.

There is no changing her mind now.

Well for starters his "tweeted" the Dow is all time highs now 3 times (When it crossed 25,000)

Telling them how stocks are doing "Great" your US Stocks aren't doing great.

I don't like how to speaks about others and thinks his the best thing ever.

When he spoke the State of the Union I wrote my friend and said I don't even care if he speaks the truth right now, his doing a good job.

I also don't like how he can NEVER take blame for his actions even if he says he will take full responsibility. (For Example The GOV Shutdown) - Which Ironically is when the stocks started to go up. (During the Gov Shut down)

For next election I don't care if a republican or demo"rat" win, however I hope that someone that isn't manipulating people wins.

I agree with this, I think a lot of his voters at the time had no option it was him or Hiliary, two IMO awful options.

I made this poll for the purpose of wanting to see if he has lost his voters or gained new ones. I assumed the people who disliked him before would kept disliking him,

I was curious to see the results between

Yes - I disliked him before, BUT his doing a GREAT job.

No - I liked him before but I think his doing a horrible Job

I guess it could of been worded differently.

You read a biased news station and they will show you how voters are never voting for him again because of taxes or for whatever reason but I never heard anyone say they disliked him before but they think his a good president.

You mean Dennis Rodman right? :D

Once again, this is a lot of complaining without anything to back it up. The few actions you have listed you seem to have very little grasp or understanding of. And then you're accusing your mother of being ill informed right leaning, but you're equally as ill informed and left leaning. You're no better than her, and equally unwilling to look at the other side of the argument.

I think that's the big issue with hardcore lefties, is they take the worst example of someone on the right, and assume that is the entire right. Most Conservatives and Republicans are just sick of the government meddling in their lives, and want to be left alone so they can go to work and take care of their family.

The irony of the left that claims to care about human rights and equality above all else, is that they simultaneously support fiscal policies that can only lead to bankruptcy. In which case you end up with a dictatorship and nobody has any rights at all.

Xtrema

02-26-2019, 03:16 PM

Yes, I know, but its not doing better. You do understand that you can't trust any of the numbers THEY provide world institutions in order to decipher how they are doing economically?

It's all smoke and mirrors. You grossly misunderstand China's economic well being right now.

Fake it til you make it.

Regardless if their numbers are real or not, when China is going to pull out of your economy, politicians folds.

kertejud2

02-26-2019, 03:39 PM

Pushing coal and driving up domestic prices because of trade wars, how can you think he’s doing anything but an amazing job?

Tik-Tok

02-26-2019, 03:50 PM

And then others look at the social aspects (at a surface level), and assume it's all the current leader's doing, when in reality, most of what is happening now is directly caused by Obama.

Ninja edit, nice.

https://i.imgur.com/0aIz1Ya.jpg

Not directly cause by Obama, a culmination of decades of policy. Governments are like a train, it takes more than one brake to stop them, let alone change direction.

How was my edit relevant enough to mention? Especially considering you didn't reply for 45 minutes, lol.

HiTempguy1

02-26-2019, 04:39 PM

Not directly cause by Obama, a culmination of decades of policy. Governments are like a train, it takes more than one brake to stop them, let alone change direction.

How was my edit relevant enough to mention? Especially considering you didn't reply for 45 minutes, lol.

I had actually opened it to comment, had my post written, and then had to go take care of some actual work.

And it goes to show your mentality. The ones who want to make it sound like things are so difficult and hard to change are the same ones who tear their hair out when Trump does anything they don't want "ermhagerd he is destroying this country".

And no, Obama's policies for 8 years SPECIFICALLY have created the juncture we are at (including the culture wars). Squarely rests on him, America is paying the price for having voted so long for someone who had the destruction of their country and its power at the center of his policy making. Very similar to us dealing with Trudeau right now.

heavyD

02-26-2019, 05:56 PM

I didn't vote because there's middle ground. I think he's a buffoon but I don't think his term has been a disaster in the big picture. I don't particularly like him but he's probably met minimum expectations especially when you consider what a disaster the highly touted Trudeau has been for this country nationally and on the world stage. His debacle of a first term may end up costing him his dream future job at the UN but I don't want to sidetrack into Canadian politics. Job growth has remained pretty stable as while not really much of an increase since Obama there's also been no decline so Americans are working and prospering. I believe the current outrage culture and growing left-wing socialist acceptance plays things up as much worse than they really are so if you get past the less important matters and look at big picture it's been an unremarkable term but not terrible.

