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jampack
08-24-2019, 11:20 AM
With lots of announcements of future series coming to Disney+ from the D23 expo, letís make a thread about it! Anyone getting in to the bandwagon?

ExtraSlow
08-24-2019, 11:27 AM
I hate Disney the corporation, but I'm probably getting it.

ThePenIsMightier
08-24-2019, 01:14 PM
I hate Disney the corporation, but I'm probably getting it.

I'm fine with them, but the Golden Age of streaming services is rapidly coming to an end. Instead of cutting cable and getting by on Netflix, we're now going to "need" Netflix, Prime, Disney+ and Crave which is going to cost more than the cable we all felt was too much when we started down this path.
Le fail!

Buster
08-24-2019, 05:10 PM
Cable was just a distribution network. With the streaming services you are paying for the actual content, rather than a fee to a middle-man like Shaw.

Cable was a poor value because the content was all garbage network TV shows, garbage specialty cable channels, and sports.

Netflix and Disney rae turning your dollars into actual content. And its aweome.

speedog
08-24-2019, 05:12 PM
I'm fine with them, but the Golden Age of streaming services is rapidly coming to an end. Instead of cutting cable and getting by on Netflix, we're now going to "need" Netflix, Prime, Disney+ and Crave which is going to cost more than the cable we all felt was too much when we started down this path.
Le fail!

Well the masses wanted to stick it to the big bad cable companies plus network providers and now this looks like what they'll get - options albeit at a greater price. Now granted, they all can be an on demand type of service but they also control what content they wish to make available. Currently we have a TELUS package that includes Crave and we also have Netflix and Prime on the side - I suppose the only thing that makes it all somewhat digestible is me getting 40% off of my TELUS services.

Now what does this mean for a National Geographic specialty channels as the are partly owned by Disney - will they remain as a part of my TELUS package or will they be migrated over to Disney+? Crap, I just discovered ESPN is owned mostly by Disney as well.

Asian_defender
08-24-2019, 09:43 PM
There's a reason why Disney is so successful, I'm sure their streaming service is going to be great
Surprised that it hasn't been confirmed on firetv yet. I'm sure that'll change come launch day

rx7boi
08-24-2019, 10:06 PM
+1 what Buster said.

Basic cable is at least 20 bucks a month but for $16.99 I have access to everything on Netflix with no commercials either.

You don't "need" to have everything under the sun and you can also cancel subscriptions with a click of a button.

Our streaming era is great. Fuck cable television lol.

spikerS
08-25-2019, 09:59 AM
+1 what Buster said.

Basic cable is at least 20 bucks a month but for $16.99 I have access to everything on Netflix with no commercials either.

You don't "need" to have everything under the sun and you can also cancel subscriptions with a click of a button.

Our streaming era is great. Fuck cable television lol.

Your argument makes no sense. What you just said is now instead of paying 1 company to distribute everything and picking what you want from them, you pick a bunch of smaller companies, and pay a lesser amount to each of them, but when combined, makes it more expensive than paying the initial first company... does not compute...

feels like we are taking a step back. We used to / still can get all of our wanted programmings from one place, but now we want to go and get them from multiple places...

Netflix was awesome. One stop shop, no commercials, on demand programming. Now we have to subscribe to multiple streaming services, and pay more bills, which will probably add up to more than what I pay for my regular cable bill.

ThePenIsMightier
08-25-2019, 10:58 AM
Your argument makes no sense. What you just said is now instead of paying 1 company to distribute everything and picking what you want from them, you pick a bunch of smaller companies, and pay a lesser amount to each of them, but when combined, makes it more expensive than paying the initial first company... does not compute...

feels like we are taking a step back. We used to / still can get all of our wanted programmings from one place, but now we want to go and get them from multiple places...

Netflix was awesome. One stop shop, no commercials, on demand programming. Now we have to subscribe to multiple streaming services, and pay more bills, which will probably add up to more than what I pay for my regular cable bill.

This is my thinking, as well. We spend ____ hours staring at a rectangle each week, regardless. Now the content has been spread out to the point that the cost is higher than it was with the guys we did nothing but bitch about being too expensive. Our $/hr entertainment rate has gone up and we still spend the same hours.

killramos
08-25-2019, 11:34 AM
I donít see how multiple streaming services is any worse than cable.

