New Zealand Mosque shootings.

[ZenOps]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/world/asia/new-zealand-shooting-updates-christchurch.html

49 dead.

[ExtraSlow]

Fucks sakes, can we please stop shooting up mosques?

[adam c]

fucks sakes, can we please stop shootings

ftfy

[ExtraSlow]

fair enough.

[msommers]

This is fucking brutal.

Cop in the photo is a babe.

So many emotions right now.

[HiTempguy1]

This is fucking brutal.

Cop in the photo is a babe.

So many emotions right now.

Now you are just trying too hard to make me like you ;) A+ post.

That's pretty fucked though. Crazy people be crazy. It always amazes me to meet someone who hates someone based solely on one identity feature (race, religion, etc). And I don't mean stereotype, or make fun of in an insensitive way, I mean downright hate.

[dirtsniffer]

Not the biggest set of tits in the picture though

[ExtraSlow]

Cop in the photo is a babe.
Not the biggest set of tits in the picture though Thanks for keeping it all in perspective guys. That really helps in difficult times like these.

[bjstare]

This is fucking brutal.

Cop in the photo is a babe.

So many emotions right now.

A babe? I wouldn't be surprised if she had an adams apple.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Religion is a cancer.

[HiTempguy1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nsd9w3dHrI

Interesting perspective. I haven't read anything on or about the "manifesto" as it is being called, but if Tim Pool is accurately describing it, wow. Scary business.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Interesting nobody is talking about the heroes - there was a guy named Abdul Aziz who saved almost the entire second mosque by chasing after the shooter with a credit card machine, zig-zagging to dodge bullets until he was empty, and smashing his windshield with a discarded/empty shotgun. The shooter drove off and was caught shortly after.

[shakalaka]

I watched a 10 minute video that was circulation what's app before the weekend and it was extremely disturbing to see. Essentially it was the main shooter with a Go-pro strapped on his head and going around shooting people. At first I thought it was a movie or something and you see him shoot some people point blank pretty much. It was a Live video that he streamed as he went around and you hear him laughing and making jokes as he is killing people. Ruined my Friday after watching it as it made me so upset. It's fucking ridiculous what is happening to the world out there.

[Mitsu3000gt]

I watched a 10 minute video that was circulation what's app before the weekend and it was extremely disturbing to see. Essentially it was the main shooter with a Go-pro strapped on his head and going around shooting people. At first I thought it was a movie or something and you see him shoot some people point blank pretty much. Ruined my Friday after watching it as it made me so upset. It's fucking ridiculous what is happening to the world out there.

There's two very valid opinions surrounding the footage IMO. On one hand, he wanted you to see it so viewing it is just giving him what he wants. On the other hand, I don't think a lot of people realize how horrible these sorts of things are, and I think it's important for all those individuals sending thoughts & prayers from their safety bubbles to understand the magnitude. It's the same reason as why I think it's important for people to see and learn about other horrible events that have happened throughout history, to help make sure they don't repeat themselves. Turning a blind eye to it isn't good either, but I am not sure what the middle ground is. There are movies that are way more violent, but it's different knowing it's real.

He posted about what he was going to do online in advance, nobody reported it to my knowledge. He was obviously severely mentally ill.

[duaner]

Religion is a cancer.

The vast majority of people see cancer as a bad thing that needs to be eradicated. That would be what the shooter was doing, if "religion is a cancer".

[mazdavirgin]

Fucks sakes, can we please stop shooting up mosques?

Personally I was surprised this happened in New Zealand. I figured something like this occurring is just a matter of time in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_France#21st_century

The list is truly shocking in terms of occurrences and number of victims. They that sow the wind...

[shakalaka]

There's two very valid opinions surrounding the footage IMO. On one hand, he wanted you to see it so viewing it is just giving him what he wants. On the other hand, I don't think a lot of people realize how horrible these sorts of things are, and I think it's important for all those individuals sending thoughts & prayers from their safety bubbles to understand the magnitude. It's the same reason as why I think it's important for people to see and learn about other horrible events that have happened throughout history, to help make sure they don't repeat themselves. Turning a blind eye to it isn't good either, but I am not sure what the middle ground is. There are movies that are way more violent, but it's different knowing it's real.

He posted about what he was going to do online in advance, nobody reported it to my knowledge. He was obviously severely mentally ill.