Buster

02-26-2019, 06:33 PM

Trudeau has been vastly more destructive to Canada than Trump could ever be.

Trudeau has the ability to, because the PMO has much, much more power than the President.

ZenOps

02-26-2019, 10:48 PM

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trump-tamps-down-expectations-as-he-heads-to-kim-summit-1.4310298

msommers

02-27-2019, 10:25 AM

Michael Cohen is testifying before Congress today.

85031

mazdavirgin

02-27-2019, 11:46 AM

Trudeau has been vastly more destructive to Canada than Trump could ever be.

I'm not fond of Trudeau but this kind of hyperbole is just nutty. Arguing the dumpster fire down south that is Trump isn't so bad because Trudeau is worse? What in the blazes? Trudeau has hardly done anything... As far as I am concerned he's achieved very little and caused little to no damage. Compare that to Trump and his batshit crazy economic war. How the hell is that even comparable?

Buster

02-27-2019, 12:08 PM

I'm not fond of Trudeau but this kind of hyperbole is just nutty. Arguing the dumpster fire down south that is Trump isn't so bad because Trudeau is worse? What in the blazes? Trudeau has hardly done anything... As far as I am concerned he's achieved very little and caused little to no damage. Compare that to Trump and his batshit crazy economic war. How the hell is that even comparable?

It's not hyperbole at all.

- Americans have issues along political lines, and even geographic lines. But the country is no where near as close to a national unity crisis as Canada is.
- the PMO has much, much more power than the President's office. The PMO can create policy as both the legislative branch and the executive branch that the President could only dream about.
- the SNCL affair has demonstrated the legislative+executive corruption at the highest levels to a degree that would make Hillary or Donald blush.
- Americans will never be truly dis-enfranchised on a regional level because they elect senators with significant power. Canada has vast geographic regions whose votes do not count. Whether this is getting worse or just more obvious is up for debate.

Trump hate is so strong that people neglect to realize that we have it much worse, with a much worse leader - who is vastly stupider as well.

So no, not hyperbole.

A790

02-27-2019, 12:19 PM

It's not hyperbole at all.

- Americans have issues along political lines, and even geographic lines. But the country is no where near as close to a national unity crisis as Canada is.
- the PMO has much, much more power than the President's office. The PMO can create policy as both the legislative branch and the executive branch that the President could only dream about.
- the SNCL affair has demonstrated the legislative+executive corruption at the highest levels to a degree that would make Hillary or Donald blush.
- Americans will never be truly dis-enfranchised on a regional level because they elect senators with significant power. Canada has vast geographic regions whose votes do not count. Whether this is getting worse or just more obvious is up for debate.

Trump hate is so strong that people neglect to realize that we have it much worse, with a much worse leader - who is vastly stupider as well.

So no, not hyperbole.

I'm curious to know how you quantify Trudeau's destructiveness. I have many misgivings for the guy but fall well short of calling him destructive or damaging. I think he's damaged the Libs, but the country itself is fine.

Mitsu3000gt

02-27-2019, 12:27 PM

I follow the Trump situation very closely and if nothing else I would recommend these podcasts to anyone interested - they discuss facts, interview relevant law professionals, federal prosecutors, etc:

All The Presidents Lawyers
Mueller, She Wrote
Mueller Time

The first 2 in particular are very well done and very well researched, the third one is more banter.

I find it equally scary as I do hilarious how deep the corruption, incompetence, and Russian meddling runs. This will take years to unpack and I can't wait for the documentary/books. Guys like Mitch McConnel are worse to be honest - famous for filibustering his own bill because his plan backfired to smear Obama. Everyone's focus is on Trump but he's really not the worst of them, he's mostly just a pawn. Guys like Manafort, Stone, McConnel, etc. are worse IMO, and we're seeing that as the indictments continue to drop.

Trump's Tweets and quotes provide equal amounts entertainment and disgust.

I'll leave you with one of Trump's quotes on Miss Teen America:

"“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,”

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

msommers

02-27-2019, 12:36 PM

Everyone knows he is a sleazy old man. And yet plenty of women voted for him.

What's amusing is how the US looks on the global stage as of late.

Buster

02-27-2019, 12:38 PM

I'm curious to know how you quantify Trudeau's destructiveness. I have many misgivings for the guy but fall well short of calling him destructive or damaging. I think he's damaged the Libs, but the country itself is fine.