Want basic channels? 50 bucks a month, liken this to just having Netflix.

Want more? Scales up from there just like adding on additional streaming services.

Want HBO channels? Thatís another add on.

NFL Sunday ticket? More cost.

Specialty movies? Please add more.

I donít see how have a few different streaming services is any different.

I could probably subscribe to every streaming service under the sun, including the dedicated sports ones, and pay about the same as full cable but for a 50x better experience. Cable needs to either innovate and offer a better experience for what they charge (looking at you Shaw on no plans for 4K content and itís almost 2020) or die.

As it stands Iíll be cancelling my cable next June when my Bluesky contract expires, what a waste of money.

The difference is now the control is far more in the hands of the consumer for who they want to give their money to

ThePenIsMightier
08-25-2019, 01:19 PM
I donít see how multiple streaming services is any worse than cable.

Want basic channels? 50 bucks a month, liken this to just having Netflix.

Want more? Scales up from there just like adding on additional streaming services.

Want HBO channels? Thatís another add on.

NFL Sunday ticket? More cost.

Specialty movies? Please add more.

I donít see how have a few different streaming services is any different.

I could probably subscribe to every streaming service under the sun, including the dedicated sports ones, and pay about the same as full cable but for a 50x better experience. Cable needs to either innovate and offer a better experience for what they charge (looking at you Shaw on no plans for 4K content and itís almost 2020) or die.

As it stands Iíll be cancelling my cable next June when my Bluesky contract expires, what a waste of money.

The difference is now the control is far more in the hands of the consumer for who they want to give their money to

You're not wrong, but consider it this way. About 20+ years ago, to keep up with the shows everyone was watching, you needed to see Seinfeld, Friends, Simpsons, Survivor and probably a couple others. Not an exhaustive list, but all on cable.
Now you need to watch Better Call Saul, Top Gear, Gay of Thrones, Ozark and whatever kids stuff if you have kids and that locks you into cable, plus 3 other services.
Yes, you always had the option of adding infinite shit in cable but now I think it's worse than before just to keep up with the popular shows.

Tik-Tok
08-25-2019, 03:55 PM
feels like we are taking a step back. We used to / still can get all of our wanted programmings from one place, but now we want to go and get them from multiple places...


Because as said we can pick and choose what we want, and cancel it at the drop of a hat. Something cable companies refused to let us do for decades. Also I have no problem paying more for no god damn commercials.

Xtrema
08-26-2019, 08:30 AM
The only reservation I have about Disney+ is that it is sticking with old TV model of no binge. You have to wait for weekly release of episodes.

And it's probably matter of time, ads comes back into play, especially on hulu.

So while I agree with Buster to a degree, we are not better off and I think eventually we will end up where we started, back to pirating.

rx7boi
08-26-2019, 08:34 AM
Your argument makes no sense. What you just said is now instead of paying 1 company to distribute everything and picking what you want from them, you pick a bunch of smaller companies, and pay a lesser amount to each of them, but when combined, makes it more expensive than paying the initial first company... does not compute...

feels like we are taking a step back. We used to / still can get all of our wanted programmings from one place, but now we want to go and get them from multiple places...

Netflix was awesome. One stop shop, no commercials, on demand programming. Now we have to subscribe to multiple streaming services, and pay more bills, which will probably add up to more than what I pay for my regular cable bill.

I never said anything about paying multiple companies. In fact, I literally said that you don't need to have subscriptions to everything.

Personally, I only have Netflix and Prime which was included with my annual Amazon fee. It is usually enough for what I need.

People who subscribe to Netflix, Hulu, Crave, and HBO simultaneously aren't using their money wisely over the long term unless you're just sitting there binging every single day just to make it worth your while, or if you don't mind paying to have an excess of title choice. I am not convinced that you wouldn't be spending a pretty penny on a mack daddy premium, everything-under-the-sun television package.

I have options, though. For any titles that aren't on Netflix or Prime, I just download them off YTS.

rage2
08-26-2019, 09:03 AM
The only reservation I have about Disney+ is that it is sticking with old TV model of no binge. You have to wait for weekly release of episodes.

