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A790
05-09-2019, 02:40 PM
https://www.supercars.net/blog/nippy-nineties-the-greatest-supercars-of-the-1990s/

My boss spent hours researching and putting this list together. What do you think? Agree/disagree?

Sugarphreak
05-09-2019, 03:03 PM
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A790
05-09-2019, 03:07 PM
As a modern article it is good, but I think it is ignoring the true spirit of that era.
Tell me more. This is good.

firebane
05-09-2019, 03:10 PM
I can definitely side with Sugar on this... I don't consider a NSX a super car by ANY means. It was a unique and cool car... but its really a meh car.

you&me
05-09-2019, 03:15 PM
I didn't even know about McLaren or Bugatti in the 90's at all, and well they are better known these days I wouldn't call it an iconic car of the 90's.

When I think of cars I idolized in the 90's the NSX, Esprit V8, Countach, and the Testarossa are the ones that come to mind

As a modern article it is good, but I think it is ignoring the true spirit of that era.

You could be forgiven for not knowing about the EB110... But the McLaren F1? Really? And not iconic? Turn in your car-guy ID card and see yourself out...


Overall, I thought the list was OK, though there seem to be some questionable choices, both inclusions and omissions.

The Japanese supercars are very obscure and, to me, scream "Gran Turismo" fan, rather than legitimate selection.

Three versions of the 993 seems a little much.

No Ferrari F355? Another icon that is perhaps the most widely regarded mid-engine V8 Ferrari ever...

I'm on the fence about the NSX... It was a game-changer in the sports car arena, but it's a pretty big stretch to call it a supercar.

C4S
05-09-2019, 03:24 PM
Shoot .. that is no good ..

Will make the gen 1 NSX price keeps going up .... :banghead::banghead:

bjstare
05-09-2019, 03:24 PM
A lot of that list is fantastic. I would echo having 3 porsches on there is a bit much.

I don't think including the abstract le mans cars or one-offs in that list fit the theme (e.g. the Dauer 962 and Toyota GT-one... the Nissan R390 is borderline), but overall it's a pretty good representation. XJ220 and Mac F1 are great examples of era defining cars, IMO.

A790
05-09-2019, 03:28 PM
I'm on the fence about the NSX... It was a game-changer in the sports car arena, but it's a pretty big stretch to call it a supercar.

I disagree/agree.

Disagree in that in the 90s, it kept pace with the Ferrari's of the world.

Agree in that, when viewed today, it's got about as much power as a modern Camry.

max_boost
05-09-2019, 03:29 PM
When I think 90s I simply think Japanese imports so I’m glad to see NSX on that list.

JustinL
05-09-2019, 03:30 PM
I think the cars should be stock too for their pictures. The 993TT has some weird fender vents that don't belong.

BavarianBeast
05-09-2019, 03:36 PM
I disagree/agree.

Disagree in that in the 90s, it kept pace with the Ferrari's of the world.

Agree in that, when viewed today, it's got about as much power as a modern Camry.

Which 90s Ferrari’s does the NSX keep up with? I’ve seen an 89 944 turbo s with some minor modifications destroy a 91 nsx. Just have a hard time believing they were keeping up with any mid-top tier Ferrari’s of the 90s if it could barely keep up with the entry-mid level Porsche.

you&me
05-09-2019, 03:47 PM
I think the cars should be stock too for their pictures. The 993TT has some weird fender vents that don't belong.

Both the 993 Turbo S and RUF CTR-2 pictured appear to be stock (if that's how you want to refer to a RUF).

Edit - FWIW, the 993 GT2 pictured appears to be stock as well.

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Which 90s Ferrari’s does the NSX keep up with? I’ve seen an 89 944 turbo s with some minor modifications destroy a 91 nsx. Just have a hard time believing they were keeping up with any mid-top tier Ferrari’s of the 90s if it could barely keep up with the entry-mid level Porsche.

An early NSX could (basically) keep up with its contemporary, the 348.

The 348 wasn't a great car, but the NSX was credited with Ferrari upping their game in developing the beloved F355...

A790
05-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Which 90s Ferrari’s does the NSX keep up with? I’ve seen an 89 944 turbo s with some minor modifications destroy a 91 nsx. Just have a hard time believing they were keeping up with any mid-top tier Ferrari’s of the 90s if it could barely keep up with the entry-mid level Porsche.

Ferrari 348 (https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/p43ru12l5ivd), kept up with the 355 in many cases (https://carbuzz.com/news/supercars-on-a-50-000-budget-the-ferrari-that-was-almost-embarrassed-by-honda)

sabad66
05-09-2019, 03:56 PM
i think the list is pretty good, all of those cars scream 1990s supercars to me. I would probably add the Ford GT90 to the list and pretty much any car featured in Need for Speed 2 that isn't already in there.

rage2
05-09-2019, 04:03 PM
Deja Vu? I swear you posted this before haha.

nismodrifter
05-09-2019, 04:06 PM
I think the cars should be stock too for their pictures. The 993TT has some weird fender vents that don't belong.

They put the 993 TT Turbo S on the list, I think that vent is stock on it whereas regular 993TT doesn't have it.

Alot of weird cars on that list. 512m? TR is more iconic

JustinL
05-09-2019, 04:10 PM
Both the 993 Turbo S and RUF CTR-2 pictured appear to be stock (if that's how you want to refer to a RUF).