Some things are difficult to quantify in terms of sentiment: national unity, perhaps, and general faith in our institutions. I don't think anyone should question his impact on the first: creating legislation to protect corrupt Quebec organizations while simultaneously creating legislation to punish the West has created a national unity crisis that is no longer just bubbling below the surface with extremists. Alberta separation is a moderate, mainstream opinion at this point.

Canadians aren't just losing faith domestically, the world is losing faith in Canada - our policy decisions (see Butts, Gerald) are having a dramatic impact on how the world views Canada's prospects.

85032

To be fair to Trudeau - many of his policy decisions are simply Butts' policy decisions. And the correct approach to many of the issues would make a politician un-electable. So much of the blame can be laid at the feet of the electorate. Canada's policies on: aboriginal relations (why do we still make policy based on race and why is it considered "progressive" to do so?), carbon emissions, pipelines, etc are what they are. But the electorate needs to understand the cost of taking relatively extreme policy positions, and electing people who are going to do so.

Kobe

02-27-2019, 02:15 PM

Michael Cohen is testifying before Congress today.

85031

I really wonder if the IRS thing is true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6731439/IRS-agent-charged-leak-Trump-attorney-records.html

I changed the link from an unbiased source - but I've only read the headline anyways.

This could be a game changer.

- If anyone thinks that the US leaving the Paris climate agreement is a good idea, I would love to know why?

Sad but true...

https://i.gyazo.com/042813ffb9ae4a92676c56aefa8c84d2.png

If nobody has also seen the "Dirty Money" series on netflix there is a very cool episode on Pharmaceutical companies in the US and why prices are now so high.

I follow the Trump situation very closely and if nothing else I would recommend these podcasts to anyone interested - they discuss facts, interview relevant law professionals, federal prosecutors, etc:

All The Presidents Lawyers
Mueller, She Wrote
Mueller Time

The first 2 in particular are very well done and very well researched, the third one is more banter.

I find it equally scary as I do hilarious how deep the corruption, incompetence, and Russian meddling runs. This will take years to unpack and I can't wait for the documentary/books. Guys like Mitch McConnel are worse to be honest - famous for filibustering his own bill because his plan backfired to smear Obama. Everyone's focus is on Trump but he's really not the worst of them, he's mostly just a pawn. Guys like Manafort, Stone, McConnel, etc. are worse IMO, and we're seeing that as the indictments continue to drop.

Trump's Tweets and quotes provide equal amounts entertainment and disgust.

I'll leave you with one of Trump's quotes on Miss Teen America:

"“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed,”

“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … ‘Is everyone OK?' You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

Most press is good press though, where is target demographic will be like "Yahhh" - "FAKE FACT" - 25-34 year olds who are single, college educated, and mid to low income earners."

SportEL

02-28-2019, 03:51 AM

Trump has been a really Good President. He's not a politician, and actually keeps his promises. There's been the highest Job numbers due to his Pro-business climate, with high small Busines and consumer confidence levels in a long time, he's eliminating regulations, and lowered taxes for everyone and Corporations, and opening up the energy industry, which is all generating jobs and attracting investment. There has been the lowest unemployment numbers ever for women in 17 years and ever for Blacks and Hispanics. Many are off food stamp rolls than ever before. The US stock market has been noticably better since he got elected. I remember when they said him being elected would tank the economy. He donates his salary every quarter to a different cause.

He is negotiating for better and fair trade deals, got out of the Paris Climate Accord that was just a wealth redistribution climate hoax scam, nominated 2 conservative Supreme Court judges that were voted in, getting the G8 to pay their fair share, fighting for better border security, being against illegal immigration that soaks up the wealth of actual American citizens and brings in drugs, crime, and human trafficking. He has gotten rid of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, eliminating funding for the Pay for Slay Palestinian Authority, and is looking to get the troops out of Syria and Afghanistan. He is getting the respect of North Korea and they haven't done a missile test in a long long time. Instead of syiang he would move the Embassy to Jeresulem like Past Presidents, and not doing it. He actually did it. He has the most women in his cabinet than any Past President, has a Gay Ambassador to Germany, and the most Pro-life President ever.

And why do the Establishment RINOs nd Democrats hate him. Because he can't be controlled, because he isn't a poitician, can't be blackmailed, is Patriotic and loves the country and won't let the country be overrun by illegals, allowing wealth drain and allowing citizens get taxed to hell. They hate him because they no longer have the control of their voter base. Hispanics and Blacks are more and more being supportive of Trump. And most of all they don't like him because he says things like it is.