And it's probably matter of time, ads comes back into play, especially on hulu.
Hulu has the premium ad free option. Disney+ has a bundle offer for Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+ but you can not get it ad free in a bundle. So yea, they're forcing ads on Hulu back in play if you want the discounted bundle pricing.

Not that it matters in Canada, it's US only for Hulu and ESPN+. I use it behind a VPN. Going to miss commercial free.

rage2
08-26-2019, 09:05 AM
I never said anything about paying multiple companies. In fact, I literally said that you don't need to have subscriptions to everything.

Personally, I only have Netflix and Prime which was included with my annual Amazon fee. It is usually enough for what I need.

People who subscribe to Netflix, Hulu, Crave, and HBO simultaneously aren't using their money wisely over the long term unless you're just sitting there binging every single day just to make it worth your while, or if you don't mind paying to have an excess of title choice. I am not convinced that you wouldn't be spending a pretty penny on a mack daddy premium, everything-under-the-sun television package.

I have options, though. For any titles that aren't on Netflix or Prime, I just download them off YTS.
That's a long way of saying "I'll just buy the base package and steal the rest". :rofl:

rx7boi
08-26-2019, 09:28 AM
:rofl: :rofl:

Touche

spikerS
08-26-2019, 10:36 AM
That's a long way of saying "I'll just buy the base package and steal the rest". :rofl:

That's kind of the point I failed to iterate. In addition to requiring the subscription to multiple streaming sources and paying an equivalent amount to what you would pay for a cable package, it is just going to push people back to pirating. That's what I am doing again. I had stopped because pretty much everything I wanted to watch was on Netflix. Now, a lot of that programming is being clawed back over the past few years and moving to various streaming platforms, and I am using Netflix a lot less. and now I am finding that I am starting to resort to Pirate Bay again after not using it once over the last 3ish years.

rx7boi
08-26-2019, 10:43 AM
Well, to be fair, his point is more in jest. I pirate it if it's a new title that just came out, or if it's not available on the Netflix/Prime platform.

If you're paying for cable TV, that new title is not going to be available right away either so it's a moot point.

You make it sound like multiple subscription services are a necessity. They aren't.

rage2
08-26-2019, 11:26 AM
The music industry has moved in the right direction with an "all you can eat" subscription model under a single roof. Spotify, Apple Music works, and even hold outs are joining so you literally get all music for one price. I'm just not sure if or when Hollywood and TV networks are ready for such a move. The stakes are much higher as production budgets are much higher in TV vs Music.

I don't expect things to change much, as each provider is doing all they can to maximize revenues right now, and slowly shifting from licensing to others to stream to building streaming services themselves.

rx7boi
08-26-2019, 11:48 AM
I'd be interested in analytics on the total amount of titles offered relative to how many I've newly watched, already seen, and rewatched multiple times.

The amount of unwatched titles probably goes up the more subscriptions you have.

If Disney+ has something I'm really interested in, I'd add that to my expense but I think it's worth evaluating which services you no longer use and getting rid of those.

speedog
08-26-2019, 12:11 PM
For my wife and I, it's the KISS principle when it comes to video. We have a TELUS package with some add-ons and we can get to Netflix easily through that same box and that provides all we desire. Seeing a movie as soon as possible after it's been released doesn't matter to us but then she is in her early 50's and I'm in my late 50's so probably a different demographic then most beyond members. I don't want to be bothered with VPN this and VPN that or having another device hooked up to my television that I have to teach myself to use as well as my wife and trust me, she'd be the real challenge in all of this because she's still trying to figure out our 6 button HDMI switcher remote. One of the kids that's still at home has Prime but we've got to use the XBOX for that and she or I can be bothered with that - we to just switch on the television and watch it, no mucking around.

Xtrema
08-26-2019, 12:17 PM
For my wife and I, it's the KISS principle when it comes to video. We have a TELUS package with some add-ons and we can get to Netflix easily through that same box and that provides all we desire. Seeing a movie as soon as possible after it's been released doesn't matter to us but then she is in her early 50's and I'm in my late 50's so probably a different demographic then most beyond members. I don't want to be bothered with VPN this and VPN that or having another device hooked up to my television that I have to teach myself to use as well as my wife and trust me, she'd be the real challenge in all of this because she's still trying to figure out our 6 button HDMI switcher remote. One of the kids that's still at home has Prime but we've got to use the XBOX for that and she or I can be bothered with that - we to just switch on the television and watch it, no mucking around.