Interesting, I always thought those fender intakes were aftermarket.

max_boost
05-09-2019, 04:10 PM
Deja Vu? I swear you posted this before haha.

Yes he did lol but can't tell you when and too lazy to search.

sabad66
05-09-2019, 04:19 PM
Deja Vu? I swear you posted this before haha.

i think the other list was top porsches, not supercars. could be wrong though.

Skrilla
05-09-2019, 04:27 PM
Deja Vu? I swear you posted this before haha.

Ok, glad I'm not the only one haha.

I like the list, the common Icons being the Diablo, F50, dodge viper etc. Either way, some nice throwbacks in there! I remember having a EB110 poster as a kid. I totally forgot about that car haha

JRSC00LUDE
05-09-2019, 04:31 PM
I too thought this was an old bumped thread.

A790
05-09-2019, 04:32 PM
Deja Vu? I swear you posted this before haha.
No. You're thinking of this best 911 post. (https://www.supercars.net/blog/the-definitive-list-of-the-greatest-porsche-911s-ever-made/)

Tik-Tok
05-09-2019, 04:42 PM
Tell him to fix his site.

85944

Darkane
05-09-2019, 04:47 PM
SHM for those of you who don’t think the NSX is a supercar.

The ‘92 NSX R? That’s a pinnacle car there.

EDIT: Fanboy triggered.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.motor1.com/news/65181/acura-nsx-r-and-ferrari-f355-travel-to-1995-for-vintage-drag-race/amp/

Lolol.

A790
05-09-2019, 04:49 PM
Tell him to fix his site.

85944

Is this on mobile?

Team_Mclaren
05-09-2019, 04:52 PM
SHM for those of you who don’t think the NSX is a supercar.

The ‘92 NSX R? That’s a pinnacle car there.

It's not a super car......

Tik-Tok
05-09-2019, 04:53 PM
Is this on mobile?

Yep

Team_Mclaren
05-09-2019, 04:53 PM
is supercar.net one of those sit that any joe smith and go and write on it? I swear no one on there has any credibility

Darkane
05-09-2019, 04:54 PM
It's not a super car......

I’ll bite. Why? Price? Power?

Team_Mclaren
05-09-2019, 05:00 PM
I’ll bite. Why? Price? Power?

imo yes to both. I think it's a sportscar for sure, but supercar to the likes of others on this list? no way.

I wouldnt mind if the value goes up comparable to all the others on the list tho lol

BerserkerCatSplat
05-09-2019, 05:01 PM
Overall, I thought the list was OK, though there seem to be some questionable choices, both inclusions and omissions.


Overall, I thought the list was OK, though there seem to be some questionable choices, both inclusions and omissions.

The Japanese supercars are very obscure and, to me, scream "Gran Turismo" fan, rather than legitimate selection.

Three versions of the 993 seems a little much.

No Ferrari F355? Another icon that is perhaps the most widely regarded mid-engine V8 Ferrari ever...

I'm on the fence about the NSX... It was a game-changer in the sports car arena, but it's a pretty big stretch to call it a supercar.

Agreed on all points. List seemed like it was put together by a Porsche fan who also plays Gran Turismo.

LeMans homologation specials were practically unknown to the public at large. The Ferrari F40 was still in production in the early 90s and was unquestionably more iconic than any of those at the time. 355 and 550 are also notable omissions especially considering the 993's over-representation.

I'd also argue the Zonda is a 2000s supercar, not a 1990s. Same goes for the 996.

NSX, like the Corvette, is a sports car rather than supercar.

A790
05-09-2019, 05:17 PM
is supercar.net one of those sit that any joe smith and go and write on it? I swear no one on there has any credibility

No. We vet our writers.

Nick D, for example, owns a few Porsches (shocked? lol) and is a car fanatic.

Terrence Wah is actually a beyond member and a racer.

Everyone that writes for the site is an enthusiast or racer.

Now, all that said, your feedback is valuable. What would help demonstrate credibility?

EDIT: I've also written for SC, so thanks for that :( lol

heavyD
05-10-2019, 08:41 AM
Doug DeMuro recently did a very descriptive review of Jay Leno's F1 and I recommend people watch that if you aren't overly familiar with it's quirks. Truly a one of a kind car.

Misterman
05-13-2019, 07:14 AM
I’ll bite. Why? Price? Power?

Because it's a Honda

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https://www.supercars.net/blog/nippy-nineties-the-greatest-supercars-of-the-1990s/

My boss spent hours researching and putting this list together. What do you think? Agree/disagree?

The list is fine, it's the title that is in question. Maybe "Most Iconic 90's Cars" would be more fitting? Then nobody can bitch about the NSX being on the list.

Xtrema
05-16-2019, 01:58 PM
Doug DeMuro recently did a very descriptive review of Jay Leno's F1 and I recommend people watch that if you aren't overly familiar with it's quirks. Truly a one of a kind car.

So glad he that that vid.

SSO
11-17-2020, 11:52 AM
Having driven quite a few on the list, your boss got number 1 right, number 2 should be the Ferrari F50, number 3 is the Porsche 911 GT1, number 4 the EB110, and number 5, the Jaguar XJR-15.

T-Dubbs
11-17-2020, 12:20 PM
Agree in that, when viewed today, it's got about as much power as a modern Camry.
Less actually... The new v6 Camry has over 300hp