Yea I totally agree with you on that. On one angle you don't want to give them more publicity that others may decide to follow and on the other hand turning a blind eye and ignoring the situation doesn't make it go away either. I watched it cause it came through as a message in one of my groups and at first I thought it was an amateur movie or something. Movies can be significantly more violent, however, knowing that this was real was particularly disturbing. Especially hearing people scream and this one particular woman who got shot and was yelling, 'help me' repeatedly until the guy went up to her and shot her point blank and then drove his car over him. I didn't forward the video to anyone though as I don't think it would be right to ruin someone's day like mine was ruined after watching that.

Apparently he wrote out some 88 page manifesto that I didn't read but based on that there are no concerns about him being actually mentally ill. People like him give mental illnesses a bad name. He is just a straight fucked up person who was laughing and making jokes while he was committing these acts.

[max_boost]

It's fkn scary. I have a friend over there and she's just shook from all this. Unfknreal and nothing you can really do unless you go big brother and monitor the fk out of every person in the country.

If ppl want to do crazy shit, they will plan and carry it out and you won't have a damn clue.

[JRSC00LUDE]

The vast majority of people see cancer as a bad thing that needs to be eradicated. That would be what the shooter was doing, if "religion is a cancer".

No McJesus, he was using Religion as a catalyst to spread further hate and dissent among racists and, wait for it........wait for it.........wait for it.......other religious fanatics who believe their "God" is the only real/true one. Religion is a bad thing, probably the worst thing in human history. Definitely worse than smallpox AND the gays.

[A790]

The vast majority of people see cancer as a bad thing that needs to be eradicated. That would be what the shooter was doing, if "religion is a cancer".

Religion isn't cancer. It's a symptom. The real cancer is a combination of blind devotion to ideology, and thought processes that prevent people from critically examining their beliefs/circumstances.

Religion just works as a convenient way to label people.

[duaner]

No McJesus, he was using Religion as a catalyst to spread further hate and dissent among racists and, wait for it........wait for it.........wait for it.......other religious fanatics who believe their "God" is the only real/true one.

I haven't read everything on the incident but the few articles I did read said that he was anti-Muslim and anti-immigration. Since the shooter's views and motivation weren't based on his religious views, that makes your statement an implicit support of what he did.


Religion is a bad thing, probably the worst thing in human history.
And you base this on what, exactly?

[duaner]

Religion isn't cancer. It's a symptom. The real cancer is a combination of blind devotion to ideology, and thought processes that prevent people from critically examining their beliefs/circumstances.
There are religious and irreligious with "blind devotion to ideology, and thought processes that prevent people from critically examining their beliefs/circumstances," which is what you may have been saying. This would definitely be applicable to the shooter who, by all accounts, wasn't religious.


Religion just works as a convenient way to label people.
Of course. All labels applied to people are done so for the sake of convenience.

[jabjab]

Lets be honest here, i bet more people than we think were low key happy that muslims died due to the how media portrays muslims as terrorists and the enemy. If this type of incident happened to in America, France, England etc and non muslims died then you'd here alot more about the hero who helped distract the shooter.

[Gman.45]

Lets be honest here, i bet more people than we think were low key happy that muslims died due to the how media portrays muslims as terrorists and the enemy. If this type of incident happened to in America, France, England etc and non muslims died then you'd here alot more about the hero who helped distract the shooter.

Survey says - EEEEEHHHH.

You obviously don't even remember, if you even knew in the first place, which invalidates your own point- Sutherland Church shooting in Texas, it was only a couple years ago. Shooter used an AR15 and shot 47 people, and was engaged in a gun fight by a local civilian, Stephen Willeford, who took his own AR15 out and went toe to toe with the gunman, put 2 or 3 rounds into him, pursued him, and the nut died due to those wounds. So, despite what you're trying to say, it HAS happened in America, more than once, and there were "heroes" who tried to do something about stopping it too. You probably don't even remember that someone used a rifle to stop a nut with a rifle, probably never saw him interviewed. You know why - because non of the major news networks like CNN, MSNBC, NYP, etc, wanted to even talk to the "hero" who intervened and stopped the situation from becoming even worse. So no, you would NOT necessarily hear a lot more about it, because you didn't when it happened a couple years ago (and prior to tat) - not even when it happens to non Muslim people in America. So please, don't play the religion card here, as the media has ignored people of all stripes and religions when it comes to their own agendas...

You are correct about one thing, the Muslims who fought back against the nut in NZ ARE heroes, and should be treated as such IMO, but don't try and say they aren't getting the same recognition as an American would get in similar circumstance, because that already happened, but the coverage the hero got in that incident from the major networks/etc was very limited.

[phreezee]

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