Eventually the conversation will turn to why such and such movie hasn't come to Netflix yet and then you find out you need another subscription to get it.

That said, I assume VOD may still cover some people's needs as long as you catch it in time.

End of the, I don't think we have enough time of the day to watch all the contents being created right now.

speedog
08-26-2019, 12:27 PM
Eventually the conversation will turn to why such and such movie hasn't come to Netflix yet and then you find out you need another subscription to get it.

That said, I assume VOD may still cover some people's needs as long as you catch it in time.

End of the, I don't think we have enough time of the day to watch all the contents being created right now.

Missing a movie isn't the end of the world for us, we'll get up the next morning and the sun will still rise.

killramos
08-26-2019, 12:29 PM
Movie purchases and rentals are still a thing for one offs...

Just saying.

rx7boi
08-26-2019, 01:44 PM
For my wife and I, it's the KISS principle when it comes to video. We have a TELUS package with some add-ons and we can get to Netflix easily through that same box and that provides all we desire. Seeing a movie as soon as possible after it's been released doesn't matter to us but then she is in her early 50's and I'm in my late 50's so probably a different demographic then most beyond members. I don't want to be bothered with VPN this and VPN that or having another device hooked up to my television that I have to teach myself to use as well as my wife and trust me, she'd be the real challenge in all of this because she's still trying to figure out our 6 button HDMI switcher remote. One of the kids that's still at home has Prime but we've got to use the XBOX for that and she or I can be bothered with that - we to just switch on the television and watch it, no mucking around.

I can relate to that. I don't mess around with VPN, media servers, and other stuff. I can access pretty much everything through my Vizio TV (Youtube, Prime, Netflix).

At the end of the day, it's hard to see the need for 4+ subscriptions like some are alluding to. Unless you enjoy an excess of choice, I feel like having a couple subscriptions ought to provide most people with plenty of titles.

Netflix 4k subscription is $16.99 a month and Prime Video comes out to $6.50 a month, and that only came because I got Prime for Amazon purchases. That seems like a pretty good deal to me.

There's always with the option to buy/rent any standalone digital titles but yes, you'd probably have to fiddle around with iTunes for that.

Most of the summer blockbusters I pirate end up being on Netflix so I suppose I'm paying for it eventually? Haha.

suntan
08-26-2019, 02:53 PM
You don't need all of them at once.

I seriously doubt I'm going to bother with Disney+ until they have a bunch of content ready to binge, and then I'll subscribe for a couple of months.

It takes nothing to unsub. Unlike cable which is a major, major chore.

And no commercials, you watch on-demand and basically anything with a screen usually has an app.

rage2
08-26-2019, 03:08 PM
There's always with the option to buy/rent any standalone digital titles but yes, you'd probably have to fiddle around with iTunes for that.
It's 2019. Everybody has buy/rent options. Google Play Movies if you're on Android, iTunes for Apple, Amazon Video for Amazon. Zero fiddling around, tight integration with whatever platform you're on.

rx7boi
08-26-2019, 03:27 PM
It's 2019. Everybody has buy/rent options. Google Play Movies if you're on Android, iTunes for Apple, Amazon Video for Amazon. Zero fiddling around, tight integration with whatever platform you're on.

Fo sho. iTunes and Apple TV just came to mind first since I've read your numerous posts about Apple TV and Dolby Vision titles.

I may check out Google Play Movies in the future. They offer 4K/HDR for some blockbuster hits that I'm interested in. One day I really need to sit down and experience a Dolby Vision movie on a dedicated setup so I can finally tell what sort of premium experience you get with DV.

HiSpec
08-26-2019, 08:12 PM
What's the chance I can use a Disney+ account from a US account owner? This way I can take advantage of Hulu and ESPN. But I guess it'll be IP tracked...

rage2
08-26-2019, 09:03 PM
It won’t be. ;)

In other news Disney+ will have 4K HDR at launch at the same price. None of this Netflix more money bullshit. Netflix’s 4K material is actually quite terrible because of its extremely high compression rates, here’s hoping Disney+ streams at closer to iTunes and Vudu bitrates.

HiSpec
08-27-2019, 11:59 AM
It won’t be. ;)



:devil:

jampack
11-12-2019, 07:57 AM
This comes out today. Just signed up and you get the first week free! Looks good so far!

killramos
11-12-2019, 08:28 AM
I can’t get the signup page to load lol

Buster
11-12-2019, 08:56 AM
I watched the New Hope on 4k HDR on my projector @ 160 inches. amazing.

dirtsniffer
11-12-2019, 09:25 AM
Sick can't wait.

Errr i mean the kid is really going to love this

89coupe
11-12-2019, 09:29 AM
Downloaded the App, purchased the year subscription for $89.99, login, and...

88202

jampack
11-12-2019, 09:37 AM
Yap. Got the year subscription also. It goes up and down but I only had a problem once when signing up. It has been working for me since.

Star Wars Episodes up to Episode VII in it too.

89coupe
11-12-2019, 09:37 AM
Well that was quick to fix

88203

89coupe
11-12-2019, 09:48 AM
Ohhhh
88204

nzwasp
11-12-2019, 10:52 AM
Theres some issues for some people -
Disney's statement on twitter was "The demand for #DisneyPlus has exceeded our highest expectations. We are so pleased you’re excited to watch all your favorites and are working quickly to resolve any current issues. We appreciate your patience."

Andy643
11-12-2019, 12:18 PM
Hoping for a Black Friday deal before we sign up.

Kavy
11-12-2019, 04:00 PM
The amount of Dolby vision titles is blowing my mind.

jwslam
11-12-2019, 04:21 PM
https://www.cnet.com/news/disney-plus-puts-the-simpsons-in-widescreen-and-fans-are-not-happy/

rage2
11-12-2019, 04:37 PM
The amount of Dolby vision titles is blowing my mind.
There's more DV titles on streaming than on physical media. You guys have been missing out. MCU movies are all HDR10 physical media and DV through Vudu and now Disney+.

I think I own something like 400 DV titles now from iTunes purchases over the years. Tons were HD purchases that got free upgrades. Now AppleTV+ and Disney+ with their DV streams.

Netflix DV sucks, as does Amazon Prime's, so I don't count those.

suntan
11-12-2019, 04:52 PM
Can someone check if The Simpsons TV episodes are available?

killramos
11-12-2019, 04:52 PM
Supposedly yes, people are up in arms because they are all cut off to widescreen rather than original format.

See post 2 up

schocker
11-12-2019, 04:54 PM
There's more DV titles on streaming than on physical media. You guys have been missing out. MCU movies are all HDR10 physical media and DV through Vudu and now Disney+.

I think I own something like 400 DV titles now from iTunes purchases over the years. Tons were HD purchases that got free upgrades. Now AppleTV+ and Disney+ with their DV streams.

Netflix DV sucks, as does Amazon Prime's, so I don't count those.

That is why I wish I had an apple tv over a shield tv. Google play is always way more money for UHD and then you just get "HDR Available" so no DV. I am over 100 titles now though from my digital copy and movies anywhere scheme.

kenny
11-12-2019, 04:55 PM
Supposedly yes, people are up in arms because they are all cut off to widescreen rather than original format.

See post 2 up

Also because S03E01 is not on D+

Tik-Tok
11-12-2019, 04:55 PM
Can someone check if The Simpsons TV episodes are available?

They are. As mentioned though, they forced widescreen on the non-HD seasons

89coupe
11-12-2019, 05:35 PM
Watched Mandalorian and noticed it was only in 5.1 Dolby, disappointing.

suntan
11-12-2019, 05:42 PM
Sweet Lord The Simpsons are there!

- - - Updated - - -


Supposedly yes, people are up in arms because they are all cut off to widescreen rather than original format.

See post 2 up

Yeah but that's USA people whining.

benyl
11-12-2019, 06:25 PM
Who wants to share their password with me? :rofl:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/12/20960332/disney-plus-password-sharing-streaming-accounts

suntan
11-12-2019, 07:17 PM
Send nudes, will share.